Re: Cheapo injector cleaning

[Toby Ponsenby]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:12:27 +1000, atec wrote:

> http://www.dustyland.net/broncos/tech/inj-clean.html
> If I can use this method as I have today on 18 injectors with great
> success then maybe you can as well

Been developing just such an idea. Not done yet, but soon. Have 24
Injectors to clean hereabouts. Not all at once though - that'd bugger
up the leisure, shopping and other consumer behaviours a tad.
Same as the link with an added wheeze of using an old alloy saucepan
and a hammer-drill with a domed drill bit pushed onto the side of the
thing for a while. That's the 'ultra-sonics' required.

Wondering if molasses and water will work as a solvent for injectors
though. That would be cheap is it worked.

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Toby
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[atec]

Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:12:27 +1000, atec wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.dustyland.net/broncos/tech/inj-clean.html
>> If I can use this method as I have today on 18 injectors with great
>>success then maybe you can as well
>
>
> Been developing just such an idea. Not done yet, but soon. Have 24
> Injectors to clean hereabouts. Not all at once though - that'd bugger
> up the leisure, shopping and other consumer behaviours a tad.
> Same as the link with an added wheeze of using an old alloy saucepan
> and a hammer-drill with a domed drill bit pushed onto the side of the
> thing for a while. That's the 'ultra-sonics' required.
>
> Wondering if molasses and water will work as a solvent for injectors
> though. That would be cheap is it worked.
>
I built a circuit with an NE555 and switching transistor to "drive " the
injector and shake the crap loose some time ago , didn't use it this
time and the injectors are excellent , added new o rings and flushed
the rails out with new after market filters , both cars running well.
DO you have the url of the impact drill thingy ?
might be fun
molasis wont do I'm afraid as it must be a petroleum based solvent

[Toby Ponsenby]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:02:23 +0800, Bill Clinton wrote:

>> Looking for a diesel filter for the Kia. Faark - Z539 is up near 100
>> Bucks - needless to say, no-one bothers to stock them. When I bought
>> the truck, top dollar for the filter was 30. As soon as their dealers
>> don 't have any more to sell, whoopee - Kia jacks the price
>> murderously. And so does Ryco, natch.
>> Fuckemall - Monday I go buy complete after-market jobbie with cheap
>> cartridge prices.
>
>
> Buy a box full from O/S with shipping you could get 10-20 of them for the
> price of ONE here.

Been working on just that - damm hard to find though:-)


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Toby
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[atec]

Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:02:21 +1000, Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:27:40 +1000, atec wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:19:40 +1000, atec wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DO you have the url of the impact drill thingy ?
>>>>> might be fun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I made up the idea.
>>>>Thinking a piece of rubber mat, and push the saucepan/container about
>>>>with the drill. I've used the same sort of trick to get a decent
>>>>finish on concrete formwork.
>>>>Has to be a cheapie drill - what makes them cheap makes them better
>>>>for this task, because they firstly require little force to activate
>>>>the vibes, and secondly their high speeds are 'high', ergo a better
>>>>frequency for belting waves through the solvent goop.
>>>>
>>>>I've just ordered some injector O ring kits.
>>>
>>> I have to buy kits in the morning.. how much are you paying for how
>>>many cylinders..
>>>The price differential will be fun here as they are the same injectors
>>>but one a common car brand the other not so..
>>
>>Toyotas 22R-E - from Repco, circa 12 bucks plus whatever they figure
>>is a fair thing for freight - no fighting about discount on that:-)
>>(A buck an O ring and one for the plastic bag. Amazing)
>>
>>
>>>>Looking for a diesel filter for the Kia. Faark - Z539 is up near 100
>>>>Bucks - needless to say, no-one bothers to stock them. When I bought
>>>>the truck, top dollar for the filter was 30. As soon as their dealers
>>>>don 't have any more to sell, whoopee - Kia jacks the price
>>>>murderously. And so does Ryco, natch.
>>>>Fuckemall - Monday I go buy complete after-market jobbie with cheap
>>>>cartridge prices.
>>>
>>> WHat are you considering purchase of , Im thinking I might add another
>>>additional filter in the high pressure side on one of the cars... tanks
>>>unhappily dirty ..
>>
>>Trouble is the Kia has a wee pump on the filter assy. Racor sell those
>>sorts of tings, and i can source those for a pretty good price. But
>>the filter appears too small, and the cartridges retail at close to
>>$60, which is daylight robbery.
>>CAV 296 filters seem to be fine as a filter, but getting a filter
>>holder with a primer that takes those filters is gonna cost a bomb, I
>>suspect.
>>I'm going to try to find a cheap filter to suit - an M20x1.5 thread is
>>the key to the problem, it seems. Can't be too hard, we'll see.
>>
>>
>
> Follow-up.
>
> I checked the mud-wasp situation, and sure enough one of the super
> industrious little bastards had mostly blocked the breather.
> Anyhow, how to stop that?
> The Kia system involves a little device containing two one-way valves.
> True.
> The system then relies on the flexibility of the hose this thing lives
> in, to allow limited flow around the valve in either direction.
>
> So, the hose had managed to go almost solid due age, and therefore the
> thing wasn't working properly.
> This starved the tiny diesel engine of fuel enough to cause me to
> notice.
> One of those interesting engineering solutions let down by less than
> perfect materials.
> Come to think of it, it wasn't much of a solution at all, since the
> designer forgot that diesel fuel returned to the tank is HOT, which
> makes the tank HOT (add in the muffler nearby as a special bonus) and
> that eventually effects the hose.
>
> These trucks are sold in Asia and Africa where they are flogged
> mercilessly. I reckon the fix there would be to simply throw the whole
> hose, valve and all, off to the side of the road. That'd work:-)
>
> Anyhow, I just shortened the hose and repositioned the valve combo
> into a still pliable part the hose. Added a simple air filter suitably
> modified to the end to stop the farken mud-wasps as insurance.
> Be alright for a few years at that.
>
>
> As for the filters?
> Repco's (And Ryco's) Z539 was on 108 bucks retail, and they'd do me a
> favour and sell me one for about 60. Yeah, right.
> They're about $15 at Bne Air Filter Services.
> Since the truck came with a filter that didn't have a water trap and
> warning light switch, I went that way and paid under 9 bucks each for
> a couple of filters. One day I'll get around to fitting a Landcruiser
> 60 Series water trap and drain.
>
> Bloody incredible mark-up on this stuff for some.
> Reasonable mark-up for others.
>
> Me buy from the others.
>
I went shopping and found kits for 6 injectors at $30.00 , damn things
work like new:_)
now all I need is a new dizzy cap to fit both cars.
I did however fit a commode in line high preasure fuel filter just in
case. at $10 it has to be value ( metal can thingy)