Mitsubishi's new 6G75 will outperform commodore!

[OzOne]

On Sat, 14 May 2005 20:01:12 +1000, "Dan---"
<nospa)m@203.61.241.14.com> scribbled thusly:

>"Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote in message
>news:4285c7c5@news.comindico.com.au...
>
>> It wasn't more powerful than the Falcon, nor as good at pulling it's own
>> weight.
>
>Eeven the early 3.0 litre V6 Pajero's were underpowered although the Triton
>with the same donk did better probably because it was lighter.

Ummm Dan, it's a 4WD!!!!!!


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On Sat, 14 May 2005 09:41:26 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au>
scribbled thusly:

>
><OzOne> wrote in message news:m4eb815ouq7d9v4p81elpmncuhj8c1dm3o@4ax.com...
>
>> Funny, I thought that the Mitsu engine was more powerful than the
>> others back then....aside from being smoother, quieter, more
>> responsive and economical.
>
>It wasn't more powerful than the Falcon, nor as good at pulling it's own
>weight.

Really....I've always found the Falcon to be lacking....


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On Sat, 14 May 2005 09:41:49 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au>
scribbled thusly:

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>"Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
>news:BEABF659.308D5%
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>> Actually the TJ had more power than the larger engined commodore.
>
>It was just too bad that they didn't go like they did, eh?

Bloody stopwatches Mitsu supplied when Ford tests were done.


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[kevcat]

Serialpest wrote:
>
> On 14/5/05 7:41 PM, in article 4285c7dc$1@news.comindico.com.au, "Noddy"
> <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
> > news:BEABF659.308D5%
> >
> >> Actually the TJ had more power than the larger engined commodore.
> >
> > It was just too bad that they didn't go like they did, eh?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Noddy.
> >
> >
>
> eh not. They are so quiet and smooth you don't realise how fast you're
> going. But of course you've never owned one so you wouldn't know.


lots of sound deadener, insulation and engine isolation can hide even
the most hideous engine noises and vibrations



Kev

[olley]

"Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
news:BEAC2152.308F4%HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com...
> On 14/5/05 7:41 PM, in article 4285c7dc$1@news.comindico.com.au, "Noddy"
> <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
>> news:BEABF659.308D5%
>>
>>> Actually the TJ had more power than the larger engined commodore.
>>
>> It was just too bad that they didn't go like they did, eh?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Noddy.
>>
>>
>
> eh not. They are so quiet and smooth you don't realise how fast you're
> going. But of course you've never owned one so you wouldn't know.
>

I have (the wifes car) and I have driven the 3.0L and the 3.6L you must be
joking to think they will keep up with a old Commodore let alone a new one
they were and are a underpowered heaps of shit.


olley
____

[Neil Gerace]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:1qpa81tfvbi1tlcuqr21gsntcbfjco915j@4ax.com...
> You mean it has smewhere for the air to get into the radiator and
> plastic everything like every other car built today?

Normally the holes are covered up with grilles of some sort, not just
bottomless pits, and as for the plastic, if every single car had it it would
still be ugly.

[olley]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:4q1c81hpnahijo9mrbjl72j1cd7m8984ta@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 May 2005 09:41:49 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au>
> scribbled thusly:
>
>>
>>"Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
>>news:BEABF659.308D5%
>>
>>> Actually the TJ had more power than the larger engined commodore.
>>
>>It was just too bad that they didn't go like they did, eh?
>
> Bloody stopwatches Mitsu supplied when Ford tests were done.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


The last 3.0L Magna I drove had black oil spewing out of the oil filler area
(course the seal was stuffed) I could tell the owner had just used paper
towel to clean it off the block yet the seal was not replaced on the filler
cap I suspect the reason is that it does not matter if the seal is replaced
as it repeats the same fault again in not time at all seemingly, drove it
then handed the keys back, thanks but no thanks as I had seen enough.

olley
____

[Roy Wilke]

olley wrote:

(snip)

>
> I have (the wifes car) and I have driven the 3.0L and the 3.6L you must be
> joking to think they will keep up with a old Commodore let alone a new one
> they were and are a underpowered heaps of shit.
>
>
> olley

I'd have to disagree with you there. The new Magna would definitely be
able to outperform a four-cylinder VC or VH Commodore.

[Marco]

"Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
news:BEAB940D.30893%HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com...
>>
>> Meh I have seen a slightly worked Allotec 190 V6 hit over 215 flywheel kw
>> ,
>> :-p
>>
>> But then again I don't see old farts in magna's trying to drag race
>> anyone
>> maybe Peter Wherretr though. :p
>
> Gee that¹s not very much for such a high tech engine. Did it sound
> wonderfully unrefined like the old supercharged V6 did?

Yeah, no it's only a tad under 60kW/litre after all......idiot.

[Marco]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:r3a981915okv567p8n5q69l0qt8k9s3t80@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 May 2005 20:42:16 +1000, "Justin Thyme"
> <pleasedontspamme@nowhere.com> scribbled thusly:
>
>>but will it outsell commodore??
>>
>
> Hopefully not...that way the quality will still be superb.

Does the plant even have the capacity to build the 8-9000 cars a month it
would need to outsell Commodore? You wouldn't think so, just on the basis
of previous numbers.

(Not trolling here, just saying that even if enough people wanted to buy
Magnas they'd never be able to make enough of them to outsell the
Commodore).

[Marco]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:diha81p509ibje6idjmnbi2tnc625cbm8u@4ax.com...
>
> Actually Rod, even when they had one of the best looking cars of the
> day, the TE,TF and right thru to the TJ, they still didn't sell well.
> Oz buyers are apparently reluctant to buy quality.

The earlier cars sold well enough when they were still fresh and new, it has
to be said.

FWIW, about two weeks ago a mate of mine took me for a drive in his new
Verada and I have to say it was a pretty impressive ride. I don't know what
it's like to drive, but it seemed to do the job as far as being a
semi-luxury model goes. Quiet, smooth, and comfortable.

[Marco]

"Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
news:BEAC2152.308F4%HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com...
>
> eh not. They are so quiet and smooth you don't realise how fast you're
> going. But of course you've never owned one so you wouldn't know.

Didn't they come with a speedo?

[Noddy]

"Serialpest" <HSVSUX@ihatecommodores.com> wrote in message
news:BEAC2152.308F4%

> eh not. They are so quiet and smooth you don't realise how fast you're
> going.

Only if the speedo's not working.

> But of course you've never owned one so you wouldn't know.

You wouldn't have the slightest idea what I've owned.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Noddy]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:2o1c81lr258pngie2il933pvucanmrrai6@4ax.com...

> Really....I've always found the Falcon to be lacking....

Yeah, I have too in certain areas, but as a tow vehicle they're generally
very good.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[OzOne]

On Sat, 14 May 2005 14:40:00 GMT, kevcat <kevcat@dodo.com.au>
scribbled thusly:
>
>lots of sound deadener, insulation and engine isolation can hide even
>the most hideous engine noises and vibrations
>
>
>
>Kev

Holden haven't managed it with their VZ


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[OzOne]

On Sat, 14 May 2005 17:01:41 GMT, "olley" <nospamplz@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:

>I have (the wifes car) and I have driven the 3.0L and the 3.6L you must be
>joking to think they will keep up with a old Commodore let alone a new one
>they were and are a underpowered heaps of shit.
>
>
>olley
>____
>

It's a 3.5 and yess, it was quicker than the Holden back then....you
could always check some roadtests.


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[OzOne]

On Sun, 15 May 2005 01:07:11 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
<geracen@iinet.net.au> scribbled thusly:

><OzOne> wrote in message news:1qpa81tfvbi1tlcuqr21gsntcbfjco915j@4ax.com...
>> You mean it has smewhere for the air to get into the radiator and
>> plastic everything like every other car built today?
>
>Normally the holes are covered up with grilles of some sort, not just
>bottomless pits, and as for the plastic, if every single car had it it would
>still be ugly.
>

You can tell that from one underexposed front shot?
Take a look at any car built today,,,front and rear are plastic,,,have
been for years.


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[OzOne]

On Sat, 14 May 2005 17:10:56 GMT, "olley" <nospamplz@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:
>The last 3.0L Magna I drove had black oil spewing out of the oil filler area
>(course the seal was stuffed) I could tell the owner had just used paper
>towel to clean it off the block yet the seal was not replaced on the filler
>cap I suspect the reason is that it does not matter if the seal is replaced
>as it repeats the same fault again in not time at all seemingly, drove it
>then handed the keys back, thanks but no thanks as I had seen enough.
>
>olley
>____
>

And this indicates what?
That a '97 car can have a dud seal on an oil filler and that someone
could be silly enough not to replace it?

You did a good thing walking away...if they can't be bothered changing
a filer gasket, what else has not been done.


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[Dan---]

"Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote in message
news:42868608$1@news.comindico.com.au...
>

>
> You wouldn't have the slightest idea what I've owned.

Hey why not we all buy a Magna and at the end of the day inject ourselves
with poison to finish the job.
:-p


--
Regards Dan
I dont use comindico ISP's.

[OzOne]

On Sun, 15 May 2005 08:30:23 +1000, "Marco" <rbgemini@iprimus.com.au>
scribbled thusly:

>
><OzOne> wrote in message news:diha81p509ibje6idjmnbi2tnc625cbm8u@4ax.com...
>>
>> Actually Rod, even when they had one of the best looking cars of the
>> day, the TE,TF and right thru to the TJ, they still didn't sell well.
>> Oz buyers are apparently reluctant to buy quality.
>
>The earlier cars sold well enough when they were still fresh and new, it has
>to be said.
>
>FWIW, about two weeks ago a mate of mine took me for a drive in his new
>Verada and I have to say it was a pretty impressive ride. I don't know what
>it's like to drive, but it seemed to do the job as far as being a
>semi-luxury model goes. Quiet, smooth, and comfortable.
>

Yep, I looked at a couple of AWD Veradas last week.
Owned by Mitsu, they had 11,000 km on them and were both under $30k.


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