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Lupin
28-04-2005, 05:02 PM
First impressions:
Unit was well packed with foam in cardboard carry case.

Comes with RCA leads, remote, 2 X AAA batteries, manual and 1.5m DVI cable (still cant believe that)

Nice looking unit with the same build quality of other players in the $300 - $500 price range. Remote is well layed out, with an illuminating face. Play/Stop and Pause buttons could be more prominent.
Pics of the unit, remote and supplied accessories can be found here:
http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_images.html

Manual is easy to understand and looks to explain all that needs explaing for initial setup and basic playback.
Copy of the manual can be found here: http://www.oppodigital.com/Download/OPDV-971H_Manual.pdf

Power lead is US standard and non detachable, so I needed to use a $5 plug/adapter from Hardly Normal. This is the first and only problem I have with this player. Being multivoltage, no other adapters or converters were needed.

Before I get to picture quality, I should mention my only reason for getting this player was for upscale playback over DVI. This player WILL NOT upscale over component, and I did not test component. Testing was done on DVI only.


Equipment used:
2 X Panasonic AE700 Projectors calibrated with DVE and AVIA (Borrowed the second unit to make testing easier) native resolution is 1280 X 720
Momitsu V880 DX connected via DVI > HDMI cable
Oppo DV971H connected via DVI > HDMI cable
Zensonic 330 connected to a CRT TV (this unit has no DVI out and is used in this test to compare for disc compatibility and error handling on faulty DVDs only since, to date, it is the only player I have that can play anything I put in its mouth)


Onto the testing.

Colour:
To my untrained eyes, this player produces excellent colour with no blue or green push that has been associated with some of the denon players sharing the same chip. My projector has a colour warming filter that, when properly calibrated, gives me 65k from 20 to 100 IRE. Flesh tones with this player look like flesh tones, not orange, pink or red. Although the Oppo passes blacker than black over DVI I was unable to get fine shadow detail on very dark scenes simply because this LCD projector DOES NOT pass blacker than black regardless of what DVD player or source is feeding the signal.

Sharpness:
AE700 display uses smooth screen technology and at times can seem a bit soft. With the Oppos sharpness controls on "low" I was looking at a very sharp, crisp image. For me, this is great, for others whose display either doesn’t have sharpness controls to soften the signal form the player or who like a softer picture, this may be an issue for you. This is completely display dependent and won’t bother most people. Oppo Digitals future firmware release may resolve this (they are aware of some users who would like to lower or disable sharpness and to date they have implemented users requests when possible)

Disc compatibility:
The Oppo played DVD-R/RW DVD+R/RW and DVD+R dual layer. I did not bother with CD material since I believe any player should handle these across the board by now. This universal player had no issues playing material at both R4 PAL @50z or R1 NTSC @60Hz (progressive and interlaced) at resolutions of 480i/480p 576p 720p and 1080i. No stuttering at 720p or 1080i for PAL or NTSC which is an issue with many upscaling players including the momitsu.

DVD-A.
I don’t have DVD-A, so lets get that out of the way now. The following review for DVD-A has been cut and paste from AVS forum form a trusted source.
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DVD-A review

ted_b
Senior Member

Registered: Nov 1999
Location: Westlake, OH
Posts: 380
My Oppo arrived yesterday and I let it sit for a day before installing it today. As I posted earlier, the first review of the machine would be for DVD-Audio quality only. It first needed to best my first-generation built-like-a-tank Technics DVDA-10 in sound quality (esp mulitchannel) before I unpack the Dtrovision converter to test it on my Runco pj.

I initially set it up via component just to be able to navigate the menus and set up the audio correctly. The first glitch came there. In the "downmix" menu screen I attempted to set the machine for 5.1ch in order to set the rear and center speakers, and make sure the multichannel was enabled. The first attempt at doing that resulted in no surround sound and a muffled center channel, along with the inability to reset the center and rears in the menu, regardless of setting (5.1 is the only setting the enables those line items but I tried everything.) They remained grayed out until I unplugged and replugged he machine. All is well and has been since that first and only glitch.

My Technics A10 uses an old MASH 24/192 dac chip, but uses very good op amps and the remainder of the analog circuit is well-made. Conversely, the Oppo uses a much newer (duh!) Crystal 24/192 dac but the rest of the analog stage looks to be spartan. Well, what did I expect for this level of player. Then came the music. I used the following DVD-A's: AIX DVD-A sampler, Donald Fagen's Kamakiriad , Beck Guero, Paul Simon You're The One and a little snippet from the Chesky set-up disc.

The Technics player is plugged into a PS Audio P300 Power Plant (ac regenerator) with a tube multiwave setup. The Oppo was initially plugged into a cheap power strip and then into the wall. The A10 is characterized by a lush sound with a somewhat bloated or exaggerated midbass, but it's a sound I'm used to. I spent about an hour listening to several cuts, the last being from Kamakiriad. Then I switched cables and put the Oppo into play. Jaw-dropping soundstage expansion, jaw-dropping resolution, jaw-dropping micro-dynamics. The only thing missing was the prodigious midbass that I'm used to. So I tried a few other cuts, inclduing the Cello concerto from the AIX demo. Very well-defined, very clean and almost clincal in its precision, but lacking the last octave and a half vs the A10. Hmmm, the Oppo is clearly the king, but damn, it's a bit clinical (not hrash mind you) and I'd love to have it all.

Then I removed the A10 and plugged the Oppo AC into the PS Audio Power Plant tubed multiwave. Voila. The lowest ocatve is there in spades. The midbass is back and not nearly as exaggerated, but that's probably a good thing; I just need to listen a bit longer. Overall, I am blown away by the sound of this little machine. I'm sure the Denon 3910 trounces it, and my HT system is articulate enough to hear the difference, but at this point in time in the life of hi-rez, blue-ray, etc it just ain't worth it.

My A10 is a great player, is built with incredible quality and has an SDI modded output for video scalers. I will be able to sell it easily for the SDI capability.

Now it's onto the video side of the house to see if my new resident DVD-A player will also become my video source for my crt pj(Dtrovision DVI-to-VGA converter will be unpacked and set up tomorrow). It needs to beat a very simple but rock-solid Modwright modded Sony 999ES with extra large power supply, 480p output. I'm guessing it will go 2-for-2 this weekend.

Ted
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Hope that covers DVD-A performance for those who wanted to know.
Back to the video side of things.

Error Handling:
A few months back I went to several AV stores with a copy of "The butterfly Effect". My copy of this DVD has extremely exaggerated pixilation at a certain chapter point on many players. So I played this chapter on about 8 different players with mixed results. Two Sony players failed, Samsung failed, a pioneer player skipped the chapter entirely, Deneon 1910 and 3910 played through with no pixilation (this surprised me since I thought the loaders in Denons were sensitive to such things), my momitsu failed, zensonic 330 passed with flying colours and the Oppo?............ What pixilation.
Next in my collection of buggered discs is a poorly authored copy of Independence day. This did not load on the denons on the same day I tested the "the butterfly effect". The momitsu will sit trying to load this disc for 5 mins and then decide it is a data disc and load the ISO menu. The zensonic is far more forgiving and loads/plays fine. The Oppo also played this DVD without complaint. Lastly, I have a very scratched DVD that most players lockup on at several parts of the disc. The best I can ever hope for is for the player to continue playing when it gets to these points. Many players lockup completely and wont play past the first read error it encounters. The Oppo faired well here too, at all times the Oppo froze for 1 -3 seconds then continued on. This DVD is unwatchable of course, but it was interesting to see the Oppo just keep slogging away at it.

Macrobloking:
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the macroblocking bug, here is a brief rundown:
Macroblocking appears on some DVD’s as an artifact of heavy MPEG compression. It is normally very subtle, but the Faroudja chip exaggerates it, so that it becomes distracting on some displays. Macroblocking looks like patches of moving/pulsating off-color blocks, and is most often seen on background walls and floors, in mist, and in fade-in/fade-out scenes.
The momitsu doesn’t have this problem since it doesn’t have a Faroudja chip.
When I had the opportunity to play around with the denon 1910 and 3910, both of which use a Faroudja chip, I did notice some enhanced macroblocking on some DVDs. This was very minimal on my display and I had to look for it to see it. Two that come to mind were "Finding Nemo" and some of the fog and water/horizon scenes from "Master and Commander" So I used these two discs to see if the Oppo has the same issue. On my display there was some very minimal macroblocking in Finding Nemo, and less in "Master and commander". It should be noted that the presence of exaggerated macroblocking is very display dependent. Some users see it, others do not. A properly calibrated display minimizes macroblocking even further almost to the point of non-existence. The degree of macroblocking was not an issue for me with this player, I've seen much worse on much more expensive players.


And now the problems.
The Oppo has only one issue at the moment.
The problem has been noted by many users on AVS forums and that is vertical edge enhancement. This fault rears its head on only some displays and again when properly calibrated can be greatly reduced or eradicated. If you imagine watching an image of someone in a black pin stripe suit, the high contrast white vertical lines of the pin stripes can appear to shimmer and crawl. The effect is extremely pronounced and very distracting. This crawling shimmering effect is on Oppo Digitals priority list at the moment and we can fully expect the next firmware to address this.


Other notes:

The DVI output of this player is non HDCP compliant. This means users who own an older display with a DVI port can still take advantage of the upscaling capabilities of this player. (This does not affect upscaling on displays that have a DVI port that IS HDCP compliant)

Going from one scaled resolution to another is alot easier on the Oppo than the momitsu. The Oppo remote has a DVI button that, when depressed, will cycle through resolutions in stop mode. With the momitsu, and others, you need to stop play, enter setup menu, enter video options, then cycle through to the resolution you want, press enter, then exit setup menu... ACK!

Conclusion:
Aside from the vertical line shimmering issues, this unit excels. The picture that this player produces is the best I have seem on my display. The image is sharp and clean with excellent colour reproduction on PAL and NTSC. The overall impression when watching a movie at 1080i was simply breathtaking. I'm impressed with Oppo Digital’s first offering, if the coming firmware resolves the issues pointed out earlier then this unit will become my resident player and the 2 momitsu v880DX units and a Samsung HD 747 I have will be destined for eBay.


Hope this has been of some use

Regards
Peter

This unit can be purchased directly from Oppo Digitals website www.oppodigital.com

assid
02-05-2005, 02:17 PM
I ordered one yesterday, looking forward to it's arrival. I will be hooking it up to the DVI post on my Toshiba 57" CRT RPTV.
I also ordered a DVI switcher (Gefen HDTV-241) so I can still use the DVI ouput from my Samsung DirecTV HD receiver (SIR TS-360) and the DVI output from my soon to be arriving Oppo DVD player. :)

chrissara
02-05-2005, 02:46 PM
I too have purchased one and confirm that the quality of this player is superb.

And I referenced it against my Denon A1. In my view the A1 is better, but the Oppo is so damn close it aint funny. The PQ is superlative with DVI and very good with component. I am using a 32inch LCD TV (2nd Gen) and well as a 42" Plasma (SD quality).

Sadly no one is importing them. Overseas warranty is my only issue.

tat2u
26-05-2005, 01:23 PM
Howdy all,
Well I just bout an Oppo too but am having trouble getting a HDMI signal to my AE 700 projector. I bought a DVI_D to HDMI cable from elitescreens but the pano just won't detect a signal. I can't find any settings in the players or projectors menus so am thinking it may be the cable. Unlucky me I live in the sticks so will have to get another one maybe but a t $130 to $190 or more for a 10m cable i don't want to get another one if that wasn't the problem.
Any ideas guys?
Thanks in advance,
Daryl

rezok
26-05-2005, 05:16 PM
I have the same setup with the same cable and no problems.

Are you sure your outputs/inputs/plugs etc are all setup correctly?

tat2u
26-05-2005, 05:32 PM
hi,
well i don't really see what could be wrong, nothing can go other than where they are now. Correct me if i'm wrong...please...

Btiltman
30-05-2005, 07:37 AM
This unit can be purchased directly from Oppo Digitals website www.oppodigital.com

I presume this player can easily be made region free? I dont see the region setting mentioned in the review.

Thanks,
Bill

tat2u
30-05-2005, 05:29 PM
yeah here's the code and it worked for me

There is also a multi region hack on videohelp which is:
Press Setup on remote control to access the setup page
* Enter 9210 on the remote
* A secret menu will pop up
* Select 0 to 6 in region code. 0 is multi region
* Press Setup on remote again to exit
After setting region 0 I've tried region 1 and region 2 discs and both work.
It also pays DIVX and Xvids written to a DVD RW and is the only player I know which has smooth forward and reverse search for these. I strongly recommend this player.
With all its features, a goodprice and active support this is an excellent player for all including international travellers.

and it was the cable that was causing the problem i had, am getting a better cable but also might have to use 2 shorter cables and an extender/repeater box

JR-Aus
07-06-2005, 07:45 AM
Thanks for your Post Lupin.

I also have a Pana AE700 (Done about 1400 hours) and your post and some quick research on this baby has had me go for my credit card. I ordered one last night. I had considered the Momitsu but could not quite justify it based on price and what I new of other DVD players not quite comming up to scratch. This Oppo looks like the right price and quality that I've been looking for.

I would be interested if you could tell me what filter you got for your projector and where as I would like to do the same. I have calibrated mine to the best of my ability using DVE but understand better performance can be obtained through the use of a filter.

Also, I was wondering if you have experienced the so called "flashing" of the picture using the Pana's HDMI port? I have read about it on AVS but wonder if Assie models exhibit this problem. Is it bad?

Thanks

JR

jokiin
07-06-2005, 10:14 AM
This player seems to have some issues as reported by users here http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=17479&st=0

pointym5
20-06-2005, 03:07 AM
I've had one of these for about 2 months, viewing via DVI hookup to a Mitsubishi 16x9 42" RP TV.

I find the video quality overall to be excellent. My main complaint so far about the device is that it fails to play certain DVDs. It gives no problems at all on some, but others (possibly on all dual-layer discs) it begins to stutter after a few minutes of play, and eventually begins freezing and skipping large chunks of the disc, rendering it essentially useless.

Examples of this are the recent Universal re-releases of The Right Stuff and Apollo 13. In both cases I'm playing pristine new discs that play fine in other devices.

I've emailed Oppo support but have so far received no response whatsoever.

BigAl
23-06-2005, 09:31 AM
Greetings gurus.

I saw this OPPO dvd player offered on eBay in Australia and was considering buying it given all the rave reviews.

My question is I have a 50" JVC HD panel that is W-XGA (1366 x 768 pixel) that has HDMI input that can only take 1080i or SD input, 720p is possible only over component, would I be better off with Samsung HD-850 that I believe could deliver 720p input over component or should I go with OPPO option of 1080i via HDMI?

I have read somewhere that 1080i has an overall better picture quality, but 720p is better for hi-speed motion.

Many thanks in advance for your wisdom!

Cheers

rezok
23-06-2005, 09:35 AM
You are quite right re the 720 and 1080i.

A few people are having lip sync problems on certain titles with the oppo (including me) and I would be waiting for these to be rectified before you buy.

Another friend bought one on my advice for his 42" Hitachi HD unit and he is thoroughly disappointed - reckons his $130 LG gives a better picture over 480p.
I gave a bum steer on that one too :(


Id hang back, unless people sway you the other way...

jokiin
23-06-2005, 10:00 AM
I would say waiting is the best idea as this is something that would be annoying in the long term, the wheels turn very slowly when it comes to getting firmware fixes from Chinese manufacturers, don't want to sound negative, just realistic.

BigAl
23-06-2005, 10:20 AM
Thank you for all your input.

The other option I have considered (totally different and way more expensive approach)is to buy Denon 2910 for upscaling to watch quality stuff and LG ($130 one for DIVx viewing for my wife as she gets a lot of them)

I was just tempted with OPPO having just seen it offered on eBay as a possible bargain as I was reluctant to transact with the overseas mob.

Many thanks again

pana
23-06-2005, 07:33 PM
Just recieved the oppo dvd one question I have if anyone can assist.When I press the DVI button on the remote in stop mode to change the output the screen goes black then back on,but the output is not displayed how do I know what resolution is running?

T.V is the samsung SP56L7HX rear pro DLP

Thanks
Andrew

jriihi
01-07-2005, 03:57 AM
Major Firmware Release June 29, 2005

OPPO OPDV971H DVD Player Firmware Release Notes
Version: OP971-8-0628 Release Date: June 29, 2005

This firmware release addressed the following:

1. Fixed shimmering that bothered certain percentage of the user population
2. Added Off option for Sharpness
3. Improved audio/video synchronization
4. Added five Audio Delay options to suit various receiver systems. Options include 10ms, 20ms, 30ms, 40ms, and 50 ms.
5. Added On/Off options for Faroudja “CCS” (Cross Color Suppression)
6. Added On/Off options for Faroudja “TrueLife” enhancement
7. Added On/Off options for Angle icon
8. Added support for 540p DVI resolution
9. Added a toggle between the silvered-colored remote and the new black-colored remote by pressing and hold the STOP key on the front panel of the OPPO player for 3 second and then release. The firmware is default to support the silver-colored remote.



This GA release has accumulatively incorporated all the fixes and new features to date. Click here to find instructions on how to upgrade. Orders shipped on and after June 30, 2005 from the OPPO on-line store are loaded with the latest firmware, OP971-8-0628.

DigiDave
25-07-2005, 12:06 PM
I received my Oppo dvd player last week, and it included the latest firmware update preloaded. I'm very happy with this player so far.

I can confirm that the new audio delay function has fixed any problems that have been previously mentioned. I have mine set to 20ms, and it's perfect.

Thanks to tat2u for the region fix. Mine came as region 1, despite being shipped to Australia, and I'm glad I could change this!

The only issue I have had is a slight stammering in panning shots. I was using 720p DVI output to my Sanyo Z2 projector, playing a PAL dvd. I've been used to very smooth pans from my Philips 963SA, so this was a bit of a setback.

The solution I ended up finding, was to switch to PAL video setting, then switch to 576p DVI output. Suddenly pans were perfect and smooth again. I tried 720p after setting to PAL, but to no benefit. I also tried 1080i after switching to PAL, and this was exactly the same as 576p (so just as good). I was also surprised to see that letting the Z2 do the scaling, produced just as good an image as using 720p directly from the Oppo. So I'm now using 576p to watch PAL dvd's, and 720p to watch NTSC.

I also tried setting the video to AUTO, but even with a PAL dvd, it still goes to 480p on the DVI output, so I had to force it to PAL to get the 576p option instead. Not a big problem, just means if I watch an NTSC dvd, I need to switch the video settings again.

I'm assuming that the reason for the panning problem is that 720p is output at 60hz, the same as 480p (NTSC frequency standard). Whereas 576p is output at 50hz (PAL standard). I checked the specs of the Z2, and it only lists 720p at 60hz. However, it lists 1080i at both 50hz and 60hz. So I don't even know if the Z2 would accept 720p at 50hz.

Has anyone else come across this problem, or know if 720p @50hz is a possibility ?

Chicken Man
14-08-2005, 05:34 PM
Thanks DigiDave for your findings of the Oppo with the Sanyo Z2, I too have a Z2 and soon to be the owner of an Oppo so your comments have been most helpful.

C.M