Re: Telstra launches SMS from fixed lines

[Rod Speed]

"Mopheus" <Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Charlie Wong Wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:30:53 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >And who contributes most to USO? Telstra.
>>
>> Not interested. Some community services have to be provided.
>>
>> Ask Optus or Voda? Ohhh wait.. they are not into making non-profit
>> making investments just for the sake of the community.
>>
>> What happens when you get mugged and have no way of calling the
>> Emergency number? You need a payphone.
>
> Take out your Optus mobile and make a 000 call. Better hope you dont
> get mugged between 8-12 because you will never get through during that
> time.

Mindless pig ignorant drivel.

[Rod Speed]

"John Henderson" <jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote in message
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> Charlie Wong wrote:
>
>> For a number of years mobiles sold in Australia have
>> translations for 000 to 112 programmed into the handsets.
>
> Two seperate mechanisms are specified in the GSM standards to
> treat "local" emergency numbers (000, 911, etc) as 112 calls.
> The handset itself can be programmed with the translation
> table, or the SIM can have up to 5 emergency numbers configured
> in the EF-ECC (Emergency Call Codes) file.
>
> Best to use 112, but there'll always be those who don't know
> about it. It's increasingly the case that 000 gets treated as
> a priority emergency call for them.

> My phone allows 112, 000 and 911 to be dialled
> as "SOS" calls even with the keypad still locked.

Stupid approach in my opinion.

[Michael]

"Charlie Wong" <willwasteyou@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 May 2005 10:13:55 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >This is ONLY when using 112
>
> For a number of years mobiles sold in Australia have translations for
> 000 to 112 programmed into the handsets.

[Michael]

"Charlie Wong" <willwasteyou@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 May 2005 10:13:55 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >This is ONLY when using 112
>
> For a number of years mobiles sold in Australia have translations for
> 000 to 112 programmed into the handsets.

Some. And definately not something to be relied on

[Simon Templar]

Michael wrote:
> "Mopheus" <Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>
>>Charlie Wong Wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:30:53 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And who contributes most to USO? Telstra.
>>>
>>>Not interested. Some community services have to be provided.
>>>
>>>Ask Optus or Voda? Ohhh wait.. they are not into making non-profit
>>>making investments just for the sake of the community.
>>>
>>>What happens when you get mugged and have no way of calling the
>>>Emergency number? You need a payphone.
>>
>>Take out your Optus mobile and make a 000 call. Better hope you dont
>>get mugged between 8-12 because you will never get through during that
>>time.
>
>
> Thats why you use 112 instead

I seem to remember many years ago telling Optarse to FUCK OFF and
refused to pay out a contract because they blocked 112 calls.

I had a situation where I repeatedly dialed 000 and 112 on the handset
and the calls continually dropped out making it impossible to get a
message out. I then had to take the phone out of it's cover, remove the
battery and the SIM and then put the phone back together. The first
call to 112 went straight through.

Optarse didn't give a shit at the time, admitted that was the way they
had set up their network and SIM cards and refused to fix it. I was
hassled for a while until I abused the shit out of a debt collector
telling them what happened and NEVER heard from them or Optarse again.

It may well have been fixed up because this was the early days of GSM
and a long time ago. But I have refused to go near them again because
of it.


--
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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452
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[John Henderson]

Simon Templar wrote:

> I seem to remember many years ago telling Optarse to FUCK OFF
> and refused to pay out a contract because they blocked 112
> calls.
>
> I had a situation where I repeatedly dialed 000 and 112 on the
> handset and the calls continually dropped out making it
> impossible to get a message out. I then had to take the phone
> out of it's cover, remove the battery and the SIM and then put
> the phone back together. The first call to 112 went straight
> through.
>
> Optarse didn't give a shit at the time, admitted that was the
> way they had set up their network and SIM cards and refused to
> fix it. I was hassled for a while until I abused the shit out
> of a debt collector telling them what happened and NEVER heard
> from them or Optarse again.

I've sometimes wondered whether this problem could arise because
of Timing Advance being to large (ie, TA > 63 because we're
more than 35 km from a BTS). If the home network has good
signal strength, but TA > 63, a 112 call would repeatedly fail
if only that network was tried. Take out the SIM, there's no
home network, and the strongest signal might well be from a
network with TA <= 63.

John

[Michael]

"Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote:
> > "Mopheus" <Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:Mopheus.1ohmgm@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
> >
> >>Charlie Wong Wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:30:53 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>And who contributes most to USO? Telstra.
> >>>
> >>>Not interested. Some community services have to be provided.
> >>>
> >>>Ask Optus or Voda? Ohhh wait.. they are not into making non-profit
> >>>making investments just for the sake of the community.
> >>>
> >>>What happens when you get mugged and have no way of calling the
> >>>Emergency number? You need a payphone.
> >>
> >>Take out your Optus mobile and make a 000 call. Better hope you dont
> >>get mugged between 8-12 because you will never get through during that
> >>time.
> >
> >
> > Thats why you use 112 instead
>
> I seem to remember many years ago telling Optarse to FUCK OFF and
> refused to pay out a contract because they blocked 112 calls.

And no-one believed you then, and I still dont believe you now.

> I had a situation where I repeatedly dialed 000 and 112 on the handset
> and the calls continually dropped out making it impossible to get a
> message out. I then had to take the phone out of it's cover, remove the
> battery and the SIM and then put the phone back together. The first
> call to 112 went straight through.

Its called a phone fault
Get over it.
I have always been able to make 112 calls from any Optus service from all
the Optus SPs I have used
>
> Optarse didn't give a shit at the time, admitted that was the way they
> had set up their network and SIM cards and refused to fix it. I was
> hassled for a while until I abused the shit out of a debt collector
> telling them what happened and NEVER heard from them or Optarse again.
>
> It may well have been fixed up because this was the early days of GSM
> and a long time ago. But I have refused to go near them again because
> of it.
>
>
> --
> The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.
>
> 73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
>
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452
> VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

[Martin Taylor]

Michael said....

> Its called a phone fault
> Get over it.
> I have always been able to make 112 calls from any Optus service from all
> the Optus SPs I have used


You find yourself in emergency situations a lot, then?

[Michael]

"Martin Taylor" <mjpt57@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael said....
>
> > Its called a phone fault
> > Get over it.
> > I have always been able to make 112 calls from any Optus service from
all
> > the Optus SPs I have used
>
>
> You find yourself in emergency situations a lot, then?

Not really. Maybe once or twice a year.
Seen a couple of blokes bashing each other up, a few car crashes