Re: 100,000km in Astra: report

[Samual]

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 05:27:29 +0800, "Clockmeister"
<no-one@nowhere.com> wrote:


>> Well it was on the last model and on the new one too.
>
>The new one has a chain.

Really?

Now if that needs changing before 160-200K they should be shot.

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>> It is unforgiveable to have to change pads and rotors at 40,000k in
>> normal usage.
>>
>
>Not when you have excellent stopping power for 40,000km (usually more
>anyway, that is an extreme) compared to the brake problems that have plagued
>Commodores and Falcon's since EA/VN.

I only drive those cars occasionally at work, brakes seem fine, more
then fine. They cop heaps of abuse believe me and hold up fine.

>Like I said, rotors are a service item in Europe, did I stutter? Won't be
>long before Australia catches up...

You keep saying that.

What does that mean?

They did it on purpose? They want us to have to change pads AND discs
at the first change?

Believe it or not I am a Mechanical Engineer by training. Why the fuck
would you have two primary wearable components in the brake system?
Why not have hard discs and large soft pads? Why would you want to
throw away such a big component such a rotor so often? Sounds
ecologically irresponsible to me. Call me old fashioned, but I almost
think rotors should last the life of the car.

I also doubt very much that Europeans pay less then us for these
items. Do you have figures?

Sam

[Toby Ponsenby]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:30:41 +0800, Clockmeister wrote:

> About $30 to $45 a disc for the Astra, I was told by an English tech.

That freight's a killer, wot?


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[Samual]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:30:41 +0800, "Clockmeister"
<no-one@nowhere.com> wrote:

>> >Like I said, rotors are a service item in Europe, did I stutter? Won't be
>> >long before Australia catches up...
>>
>> You keep saying that.
>>
>> What does that mean?
>>
>> They did it on purpose? They want us to have to change pads AND discs
>> at the first change?
>
>Nope, when they need doing obviously. For most people that is 60,000km plus.
>
>> Believe it or not I am a Mechanical Engineer by training. Why the fuck
>> would you have two primary wearable components in the brake system?
>> Why not have hard discs and large soft pads? Why would you want to
>> throw away such a big component such a rotor so often? Sounds
>> ecologically irresponsible to me. Call me old fashioned, but I almost
>> think rotors should last the life of the car.
>
>In Europe everything is recycled. The design is complementary the other
>safety and performance features of the car and designed to offer maximum
>stopping power for the service life of the brake components.

Recycling is not the issue. What are rotors made of? cast iron. Not
exactly a scarce material but even to recycle this would create a lot
of greenhouse gas. So recycling does not help at all.

>> I also doubt very much that Europeans pay less then us for these
>> items. Do you have figures?
>>
>
>About $30 to $45 a disc for the Astra, I was told by an English tech.

I had a google and did not find much except for these replacement
rotors in Britain.

http://www.passionmotorsport.co.uk/solestrutmenu-vauxhall.htm

153 British pounds for a front pair

Thats $370 Australian dollars for two, more expensive then here.
Aren't DBA rotors about $100 average here ?


Sam

[Noddy]

"Samual" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Thats $370 Australian dollars for two, more expensive then here.
> Aren't DBA rotors about $100 average here ?

Yeah, bit only if you're buying them at a very good price, and for "common"
cars like a Falcon or Commodore.

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[Kieron]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:06:37 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"Samual" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
>> Thats $370 Australian dollars for two, more expensive then here.
>> Aren't DBA rotors about $100 average here ?
>
>Yeah, bit only if you're buying them at a very good price, and for "common"
>cars like a Falcon or Commodore.

You can pick up standard rotors for FalComs for under a hundred
without even trying. $65 would be more like a good price.

Found Astra rotors for UKP48.67 or about $118 on a discount car parts
website and they would be considered a common car.

[Noddy]

"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You can pick up standard rotors for FalComs for under a hundred
> without even trying. $65 would be more like a good price.

Not made in Australia DBA ones you can't :)

> Found Astra rotors for UKP48.67 or about $118 on a discount car parts
> website and they would be considered a common car.

Common in England, sure.

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