Re: Telstra launches SMS from fixed lines

[Rod Speed]

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>> Yep. Plenty will use a 30c SMS instead of a 40c voice call, fuckwit.

> Nope.

Yep.

> Fuck all will compared to doing it from one of
> the ever increasing number of mobiles in Aus.

Completely and utterly irrelevant to what happens ON PAYPHONES
WITH THOSE WHO DONT EVEN HAVE A WORKING MOBILE, fuckwit.

[Rod Speed]

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>> >> > > Melbourne has peak taxis, they are only licensed to operate in peak
>> >> hours,
>> >> > > like 12am-6am fri/sat/sun nights, or something like that, and the
>> > charge
>> >> > is
>> >> > > a 20% premium on normal costs
>> >> > >
>> >> > > do people use them? of course they do
>> >> >
>> >> > When there is no alternative, same as these SMS payphones.
>> >>
>> >> So you admit that they are used to cater for a different customer
> segment,
>> >> thus rendering your stupid "people will use their mobiles" argument
> invalid?
>>
>> > Nope
>>
>> You clearly are that stupid.

> Nope

Yep.

>> > - people will use mobiles wherever possible for SMS over these payphones
>>
>> PEOPLE WHO USE PAYPHONES DONT HAVE MOBILES, fuckwit.

> Fuck your slow.

Fuck you're pathetic.

> Never said people wont use payphones at all,

Never said you did.

> I said the payphone market in general is increasing
> (which you agreed wth in a previous post)

Presumably you meant the mobile market there.

COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO HOW THOSE WHO
DONT HAVE A WORKING MOBILE USE PAYPHONES.

Anyone with a clue can make voice calls for less than
the 40c it costs on a payphone with a mobile too. That
has NOT rendered payphones unused, fuckwit.

> and SMS from payphones will be competing
> with the ever increasing mobile usage.

Nope, just like cheaper than 40c voice calls from mobiles dont either.

> And it's checper to send an SMS from a
> mobile than one of these SMS payphones

Its cheaper to make a voice call from a mobile than a payphone
too if you have a clue about what plan to use on your mobile.

Mine generally cost about 12c per call.

> - not hard to work out what most people will do.

COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT WHAT THOSE WITH A MOBILE WILL DO.

ANYONE WITH A CLUE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY COUNTS YOU OUT, REALISES
THAT PAYPHONES AINT USED BY THOSE WITH A WORKING MOBILE
EXCEPT WHEN THEY WANT TO CONCEAL THEIR IDENTITY AND EVEN
SOMEONE AS STUPID AS YOU SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT THEY ARE
UNLIKELY TO CARE ABOUT THE 30c COST IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.

> All this makes these SMS payphones less likely to be viable for Telstra.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
that you've never ever had a fucking clue.

>>> - been saying that from the start.

>> Yep, been flaunting your terminal
>> stupidity all along. Nothing new there.

> squirm squirm squirm

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.

>> > It's widely known that mobile use is going
>> > up and payphone use is going down.

>> BECAUSE THOSE WHO HAVE MOBILES DONT USE PAYPHONES, fuckwit.

> Duh.

SO THE COST OF VOICE CALLS AND SMS FROM A PAYPHONE HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COST ON A MOBILE BECAUSE THOSE
WHO USE A PAYPHONE DONT HAVE A WORKING MOBILE, fuckwit.

> And most people have mobiles and growing all the time,

COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO USE PAYPHONES.

> which means less people will use payphones at all let alone for SMS,

COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO USE PAYPHONES.

> which less usage of these SMS jobs.

COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO USE PAYPHONES.

>>> Any normal person would use a standard fare cab over one of these
>>> peak times ones if a standard one was available. Peak one = last
>>> resort, just as an SMS payphone will be over a mobile.

>> Pathetic, really.

> Cant rebut it?

Done so repeatedly, fuckwit.

> Didnt think so.

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.

>> >> > > you pay a bit more for convenience.
>> >> >
>> >> > Having to stand at a payphone and type an SMS vs doing it anywhere
> (inc
>> >> > while walking along) on a mobile? Hardly makes the payphone the
>> > convenient
>> >> > choice.
>> >>
>> >> Youve just said the exact opposite of your above argument. Idiot
>> >> tap dancing away from the story, fooling no one at all
>>
>> > Ummm, you on drugs?

>> Nope, you are, and suffering from ear to ear dog shit as well.

> Nope

Yep.

>>> I clearly stated another reason to use a mobile for SMS over a payphone.

>> Pity THOSE WHO USE PAYPHONES DONT HAVE MOBILES, fuckwit.

> Pity I never said they did, fuckwit.

Pity I never said you did, fuckwit.

>> > Being tied to a payphone is less convenient
>> > than using a mobile - not that hard to understand.
>>
>> Pity THOSE WHO USE PAYPHONES DONT HAVE MOBILES, fuckwit.
>
> Pity I never said they did, fuckwit.

Pity I never said you did, fuckwit.

[Rod Speed]

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>> >> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >>
>> >> >>> And the customer wont give a shit how much the
>> >> >>> phone costs, just how much it's costs them to use.
>> >>
>> >> >> And they keep paying 40c for local calls from payphones, fuckwit.
>> >>
>> >> > Apples and oranges - comparing SMS costs here, not voice calls.
>> >>
>> >> Pathetic, really.
>>
>> > That's right - cant rebut it.
>>
>> Pathetic, really.

> Go on, bet you can't

Pathetic, really.

>> >> >>> Would people pay a higher cab fare because they were in a new
> falcon
>> >> >>> instead of a 5 year old one? Dont think so, but by your logic they
>> > would.
>> >>
>> >> >> Presumably you actually are that stupid.
>> >>
>> >> > Didnt think you could rebut it.
>> >>
>> >> Pathetic, really.
>>
>> > That's right - cant rebut it
>>
>> Pathetic, really.

> More old lines from the queen of them.

Pathetic, really.

[Frank]

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>>> Yep. Plenty will use a 30c SMS instead of a 40c voice call, fuckwit.
>
>> Nope.
>
> Yep.
>
>> Fuck all will compared to doing it from one of
>> the ever increasing number of mobiles in Aus.
>
> Completely and utterly irrelevant to what happens ON PAYPHONES
> WITH THOSE WHO DONT EVEN HAVE A WORKING MOBILE, fuckwit.

Povs tend to use up their prepaid credits fairly quickly so it would be easy
for them to go around begging from the public " can you spare 30 cents for a
SMS".

Frank

[Rod Speed]

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>>>> Yep. Plenty will use a 30c SMS instead of a 40c voice call, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>> Fuck all will compared to doing it from one of
>>> the ever increasing number of mobiles in Aus.
>>
>> Completely and utterly irrelevant to what happens ON PAYPHONES
>> WITH THOSE WHO DONT EVEN HAVE A WORKING MOBILE, fuckwit.

> Povs tend to use up their prepaid credits fairly quickly so it would be easy
> for them to go around begging from the public " can you spare 30 cents for a
> SMS".

Sure, thats what I meant with the use of the word 'working'

Kids too.

And while druggys may well use payphones for anonymity even when
they do have a working mobile phone, they wont give a flying red fuck
about a 30c or 40c charge for the use of the payphone for that reason.

[Brendon]

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> >> >> Payphones arent designed to be used by mobile customers. Completely
> >> >> different customer segment
> >> >
> >> > Fact: Most people in Australia have mobiles
> >>
> >> Fact: Most people in Australia have a fixed line phone and have had for
> >> years. That hasn't stopped people using payphones for voice calls.
>
> > You use a payphone when your out and about, not at home.
>
> Not if you have a mobile, fuckwit.

Thank you for agreeing with me again that mobiles are being used more and
payphones less.
Still dosnt change that I said re payphones at home.

> > We are talking about SMS from a payphone, not voice calls.
>
> Wrong.

Right

> > In many cases you can do a local call cheaper from a payphone than a
mobile,
>
> That aint why payphones are used, fuckwit.
>
> And anyone with a clue can make a local call from their
> mobile for less than the 40c it costs with a payphone, fool.

Talking about SMS here, not voice.

Not that I want to enter into a discussion about voice calls (this thread is
about SMS from payphones), I will say this and no more:

A ~20c flagfall has already used ~half the 40c payphone cost leaving only
~20c to use. Would leave only 20 seconds of talking on one of those 1c/sec
plans, or only give about 1 min talking total on iSim.

> > but that's not SMS.
>
> Must be one of those rocket scientist terminal fuckwits.

Dickhead

>
> > I'm not talking about payphones in general, just these new SMS jobs.
>
> SMS can be sent from most payphones, fuckwit.

Talking about those new SMS payphones

> Some who want to send an SMS from a payphone BECAUSE THEY DONT
> HAVE A MOBILE, will prefer to pay 30c it costs with one of the newer SMS
> capable payphones because its easier to enter the SMS, fuckwit.

Never said any of that wasnt true, never said that no-one would use them
(but please try and point out where I did - bet you cant). If you read
slowly, you might understand what I am fkn saying:

What I said was that these SMS payphones will have a hard time in the
marketplace because of the penetration of mobiles in Australia. I dont care
what anyone says, the mobile market in Australia is already huge and
growing, and SMS are a large part of that market, and that's what these SMS
payphones will have to compete with. Compare that to the shrinking payphone
market - SMS's make up only a small part of said shrinking market.

> It remains to be seen if there are enough of those WHO DONT HAVE A
> MOBILE to make it viable, but those payphones dont just do SMS, fuckwit.

Covered this plenty already

> >>> Fact: That is what these SMS payphones will be competing with
>
> >> Wrong. They are to coexist, not compete.
>
> > With mobile use so high Australia, thats what they WILL have
> > to compete with, no matter what Telstra or anyone else thinks.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never
> ever had a fucking clue.

Another old line from the queen of them.

> Its NEVER GOING TO BE POSSIBLE
> FOR PAYPHONES TO COMPETE WITH MOBILES

No shit, I've only been saying that from the start.

> and they
> aint even been attempting to do that when they charge 40c for
> a local call and anyone with a clue can make a call from a
> mobile for less than that. It isnt even viable competition for
> longer calls, because anyone with a clue uses a landline
> instead or a mobile with free longer calls etc.

This thread is about SMS from payphones, not voice. But:

I disagree with you on your point about local calls cheaper from mobile -
see above, but that dosnt change the fact that the mobile market is growing
and the payphone market is shrinking (which you have previlusly agreed
with).

Other than that, your agreeing with me about the payphone matket in general
and what it's up against.

> >> > Fact: SMS from a mobile is cheaper
>
> >> Fact: Phone calls from your home phone have been always been
> >> cheaper than payphones. That hasn't stopped the market for payphones.
>
> > See above.
>
> Completely useless, as always with your steaming turds.

Get a new line or something.

[Rod Speed]

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> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Brendon <no@way.man> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
>>>> that you've never ever had a fucking clue.

>>> Nope

>> Yep.

> Nope

Yep.

>>>> Payphones are used BY THOSE WHO
>>>> DONT HAVE MOBILE PHONES, FUCKWIT.

>>> Most people have mobiles and increasing, payphone use is going down.

>> BECAUSE PAYPHONES ARE USED BY THOSE WHO
>> DONT HAVE A WORKING MOBILE PHONE, FUCKWIT.

> Dont disagree - never said I did.

Never ever said you did.

> But, as you have previously agreed with, the number
> of people WITH a working mobile is ever increasing.

Thats distinctly arguable with the pathetic povs and kids
who manage to use up their credits on their prepaid phones
or have the battery run flat or just have them die etc.

Its amazing the rate at which stupid kids go thru mobile handsets.

>>>> Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that even tho
>>>> it costs 40c to make a local call on a payphone, compared with
>>>> 25c or so on a landline, the pathetic povs use payphones.

>>> Comparing SMS here, not voice.

>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever
>> had a fucking clue and couldnt bullshit your way out of a wet paper
>> bag even if your pathetic excuse for a 'life' depended on it.

> Need a new line there Rod.

Nope, you dont qualify.

>>>> Anyone with a clue can make a short call on their mobile
>>>> for a lot less the 40c it costs on a payphone too.

>>> Comparing SMS here, not voice.

>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever
>> had a fucking clue and couldnt bullshit your way out of a wet paper
>> bag even if your pathetic excuse for a 'life' depended on it.

> Need a new line there Rod.

Nope, you dont qualify.

[Brendon]

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> >> >> >> Payphones arent designed to be used by mobile customers.
Completely
> >> >> >> different customer segment
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Fact: Most people in Australia have mobiles
> >> >>
> >> >> Fact: Most people in Australia have a fixed line phone and have had
for
> >> >> years. That hasn't stopped people using payphones for voice calls.
> >>
> >> > You use a payphone when your out and about, not at home.
> >>
> >> Not if you have a mobile, fuckwit.
>
> > Thank you for agreeing with me again that mobiles are being used more
and
> > payphones less.
> > Still dosnt change that I said re payphones at home.
>
> Pathetic, really. Even you should be able
> to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

Get a new line - next...

>
> >> > We are talking about SMS from a payphone, not voice calls.
> >>
> >> Wrong.
> >
> > Right
>
> Wrong.

Next...

>
> >> > In many cases you can do a local call cheaper from a payphone than a
> > mobile,
> >>
> >> That aint why payphones are used, fuckwit.
> >>
> >> And anyone with a clue can make a local call from their
> >> mobile for less than the 40c it costs with a payphone, fool.
>
> > Talking about SMS here, not voice.
>
> Pathetic, really. Even you should be able
> to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

Next...

>
> > Not that I want to enter into a discussion about voice calls (this
> > thread is about SMS from payphones), I will say this and no more:
>
> > A ~20c flagfall has already used ~half the
> > 40c payphone cost leaving only ~20c to use.
>
> There aint a flagfall with all mobile plans, fuckwit.

Most have them

Next...

>
> > Would leave only 20 seconds of talking on one of those
> > 1c/sec plans, or only give about 1 min talking total on iSim.
>
> Plenty for anyone with a clue.

Most wouldnt have the knowledge of the mobile market that you and I have

Next...

> >> > but that's not SMS.
>
> >> Must be one of those rocket scientist terminal fuckwits.
>
> > Dickhead
>
> Fuckwit

Next...

>
> >>> I'm not talking about payphones in general, just these new SMS jobs.
>
> >> SMS can be sent from most payphones, fuckwit.
>
> > Talking about those new SMS payphones
>
> SMS can be sent from most payphones, fuckwit.

Talking about these new payphones where Telstra is spending big money to get
them. Big money in a shrinking market.

> >> Some who want to send an SMS from a payphone BECAUSE THEY DONT
> >> HAVE A MOBILE, will prefer to pay 30c it costs with one of the newer
SMS
> >> capable payphones because its easier to enter the SMS, fuckwit.
>
> > Never said any of that wasnt true, never said that no-one would
> > use them (but please try and point out where I did - bet you cant).
> > If you read slowly, you might understand what I am fkn saying:
>
> Pathetic, really. Even you should be able
> to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

Next...

>
> > What I said was that these SMS payphones will have a hard time in
> > the marketplace because of the penetration of mobiles in Australia.
>
> You're wrong when so many stupid kids and povs end
> up with no credit on their prepaid mobile phones and
> dont have a working one for various other reasons.

None of this changes the fact that SMS from mobiles is big business and
growing and the payphone market (of which SMS is a small part), is
shrinking, .

> > I dont care what anyone says, the mobile market
> > in Australia is already huge and growing,
>
> Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits.

Next...

>
> > and SMS are a large part of that market,
>
> Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits.

Next...

>
> > and that's what these SMS payphones will have to compete with.
>
> Nope. PAYPHONES AINT USED BY THOSE WITH A WORKING
> MOBILE PHONE, YOU SILLY LITTLE PIG IGNORANT FUCKWIT.

Covered this plenty already. Next...

>
> > Compare that to the shrinking payphone market - SMS's
> > make up only a small part of said shrinking market.
>
> The market of those stupid kids and povs end up with
> no credit on their prepaid mobile phones and dont have
> a working one for various other reasons aint shrinking.

See above. Next...

> In fact if anything its increasing as more and more of that end of
> the mobile market use prepaids and replacement handsets are
> so cheap that they dont last long in the hands of stupid kids, fuckwit.

Low use prepaid aint the only part of the mobile market that's growing, e.g.
capped plans.

> >> It remains to be seen if there are enough of those WHO DONT HAVE A
> >> MOBILE to make it viable, but those payphones dont just do SMS,
fuckwit.
>
> > Covered this plenty already
>
> Pathetic, really. Even you should be able
> to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

Next...

> >> >>> Fact: That is what these SMS payphones will be competing with
> >>
> >> >> Wrong. They are to coexist, not compete.
> >>
> >> > With mobile use so high Australia, thats what they WILL have
> >> > to compete with, no matter what Telstra or anyone else thinks.
> >>
> >> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never
> >> ever had a fucking clue.
> >
> > Another old line from the queen of them.
>
> Pathetic, really. Even you should be able
> to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

Next...


> >> Its NEVER GOING TO BE POSSIBLE FOR
> >> PAYPHONES TO COMPETE WITH MOBILES
>
> > No shit, I've only been saying that from the start.
>
> So stupid that you cant manage to work out that PAYPHONES
> AINT USED BY THOSE WITH A WORKING MOBILE.

I've no bloody idea why your still crapping on about this point when I agree
with you. It's a whole fucking part of what I've been saying from the start.


> >> and they aint even been attempting to do that when they
> >> charge 40c for a local call and anyone with a clue can make
> >> a call from a mobile for less than that. It isnt even viable
> >> competition for longer calls, because anyone with a clue
> >> uses a landline instead or a mobile with free longer calls etc.
>
> > This thread is about SMS from payphones, not voice. But:
>
> Wrong again. Its about what market remains for payphones, fuckwit.

Shrinking... Next...

> > I disagree with you on your point about
> > local calls cheaper from mobile - see above,
>
> Completely useless, as always with your mindlessly silly shit.

Next...

> If people cared about the cost of local calls on mobiles, they
> wouldnt be so widely used for local calls, you silly little fuckwit

Seperate to the cost comparison argument, people use mobiles regardless of
the cost of doing the same call from a payphone.
Thank you for pointing out that mobiles are widely used instead of
payphones - another thing I've been saying from the start.

> > but that dosnt change the fact that the mobile market is growing and
> > the payphone market is shrinking (which you have previlusly agreed
with).
>
> Lying again.

Next...

> The market of those stupid kids and povs end up with
> no credit on their prepaid mobile phones and dont have
> a working one for various other reasons aint shrinking.

Covered alrady. Next...

> In fact if anything its increasing as more and more of that end of
> the mobile market use prepaids and replacement handsets are
> so cheap that they dont last long in the hands of stupid kids, fuckwit.

See above. Next...

> > Other than that, your agreeing with me about the
> > payphone matket in general and what it's up against.
>
> Pigs arse I am.

Wrong, you are. Next...

> >>>>> Fact: SMS from a mobile is cheaper
>
> >>>> Fact: Phone calls from your home phone have been always been
> >>>> cheaper than payphones. That hasn't stopped the market for payphones.
>
> >>> See above.
>
> >> Completely useless, as always with your steaming turds.
>
> > Get a new line or something.
>
> Pathetic, really. Even you should be able
> to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

Next...

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> >
>
news:424694af$2$27870$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
....
> > > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3am3b8F67noa5U1@individual.net...
> > >>
> > >> "Brendon" <no@way.man> wrote in message
> > >>
> > >
>
news:4244d14f$1$31169$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
....
> > >> > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:3aj4hgF6c78r8U1@individual.net...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Brendon" <no@way.man> wrote in message
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >
>
news:4243def7$0$27858$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
....
> > >> >> > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:3ai0knF6bjdacU1@individual.net...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Brendon <no@way.man> wrote in message
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >
> > >
>
news:4243a521$0$27625$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
....
> > >> >> >> > Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> I hardly think that those who need to send SMS are going to
> baulk
> > > at
> > >> >> > 30c
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > They will when they can do it from their mobile for less.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Pity SMS from payphones aint for those that have a mobile,
> fuckwit.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Pity most people have a mobile, fuckwit.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Pity SMS from payphones aint for those that have a mobile,
fuckwit.
> > >> >
> > >> > Pity most people have a mobile, fuckwit.
> > >>
> > >> Pity SMS from payphones aint for those that have a mobile, fuckwit.
> > >
> > > No shit, thank you for agreeing with me yet again.
> >
> > Pathetic, really. Even you should be able to do better than that
pathetic
> > effort, child.
>
> Just stating fact.
>
> BTW, you need another new line.
>
>

You don't qualify, pathetic little gutless fuckwit.

[Rod Speed]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Brendon <no@way.man> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
news:42474d64$1$27622$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

[wpp]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Brendon <no@way.man> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
news:42474d64$1$27622$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

True harder, child. You might actually manage to fool someone, sometime.

[wpp]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Brendon <no@way.man> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
news:42474d64$1$27622$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

True harder, child. You might actually manage to fool someone, sometime.

[wpp]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Brendon <no@way.man> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
news:42474d64$1$27622$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

True harder, child. You might actually manage to fool someone, sometime.

[Brendon]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3ape8eF6f911mU4@individual.net...
> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> Brendon <no@way.man> desperately attempted to
> bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
>
news:42474d64$1$27622$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
> and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
>
> True harder, child. You might actually manage to fool someone, sometime.

Next...

[John Henderson]

Mopheus wrote:

> Take out your Optus mobile and make a 000 call. Better hope
> you dont get mugged between 8-12 because you will never get
> through during that time.

Most GSM phones these days map 000 to the standard international
emergency number: 112.

An emergency call will get through if there's enough signal (and
Timing Advance is within limits) from _any_ available carrier.
If necessary, some other call will get automatically thrown off
to give it priority access.

John

[Charlie Wong]

On Wed, 4 May 2005 13:20:50 +1000, Mopheus
<Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote:

>Take out your Optus mobile and make a 000 call. Better hope you dont
>get mugged between 8-12 because you will never get through during that
>time.

Many (if not all of the new phones) translate 000 into 112.

These calls get priority on the network. A call will be dropped to
have the emergency call carried. Additionally, any available network
coverage will be used to carry the call.

[Michael]

"Mopheus" <Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
news:Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>
> Charlie Wong Wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:30:53 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >And who contributes most to USO? Telstra.
> >
> > Not interested. Some community services have to be provided.
> >
> > Ask Optus or Voda? Ohhh wait.. they are not into making non-profit
> > making investments just for the sake of the community.
> >
> > What happens when you get mugged and have no way of calling the
> > Emergency number? You need a payphone.
>
> Take out your Optus mobile and make a 000 call. Better hope you dont
> get mugged between 8-12 because you will never get through during that
> time.

Thats why you use 112 instead

[Michael]

"John Henderson" <jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote in message
news:3dr4ogF6skshtU1@individual.net...
> Mopheus wrote:
>
> > Take out your Optus mobile and make a 000 call. Better hope
> > you dont get mugged between 8-12 because you will never get
> > through during that time.
>
> Most GSM phones these days map 000 to the standard international
> emergency number: 112.

Incorrect

> An emergency call will get through if there's enough signal (and
> Timing Advance is within limits) from _any_ available carrier.
> If necessary, some other call will get automatically thrown off
> to give it priority access.

This is ONLY when using 112

Dont give out dangerous misinformation, please

[Charlie Wong]

On Thu, 05 May 2005 10:13:55 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>This is ONLY when using 112

For a number of years mobiles sold in Australia have translations for
000 to 112 programmed into the handsets.

[John Henderson]

Charlie Wong wrote:

> For a number of years mobiles sold in Australia have
> translations for 000 to 112 programmed into the handsets.

Two seperate mechanisms are specified in the GSM standards to
treat "local" emergency numbers (000, 911, etc) as 112 calls.
The handset itself can be programmed with the translation
table, or the SIM can have up to 5 emergency numbers configured
in the EF-ECC (Emergency Call Codes) file.

Best to use 112, but there'll always be those who don't know
about it. It's increasingly the case that 000 gets treated as
a priority emergency call for them.

My phone allows 112, 000 and 911 to be dialled as "SOS" calls
even with the keypad still locked.

John