DVD Recorder - Editing Software???

[·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`]

I have a Panasonic DVD Recorder which records shows to DVD as *.vro files.

Has anyone found a simple, all in one PC ediing solution?

The first issue is that a *.vro file is basically an *.mpg file. You can
simply copy the file from DVD to PC HD and play it with any player but there
is a big issue with this.

The way that DVD Recorders file the seperate programs is to just add the new
program onto the end of the old one. You only ever have one file which just
increases in size as you record more shows.
ie
1 x 20 min program = 1 x 1 Gig file
2 x 20 min program = 1 x 2 Gig file
3 x 20 min program = 1 x 3 Gig file
4 x 20 min program = 1 x 4 Gig file
etc

The PC does not handle this well and will see the 4 Gig file but will only
play the first 20 nins (1 Gig) and then stop.
There is no way to get a normal Mpg player to see and/or play parts 2,3 or 4
etc.

There are plenty of PC apps which will
A) Divide the program properly
B) Edit out the adds
C) Compile the programs
D) Create Thumbnails for each video segment
E) Create a DVD from the files
F) Create Chapters for each file
G) Add DVD Menus and Navigation
H) Burn to DVD-R

The issue is that you need twelve different applications. One to perform
each function. And it takes hours to complete as you importand edit and
export and then import and edit and export over and over again.

I am after an all-in-one application which will do all of the above in one
smooth logical progression.

I know that the DVD Recorder can do a basic job of all these but the final
product ends up with very bland menus with empty spaces where the 5th, 6th,
7th and 8th program would have been (if you had 8 programs) and the menus
have no sound, no movement and very little artistic control over the end
product.

What would be nice is if a DVD Recorder manufacturer shipped a Recorder with
a CD containg PC editing software.

This may be a long time coming, but in the meantime has anyone found a third
party product (under $4000.00) that will do this without needing an
additional $4000.00 course to understand how to use the software. Some of
the professional video editing software will do this but they come with so
many other options that they are unusable by the average Joe.

Dingbat

[Waynus]

I have a Panasonic DVD Recorder which records shows to DVD as *.vro files.

Has anyone found a simple, all in one PC ediing solution?

The first issue is that a *.vro file is basically an *.mpg file. You can
simply copy the file from DVD to PC HD and play it with any player but there
is a big issue with this.

The way that DVD Recorders file the seperate programs is to just add the new
program onto the end of the old one. You only ever have one file which just
increases in size as you record more shows.
ie
1 x 20 min program = 1 x 1 Gig file
2 x 20 min program = 1 x 2 Gig file
3 x 20 min program = 1 x 3 Gig file
4 x 20 min program = 1 x 4 Gig file
etc

The PC does not handle this well and will see the 4 Gig file but will only
play the first 20 nins (1 Gig) and then stop.
There is no way to get a normal Mpg player to see and/or play parts 2,3 or 4
etc.

There are plenty of PC apps which will
A) Divide the program properly
B) Edit out the adds
C) Compile the programs
D) Create Thumbnails for each video segment
E) Create a DVD from the files
F) Create Chapters for each file
G) Add DVD Menus and Navigation
H) Burn to DVD-R

The issue is that you need twelve different applications. One to perform
each function. And it takes hours to complete as you importand edit and
export and then import and edit and export over and over again.

I am after an all-in-one application which will do all of the above in one
smooth logical progression.

I know that the DVD Recorder can do a basic job of all these but the final
product ends up with very bland menus with empty spaces where the 5th, 6th,
7th and 8th program would have been (if you had 8 programs) and the menus
have no sound, no movement and very little artistic control over the end
product.

What would be nice is if a DVD Recorder manufacturer shipped a Recorder with
a CD containg PC editing software.

This may be a long time coming, but in the meantime has anyone found a third
party product (under $4000.00) that will do this without needing an
additional $4000.00 course to understand how to use the software. Some of
the professional video editing software will do this but they come with so
many other options that they are unusable by the average Joe.

Dingbat
I have a Panasonic DMR-E85 and the way I do it is:
1. Copy the .vro file to computer from the DVD-Ram disc;
2. Rename the .vro file to .mpg;
3. Open TMPGEncDVDAuthor and create a new project;
4. Add the .mpg file;
5. Edit it as required - remove ads, create chapters etc;
6. Add any additional files and edit;
7. Create the menu with thumbnails if required;
8. Output it to a completed DVD standard file;
9. Burn with Nero or Prassi Ones or other burning prog.
Total time depending on how much editing is less than an hour.
Here's a guide. (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/tmpg-dvdauthor.htm)

[Han]

·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯` wrote:

> I have a Panasonic DVD Recorder which records shows to DVD as *.vro files.
>
> Has anyone found a simple, all in one PC ediing solution?

> There are plenty of PC apps which will
> A) Divide the program properly
> B) Edit out the adds
> C) Compile the programs
> D) Create Thumbnails for each video segment
> E) Create a DVD from the files
> F) Create Chapters for each file
> G) Add DVD Menus and Navigation
> H) Burn to DVD-R
>
> The issue is that you need twelve different applications. One to perform
> each function. And it takes hours to complete as you importand edit and
> export and then import and edit and export over and over again.
>
> I am after an all-in-one application which will do all of the above in one
> smooth logical progression.

DVD Author will do all of the above for you. No need to copy and rename
*.vro to *.mpg either. Rather than selecting 'add file' choose 'add dvd
video' and select the RAM disk. It will find all the individual
recordings and you can choose which to add.

Edit out the ads (I find this more convenient to do on the recorder but
YMMV), add chapters, create the menus, output and burn. Too easy.

Download the trial
http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda.html

Cheers

[·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`]

> DVD Author will do all of the above for you. No need to copy and rename
> *.vro to *.mpg either. Rather than selecting 'add file' choose 'add dvd
> video' and select the RAM disk. It will find all the individual recordings
> and you can choose which to add.
>
> Edit out the ads (I find this more convenient to do on the recorder but
> YMMV), add chapters, create the menus, output and burn. Too easy.
>
> Download the trial
> http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda.html
>
> Cheers

Thanks guys, I will check 'em out

[nemer]

·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯` wrote:
> I have a Panasonic DVD Recorder which records shows to DVD as *.vro files.
>
> Has anyone found a simple, all in one PC ediing solution?
>
> The first issue is that a *.vro file is basically an *.mpg file. You can
> simply copy the file from DVD to PC HD and play it with any player but there
> is a big issue with this.
>
> The way that DVD Recorders file the seperate programs is to just add the new
> program onto the end of the old one. You only ever have one file which just
> increases in size as you record more shows.
> ie
> 1 x 20 min program = 1 x 1 Gig file
> 2 x 20 min program = 1 x 2 Gig file
> 3 x 20 min program = 1 x 3 Gig file
> 4 x 20 min program = 1 x 4 Gig file
> etc
>
> The PC does not handle this well and will see the 4 Gig file but will only
> play the first 20 nins (1 Gig) and then stop.
> There is no way to get a normal Mpg player to see and/or play parts 2,3 or 4
> etc.
>
> There are plenty of PC apps which will
> A) Divide the program properly
> B) Edit out the adds
> C) Compile the programs
> D) Create Thumbnails for each video segment
> E) Create a DVD from the files
> F) Create Chapters for each file
> G) Add DVD Menus and Navigation
> H) Burn to DVD-R
>
> The issue is that you need twelve different applications. One to perform
> each function. And it takes hours to complete as you importand edit and
> export and then import and edit and export over and over again.
>
> I am after an all-in-one application which will do all of the above in one
> smooth logical progression.
>
> I know that the DVD Recorder can do a basic job of all these but the final
> product ends up with very bland menus with empty spaces where the 5th, 6th,
> 7th and 8th program would have been (if you had 8 programs) and the menus
> have no sound, no movement and very little artistic control over the end
> product.
>
> What would be nice is if a DVD Recorder manufacturer shipped a Recorder with
> a CD containg PC editing software.
>
> This may be a long time coming, but in the meantime has anyone found a third
> party product (under $4000.00) that will do this without needing an
> additional $4000.00 course to understand how to use the software. Some of
> the professional video editing software will do this but they come with so
> many other options that they are unusable by the average Joe.
>
> Dingbat
>
>
>
Try VideoReDo. Not cheap but best of class.

[JustMe]

>> This may be a long time coming, but in the meantime has anyone found a
>> third
>> party product (under $4000.00) that will do this without needing an
>> additional $4000.00 course to understand how to use the software. Some of
>> the professional video editing software will do this but they come with
>> so many other options that they are unusable by the average Joe.
>>
>> Dingbat
>>
>>
>>
> Try VideoReDo. Not cheap but best of class.

Yup. What he said. Priceless. Intuitive Quick.

[Fred At Home]

"nemer" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:4254d540@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> ·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯` wrote:
>> I have a Panasonic DVD Recorder which records shows to DVD as *.vro
>> files.
>>
>> Has anyone found a simple, all in one PC ediing solution?
>>
>> The first issue is that a *.vro file is basically an *.mpg file. You can
>> simply copy the file from DVD to PC HD and play it with any player but
>> there is a big issue with this.
>>
>> The way that DVD Recorders file the seperate programs is to just add the
>> new program onto the end of the old one. You only ever have one file
>> which just increases in size as you record more shows.
>> ie
>> 1 x 20 min program = 1 x 1 Gig file
>> 2 x 20 min program = 1 x 2 Gig file
>> 3 x 20 min program = 1 x 3 Gig file
>> 4 x 20 min program = 1 x 4 Gig file
>> etc
>>
>> The PC does not handle this well and will see the 4 Gig file but will
>> only play the first 20 nins (1 Gig) and then stop.
>> There is no way to get a normal Mpg player to see and/or play parts 2,3
>> or 4 etc.
>>
>> There are plenty of PC apps which will
>> A) Divide the program properly
>> B) Edit out the adds
>> C) Compile the programs
>> D) Create Thumbnails for each video segment
>> E) Create a DVD from the files
>> F) Create Chapters for each file
>> G) Add DVD Menus and Navigation
>> H) Burn to DVD-R
>>
>> The issue is that you need twelve different applications. One to perform
>> each function. And it takes hours to complete as you importand edit and
>> export and then import and edit and export over and over again.
>>
>> I am after an all-in-one application which will do all of the above in
>> one smooth logical progression.
>>
>> I know that the DVD Recorder can do a basic job of all these but the
>> final product ends up with very bland menus with empty spaces where the
>> 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th program would have been (if you had 8 programs) and
>> the menus have no sound, no movement and very little artistic control
>> over the end product.
>>
>> What would be nice is if a DVD Recorder manufacturer shipped a Recorder
>> with a CD containg PC editing software.
>>
>> This may be a long time coming, but in the meantime has anyone found a
>> third party product (under $4000.00) that will do this without needing an
>> additional $4000.00 course to understand how to use the software. Some of
>> the professional video editing software will do this but they come with
>> so many other options that they are unusable by the average Joe.
>>
>> Dingbat
>>
>>
>>
> Try VideoReDo. Not cheap but best of class.

Yes most definitely. Best MPEG editor around.