New chrysler 300C for Downunder.

[Kieron]

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:38:47 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:


>> I've heard a different figure for outright private purchases since the
>> BA.
>> But your not looking at the whole story. You don't take into
>> consideration personally chosen company cars and salary packaged
>> sales which are typically bought by a fleet leasing company and
>> Novated Leased. The latter is a big growth area and helps fuel the
>> sales of cars like XR's/SS FPV/HSV as well as SUV's.
>
>Perhaps. My figures are based on 2005 sales though (up till Feb). Here
>they are if you're interested:
>
>Falcon (YTD 2005)
>Private - 1425
>Govt fleet - 2624
>Non-govt fleet - 4115
>
>Thats 17% private
>
>Commodore is a little higher at about 23% private. Magna (excluding Verada)
>is 25%, while Camry is 60%. Kind of shows you which one of the 4 is
>*really* the most popular, doesn't it?

As I said, these figures don't take into account packaged vehicles. My
XR6 for instance is Novated Leased and was purchased by the fleet co
so will be under non-govt fleet. Its effectively a private choice
purchase though.
I dare say many of those govt. fleet cars are salary packaged chosen
by the employee too.

Whats the Camry/Magna/Commodore YTD break down David?

[Kieron]

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:38:47 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:


>> I've heard a different figure for outright private purchases since the
>> BA.
>> But your not looking at the whole story. You don't take into
>> consideration personally chosen company cars and salary packaged
>> sales which are typically bought by a fleet leasing company and
>> Novated Leased. The latter is a big growth area and helps fuel the
>> sales of cars like XR's/SS FPV/HSV as well as SUV's.
>
>Perhaps. My figures are based on 2005 sales though (up till Feb). Here
>they are if you're interested:
>
>Falcon (YTD 2005)
>Private - 1425
>Govt fleet - 2624
>Non-govt fleet - 4115
>
>Thats 17% private
>
>Commodore is a little higher at about 23% private. Magna (excluding Verada)
>is 25%, while Camry is 60%. Kind of shows you which one of the 4 is
>*really* the most popular, doesn't it?

As I said, these figures don't take into account packaged vehicles. My
XR6 for instance is Novated Leased and was purchased by the fleet co
so will be under non-govt fleet. Its effectively a private choice
purchase though.
I dare say many of those govt. fleet cars are salary packaged chosen
by the employee too.

Whats the Camry/Magna/Commodore YTD break down David?

[David Z]

"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4259d21a.1615562@203.50.2.233...
> On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:38:47 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> I've heard a different figure for outright private purchases since the
>>> BA.
>>> But your not looking at the whole story. You don't take into
>>> consideration personally chosen company cars and salary packaged
>>> sales which are typically bought by a fleet leasing company and
>>> Novated Leased. The latter is a big growth area and helps fuel the
>>> sales of cars like XR's/SS FPV/HSV as well as SUV's.
>>
>>Perhaps. My figures are based on 2005 sales though (up till Feb). Here
>>they are if you're interested:
>>
>>Falcon (YTD 2005)
>>Private - 1425
>>Govt fleet - 2624
>>Non-govt fleet - 4115
>>
>>Thats 17% private
>>
>>Commodore is a little higher at about 23% private. Magna (excluding
>>Verada)
>>is 25%, while Camry is 60%. Kind of shows you which one of the 4 is
>>*really* the most popular, doesn't it?
>
> As I said, these figures don't take into account packaged vehicles. My
> XR6 for instance is Novated Leased and was purchased by the fleet co
> so will be under non-govt fleet. Its effectively a private choice
> purchase though.
> I dare say many of those govt. fleet cars are salary packaged chosen
> by the employee too.
>
> Whats the Camry/Magna/Commodore YTD break down David?

This is only the first 2 months of 2005, up till Feb.
Camry/Magna/Commodore:

Private - 3541/603/2377
Govt fleet - 830/291/2910
Non-govt fleet - 1545/1516/4828

[David Z]

"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4259d21a.1615562@203.50.2.233...
> On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:38:47 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> I've heard a different figure for outright private purchases since the
>>> BA.
>>> But your not looking at the whole story. You don't take into
>>> consideration personally chosen company cars and salary packaged
>>> sales which are typically bought by a fleet leasing company and
>>> Novated Leased. The latter is a big growth area and helps fuel the
>>> sales of cars like XR's/SS FPV/HSV as well as SUV's.
>>
>>Perhaps. My figures are based on 2005 sales though (up till Feb). Here
>>they are if you're interested:
>>
>>Falcon (YTD 2005)
>>Private - 1425
>>Govt fleet - 2624
>>Non-govt fleet - 4115
>>
>>Thats 17% private
>>
>>Commodore is a little higher at about 23% private. Magna (excluding
>>Verada)
>>is 25%, while Camry is 60%. Kind of shows you which one of the 4 is
>>*really* the most popular, doesn't it?
>
> As I said, these figures don't take into account packaged vehicles. My
> XR6 for instance is Novated Leased and was purchased by the fleet co
> so will be under non-govt fleet. Its effectively a private choice
> purchase though.
> I dare say many of those govt. fleet cars are salary packaged chosen
> by the employee too.
>
> Whats the Camry/Magna/Commodore YTD break down David?

This is only the first 2 months of 2005, up till Feb.
Camry/Magna/Commodore:

Private - 3541/603/2377
Govt fleet - 830/291/2910
Non-govt fleet - 1545/1516/4828

[Kieron]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:10:15 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:


>>>Falcon (YTD 2005)
>>>Private - 1425
>>>Govt fleet - 2624
>>>Non-govt fleet - 4115
>>>
>>>Thats 17% private
>>>
>>>Commodore is a little higher at about 23% private. Magna (excluding
>>>Verada)
>>>is 25%, while Camry is 60%. Kind of shows you which one of the 4 is
>>>*really* the most popular, doesn't it?
>>
>> As I said, these figures don't take into account packaged vehicles. My
>> XR6 for instance is Novated Leased and was purchased by the fleet co
>> so will be under non-govt fleet. Its effectively a private choice
>> purchase though.
>> I dare say many of those govt. fleet cars are salary packaged chosen
>> by the employee too.
>>
>> Whats the Camry/Magna/Commodore YTD break down David?
>
>This is only the first 2 months of 2005, up till Feb.
>Camry/Magna/Commodore:
>
>Private - 3541/603/2377
>Govt fleet - 830/291/2910
>Non-govt fleet - 1545/1516/4828

Interesting figures, especially the govt. Magna. The govt. helped
Magna a while back iirc, but still don't buy there products.

[David Z]

"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:425b2e87.4389531@203.50.2.233...
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:10:15 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Falcon (YTD 2005)
>>>>Private - 1425
>>>>Govt fleet - 2624
>>>>Non-govt fleet - 4115
>>>>
>>>>Thats 17% private
>>>>
>>>>Commodore is a little higher at about 23% private. Magna (excluding
>>>>Verada)
>>>>is 25%, while Camry is 60%. Kind of shows you which one of the 4 is
>>>>*really* the most popular, doesn't it?
>>>
>>> As I said, these figures don't take into account packaged vehicles. My
>>> XR6 for instance is Novated Leased and was purchased by the fleet co
>>> so will be under non-govt fleet. Its effectively a private choice
>>> purchase though.
>>> I dare say many of those govt. fleet cars are salary packaged chosen
>>> by the employee too.
>>>
>>> Whats the Camry/Magna/Commodore YTD break down David?
>>
>>This is only the first 2 months of 2005, up till Feb.
>>Camry/Magna/Commodore:
>>
>>Private - 3541/603/2377
>>Govt fleet - 830/291/2910
>>Non-govt fleet - 1545/1516/4828
>
> Interesting figures, especially the govt. Magna. The govt. helped
> Magna a while back iirc, but still don't buy there products.

The Falcon isn't the passenger (i.e. non-commercial) vehicle with the lowest
percentage of private buyers though. That honor would probably go to the
Tarago, with only 13% of sales going to private buyers! Not surprising
considering its the biggest joke of a people mover , they all go to the
rental fleets.

[Kieron]

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:51:03 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:


>The Falcon isn't the passenger (i.e. non-commercial) vehicle with the lowest
>percentage of private buyers though. That honor would probably go to the
>Tarago, with only 13% of sales going to private buyers! Not surprising
>considering its the biggest joke of a people mover , they all go to the
>rental fleets.

LOL, i'm driving a rental Tarago at the moment, the novelty of the
high driving position wore off after about 3 minutes, i'll be glad to
give it back :)