Digital TV Tuner Cards

[Richard_Hatch]

Has anyone got a Digital tv tuner card for their pc ?
Any advice or ideas ?
what hardware requirements would i need. ?

Thank you in advance.
p.s. If this has been covered in a previous thread, apologies and please direct me to it.

[wolfie]

I got my dpanda digital tv card from here www.dpanda.com.au
I waited for ages for a digital tv card to arrive and his was the first one
to hit the market here. Having played with some other cards in my new PC,
the panda still outperforms anything else I have tried.
Cheers

Wolfie

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> Has anyone got a Digital tv tuner card for their pc ?
> Any advice or ideas ?
> what hardware requirements would i need. ?
>
> Thank you in advance.
> p.s. If this has been covered in a previous thread, apologies and
> please direct me to it.
>
>
> --
> Richard_Hatch

[Richard_Hatch]

I got my dpanda digital tv card from here www.dpanda.com.au
I waited for ages for a digital tv card to arrive and his was the first one
to hit the market here. Having played with some other cards in my new PC,
the panda still outperforms anything else I have tried.
Cheers


Thanks for that , will go and check it out.. :)

[JustMe]

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> wolfie Wrote:
>> I got my dpanda digital tv card from here www.dpanda.com.au
>> I waited for ages for a digital tv card to arrive and his was the first
>> one
>> to hit the market here. Having played with some other cards in my new
>> PC,
>> the panda still outperforms anything else I have tried.
>> Cheers
>>
>>
> Thanks for that , will go and check it out.. :)
>
>
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> Richard_Hatch

Wider range here http://www.digitalnow.com.au/

DNTV Live! is my choice.

[Richard_Hatch]

Wider range here http://www.digitalnow.com.au/

DNTV Live! is my choice.

Thanks, That model is out of stock unfortunately.. :)

[JustMe]

>> DNTV Live! is my choice.
>
> Thanks, That model is out of stock unfortunately.. :)
>
>
> --
> Richard_Hatch

Is a pretty popular tuner card. A quick email will tell you when it will be
restocked. These are good people to deal with.

[Gilgamesh]

"Richard_Hatch" <Richard_Hatch.1n0owg@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in
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>
> Has anyone got a Digital tv tuner card for their pc ?
> Any advice or ideas ?
> what hardware requirements would i need. ?
>
> Thank you in advance.
> p.s. If this has been covered in a previous thread, apologies and
> please direct me to it.

I have the DigiTV card from Nebula Electronics.
If you want HDTV a 2.6GHz system is recommended.

>
>
> --
> Richard_Hatch

[John Saunders]

My recommendation would be to get a K-World V-Stream PCI
card and with the money you save buy ShowShifter. The V-Stream
has good hardware but the software CD is better off zapped in
a microwave where it will do no harm. BDA drivers are available
from the website.

The Nebula card has great software, and a price tag to go
with it. The DNTV Live has good hardware, the software shows
promise but is not yet ready for prime-time (I am watching TV,
as I write, on my DNTV Live and it just got a divide by 0
error when I changed channels). Although with the policy of
frequent updates, if you can wait it should become top notch.
It also works with a miriad of other software (like ShowShifter)
thanks to BDA drivers.

I have no direct experience with the DVICO FusionHDTV but
going by reports it seems good. Also no direct experience
with the VisionPlus TwinhanDTV, except when I looked at it
there was no BDA driver support making it a non-starter for
me.

Using a codec that supports DxVA I get 30% CPU with HDTV and
14% with SDTV. With a non-DxVA codec I get 60% and 25%. That
is on an AthlonXP 3200+ with a RADEON 9600XT.

Recording uses much less CPU as there is no decoding/encoding
involved, just disk writing. Just make sure that DMA is working
on your disks.

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> Has anyone got a Digital tv tuner card for their pc ?
> Any advice or ideas ?
> what hardware requirements would i need. ?
>
> Thank you in advance.
> p.s. If this has been covered in a previous thread, apologies and
> please direct me to it.
>
>
> --
> Richard_Hatch

[Ian Galbraith]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:54:39 +0930, "Gilgamesh" <me@spam.me.not.com>
wrote:

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>> Has anyone got a Digital tv tuner card for their pc ?
>> Any advice or ideas ?
>> what hardware requirements would i need. ?

>> Thank you in advance.
>> p.s. If this has been covered in a previous thread, apologies and
>> please direct me to it.

>I have the DigiTV card from Nebula Electronics.

I recommend the DNTV Live.

>If you want HDTV a 2.6GHz system is recommended.

Only if you don't have a dxva compatible video card and drivers. It
runs fine on my system, Athlon 1800xp with 128mb Radeon 9550.

[Falco]

I have the dpanda card with showshifter. Works a treat.



"John Saunders" <news1@saunders.id.au> wrote in message
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> My recommendation would be to get a K-World V-Stream PCI
> card and with the money you save buy ShowShifter. The V-Stream
> has good hardware but the software CD is better off zapped in
> a microwave where it will do no harm. BDA drivers are available
> from the website.
>
> The Nebula card has great software, and a price tag to go
> with it. The DNTV Live has good hardware, the software shows
> promise but is not yet ready for prime-time (I am watching TV,
> as I write, on my DNTV Live and it just got a divide by 0
> error when I changed channels). Although with the policy of
> frequent updates, if you can wait it should become top notch.
> It also works with a miriad of other software (like ShowShifter)
> thanks to BDA drivers.
>
> I have no direct experience with the DVICO FusionHDTV but
> going by reports it seems good. Also no direct experience
> with the VisionPlus TwinhanDTV, except when I looked at it
> there was no BDA driver support making it a non-starter for
> me.
>
> Using a codec that supports DxVA I get 30% CPU with HDTV and
> 14% with SDTV. With a non-DxVA codec I get 60% and 25%. That
> is on an AthlonXP 3200+ with a RADEON 9600XT.
>
> Recording uses much less CPU as there is no decoding/encoding
> involved, just disk writing. Just make sure that DMA is working
> on your disks.
>
> "Richard_Hatch" <Richard_Hatch.1n0owg@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in
> message news:Richard_Hatch.1n0owg@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>
>> Has anyone got a Digital tv tuner card for their pc ?
>> Any advice or ideas ?
>> what hardware requirements would i need. ?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>> p.s. If this has been covered in a previous thread, apologies and
>> please direct me to it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Richard_Hatch
>
>

[Rod Speed]

Richard_Hatch <Richard_Hatch.1n0owg@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au>
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> Has anyone got a Digital tv tuner card for their pc ?

Yes, a DNTV Live!

> Any advice or ideas ?

Think about what you want to do with what you capture.
Its a lot easier to play them on the PC with a video card
with TV out etc than it is to write them to a DVD and play
them in a standard DVD player, essentially because you
dont get a whole lot on a single DVD with the raw files
the card produces, about an hour per DVD.

While you can certainly massage the files to much smaller
files that play fine in a standalone DVD player, it takes quite
a bit of time to do the massaging, even if you dont bother
to trim out the ads and clip the start and end crap etc.

> what hardware requirements would i need. ?

Really depends on how you want to watch the captured files.
You need a decent video card with TV out etc if you want to
play the files on the PC and watch them on a TV.

If you dont want to play them on the PC, you dont need much
of a PC, 1G is fine, if you are happy to write the files to DVDs.
Roxio Easy Media Creator will chop files up into DVD sized
bits automatically as you burn them to DVD, you just have to
change the DVD when say you play a movie in the DVD player.

If you want to massage the files into much smaller files for
say uploading to the net etc, or to fit a movie on a single DVD,
you need a PC with a decent amount of horsepower to massage
the files in a reasonable time and even with what's affordable,
its something like the running time of the movie for the massage.

[Richard_Hatch]

It also works with a miriad of other software (like ShowShifter)
thanks to BDA drivers.


Pardon my ignorance, but what is BDA? I am so far behind the times on
these things, it is not funny..


Using a codec that supports DxVA I get 30% CPU with HDTV and
14% with SDTV. With a non-DxVA codec I get 60% and 25%. That
is on an AthlonXP 3200+ with a RADEON 9600XT.

Recording uses much less CPU as there is no decoding/encoding
involved, just disk writing. Just make sure that DMA is working
on your disks.


Again, what is DxVA ?
And whew, i understand the DMA part. At least i know something.
Thanks John for your excellent and informative post..
and to the other great souls that have taught me so much .

[Mr Walker]

John Saunders wrote:
> My recommendation would be to get a K-World V-Stream PCI
> card and with the money you save buy ShowShifter.

I've just got that combo but can't get S /S to see more than one set of
channels at a time. For instance SBS digital 1/2/EPG.

Any tips on the setup, please?

Cheers, Mr Walker.

[Anthony Horan]

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:16:51 +1000, Richard_Hatch wrote:

> John Saunders Wrote:
>>
>> It also works with a miriad of other software (like ShowShifter)
>> thanks to BDA drivers.
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but what is BDA? I am so far behind the times on
> these things, it is not funny..

BDA stands for Broadcast Driver Architecture - yep, yet another new
"standard" :) Windows Media Centre Edition apparently supports it.

>> Using a codec that supports DxVA I get 30% CPU with HDTV and
>
> Again, what is DxVA ?

That's easier - and more useful to people. DirectX Video Acceleration (in
other words, video hardware that directly supports DirectX).


- Anthony

[Richard_Hatch]

My recommendation would be to get a K-World V-Stream PCI


... and the winner is ..... John..
I got a V-Stream yesterday from the computer fair for $105 .
I installed it and it worked perfect right up..
I am way chuffed..

Thanks to all for your excellent advice.
dicky

[John Saunders]

Get the 4.0.108.0 drivers from here:

http://www.kworld.com.tw/en/download/dvb-t-pci.html

The 4.0.99.0 drivers are not BDA compliant and the
standard problem seen is the inability to change
frequencies.

When you upgrade the drivers, check the driver details
in control panel and make sure you see 4.0.108.0 on
the files. If I remember rightly I had to fiddle a
bit to get Windows to stop thinking it already had
the best drivers and make it install the new ones.


"Mr Walker" <ego@statistical.con> wrote in message
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> John Saunders wrote:
>> My recommendation would be to get a K-World V-Stream PCI
>> card and with the money you save buy ShowShifter.
>
> I've just got that combo but can't get S /S to see more than one set of
> channels at a time. For instance SBS digital 1/2/EPG.
>
> Any tips on the setup, please?
>
> Cheers, Mr Walker.
>
>

[Mr Walker]

John Saunders wrote:
> Get the 4.0.108.0 drivers from here:
>
> http://www.kworld.com.tw/en/download/dvb-t-pci.html
>

I already had those. Looking in device manager it says 4.0.108.0. But S/S
will not find any channels until the Kworld software has been installed &
then only the last used channel(s).

By this I mean that if open the V-Stream s/w, watch channel 7 & then close
the program, open S/S & do a channel search it will find 300+ channels but
only in the CH7 group. Example 100 channels of seven digital, 100 of 7 guide
& 100 of 7HD. I can then use those normally but if I want S/S to get the 10
group I have to reopen the v-stream s/w, choose one of the CH10 group &
close down again. Then I redo the channel search in S/S & it finds 300+ CH10
group! It loses the 7 group & so it goes on :-(.

Any clues, please?

Cheers, Mr Walker.