Sued over non payment

[Nicholas Steel]

Several years ago I contracted an accountant to complete a tax return
for my
fathers estate.

The return contained numerous errors. I asked him to review it - he
did and the second return again had errors. I again asked him to
review it. He took an
inordinately long time so I completed the return myself. About 3
months after the estate was distributed I received the accountants
return in the mail along with a bill for all 3 returns. Naturally I
didnt pay.

He sued me and I couldnt attend the hearing as I was out of town. A
judgement was made against me.

I have a summons to attend an "oral examination" on 4 April. If I dont
attend i will be arrested. The policeman who told me this also said
that I can have the matter "set aside". Im not certain what he meant.

Any advice on my rights and options would be most appreciated.

[Seppo Renfors]

Nicholas Steel wrote:

You don't say what state you are in.

> Several years ago I contracted an accountant to complete a tax return
> for my fathers estate.

Were you the executor of the estate? This can have an important
bearing on the case.

> The return contained numerous errors. I asked him to review it - he
> did and the second return again had errors. I again asked him to
> review it. He took an
> inordinately long time so I completed the return myself. About 3
> months after the estate was distributed I received the accountants
> return in the mail along with a bill for all 3 returns. Naturally I
> didnt pay.
>
> He sued me and I couldnt attend the hearing as I was out of town. A
> judgement was made against me.

You know, summonses don't evaporate if you ignore them!! It was a very
BAD move to ignore it.

You have 21 days (from the day you received the judgement) to lodge an
appeal - and seeking orders to 'set aside the default judgement',
citing you having been out of town at the time - perhaps even when the
summons was sent to you and you "didn't know" about the up and coming
court case. I have seen a "I forgot" claim be sufficient to set aside
a default judgement - "I thought it was for the following month" also
succeeded. Something better would make it more certain. Ask for an
"urgent hearing before 4 th April" is best.

It does not absolve you from attending the "oral examination" if your
seeking of orders cannot be heard before the 4th, but it cannot really
proceed if the order to set aside the judgement is allowed to be heard
(heard it it will be, even if not granted). You would have to tell
them that at the oral examination of the upcoming hearing or if it can
be deferred to AFTER the hearing for orders.

> I have a summons to attend an "oral examination" on 4 April. If I dont
> attend i will be arrested. The policeman who told me this also said
> that I can have the matter "set aside". Im not certain what he meant.

It means you will be given a second chance at being heard - and the
case will be set down for a hearing and both parties can argue their
case before the magistrate. You will have to pay the other party's
costs up to that point, including for the hearing to set aside the
default judgement.

> Any advice on my rights and options would be most appreciated.

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[Fred Ferd]

"Vaughan Williams" <ender@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:423d5fb6$0$2718$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Nicholas Steel" <nsteel@rabbit.com.au> wrote in message
> news:e5cbdf32.0503200252.53721728@posting.google.c om...
>
>> He sued me and I couldnt attend the hearing as I was out of town. A
>> judgement was made against me.
>
> It's possible to ask for a re-hearing, but I'd say it's unlikely you'll
> get
> one if you were aware of the original hearing and chose not to turn up or
> request an adjournment because you were out of town.

I'd say that you would try to argue that you were never told of the
hearing, and
arent even sure of how he made any attempt to contact you .


Also say that you wont pay three times for one thing and you'd never have
agreed to that.
and that its he who should be fined for trying to do it !

[Seppo Renfors]

Nicholas Steel wrote:

I read your other response too.

> There is one thing I forgot to mention.
>
> I employed the accountant in my capacity as administrator of the
> estate.

....and an important part too :-)

You acted correctly in the capacity as an administrator, not
accepting material that was incorrect.

> Deceased estates such as my pop's are required to have their own tax
> file number. Does this mean they are a seperate legal identity to me?

Yes.

> if so, what are my rights?

See later.

> The original summons stated that the action was between Browne, Tomsic
> and Associates (the Accountants) and the Estate of BS Steel.

The action/judgement was against the estate only. As an administrator
you were representing the estate and the judgement isn't against you
personally, but the estate.

Also see this:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/aapa1958259/s31.html

31. Protection of persons acting on probate or administration

(1) Every person making or permitting to be made any payment or
disposition in
good faith under a representation shall be indemnified and protected
in so
doing, notwithstanding any defect or circumstance whatsoever affecting
the
validity of the representation.

> All estate money has been paid out.
>
> Does this change things?

Well... yes..... potentially at least it CAN be argued there was an
absence of "good faith", if you could be seen to have known a debt
properly due by the estate and you did not cater for it. However, this
cannot be argued at the "oral examination" - it would require another
trial - unlikely to occur, as it should have been heard at the first
hearing, if at all. It seems to me that all you need to do is to say
there is no money left in the estate! You will not be asked to pay for
it personally (if you are - tell them the judgement isn't against
you).

If you want to have the default judgement set aside, then you would
argue the following in the trial:
As you say: "He took an inordinately long time so I completed the
return myself." then you can claim he didn't perform the contract
expediently (took too long) or professionally (many errors) - that he
appeared to have given up on the job. That caused you to do the return
yourself and lodging it 3 months before you received a reply from
them.

As you "completed the return" without his assistance, then you did not
rely on his work either and derived no benefit from it. Of course it
would have been handy if you had also phoned them and informed them
"don't bother, I already did it myself" before he sent you the
material - but then perhaps you did ;-)

[..]

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[Heretic]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:38:23 +0000, Seppo Renfors wrote:



> Nicholas Steel wrote:
>
> I read your other response too.
>
>> There is one thing I forgot to mention.
>>
>> I employed the accountant in my capacity as administrator of the
>> estate.
>
> ...and an important part too :-)
>
> You acted correctly in the capacity as an administrator, not accepting
> material that was incorrect.
>
>> Deceased estates such as my pop's are required to have their own tax
>> file number. Does this mean they are a seperate legal identity to me?
>
> Yes.

There you have it. The creation of a new legal identity! What a moron the
resident village idiot proves himself to be, yet again.

There is no separate legal identity. All that happens is that the ATO
requires a separate TFN for a deceased estate for tax purposes. It's an
administrative matter only. That in no way means that there is a separate
legal identity.

>> if so, what are my rights?
>
> See later.
>
>> The original summons stated that the action was between Browne, Tomsic
>> and Associates (the Accountants) and the Estate of BS Steel.
>
> The action/judgement was against the estate only. As an administrator
> you were representing the estate and the judgement isn't against you
> personally, but the estate.
>
> Also see this:
> http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/aapa1958259/s31.html
>
> 31. Protection of persons acting on probate or administration
>
> (1) Every person making or permitting to be made any payment or
> disposition in
> good faith under a representation shall be indemnified and protected in
> so doing, notwithstanding any defect or circumstance whatsoever
> affecting the validity of the representation.
>
>> All estate money has been paid out.
>>
>> Does this change things?
>
> Well... yes..... potentially at least it CAN be argued there was an
> absence of "good faith", if you could be seen to have known a debt
> properly due by the estate and you did not cater for it. However, this
> cannot be argued at the "oral examination" - it would require another
> trial - unlikely to occur, as it should have been heard at the first
> hearing, if at all. It seems to me that all you need to do is to say
> there is no money left in the estate! You will not be asked to pay for
> it personally (if you are - tell them the judgement isn't against you).
>
> If you want to have the default judgement set aside, then you would
> argue the following in the trial:
> As you say: "He took an inordinately long time so I completed the return
> myself." then you can claim he didn't perform the contract expediently
> (took too long) or professionally (many errors) - that he appeared to
> have given up on the job. That caused you to do the return yourself and
> lodging it 3 months before you received a reply from them.
>
> As you "completed the return" without his assistance, then you did not
> rely on his work either and derived no benefit from it. Of course it
> would have been handy if you had also phoned them and informed them
> "don't bother, I already did it myself" before he sent you the material
> - but then perhaps you did ;-)
>
> [..]

An estate is not a legal person, and cannot have a legal liability imposed
on it. What this means is that a person, the executor or administrator,
has the personal legal liability, and that person is entitled to have that
liability paid out of the estate before their own private resources need
to be considered.

If the estate has been disposed of, as here, the executor/administrator is
still personally liable. Unless they can recover sufficient funds from
the persons to whom the estate was distributed, they still have to pay
these bills themselves. The village idiot has, as usual, got the law in a
bit of a twist ie completely wrong. No surprise there.

[Seppo Renfors]

Tony Smith wrote:
>


http://tinyurl.com/4jo3k


The stalking engaged in by Tony Smith is a Criminal Act emanating from
raw malice, as a result of losing an debate long time ago. You may see
him resort to copyright breaches, defamation, racism and deliberately
and knowingly breach a number of Australian and some international
laws. He attacks other people for no valid reason in forums where his
sole interest is STALKING me. Variously the mentally disturbed person
will accuse others of being me.

The EFFECT, if not the aim, is to destroy groups with its STALKING.
Note the ever increasing volume of the stalker Tony Smith! Do not
respond to the madman - notify the following of his criminal
activities of stalking - the breach of AUP's and group charters:

To him personally at:
Anthony B Smith
22 Beaver St
Clifton Beach 4879
Phone (07) 4059 1470
Mobile 0418 988 437
adolphuzspriggs@ hotmail.com

or

FEMALE TECHNOLOGIES
Level 2/50 Appel Street
Surfers Paradise Qld 4217
PO BOX 728
NERANG QLD 4211
ABN: 98510913241
Phone: 0755267767

or:

Julie Ann Johnson
Transgendered Productions
Unit 1 / 14 Oshea Drive
Nerang
QLD 4211

and:

Samantha Scafe
SS681-AP
samantha@femtech.com.au
Po Box 728
Nerang
Qld 4211

Email is:
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samantha@femtech.com.au
samantha@aussiewide.com
rebecca@cairns.net.au
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[Seppo Renfors]

> Heretic wrote:
>
> >
> > There you have it. The creation of a new legal identity! What a
> > moron the resident village idiot proves himself to be, yet again.

This pig-ignorant twerp resides in the idiot filter for VERY good
reason - it is an IDIOT who doesn't have a clue about Law. It knows I
don't see it bridling in its bib, thereby saving it embarrassment, but
the dope still mouths off hoping I will! Hell it doesn't even
understand ENGLISH..... perhaps it's why it posts via FRANCE..... but
then perhaps it is that other idiot, Turdcan, in disguise! No wonder
it attracts low life CRIMINALS to its cause.

This is what the issue was:

OP wrote:
>> Deceased estates such as my pop's are required to have their own tax
>> file number. Does this mean they are a seperate legal identity to ME? [emphasis added is mine]
>
SIR responded:
> Yes.

.....and it is 100% correct!! The ESTATE and the OP's "pop" are a
totally different legal entity to the OP - always has been. But then
the same IDIOT has demonstrated its complete lack of understanding of
probate and administration issues already under various different tags
in the past! No wonder the IDIOT attracts the low life CRIMINAL loser,
who is no wiser, to its cause.



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[Heretic]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:40:28 +0000, Seppo Renfors wrote:

>
>
>> Heretic wrote:
>>
>>
>> > There you have it. The creation of a new legal identity! What a moron
>> > the resident village idiot proves himself to be, yet again.
>
> This pig-ignorant twerp resides in the idiot filter for VERY good reason -
> it is an IDIOT who doesn't have a clue about Law. It knows I don't see it
> bridling in its bib, thereby saving it embarrassment, but the dope still
> mouths off hoping I will! Hell it doesn't even understand ENGLISH.....
> perhaps it's why it posts via FRANCE..... but then perhaps it is that
> other idiot, Turdcan, in disguise! No wonder it attracts low life
> CRIMINALS to its cause.
>
> This is what the issue was:
>
> OP wrote:
>>> Deceased estates such as my pop's are required to have their own tax
>>> file number. Does this mean they are a seperate legal identity to ME?
>>> [emphasis added is mine]
>>
> SIR responded:
>> Yes.
>
> ....and it is 100% correct!! The ESTATE and the OP's "pop" are a totally
> different legal entity to the OP - always has been. But then the same
> IDIOT has demonstrated its complete lack of understanding of probate and
> administration issues already under various different tags in the past! No
> wonder the IDIOT attracts the low life CRIMINAL loser, who is no wiser, to
> its cause.

As expected, the resident village idiot did not have the wit to leave
well enough alone. And, as usual, the resident village idiot wants to pretend that the
situation is something different. It won't work, moron!

The estate is not a legal person. The OP's "pop" is not a legal person.
The only relevant legal person is the OP, who is the administrator of
his deceased father's estate.

[Hyperoglyphe]

"Heretic" <cathars@montaillou.com.fr> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.03.23.01.15.30.740118@excommunicatio n.com.fr...
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:40:28 +0000, Seppo Renfors wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > There you have it. The creation of a new legal identity! What a moron
>>> > the resident village idiot proves himself to be, yet again.
>>
>> This pig-ignorant twerp resides in the idiot filter for VERY good
>> reason -
>> it is an IDIOT who doesn't have a clue about Law. It knows I don't see it
>> bridling in its bib, thereby saving it embarrassment, but the dope still
>> mouths off hoping I will! Hell it doesn't even understand ENGLISH.....
>> perhaps it's why it posts via FRANCE..... but then perhaps it is that
>> other idiot, Turdcan, in disguise! No wonder it attracts low life
>> CRIMINALS to its cause.
>>
>> This is what the issue was:
>>
>> OP wrote:
>>>> Deceased estates such as my pop's are required to have their own tax
>>>> file number. Does this mean they are a seperate legal identity to ME?
>>>> [emphasis added is mine]
>>>
>> SIR responded:
>>> Yes.
>>
>> ....and it is 100% correct!! The ESTATE and the OP's "pop" are a totally
>> different legal entity to the OP - always has been. But then the same
>> IDIOT has demonstrated its complete lack of understanding of probate and
>> administration issues already under various different tags in the past!
>> No
>> wonder the IDIOT attracts the low life CRIMINAL loser, who is no wiser,
>> to
>> its cause.
>
> As expected, the resident village idiot did not have the wit to leave
> well enough alone. And, as usual, the resident village idiot wants to
> pretend that the
> situation is something different. It won't work, moron!
>
> The estate is not a legal person. The OP's "pop" is not a legal person.
> The only relevant legal person is the OP, who is the administrator of
> his deceased father's estate.

Oh No! We are back to the Renforz idea of the deceased owning things! I
pity the OP having to deal with complex legal and emotional issues and
having them clouded by the fuzzy mindedness of Sepponic dementia. Instead
of an "I stand corrected", Heretic receives abuse in the form of "Pig
Ignorant Twerp".

If the OP does a google "groups" search on "deceased estate" in aus.law from
about a year ago, he will be entertained by the lunatic's ravings and
educated by some detailed posts from patient people on this very subject.

Quite clearly as pointed out elsewhere, Renforz has amalgamated two.
Renforz would be well advised to seek medical help, if he has not yet been
diagnosed as suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Dave

[Seppo Renfors]

Hyperoglyphe wrote:
>
> "Heretic" <cathars@montaillou.com.fr> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.03.23.01.15.30.740118@excommunicatio n.com.fr...

The sound of a fart makes more sense than the idiots manage between
the two of them.

[..]


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[Tony Smith]

Seppo Renfors wrote:

<snip seppo babble>

Yawn...


Tony Smith

[Tony Smith]

Seppo Renfors, the lying maggot wrote:


<Snip the seppo babble>

>

Everything anyone ever needs to know about Seppo (the clown TM) Renfors

See Renfors get dumped on by a Senior judge for using the very tactics
he tries here, in a court :- http://tinyurl.com/2hut9

See Renfors caught red handed plagiarising http://tinyurl.com/3twgn




Tony Smith

[Seppo Renfors]

Tony Smith wrote:
>
http://tinyurl.com/4jo3k


The stalking engaged in by Tony Smith is a Criminal Act emanating from
raw malice, as a result of losing an debate long time ago. You may see
him resort to copyright breaches, defamation, racism and deliberately
and knowingly breach a number of Australian and some international
laws. He attacks other people for no valid reason in forums where his
sole interest is STALKING me. Variously the mentally disturbed person
will accuse others of being me.

The EFFECT, if not the aim, is to destroy groups with its STALKING.
Note the ever increasing volume of the stalker Tony Smith! Do not
respond to the madman - notify the following of his criminal
activities of stalking - the breach of AUP's and group charters:

To him personally at:
Anthony B Smith
22 Beaver St
Clifton Beach 4879
Phone (07) 4059 1470
Mobile 0418 988 437
adolphuzspriggs@ hotmail.com

or

FEMALE TECHNOLOGIES
Level 2/50 Appel Street
Surfers Paradise Qld 4217
PO BOX 728
NERANG QLD 4211
ABN: 98510913241
Phone: 0755267767

or:

Julie Ann Johnson
Transgendered Productions
Unit 1 / 14 Oshea Drive
Nerang
QLD 4211

and:

Samantha Scafe
SS681-AP
samantha@femtech.com.au
Po Box 728
Nerang
Qld 4211

Email is:
admin@femtech.com.au
samantha@femtech.com.au
samantha@aussiewide.com
rebecca@cairns.net.au
gstern@cairns.net.au
rebecca@aussiewide.com
gstern@pobox.com



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[Tony Smith]

Seppo Renfors wrote:


<snip Seppo Babble>

Seppo Renfors, the fanatical, fraudulent, fixated falsifier, forger,
faker and fool.



Tony Smith

[Seppo Renfors]

Tony Smith wrote:
>
> Seppo Renfors wrote:
>
> <snip Seppo Babble>
>
[snip plagiarised defamations]
>
> Tony Smith

WARNING the effeminate criminal is hell bent on destroying every group
there is as it cross posts is hate filled criminal action all over the
place eg - alt.books.tom-clancy this time.

As we know from the following URL

http://tinyurl.com/4jo3k

Tony is hell bent on keeping its criminality in the public eye - but
then why not, he is actually PROUD of being a low life criminal, and
the scum has now extended that to criminal defamation, as well as
civil defamation. Further more, it has had to PLAGIARISED the
defamatory material from a well known RACIST - racists are the kind of
people he gets sexually aroused by as "he" has stated:

"I do enjoy reaming out racists." - Tony Smith

No wonder it sucks up to every Nazi type and White Supremacist there
is to seek sexual satisfaction - but then what can you expect from a
low life criminal.

BUT as the effeminate criminals says:

"if I was into homosexual sex, I doubt it would matter at all to most
people here" - Tony Smith

Maybe not, but I wonder how many of the racists and Nazi types will
feel uncomfortable having Tony Smith coveting their arse? I dare say
it would matter to them!! However they need not put up with the moral
degenerate criminaL type at all, report the pond scum to the following
for abusing the groups and common decency!!

The EFFECT, if not the aim, is to destroy groups with its STALKING.
Note the ever increasing volume of the stalker Tony Smith! Do not
respond to the madman - notify the following of his criminal
activities of stalking - the breach of AUP's and group charters:

To him personally at:
Anthony B Smith
22 Beaver St
Clifton Beach 4879
Phone (07) 4059 1470
Mobile 0418 988 437
adolphuzspriggs@ hotmail.com

or

FEMALE TECHNOLOGIES
Level 2/50 Appel Street
Surfers Paradise Qld 4217
PO BOX 728
NERANG QLD 4211
ABN: 98510913241
Phone: 0755267767

or:

Julie Ann Johnson
Transgendered Productions
Unit 1 / 14 Oshea Drive
Nerang
QLD 4211

and:

Samantha Scafe
SS681-AP
samantha@femtech.com.au
Po Box 728
Nerang
Qld 4211

Email is:
admin@femtech.com.au
samantha@femtech.com.au
samantha@aussiewide.com
rebecca@cairns.net.au
gstern@cairns.net.au
rebecca@aussiewide.com
gstern@pobox.com



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[Tony Smith]

Renfors the lying maggot wrote:

<snip the incessant Seppo Babble>


Yeah right Renfors!.....

For perspective on the mad, wild and fanciful accusations by Renfors
the plagiarising village idiot, see:

http://tinyurl.com/3twgn

&

http://tinyurl.com/2hut9


Or to give him his correct "titles":

Seppo (the clown TM) Renfors, the fanatical, fraudulent, fixated,
falsifier, forger, faker and fool.


Renfors, If your current bout of Sepponic Dementia runs true to form
about now is where you will try a few troll tricks like adding
newsgroups, setting followups to unrelated groups, and of course,
sending in your usual army of socks.....

Boringly predicable of course, but very funny nonetheless. Don't ever
change will you fool.....


Tony Smith

[Seppo Renfors]

Tony Smith wrote:
>
As we know fron the following URL

http://tinyurl.com/4jo3k

Tony is hell bent on keeping its criminality in the public eye - but
then why not, he is actually PROUD of being a low life criminal, and
the scum has now extended that to criminal defamation, as well as
civil defamation. Further more, it has had to PLAGIARISED the
defamatory material from a well known RACIST - racists are the kind of
people he gets sexually aroused by as "he" has stated:

"I do enjoy reaming out racists." - Tony Smith

No wonder it sucks up to every Nazi type and White Supremacist there
is - but then what can you expect from a low life criminal.

BUT as the effeminate criminals says:

"if I was into homosexual sex, I doubt it would matter at all to most
people here" - Tony Smith

I wonder how many of the racists and Nazi types will feel
uncomfortable having Tony Smith coveting their arse? I dare say it
would matter to them!! However they need not put up with the moral
degenerate criminaL type at all, report the pond scum to the following
for abusing the groups and common decency!!

The EFFECT, if not the aim, is to destroy groups with its STALKING.
Note the ever increasing volume of the stalker Tony Smith! Do not
respond to the madman - notify the following of his criminal
activities of stalking - the breach of AUP's and group charters:

To him personally at:
Anthony B Smith
22 Beaver St
Clifton Beach 4879
Phone (07) 4059 1470
Mobile 0418 988 437
adolphuzspriggs@ hotmail.com

or

FEMALE TECHNOLOGIES
Level 2/50 Appel Street
Surfers Paradise Qld 4217
PO BOX 728
NERANG QLD 4211
ABN: 98510913241
Phone: 0755267767

or:

Julie Ann Johnson
Transgendered Productions
Unit 1 / 14 Oshea Drive
Nerang
QLD 4211

and:

Samantha Scafe
SS681-AP
samantha@femtech.com.au
Po Box 728
Nerang
Qld 4211

Email is:
admin@femtech.com.au
samantha@femtech.com.au
samantha@aussiewide.com
rebecca@cairns.net.au
gstern@cairns.net.au
rebecca@aussiewide.com
gstern@pobox.com



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[Tony Smith]

Renfors the lying maggot wrote:

<snip the incessant, mindless Seppo Babble>


Yeah right Renfors!.....

For an accurate perspective on the mad, wild and fanciful accusations
by Renfors the plagiarising village idiot, racist, Nazi goon wannabe
and (apparent) closet gay, see:

http://tinyurl.com/3twgn

In which he tried exactly the same wild, mad assertions in court and
the Senior judge presiding took a very satisfying dump all over him.

And:

http://tinyurl.com/2hut9

Where Renfors presents material written by others as his own and then
tries to hide the fact he has been caught red-handed thieving other's
intellectual property by employing a blizzard of gobbledy-gook.


Or to give Seppo (the clown TM) his correct "titles":

Seppo (the clown TM) Renfors, the fanatical, fraudulent, fixated,
falsifier, forger, faker and fool.



Don't ever change Feldwebel, you are such an amusing village idiot!


Tony Smith.

[Seppo Renfors]

Tony Smith wrote:
>



Not only does it have a criminal record it boasts about, but in
addition it also has publicly admitted to stealing:

"...both mine and ones stolen from others" - Tony Smith

As we know from the following URL

http://tinyurl.com/4jo3k

The effeminate criminal is hell bent on keeping its criminality in the
public eye - but then why not, he is actually PROUD of being a low
life criminal, and the scum has now extended that to criminal
defamation, as well as civil defamation.

Further more, it has had to PLAGIARISED the defamatory material from a
well known RACIST - racists are the kind of people he gets sexually
aroused by as "he" has stated:

"I do enjoy reaming out racists." - Tony Smith

No wonder it sucks up to every Nazi type and White Supremacist there
is - but then what can you expect from a low life criminal.

BUT as the effeminate criminal says:

"if I was into homosexual sex, I doubt it would matter at all to most
people here" - Tony Smith

I wonder how many of the racists and Nazi types will feel
uncomfortable having Tony Smith coveting their arse? I dare say it
would matter to them!! However they need not put up with the moral
degenerate criminaL type at all, report the pond scum to the following
for abusing the groups and common decency!!

The EFFECT, if not the aim, is to destroy groups with its STALKING.
Note the ever increasing volume of the stalker Tony Smith! Do not
respond to the madman - notify the following of his criminal
activities of stalking - the breach of AUP's and group charters:

To him personally at:
Anthony B Smith
22 Beaver St
Clifton Beach 4879
Phone (07) 4059 1470
Mobile 0418 988 437
adolphuzspriggs@ hotmail.com

or

FEMALE TECHNOLOGIES
Level 2/50 Appel Street
Surfers Paradise Qld 4217
PO BOX 728
NERANG QLD 4211
ABN: 98510913241
Phone: 0755267767

or:

Julie Ann Johnson
Transgendered Productions
Unit 1 / 14 Oshea Drive
Nerang
QLD 4211

and:

Samantha Scafe
SS681-AP
samantha@femtech.com.au
Po Box 728
Nerang
Qld 4211

Email is:
admin@femtech.com.au
samantha@femtech.com.au
samantha@aussiewide.com
rebecca@cairns.net.au
gstern@cairns.net.au
rebecca@aussiewide.com
gstern@pobox.com



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[Nicholas Steel]

I've reviewed the posts that have been made since my original post
above and the consensus appears to be that I have to roll with the
punches and attend the oral examination.

I have downloaded the form that needs to be completed and have the
information I need to complete it.

The oral examination is on April 6th and it would be helpful if the
following questions could be pondered:

What are my rights regarding oral examinations?

Am I legally bound to make payments?

I am on the Newstart Allowance and my expenses greatly exceed my
income. What is the likely outcome?

Do I have to sign anything?

Is there a possibility that my Newstart Allowance will be garnisheed?

This last possibilty chills me to the core.


Any advice will much appreciated.