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[cd]

My grampa has one of them musso 4wd's with the merc 5 cylinder Diesel engine
and driveline. Well he blew it up the other day, $25,000 for a new engine.
Fuckin piece of shit either way. Con rids bent pistons need replacing, head
is wrecked. This happened pretty suddenly driving on the highway. Actually
seems like the cheap chinese/korean made body was built to last longer then
the mercedes diesel engine.

Anyway i offered my Grampa who has more money then sense to just get a
toyota and be done with it.

"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com> wrote in message
> news:8akae.305$bc7.10066@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=9606&vf=2&bg=19&pp=0
> >
> >
> > A 2 whole stars.
>
> If they devalue like the Musso they'll be good buying in about 3 years.
>
> Fraser
>
>

[cd]

Any company that can create a reliable 2 litre NA engine that puts out 250HP
in stock form gets my respect. Which is what honda have done.

Toyota get more respect for creating a 1.6litre engine that is capable of
240HP in NA form!!

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Nothing recently (last quarter century) though.
>
> "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote in message
> news:426aeb1c@news.comindico.com.au...
> >
> > "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:5Brae.21249$5F3.15235@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> >> Geez, don't you think Honda is a little more broad? They make a range
of
> >> cars, I was only referring to two specific models. Also, Honda have
> >> never produced a lemon
> >
> > Oh, really? :)
> >
> > You're not old enough to remember things like the "Life", "360Z" or the
> > "Scurry?" (or whatever the fuck it was called)....
> >
> > In fact, everything Honda made before the first Civic in 1975 was a heap
> > of shit.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Noddy.
> >
>
>

[Noddy]

"sheik yerbouti" <delbo21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> and their 4WS systems!

There was nothing actually wrong with Honda's "mechanical" approach, and
theirs were a *lot* more reliable than Mazda's Electric/hydraulic" system.

4ws was simply a gimmick that didn't catch on....

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Noddy]

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Nothing recently (last quarter century) though.

Depends on what you consider a "lemon".

They haven't made anything that was mechanically bad, but they've made some
fucking terrible designs. The "Concerto" springs to mind here (what the fuck
was that all about anyway?), and the last few Preludes have been as ugly as
sin.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[David Z]

"Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:SlFae.21804$5F3.4205@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> Nothing recently (last quarter century) though.
>
> Depends on what you consider a "lemon".
>
> They haven't made anything that was mechanically bad, but they've made
> some fucking terrible designs. The "Concerto" springs to mind here (what
> the fuck was that all about anyway?), and the last few Preludes have been
> as ugly as sin.

I guess it wouldn't be a good idea to bring up the HR-V then...

[hippo]

Marco wrote:

>Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=9606&vf=2&bg=19&pp=0

>You've gotta admire the cheek of the people selling it.

>Costs more than a Statesman, is less powerful, looks crook, and from a
>brand
>few have heard of. I mean, that takes some guts.

So how brave would that make the Hummer importer?

[D Walford]

sheik yerbouti wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:41:01 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:5Brae.21249$5F3.15235@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> >> Geez, don't you think Honda is a little more broad? They make a range of
> >> cars, I was only referring to two specific models. Also, Honda have never
> >> produced a lemon
> >
> >Oh, really? :)
> >
> >You're not old enough to remember things like the "Life", "360Z" or the
> >"Scurry?" (or whatever the fuck it was called)....
> >
> >In fact, everything Honda made before the first Civic in 1975 was a heap of
> >shit.
>
> and their 4WS systems!
>
What's wrong with them?
The one on my sons 89 Prelude is trouble free and the 4WS makes the
thing a dream to park.



Daryl

[sheik yerbouti]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:11:17 +1000, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au>
wrote:

>>
>> and their 4WS systems!
>>
>What's wrong with them?
>The one on my sons 89 Prelude is trouble free and the 4WS makes the
>thing a dream to park.

they're a bit on the unnecessary side.

honda were too keen back then to prove their engineering skills and
forgot to deliver value in their cars to customers - i.e. stuff they
need.

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[D Walford]

sheik yerbouti wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:11:17 +1000, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> and their 4WS systems!
> >>
> >What's wrong with them?
> >The one on my sons 89 Prelude is trouble free and the 4WS makes the
> >thing a dream to park.
>
> they're a bit on the unnecessary side.

True, but it does what its supposed to do and has never given trouble.
Takes a bit of getting used to, first time I drive it I almost ended up
on top of a roundabout, the car turned into the corner a lot more than I
expected.
>
> honda were too keen back then to prove their engineering skills and
> forgot to deliver value in their cars to customers - i.e. stuff they
> need.

The 2 Preludes my son has owned are very well equipped, I can't think of
anything they need that they haven't already got.



Daryl

[feral]

D Walford wrote:

> The 2 Preludes my son has owned are very well equipped, I can't think of
> anything they need that they haven't already got.

Paris Hilton?:-)

--

Take care,
Feral

[atec]

D Walford wrote:
> sheik yerbouti wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:11:17 +1000, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>and their 4WS systems!
>>>>
>>>
>>>What's wrong with them?
>>>The one on my sons 89 Prelude is trouble free and the 4WS makes the
>>>thing a dream to park.
>>
>>they're a bit on the unnecessary side.
>
>
> True, but it does what its supposed to do and has never given trouble.
> Takes a bit of getting used to, first time I drive it I almost ended up
> on top of a roundabout, the car turned into the corner a lot more than I
> expected.
>
>>honda were too keen back then to prove their engineering skills and
>>forgot to deliver value in their cars to customers - i.e. stuff they
>>need.
>
>
> The 2 Preludes my son has owned are very well equipped, I can't think of
> anything they need that they haven't already got.
>
>
>
> Daryl
SO your proud of the way your sons are equipped ?
skit :P

[D Walford]

feral wrote:
>
> D Walford wrote:
>
> > The 2 Preludes my son has owned are very well equipped, I can't think of
> > anything they need that they haven't already got.
>
> Paris Hilton?:-)
>

Your joking, she's uglier than you:-)



Daryl

[D Walford]

atec wrote:
>
> D Walford wrote:
> > sheik yerbouti wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:11:17 +1000, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>and their 4WS systems!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>What's wrong with them?
> >>>The one on my sons 89 Prelude is trouble free and the 4WS makes the
> >>>thing a dream to park.
> >>
> >>they're a bit on the unnecessary side.
> >
> >
> > True, but it does what its supposed to do and has never given trouble.
> > Takes a bit of getting used to, first time I drive it I almost ended up
> > on top of a roundabout, the car turned into the corner a lot more than I
> > expected.
> >
> >>honda were too keen back then to prove their engineering skills and
> >>forgot to deliver value in their cars to customers - i.e. stuff they
> >>need.
> >
> >
> > The 2 Preludes my son has owned are very well equipped, I can't think of
> > anything they need that they haven't already got.
> >
> >
> >
> > Daryl
> SO your proud of the way your sons are equipped ?
> skit :P

Absolutely, they inherited very good equipment:-)



Daryl

[feral]

D Walford wrote:
>
> Your joking, she's uglier than you:-)

Never used a sugarbag, gorgeous. :-)

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Take care,
Feral

[Fraser Johnston]

"cd" <urantiacjd@dodo.com.aui> wrote in message
news:426b2844$0$24066$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> My grampa has one of them musso 4wd's with the merc 5 cylinder Diesel
> engine
> and driveline. Well he blew it up the other day, $25,000 for a new engine.
> Fuckin piece of shit either way. Con rids bent pistons need replacing,
> head
> is wrecked. This happened pretty suddenly driving on the highway. Actually
> seems like the cheap chinese/korean made body was built to last longer
> then
> the mercedes diesel engine.
>
> Anyway i offered my Grampa who has more money then sense to just get a
> toyota and be done with it.

That sounds like bullshit. You can buy the dualcab version of the Musso
brand new for $27k.

Fraser

[Toby Ponsenby]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:19:25 +0800, Fraser Johnston wrote:

> "cd" <urantiacjd@dodo.com.aui> wrote in message
> news:426b2844$0$24066$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> My grampa has one of them musso 4wd's with the merc 5 cylinder Diesel
>> engine
>> and driveline. Well he blew it up the other day, $25,000 for a new engine.
>> Fuckin piece of shit either way. Con rids bent pistons need replacing,
>> head
>> is wrecked. This happened pretty suddenly driving on the highway. Actually
>> seems like the cheap chinese/korean made body was built to last longer
>> then
>> the mercedes diesel engine.
>>
>> Anyway i offered my Grampa who has more money then sense to just get a
>> toyota and be done with it.
>
> That sounds like bullshit. You can buy the dualcab version of the Musso
> brand new for $27k.
>
> Fraser

heh, he probably wandered into the spare parts department and didn't
see the KY on display near the door on the way in.
--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[Neil Fisher]

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:31:49 +1000, Toby Ponsenby <toby@privacy.net>,
after considering some belly-button fluf, wrote:

[snip]

>heh, he probably wandered into the spare parts department and didn't
>see the KY on display near the door on the way in.

Crikey! You mean your local dealer uses a lubricant *and* doesn't
charge you for it ??? Lucky bastard. ;-)

Neil
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