CDMA signal strength

[nelly]

Hi all,
I have a Kyocera SE47 (slider) on Telstra Network. I live about 20 km from
GPO Melbourne.
I have observed in last few months signal strength displayed in form of bars
became lower. Last month I was on North West Shelf (NW Barrow Island) and
observed other people getting rather strong signals and making conversation
on different CDMA phones. Main had no signal.
When I came back to Melbourne, my phone was examined by a reputable
technician and Kyocera shop in Nunawading (or so technician told me). I was
given my phone back with answer there is nothing wrong with the phone. I was
not charged for service.
Could anyone suggest an improvement solution or I simply have a badly
designed model as far as reception is concerned.
Kind regards- nelly

[budgie]

On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:33:29 GMT, "nelly" <nelly@nospamGPO.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>I have a Kyocera SE47 (slider) on Telstra Network. I live about 20 km from
>GPO Melbourne.
>I have observed in last few months signal strength displayed in form of bars
>became lower. Last month I was on North West Shelf (NW Barrow Island) and
>observed other people getting rather strong signals and making conversation
>on different CDMA phones. Main had no signal.
>When I came back to Melbourne, my phone was examined by a reputable
>technician and Kyocera shop in Nunawading (or so technician told me). I was
>given my phone back with answer there is nothing wrong with the phone. I was
>not charged for service.
>Could anyone suggest an improvement solution or I simply have a badly
>designed model as far as reception is concerned.

My experiences with Kyocera (aka Qualcomm) CDMA phones is all good.

My experiences with cellphone service organisations are uniformly shocking,
including the veracity of their claims about where they sent the phone.

If it fails a side-by-side comparison with any contemporary CDMA phone I'd
suggest it DOES have a problem. I have an antique Qualcomm/Kyocera QCP-860
("lollipop") dual-mode (AMPS/CDMA) here which matches my current CDMA for signal
strength reporting and operating coverage.

If they can't/won't look seriously for the fault and it isn't under warranty,
it's time for a new phone.

[Michael]

"Signal strength" via bars is as useless as tits on a bull for CDMA

Does you phone work, yes or no?

"nelly" <nelly@nospamGPO.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> I have a Kyocera SE47 (slider) on Telstra Network. I live about 20 km from
> GPO Melbourne.
> I have observed in last few months signal strength displayed in form of
bars
> became lower. Last month I was on North West Shelf (NW Barrow Island) and
> observed other people getting rather strong signals and making
conversation
> on different CDMA phones. Main had no signal.
> When I came back to Melbourne, my phone was examined by a reputable
> technician and Kyocera shop in Nunawading (or so technician told me). I
was
> given my phone back with answer there is nothing wrong with the phone. I
was
> not charged for service.
> Could anyone suggest an improvement solution or I simply have a badly
> designed model as far as reception is concerned.
> Kind regards- nelly
>
>

[TA 2000]

"Signal strength" via bars is as useless as tits on a bull for CDMA

Does you phone work, yes or no?



I'd agree with that, my 2280 drops signal very quickly however still works very well even with 1 bar showing most of the time.

Cheers
Tom

[nelly]

Thanks for your answers.
Michael- to answer your question:
Here in Melbourne my phone works- as far as I can tell.
In fringe area phone is either connected to network or "Searching for
network".
If it is searching- I know there is no signal and other phones are out too.
When phone is "in range", other people make calls on different models and
mine does not connect or it does connect but connection is broken that's
when I wonder why me.
I have used Kyocera 3035 before and it worked fine, but I lost it about a
year ago and replaced it with Kyocera SE47.
I have used Telstra CDMA for about 4 years now. At the beginning we used $
250 booster until it's usage was banned- I understand boosters are still
around but "not for sale in Australia". I am not a whinger, but in my
opinion we were getting better coverage on Optus analog (until it was shut
down) than on Telstra CDMA.
I can see on eBay $10 antenna boosters- have no experience with these but
think it may be a "snake oil"- if it was OK, someone would find a way to ban
it.
Kind regards-nelly


"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Signal strength" via bars is as useless as tits on a bull for CDMA
>
> Does you phone work, yes or no?
>

[Dtrain]

Soo true... the signal strength is a load of crap,
The way CDMA works, it can combine signals from up to three towers.
So, as long as you get one bar of signal, it works!
Kyocera like to use a power saving mode. so while it sits there it
shows crap signal, now make a call... you should see the bars go up.
If you open up most cdma phones, you will see qualcomm chips.
(except nokia)



On Sat, 14 May 2005 05:03:06 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Signal strength" via bars is as useless as tits on a bull for CDMA
>
>Does you phone work, yes or no?
>

[Stinky]

On Mon, 16 May 2005 22:10:01 +0800, Dtrain <secretw@spamii.net.au>
wrote:

>Soo true... the signal strength is a load of crap,
<snip>

What a load of bullshit. CDMA in Sydney is fucking pathetic.

[ctr001@hotmail.com]

Hilariously untrue :laugh:



What is true is that CDMA can hold a call ot lower signal strengths. It
also uses multipath signals to amplify the received signal - essentialy
combining reflected signals from the same base station to get a better
end result.

[Michael]

"nelly" <nelly@nospamgpo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your answers.
> Michael- to answer your question:
> Here in Melbourne my phone works- as far as I can tell.

Ok, good.

> In fringe area phone is either connected to network or "Searching for
> network".

Ok, now in these "fringe" areas, does anyone elses CDMA work? Also, does
anyone else with the same model, work?

> If it is searching- I know there is no signal and other phones are out
too.

Ok, good

> When phone is "in range", other people make calls on different models and
> mine does not connect or it does connect but connection is broken that's
> when I wonder why me.

Ok, you may have a faulty phone. I suggest you have it checked by a repair
centre

> I have used Telstra CDMA for about 4 years now. At the beginning we used $
> 250 booster until it's usage was banned- I understand boosters are still
> around but "not for sale in Australia". I am not a whinger, but in my
> opinion we were getting better coverage on Optus analog (until it was shut
> down) than on Telstra CDMA.

You may, or may not have. However Telstra CDMA has 400% more coverage than
AMPS ever had, so there wouldnt be too many in that situation of yours