Re: Drove a new Magna today.

[Uncle Bully]

"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
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> Mate had one as a company car. Pleasantly surprised. On the inside they
> are ok. Steering wheel feels like the cheapest shit ever. Got a bit of
> guts when you floor it. Handling ok. Nice and quiet and rides well. All
> in all with the 5/10 warranty they are a bit of a bargain. Pity they look
> like shit.

The other thing I can't get over, apart from the uglyness is FWD. My olds
had a Verada and the amount of times I got caught out doing U turns and
ended up doing a 3 point turn.
If Camry/Magna ever want to seriously challenge Falcodores they're going to
have to consider RWD.

[Noddy]

"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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> The other thing I can't get over, apart from the uglyness is FWD. My olds
> had a Verada and the amount of times I got caught out doing U turns and
> ended up doing a 3 point turn.

You're fucking kidding, aren't you?

Do you realise the difference in turning circle between a Magna and a
Falcadore is so small you couldn't get your dick into it?

Well, anyone but you anyway :)

> If Camry/Magna ever want to seriously challenge Falcodores they're going
> to have to consider RWD.

Drive location is secondary to looks.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Toby Ponsenby]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:25:47 GMT, Noddy wrote:

> Do you realise the difference in turning circle between a Magna and a
> Falcadore is so small you couldn't get your dick into it?

Magna FWD fights the attempted turn, so it can't be rushed in these
matters:-)
Falcadore doesn't.
And then there's the insufferably *stupid* STUPID variable ratio on
Commodes, WITH Power Steering, FFS... And the Cabbies still hate 'em.

The absolute only thing on earth it's good at is hanging U turns.
Any other time it's forcing the tyres conquer almost insurmountable
odds to keep the whole shootin' match on the road.

--
Toby
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[Uncle Bully]

"Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
> news:39h72gF5vjdqjU1@individual.net...
>
>> The other thing I can't get over, apart from the uglyness is FWD. My olds
>> had a Verada and the amount of times I got caught out doing U turns and
>> ended up doing a 3 point turn.
>
> You're fucking kidding, aren't you?
>
> Do you realise the difference in turning circle between a Magna and a
> Falcadore is so small you couldn't get your dick into it?
>

Have you driven both or are you quoting some marketing figures?
The car I drove couldn't perfom a U turn in the same space as my VT Commy. I
know this for a fact.

[warrigal]

"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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> > You're fucking kidding, aren't you?
> >
> > Do you realise the difference in turning circle between a Magna and a
> > Falcadore is so small you couldn't get your dick into it?
> >
>
> Have you driven both or are you quoting some marketing figures?
> The car I drove couldn't perfom a U turn in the same space as my VT Commy.
I
> know this for a fact.

You need to do a 3 point turn in a Magna so the clunking of the fucked CV
joints don't deafen you. Owned one for 5 years and what uncle has to say
about the turning circle is spot on.
Front suspension, CV joints - hell - basically the whole front end including
transmission was fucked at 80000km's.

[Noddy]

"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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> Have you driven both or are you quoting some marketing figures?
> The car I drove couldn't perfom a U turn in the same space as my VT Commy.
> I know this for a fact.

I've driven plenty of both, and didn't notice the slightest difference to
tell you the truth.

There might be a couple hundred mm's on paper or so, but it's *fuck all*,
and the chaces are that if you got into trouble with sucj a turn in a Magna,
you'd more than likely do the same with a Falcadore.

Try slowing down a bit next time, and see how you go :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Craig's C900 Site]

"warrigal" <stealth@home.com> writes:

>"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
>news:39ihl4F63h0qpU1@individual.net...

>> > You're fucking kidding, aren't you?
>> >
>> > Do you realise the difference in turning circle between a Magna and a
>> > Falcadore is so small you couldn't get your dick into it?
>>
>> Have you driven both or are you quoting some marketing figures?
>> The car I drove couldn't perfom a U turn in the same space as my VT Commy.
>I
>> know this for a fact.

>You need to do a 3 point turn in a Magna so the clunking of the fucked CV
>joints don't deafen you. Owned one for 5 years and what uncle has to say
>about the turning circle is spot on.
>Front suspension, CV joints - hell - basically the whole front end including
>transmission was fucked at 80000km's.

That's not by design then - it's because the components are shite. My Saab
C900's are front-wheel drive and the CV's usually last upwards of 200000 km
before failure under what most people would consider a 'normal' set of
overall driving conditions during the lifetime of the vehicles.

I had one outer CV-joint replaced recently and the car has just hit the
240000 original km's point. Sure it's over 20 years of life - I'm sure that
if those km's had been accumulated in a shorter timespan (say 5 to 10
years), the CV's probably would have failer much earlier in the odometer
count.

Regards,

Craig.
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[OzOne]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:57:39 +1100, "Uncle Bully"
<wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> scribbled thusly:

>The other thing I can't get over, apart from the uglyness is FWD. My olds
>had a Verada and the amount of times I got caught out doing U turns and
>ended up doing a 3 point turn.
>If Camry/Magna ever want to seriously challenge Falcodores they're going to
>have to consider RWD.
>
Hmmmmm, why?
So you can use the massive HP of a std Falcodore 6 to shorten the
radius?

Have you looked at the turning circles?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[phil growcott]

funny, my AWD verada does not have problems doing u turns, and its so much
fun on a wet day watching the superior RWD Falcondores flailing around
trying to get grip as i blast past them with not one bit of wheelspin.

phil
<OzOne> wrote in message news:nlos51l0bkdgi6i217ck6ou0v6j64387tr@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:57:39 +1100, "Uncle Bully"
> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> scribbled thusly:
>
> >The other thing I can't get over, apart from the uglyness is FWD. My olds
> >had a Verada and the amount of times I got caught out doing U turns and
> >ended up doing a 3 point turn.
> >If Camry/Magna ever want to seriously challenge Falcodores they're going
to
> >have to consider RWD.
> >
> Hmmmmm, why?
> So you can use the massive HP of a std Falcodore 6 to shorten the
> radius?
>
> Have you looked at the turning circles?
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Adam F]

Yeah, also what do you call a RWD camry? An avalon...and we all know how
well they sold.


//Adam F


"phil growcott" <dpg@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> funny, my AWD verada does not have problems doing u turns, and its so much
> fun on a wet day watching the superior RWD Falcondores flailing around
> trying to get grip as i blast past them with not one bit of wheelspin.
>
> phil
> <OzOne> wrote in message
> news:nlos51l0bkdgi6i217ck6ou0v6j64387tr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:57:39 +1100, "Uncle Bully"
>> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> scribbled thusly:
>>
>> >The other thing I can't get over, apart from the uglyness is FWD. My
>> >olds
>> >had a Verada and the amount of times I got caught out doing U turns and
>> >ended up doing a 3 point turn.
>> >If Camry/Magna ever want to seriously challenge Falcodores they're going
> to
>> >have to consider RWD.
>> >
>

[Greg Stewart]

"Adam F" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah, also what do you call a RWD camry? An avalon...and we all know how
> well they sold.
>
>
> //Adam F
>
>

Maybe I missed the punchline here.. but since when has the avalon been RWD??