New model Falcon

[jackbadger]

I wasn't going to bother posting this, as I'm hopeless at describing things
in a way that allows someone to visualise what I'm talking about.
In November 2004 I managed to scam my way into clinic put on by "a car
company" at Luna Park here in Sydney (i had to say I drove a VX
Calais!!!).
I was handed a clipboard and asked to fill in the questionaire concerning
the 3 cars they had on display - a VZ Executive, BA XT, and car 'X'.
All cars were silver, had black contact over the windows and a generic
symbol covering the badges, so as to match car 'X', which was obviously a
mock-up with no real glass or interior.
I'm 99% certain that I was looking at the new Falcon. As I said my
descriptions are are going to lack flair but I assure you they're
acurate.
The first thing you notice is the convex swage line / crease that starts
at the top of the front wheel-arch, sweeps upwards as it goes towards the
rear of the body, and meets up with the trailing edge of the boot lid to
sweep around the rear. This seems to give the car quite a "wedge"-like
profile compared to the others there, both of which seemed to 'droop' at
the nose & tail when seen in profile. It looked as though, unless the rear
seat is mounted quite high, the doors will feel very high - depending on
your point of view, you'll feel either well protected or claustrophobic!
The C pillar incorporates a very pronounced 'hoffmeister kick', as seen on
every non-convertible BMW C pillar for as long as I can remember.
Finally, the headlights look to be exact copies of the latest Subaru
Liberty (the differing grill & bumper give it a diferent look/identity,
though), and the rear had a very Audi-like appearence; nothing specific,
just a similarity to the generic Audi look.
Later, we were quized by the designers for our thoughts on pictures of
various 'sports' and 'luxury' models. The former had the trademark
quad-headlight design, the latter with lashings of extra chrome! By now
most of us were refering to the 'sport' model as the XR8, designer
included.
In general, the car looked quite good without being a radical departure.
Having said that though, it didn't have the slightly menacing (maybe
that's too strong a word)look of the BA (it's hard to be objective when
you see thousands of them every day!). Also, out of the dozens of photos
we saw, only the details were different, so I'm fairly certain that the
hard points of the model we were looking at were final.

Exciting huh?

Anyone still awake?



jackbadger
56 sheep

[SR71@NOSPAM@hotmail.com]

What you saw was a P41 05'/06' "Magna".

The mail is it will also be Wheels COTY, not that counts for much...

Regards

G/B

[jackbadger]

......ok.....then I can tell you the next Magna is RWD and will have the
same alloy wheels as a BA Fairmont.......and the sport model will be
called the XR8.

[Dan---]

"SR71@NOSPAM@hotmail.com" <auscars@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What you saw was a P41 05'/06' "Magna".
>
> The mail is it will also be Wheels COTY, not that counts for much...

Yeah great Coty for the boring arsed Mitsubishi just to make Pesty's RSI to
get worse and his eye sight to fail even more.:-p

--
Regards Dan

[Cranky]

"Dan---" <nospam@thanxs.com> wrote in
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> "SR71@NOSPAM@hotmail.com" <auscars@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1112758000.082489.221650@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> What you saw was a P41 05'/06' "Magna".
>>
>> The mail is it will also be Wheels COTY, not that counts for much...
>
> Yeah great Coty for the boring arsed Mitsubishi just to make Pesty's
> RSI to get worse and his eye sight to fail even more.:-p
>

LOL,

Ron

[David Z]

"jackbadger" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> .....ok.....then I can tell you the next Magna is RWD and will have the
> same alloy wheels as a BA Fairmont.......and the sport model will be
> called the XR8.

Probably did this to throw off some people. There is no way it could have
been the new Falcon as it is not due until 2007.

[Brenden Will]

Ford is more than a few years ahead in developing new cars. They even tell
you that during their tours of the Broadmeadows plant.

Brenden
"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "jackbadger" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8c1033bbe76cc5dbac34a29c42756144@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> .....ok.....then I can tell you the next Magna is RWD and will have the
>> same alloy wheels as a BA Fairmont.......and the sport model will be
>> called the XR8.
>
> Probably did this to throw off some people. There is no way it could have
> been the new Falcon as it is not due until 2007.
>

[jackbadger]

2007!!! I doubt that.
I know it was RWD as there was no way you could do a FWD with the small
overhang this car had.
There were other little clues as to the cars true identity, only
noticeable to true trainspotters like myself.
That leaves a RWD large car being developed in Australia...........choose
Falcon or Commodore.

[Vinnie]

does any one have a link to a pic?
"SR71@NOSPAM@hotmail.com" <auscars@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What you saw was a P41 05'/06' "Magna".
>
> The mail is it will also be Wheels COTY, not that counts for much...
>
> Regards
>
> G/B
>

[Bill]

jackbadger wrote:
> 2007!!! I doubt that.
> I know it was RWD as there was no way you could do a FWD with the
small
> overhang this car had.
> There were other little clues as to the cars true identity, only
> noticeable to true trainspotters like myself.
> That leaves a RWD large car being developed in
Australia...........choose
> Falcon or Commodore.

Could it have been a Toyota? The time frame is about right for the new
model.

Cheers
Bill

[Spankalogical Protocol]

"Vinnie" <destef1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> does any one have a link to a pic?


http://tinyurl.com/3ztr2

[Vincent]

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "jackbadger" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8c1033bbe76cc5dbac34a29c42756144@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> .....ok.....then I can tell you the next Magna is RWD and will have the
>> same alloy wheels as a BA Fairmont.......and the sport model will be
>> called the XR8.
>
> Probably did this to throw off some people. There is no way it could have
> been the new Falcon as it is not due until 2007.

Looking at car release dates, 2007 is not that far away, we are ¼ way
through 2005 and by the time all testing is done, it will be well into 2006
before they make up their minds whether they release it or not, then by the
time they finally get to release the new model, it is November or December
2006 and therefore close to 2007 to be called a 2007 model, making buyers
believe they are buying a newer model than what they actually are.
It could also be a ploy by Ford to put the opposition off as to when Ford
will actually release a new model and if they say 2007, then GMH will relax
a bit in releasing their new model, then all hell breaks loose when they
both realise that they are going to release new models within a month of
each other.

[Cranky]

"jackbadger" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6ae240f0770d115e1aad11a3c7e7a177@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:

> The first thing you notice is the convex swage line / crease that
> starts at the top of the front wheel-arch, sweeps upwards as it goes
> towards the rear of the body, and meets up with the trailing edge of
> the boot lid to sweep around the rear. This seems to give the car
> quite a "wedge"-like profile compared to the others there, both of
> which seemed to 'droop' at the nose & tail when seen in profile.

Jackbadger, did it look like this ?

http://drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=9093&vf=2&bg=1&pp=0

Regards,
Ron

[Cranky]

Cranky <NO_idiots.com> wrote in news:Xns9631570B9149Dnofuse@129.250.170.81:

> "jackbadger" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:6ae240f0770d115e1aad11a3c7e7a177@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:
>
>> The first thing you notice is the convex swage line / crease that
>> starts at the top of the front wheel-arch, sweeps upwards as it goes
>> towards the rear of the body, and meets up with the trailing edge of
>> the boot lid to sweep around the rear. This seems to give the car
>> quite a "wedge"-like profile compared to the others there, both of
>> which seemed to 'droop' at the nose & tail when seen in profile.
>
> Jackbadger, did it look like this ?
>
> http://drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=9093&vf=2&bg=1&pp=0
>
> Regards,
> Ron
>

More photos here:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/autoshow/upandcoming/fusion/

[jackbadger]

I remember this article appeared not long after the clinic; there is a
similarity in the glasshouse area, but nothing else. The headlights on
this photo, however, look a lot better than the car I saw, and things like
headlights/bumpers/grilles/tail lights can be easily altered.
I must stress that there was no doubt as to the fact that this car was
rear wheel drive, and judging by the very aggressive body-kits and quad
headlights etc fitted to the sports model, we're talking BIG power. I
doubt very much there were any tricks played to throw us off the scent; I
said I scammed my way in, and everyone else there looked to be in their
50's (I'm 33), and all were definately non-car people!
Unless Toyota is developing a RWD V8 engined monster completely out of the
blue, that only leaves Ford & Holden (I've seen the new Magna/Galant and it
was definately not that). Ford and Holden have quite separate and well
defined identities, and my educated guess is I was looking at the Falcon.
All I need now is for Ford to do a complete about face and show a new
Falcon inspired by the Taurus (which incidently, was styled by an
Australian)!!!

[Cranky]

"jackbadger" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bff436ef4f2eececec75ce69752829df@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:

> I remember this article appeared not long after the clinic; there is a
> similarity in the glasshouse area, but nothing else. The headlights on
> this photo, however, look a lot better than the car I saw, and things
> like headlights/bumpers/grilles/tail lights can be easily altered.
> I must stress that there was no doubt as to the fact that this car was
> rear wheel drive, and judging by the very aggressive body-kits and
> quad headlights etc fitted to the sports model, we're talking BIG
> power. I doubt very much there were any tricks played to throw us off
> the scent; I said I scammed my way in, and everyone else there looked
> to be in their 50's (I'm 33), and all were definately non-car people!
> Unless Toyota is developing a RWD V8 engined monster completely out of
> the blue, that only leaves Ford & Holden (I've seen the new
> Magna/Galant and it was definately not that). Ford and Holden have
> quite separate and well defined identities, and my educated guess is I
> was looking at the Falcon. All I need now is for Ford to do a complete
> about face and show a new Falcon inspired by the Taurus (which
> incidently, was styled by an Australian)!!!

Really??? That horrid fucking oval looking thing, that was a big flop
here?

Regards,
Ron

[Dan---]

"Cranky" <NO_idiots.com> wrote in message
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>
> Really??? That horrid fucking oval looking thing, that was a big flop
> here?

The designer chief for the turdarse was Jack Telnack and he was from
Oklahoma.
Pathetic cars really piss weak gearboxes and bloody ugly as well.
--
Regards Dan

[jackbadger]

Dear spankwhatsit,
I'm trying very hard to sneak in the odd thread to this group while at
work (a fairly quiet office). I'm afraid that the next time i piss myself
laughing so hard I'll be sacked!

jackbadger
56 stitches

[gunslinger]

Cranky wrote:
> "jackbadger" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:6ae240f0770d115e1aad11a3c7e7a177@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:
>
>
>>The first thing you notice is the convex swage line / crease that
>>starts at the top of the front wheel-arch, sweeps upwards as it goes
>>towards the rear of the body, and meets up with the trailing edge of
>>the boot lid to sweep around the rear. This seems to give the car
>>quite a "wedge"-like profile compared to the others there, both of
>>which seemed to 'droop' at the nose & tail when seen in profile.
>
>
> Jackbadger, did it look like this ?
>
> http://drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=9093&vf=2&bg=1&pp=0
>

Looks similar to the current (new) Vectra.
Not a bad look IMHO.
But then again I do like my AU2 :-P

JB

[Cranky]

gunslinger <jbngspam@yahoo.com> wrote in news:42548e1f_4@x-privat.org:


> Looks similar to the current (new) Vectra.
> Not a bad look IMHO.
> But then again I do like my AU2 :-P
>
> JB

The AU grows on you :-)
We like our AUIII SR.

Regards,
Ron