ABC2 breaking the law already?

[Michael Trebilcock]

As shown on the ABC2 website FAQ section:

Q: There's no drama, national sport, national news or current affairs and
no comedy or entertainment on ABC2. Why is that?
A: Government legislation restricts the kinds of programs that can be shown
on any additional digital channels broadcast by the ABC or SBS.
Specifically, the legislation prevents ABC2 from broadcasting drama,
national sport, national news or current affairs, comedy and entertainment.
However, there'll be plenty of other programming to keep you busy - check
the online program guide .



It can't broadcast drama? "The Tribe" seems like drama to me.. National
sport? I'm sure Western Australian Football is National Sport
(http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/abc2/200504/programs/SP0447W002D2042005T233000.htm),
National News? There's plenty of that. Current Affairs? Plenty of that too..
Comedy? Plenty of kids programs have comedy.. Entertainment? TV =
Entertainment..

Well..

They're just breaking everything aren't they..

Why not broadcast stuff we want instead? You've already broken the rules and
can't get into more trouble! :-)





Michael

[Kevin Hendrikssen]

"Michael Trebilcock" <trebs@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> As shown on the ABC2 website FAQ section:
>
> Q: There's no drama, national sport, national news or current affairs and
> no comedy or entertainment on ABC2. Why is that?
> A: Government legislation restricts the kinds of programs that can be
> shown on any additional digital channels broadcast by the ABC or SBS.
> Specifically, the legislation prevents ABC2 from broadcasting drama,
> national sport, national news or current affairs, comedy and
> entertainment. However, there'll be plenty of other programming to keep
> you busy - check the online program guide .
>
>
>
> It can't broadcast drama? "The Tribe" seems like drama to me..

They're allowed to show children's programmes so they can probably get away
with that.

> National sport? I'm sure Western Australian Football is National Sport
> (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/abc2/200504/programs/SP0447W002D2042005T233000.htm),

Is that part of a national comp or just a regional one (sorry I don't follow
AFL).

> National News? There's plenty of that.

Is there? I've only seen regional news programmes (Stateline), plus short
news updates.

> Current Affairs? Plenty of that too..

As per regional news?

> Comedy? Plenty of kids programs have comedy..

Children's shows.

> Entertainment? TV = Entertainment..
>
> Well..
>
> They're just breaking everything aren't they..
>
> Why not broadcast stuff we want instead? You've already broken the rules
> and can't get into more trouble! :-)

The whole thing is farcical, so yes. Good on them for pushing the boundaries
a little... Why not make a submission to the digital TV takeup inquiry
suggesting the content restrictions be lifted?

[Michael Trebilcock]

"Kevin Hendrikssen" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael Trebilcock" <trebs@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:4250de3c$0$19128$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> As shown on the ABC2 website FAQ section:
>>
>> Q: There's no drama, national sport, national news or current affairs and
>> no comedy or entertainment on ABC2. Why is that?
>> A: Government legislation restricts the kinds of programs that can be
>> shown on any additional digital channels broadcast by the ABC or SBS.
>> Specifically, the legislation prevents ABC2 from broadcasting drama,
>> national sport, national news or current affairs, comedy and
>> entertainment. However, there'll be plenty of other programming to keep
>> you busy - check the online program guide .
>>
>>
>>
>> It can't broadcast drama? "The Tribe" seems like drama to me..
>
> They're allowed to show children's programmes so they can probably get
> away with that.
>
>> National sport? I'm sure Western Australian Football is National Sport
>> (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/abc2/200504/programs/SP0447W002D2042005T233000.htm),
>
> Is that part of a national comp or just a regional one (sorry I don't
> follow AFL).

Me neither.. OK I suppose it's regional...

>> National News? There's plenty of that.
>
> Is there? I've only seen regional news programmes (Stateline), plus short
> news updates.

Well.. Australia Wide, while they say it's regional news.. from every
region.. well, it's national too, right?

>> Current Affairs? Plenty of that too..

> As per regional news?

Perhaps I consider news to be current affairs.

>> Comedy? Plenty of kids programs have comedy..
>
> Children's shows.

Yeah.. Banana's in Pyjamas looks like comedy ;)

>> Entertainment? TV = Entertainment..

You didn't comment here.. but, why not look up in the dictionary what
"entertainment" means.

>> Well..
>>
>> They're just breaking everything aren't they..
>>
>> Why not broadcast stuff we want instead? You've already broken the rules
>> and can't get into more trouble! :-)
>
> The whole thing is farcical, so yes. Good on them for pushing the
> boundaries a little... Why not make a submission to the digital TV takeup
> inquiry suggesting the content restrictions be lifted?

Got a url, postal address, phone number, email, etc?? :)


Thanks,
Michael

[Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:58:26 +1000, Kevin Hendrikssen wrote:

>> National sport? I'm sure Western Australian Football is National Sport
>> (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/abc2/200504/programs/SP0447W002D2042005T233000.htm),
>
> Is that part of a national comp or just a regional one (sorry I don't follow
> AFL).

Regional Comp

>
>> National News? There's plenty of that.
>
> Is there? I've only seen regional news programmes (Stateline), plus short
> news updates.

It would be interesting to see the actual legislated list - someone did
post it on DBA but i cant remember where.

[Kevin Hendrikssen]

"Michael Trebilcock" <trebs@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Kevin Hendrikssen" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message

>>> Entertainment? TV = Entertainment..
>
> You didn't comment here.. but, why not look up in the dictionary what
> "entertainment" means.

Well it stands to reason doesn't it? ABC2 can show anything they like as
long as it's not entertaining.

>> The whole thing is farcical, so yes. Good on them for pushing the
>> boundaries a little... Why not make a submission to the digital TV takeup
>> inquiry suggesting the content restrictions be lifted?
>
> Got a url, postal address, phone number, email, etc?? :)

Refer to http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/cita/digitaltv/index.htm

[Kevin Hendrikssen]

"Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> It would be interesting to see the actual legislated list - someone did
> post it on DBA but i cant remember where.

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=15367

[sonwak]

those laws should be scrapped immediately, and whoever implemented them deported to new zealand and force fed series 1 of "the tribe" over and over.



"Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> It would be interesting to see the actual legislated list - someone did
> post it on DBA but i cant remember where.

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=15367

[Kevin Hendrikssen]

LOL, absolutely.


"sonwak" <sonwak.1mykif@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> those laws should be scrapped immediately, and whoever implemented them
> deported to new zealand and force fed series 1 of "the tribe" over and
> over.
>
>
>
> Kevin Hendrikssen Wrote:
>> "Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:4250f10c@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>>
>> > It would be interesting to see the actual legislated list - someone
>> did
>> > post it on DBA but i cant remember where.
>>
>> http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=15367
>
>
> --
> sonwak

[Jayson Barber]

Australia Wide is regional news - there won't be anything about the fed govt
or anything that affects austrlia as a whole.
WAFL IS regional footy so they can show that.. once again nothing affecting
australia as a whole.
entertainment .. noun... the act of entertaining
i delved a little further:
entertain verb To hold the attention of with something amusing or diverting.
(courtesy dictionary.com)
tv is not always entertaining.

jay

"Michael Trebilcock" <trebs@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Kevin Hendrikssen" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:4250e54d$0$19163$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> > "Michael Trebilcock" <trebs@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:4250de3c$0$19128$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> As shown on the ABC2 website FAQ section:
> >>
> >> Q: There's no drama, national sport, national news or current affairs
and
> >> no comedy or entertainment on ABC2. Why is that?
> >> A: Government legislation restricts the kinds of programs that can be
> >> shown on any additional digital channels broadcast by the ABC or SBS.
> >> Specifically, the legislation prevents ABC2 from broadcasting drama,
> >> national sport, national news or current affairs, comedy and
> >> entertainment. However, there'll be plenty of other programming to keep
> >> you busy - check the online program guide .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It can't broadcast drama? "The Tribe" seems like drama to me..
> >
> > They're allowed to show children's programmes so they can probably get
> > away with that.
> >
> >> National sport? I'm sure Western Australian Football is National Sport
> >>
(http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/abc2/200504/programs/SP0447W002D2042005T2330
00.htm),
> >
> > Is that part of a national comp or just a regional one (sorry I don't
> > follow AFL).
>
> Me neither.. OK I suppose it's regional...
>
> >> National News? There's plenty of that.
> >
> > Is there? I've only seen regional news programmes (Stateline), plus
short
> > news updates.
>
> Well.. Australia Wide, while they say it's regional news.. from every
> region.. well, it's national too, right?
>
> >> Current Affairs? Plenty of that too..
>
> > As per regional news?
>
> Perhaps I consider news to be current affairs.
>
> >> Comedy? Plenty of kids programs have comedy..
> >
> > Children's shows.
>
> Yeah.. Banana's in Pyjamas looks like comedy ;)
>
> >> Entertainment? TV = Entertainment..
>
> You didn't comment here.. but, why not look up in the dictionary what
> "entertainment" means.
>
> >> Well..
> >>
> >> They're just breaking everything aren't they..
> >>
> >> Why not broadcast stuff we want instead? You've already broken the
rules
> >> and can't get into more trouble! :-)
> >
> > The whole thing is farcical, so yes. Good on them for pushing the
> > boundaries a little... Why not make a submission to the digital TV
takeup
> > inquiry suggesting the content restrictions be lifted?
>
> Got a url, postal address, phone number, email, etc?? :)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
>

[JustMe]

"sonwak" <sonwak.1mykif@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> those laws should be scrapped immediately, and whoever implemented them
> deported to new zealand and force fed series 1 of "the tribe" over and
> over.
>
>
I don't know about you, but, after being force-fed advertising for so many
years on the commercial channels, I rather miss it when I watch ABC 2. Is
there any way they could show us some genteel, non-intrusive "Themed"
advertising like SBS do. ;<( (sarcasm)


Off topic.
I have literally raced down the digital TV road at the highest speed so that
I can finally control the relentless advertising that breaks the continuity
of anything that is worth watching. The more digital TV there is, the more
certain it is that the commercial TV financial model will become
unprofitable. Pay back time soon!

[GD]

"JustMe" <á@á> wrote in
news:4251eff5$0$5190$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au :

> The more digital TV
> there is, the more certain it is that the commercial TV financial
> model will become unprofitable. Pay back time soon!

Which is exactly why the media lobby groups that influence the
government will ensure that it will never happen in our lifetime.

[JustMe]

>> The more digital TV
>> there is, the more certain it is that the commercial TV financial
>> model will become unprofitable. Pay back time soon!
>
> Which is exactly why the media lobby groups that influence the
> government will ensure that it will never happen in our lifetime.
>

One thing that lobby groups can not do is make us watch TV. As the essential
meat in the sandwich between TV networks and the advertising industry, we
are fast becoming aware that our opinions and preferences are of no interest
to either side.
As the industry slides into the hole of indifference of its own making, It
seems I will not the be the only one saying "good riddance!"

[Rod Speed]

Kevin Hendrikssen <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter <nospam@nospam.com> wrote

>> It would be interesting to see the actual legislated list - someone did post
>> it on DBA but i cant remember where.

> http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=15367

A list that only political fuckwits could dream up.

Looks like Lateline is bending the rules quite aggressively
tho they likely would claim it qualifys as international news.

[robbo55]

entertainment .. noun... the act of entertaining

>[/color]

how stupid is that definition. lol i find definitions like that all over my stupid dictionary, i think its an oxford. and to make things worse, its a "pocket" dictionary that would need one of the biggest pockets in the world to hold it in