Stealing Cars?

[Uncle Bully]

I was just wondering if newish technology such as deadlocks, key
transponders, data dots, satellite tracking etc has actually made a
difference to people stealing cars?
When I was younger guys used to jam in a screwdriver or smash the sterring
column then take off with your pride and joy. Since that shouldn't work in a
modern car, how are all the cars being stolen? You would expect a massive
decrease in numbers with these new measures, but there hasn't really been
much of an impact: http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2004/fig033.html

What's the story? Are people just stealing older cars now, or are there new
methods?

[Noddy]

"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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>I was just wondering if newish technology such as deadlocks, key
>transponders, data dots, satellite tracking etc has actually made a
>difference to people stealing cars?

It's had an impact on joyriders, but it makes little difference to
professionals.

> What's the story? Are people just stealing older cars now, or are there
> new methods?

There are newer methods.

A lot of cars with "smart" immobilisers can be bypassed with "smart" dongles
that plug into the maintenance port under the dash.

It's kind of a bit like software copy protection: No matter how many years
some university educated expert puts into developing the world's best
security program, some 14 year old geeky kid will crack it in around 10
minutes :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Scotty]

As they do in Sudney, theives put a piece of paper on yoru back window, you
see it when you jump in and about to drive off. You get out while engine
running and they bash you and take your car with keys, also now they have
your house keys and most propably some form of where you live to take the
rest of your gear.


"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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>I was just wondering if newish technology such as deadlocks, key
>transponders, data dots, satellite tracking etc has actually made a
>difference to people stealing cars?
> When I was younger guys used to jam in a screwdriver or smash the sterring
> column then take off with your pride and joy. Since that shouldn't work in
> a modern car, how are all the cars being stolen? You would expect a
> massive decrease in numbers with these new measures, but there hasn't
> really been much of an impact:
> http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2004/fig033.html
>
> What's the story? Are people just stealing older cars now, or are there
> new methods?
>
>
>
>

[Dr.Shifty]

Uncle Bully wrote:

> I was just wondering if newish technology such as deadlocks, key
> transponders, data dots, satellite tracking etc has actually made a
> difference to people stealing cars?
> When I was younger guys used to jam in a screwdriver or smash the sterring
> column then take off with your pride and joy. Since that shouldn't work in a
> modern car, how are all the cars being stolen? You would expect a massive
> decrease in numbers with these new measures, but there hasn't really been
> much of an impact: http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2004/fig033.html
>
> What's the story? Are people just stealing older cars now, or are there new
> methods?

Get a car carrying truck or trailer, pull up in front of high tech car in car
park, pull car up ramps (take little notice of complaining rear wheels - some
oil will take care of that), drive away to workshop, pull car apart.

Kim

[Uncle Bully]

>
> According to the site, the figures for November 2003 (obviously the last
> collected) were the lowest ever recorded.
>
> Car theft dropped 30% - from 13,000 per month to 8,000 per month - in the
> 2 and half years from mid 2001 to end 2003.

Sure, but that's still 100, 000 cars every year. You would expect with the
types of technology available it would be near zero. With a nationwide VIN
database, data dots and proper immobilisers I can't see how it is worth it
to the crims to steal cars. (Ram raiders and joy riders excepted).
Another thing to note is that my insurance premiums haven't come down 30% in
that same time...

[Charlie]

Uncle Bully wrote:

> Sure, but that's still 100, 000 cars every year. You would expect with the
> types of technology available it would be near zero. With a nationwide VIN
> database, data dots and proper immobilisers I can't see how it is worth it
> to the crims to steal cars. (Ram raiders and joy riders excepted).
> Another thing to note is that my insurance premiums haven't come down 30% in
> that same time...

open your eyes next time you're on the roads, and realise not everyone
drives a new car...

Charlie

[GJS]

"atec" <"atec77(atec)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lord-Data wrote:
>> I'd say the majority of cars stolen these days are older cars .. when i
>> owned by VL, even fitted with an imobiliser, i was a little worried
>> about where I parked it .. Now i've got a newer car, it doesnt bother me
>> ..
>>
>> I'm sure serious professionals can steal any car if they try hard enough,
>> but why would a professional be interested in most cars? Theyd be after
>> the absolute top of the line..
>>
>> The only method of car stealing thats VERY hard to beat is the old "break
>> into house and steal keys" trick .. all the transponders and codes in the
>> world won't do you any good then :)
>>
> Its very common for a flat top to arrive and they drag the car on and
> leave . no one ever says a thing. the siren is easy to stop most times as
> Ive seen a repo company do it here in Brisbane several times without
> comment
> Sand or powdered glass is used to allow " slide "

Just make sure you park in covered car parks with low clearance ;-)

[Fraser Johnston]

"Scotty" <noricer@comeagain.com> wrote in message
news:42411385$0$12026$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> As they do in Sudney, theives put a piece of paper on yoru back window,
> you see it when you jump in and about to drive off. You get out while
> engine running and they bash you and take your car with keys, also now
> they have your house keys and most propably some form of where you live to
> take the rest of your gear.

Urban myth. Check www.snopes.com

Fraser

[Kieron]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:41:09 +0800, "Fraser Johnston"
<fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote:

>
>"Scotty" <noricer@comeagain.com> wrote in message
>news:42411385$0$12026$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> As they do in Sudney, theives put a piece of paper on yoru back window,
>> you see it when you jump in and about to drive off. You get out while
>> engine running and they bash you and take your car with keys, also now
>> they have your house keys and most propably some form of where you live to
>> take the rest of your gear.
>
>Urban myth. Check www.snopes.com
>

I'd like to see that on Mythbusters, they could get Buster the dummy
in a remote control BMW to drive into say Compton and get carjacked