Join the Revolution & crush the rorts of the mobile phone industry

[Jason Vaughn]

Port your existing number now and receive $30 free pre-paid credit.

visit www.joinrevolution.com , promotion code: REVT30

[John Smith]

A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.

Jason Vaughn wrote:
> Port your existing number now and receive $30 free pre-paid credit.
>
> visit www.joinrevolution.com , promotion code: REVT30
>
>

[Jason Vaughn]

Everyone wants something for nothing these days!

Porting your number from one network to another is completley free. If you
found enough offers like this one you could end up with months worth of free
call credits.

You arent obliged in anyway to continue using their service once your free
credit is used up. Tis a good way to get some free call credits.

[Jason]

On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:53:25 +1000, John Smith <test@test.com> wrote:

>Jason Vaughn wrote:
>> Port your existing number now and receive $30 free pre-paid credit.
>>
>> visit www.joinrevolution.com , promotion code: REVT30

>A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.

I consider flagfalls for voice and data calls a 'rort' too, but most
people seem to put up with this 'rort' without complaint.

It all depends upon what the local market conditions are which in turn
governs what people will put up with, and obviously some people are
prepared to an access fee in turn for lower PAYG call charges.

If you want to see charges for everything, have a look at the new
Easymobile product in the UK!

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[Martin Taylor]

Jason said....

>>A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.
>
> I consider flagfalls for voice and data calls a 'rort' too, but most
> people seem to put up with this 'rort' without complaint.

I also consider timed calls for mobiles and local calls to be a "rort"
too. But people willingly accept this. It's funny, but if they
introduced timed local calls for landlines, people would revolt. So, why
they accept one but not the other has got me..

[Jason Vaughn]

It does seem a little strange but think about how much you pay for the
internet compared to some places around the world. Ive read about some dirt
cheap, high speed connections available in places like Japan. All comes down
to where you choose to live at the end of the day I suppose.



"Martin Taylor" <mjpt57@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jason said....
>
>>>A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.
>>
>> I consider flagfalls for voice and data calls a 'rort' too, but most
>> people seem to put up with this 'rort' without complaint.
>
> I also consider timed calls for mobiles and local calls to be a "rort"
> too. But people willingly accept this. It's funny, but if they
> introduced timed local calls for landlines, people would revolt. So, why
> they accept one but not the other has got me..
>
>

[DrKatz]

[QUOTE=John Smith]A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.

So John would you rather pay 60c, 74c or a $1 per min to avoid your nasty "access fee"? The fee is 15c per day, you can save that with one phone call!!

[TA 2000]

A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.

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I'd agree $50 odd dollars just to have your phone connected to the network for a year mmm.....

[DrKatz]

I'd agree $50 odd dollars just to have your phone connected to the network for a year mmm.....

But if you can save more than $50 in call costs over a year...which i have already done in far less than a year, doesnt that make it better value? In my opinion it is shortsighted to view it as a rip off, when in the long run you will save far more.

[Martin Taylor]

DrKatz said....

> But if you can save more than $50 in call costs over a year...which i
> have already done in far less than a year, doesnt that make it better
> value? In my opinion it is shortsighted to view it as a rip off, when
> in the long run you will save far more.

This always gets me - people bragging about "saving" money, when in
fact, they're spending it. Like the missus who goes out and buys
something cos it's on special. "Look dear, look what I got. I saved
$1.99. It normally costs $15,99." Thing is, she spent nearly $14 on
something that she didn't need.

Like mobile phones. Private use, they're handy, they're a gadget, but
they aren't vital to one's existance. Business use, yeah, they can help
generate an income. Ergo, unless you're a business, anyone who spends
money on a mobile phone isn't saving a cent.

[DrKatz]

I think your logic is far more flawed than that which you are trying to argue against. If i am spending less money than i would doing the same thing with another mobile company then i am saving. It is only if i change my behaviour that i do not save money...ie. Revtel have cheaper calls therefore i will make more of them.

[virgmob007@netscape.net]

Martin Taylor wrote:
> DrKatz said....
>
> > But if you can save more than $50 in call costs over a year...which i
> > have already done in far less than a year, doesnt that make it better
> > value? In my opinion it is shortsighted to view it as a rip off, when
> > in the long run you will save far more.
>
> This always gets me - people bragging about "saving" money, when in
> fact, they're spending it. Like the missus who goes out and buys
> something cos it's on special. "Look dear, look what I got. I saved
> $1.99. It normally costs $15,99." Thing is, she spent nearly $14 on
> something that she didn't need.
>
> Like mobile phones. Private use, they're handy, they're a gadget, but
> they aren't vital to one's existance. Business use, yeah, they can help
> generate an income. Ergo, unless you're a business, anyone who spends
> money on a mobile phone isn't saving a cent.

I first got a mobile in order to avoid the high costs of having a
landline phone, and I am not a business (if you exclude funny
business!); and I make relatively few phone calls, and that now on
public phones whenever possible (towards the end of my pre-paid credits
period, I then try to use up my credits -- although I come from a long
line of misers!). Also, I have been involved in a long term legal
litigation case, and it is necessary to have contact with my legal
counsel.

[BG]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:49:25 +1000, DrKatz
<DrKatz.1pkh2f@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote:
>
>I think your logic is far more flawed than that which you are trying to
>argue against. If i am spending less money than i would doing the same
>thing with another mobile company then i am saving.

That's exactly what the advertisers want us to think, but...

You're not saving anything!

You're still spending, but less!


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[DrKatz]

Of course im still spending, who the hell doesnt spend! Are you suggesting we all sit at home, calculating how much money we are saving by not using our phones? Or should we perhaps revert to cheaper alternatives? Start writing letters again, they only cost 50c...how much is a carrier pigeon?

My point is, putting the select few aside who refuse to make calls to avoid spending money, if you are going to be making calls regardless of cost, then if you find a cheaper source for those calls you are in fact saving money.

[Martin Taylor]

virgmob007@netscape.net said....

> I first got a mobile in order to avoid the high costs of having a
> landline phone, and I am not a business (if you exclude funny

How do you access the internet, then? From work, internet cafe, etc.?

And how can a mobile be cheaper than a landline, when on average, call
costs are up over 50 cents a minute? Even the dearest STD charges are
less than this from a landline.

[BG]

On Thu, 26 May 2005 11:11:15 +1000, DrKatz
<DrKatz.1pm73o@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote:
>
>Of course im still spending.

Thanks!

> who the hell doesnt spend! Are you
>suggesting we all sit at home, calculating how much money we are saving
>by not using our phones?

No, why would I suggest that? Stupid idea! Are you suggesting that?

> Or should we perhaps revert to cheaper
>alternatives? Start writing letters again, they only cost 50c...how
>much is a carrier pigeon?

Strange ideas!

>My point is, putting the select few aside who refuse to make calls to
>avoid spending money, if you are going to be making calls regardless of
>cost, then if you find a cheaper source for those calls you are in fact
>saving money.

No, you're just spending less.


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[DrKatz]

Lets not get caught up in semantics here. What you call spending less, i call saving. The "savings" on call rates i get from Revtel means i "spend less".

[BG]

DrKatz <DrKatz.1poakn@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote:
>
>Lets not get caught up in semantics here. What you call spending less, i
>call saving. The "savings" on call rates i get from Revtel means i
>"spend less".

Agree
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