Judges salaries

[Caligula]

"Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> writes:

> The judges in Indonesia only make $7000 per year unlike their Australian
> counterparts who make lots ... around $70,000?

LOL !
Nobody would work for that sort of pay !
Plumbers and bricklayers earn more than that.

Even a local court magistrate in Australia gets over 200K
At the High Court of Australia, they are paid close to 500K.

SUPREME COURT
Chief Justice 325,950
Senior Puisne Judge 297776
Puisne Judge 288,962
Senior Master of the Supreme Court 267,780
Master of the Supreme Court 260,065

DISTRICT COURT
Chief Judge District Court 288,962
Senior Judge District Court 267,780
Judge District Court 260,065

LOCAL COURT
Chief Stipendiary Magistrate 234,058
Deputy Chief Stipendiary Magistrate 221,055
Principal Registrar/Stipendiary Magistrate Family Court 221,055
Stipendiary Magistrates 208,053
Registrars/Stipendiary Magistrates Family Court 208,053

http://www.sat.wa.gov.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=judiciary.item_20041201

[Gregory Toomey]

Caligula wrote:

> "Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> writes:
>
>> The judges in Indonesia only make $7000 per year unlike their Australian
>> counterparts who make lots ... around $70,000?
>
> LOL !
> Nobody would work for that sort of pay !
> Plumbers and bricklayers earn more than that.

We're in a housing boom at the moment here in Queensland.
There's a 6 month waiting list to get a plumber or bricklayer to build a
house, but to see a doctor you only need to wait a few days!

Tradesmaen earning $100K would be the norm.

gtoomey

[hadda hadda]

"Gregory Toomey" <nosmam@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:42993bc8@news.comindico.com.au...
> Caligula wrote:
>
> > "Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> writes:
> >
> >> The judges in Indonesia only make $7000 per year unlike their
Australian
> >> counterparts who make lots ... around $70,000?
> >
> > LOL !
> > Nobody would work for that sort of pay !
> > Plumbers and bricklayers earn more than that.
>
> We're in a housing boom at the moment here in Queensland.
> There's a 6 month waiting list to get a plumber or bricklayer to build a
> house, but to see a doctor you only need to wait a few days!
>
> Tradesmaen earning $100K would be the norm.

You are right there " earning $100K..."
For that, you have to be well qualified, very experienced and most of all,
be lucky enough to be physically very strong.
They work very long hours including weekends.

Housing boom will be soon over and tradesmen will work for $21,or less, per
hour again.
Stupidity boom will never be over. We will never get rid of the parasites
"earning" $1M plus.

[Caligula]

Gregory Toomey <nosmam@bigpond.com> writes:

> We're in a housing boom at the moment here in Queensland.
> There's a 6 month waiting list to get a plumber or bricklayer to build a
> house, but to see a doctor you only need to wait a few days!

Should move to Sydney.
The waiting time to see a doctor is around 5 to 10 minutes.

[Caligula]

"hadda hadda" <draw.hotmail.com> writes:

>> Tradesmaen earning $100K would be the norm.
>
> You are right there " earning $100K..."
> For that, you have to be well qualified, very experienced and most of all,
> be lucky enough to be physically very strong.

Bricklayers are charging around 2 to 3 dollars to lay ONE brick.

[Caligula]

"hadda hadda" <draw.hotmail.com> writes:

>> There's a 6 month waiting list to get a plumber or bricklayer to build a
>> house

Here in Sydney, I got a bricklayer in around 3 days, but I had to pay a ridiculous
amount.

I was moving my office and I had to get a door and a window bricked up
to keep the council happy (fireproofing ).
It cost me around $1000 instead of the $400 or so that it would have cost
if I had been able to get it done at leisure.

[Knights Templar]

"Caligula" <rambam@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:877jhiyb67.fsf_-_@kafka.homenet...
> "Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> writes:
>
>> The judges in Indonesia only make $7000 per year unlike their Australian
>> counterparts who make lots ... around $70,000?
>
> LOL !
> Nobody would work for that sort of pay !
> Plumbers and bricklayers earn more than that.
>
> Even a local court magistrate in Australia gets over 200K
> At the High Court of Australia, they are paid close to 500K.
>
> SUPREME COURT
> Chief Justice 325,950
> Senior Puisne Judge 297776
> Puisne Judge 288,962
> Senior Master of the Supreme Court 267,780
> Master of the Supreme Court 260,065
>
> DISTRICT COURT
> Chief Judge District Court 288,962
> Senior Judge District Court 267,780
> Judge District Court 260,065
>
> LOCAL COURT
> Chief Stipendiary Magistrate 234,058
> Deputy Chief Stipendiary Magistrate 221,055
> Principal Registrar/Stipendiary Magistrate Family Court 221,055
> Stipendiary Magistrates 208,053
> Registrars/Stipendiary Magistrates Family Court 208,053
>
> http://www.sat.wa.gov.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=judiciary.item_20041201

[Knights Templar]

"Caligula" <rambam@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:877jhiyb67.fsf_-_@kafka.homenet...
> "Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> writes:
>
>> The judges in Indonesia only make $7000 per year unlike their Australian
>> counterparts who make lots ... around $70,000?
>
> LOL !
> Nobody would work for that sort of pay !
> Plumbers and bricklayers earn more than that.
>
> Even a local court magistrate in Australia gets over 200K
> At the High Court of Australia, they are paid close to 500K.
>
> SUPREME COURT
> Chief Justice 325,950
> Senior Puisne Judge 297776
> Puisne Judge 288,962
> Senior Master of the Supreme Court 267,780
> Master of the Supreme Court 260,065
>
> DISTRICT COURT
> Chief Judge District Court 288,962
> Senior Judge District Court 267,780
> Judge District Court 260,065
>
> LOCAL COURT
> Chief Stipendiary Magistrate 234,058
> Deputy Chief Stipendiary Magistrate 221,055
> Principal Registrar/Stipendiary Magistrate Family Court 221,055
> Stipendiary Magistrates 208,053
> Registrars/Stipendiary Magistrates Family Court 208,053
>
> http://www.sat.wa.gov.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=judiciary.item_20041201
Federal politicians secure 4pc pay rise
11:43 AM May 30

A federal member of Parliament says she is disgusted by a pay rise MP's will
receive from July 1.

The Remuneration Tribunal has increased the base salary for federal
politicians by just over 4 per cent in its annual review.

The change means federal MPs salaries will increase from $106,000 a year to
$111,000.

Labor MP Julia Irwin says she will spend the money in her electorate.

"I give thousands of dollars to various charities within my electorate and
yes, my people will be benefiting from my increase," she said.

[Sylvia Else]

Knights Templar wrote:

> "Caligula" <rambam@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:877jhiyb67.fsf_-_@kafka.homenet...
>
>>"Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> writes:
>>
>>
>>>The judges in Indonesia only make $7000 per year unlike their Australian
>>>counterparts who make lots ... around $70,000?
>>
>>LOL !
>>Nobody would work for that sort of pay !
>>Plumbers and bricklayers earn more than that.
>>
>>Even a local court magistrate in Australia gets over 200K
>>At the High Court of Australia, they are paid close to 500K.
>>

And they take a pay cut when they become judges. These are people who
could earn serious money in private practice. Thus we get judges who are
committed to the practice of law, rather than people who are just in it
for the cash.

Sylvia.

[Caligula]

Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> writes:

>>>Even a local court magistrate in Australia gets over 200K
>>>At the High Court of Australia, they are paid close to 500K.
>>>
>
> And they take a pay cut when they become judges. These are people who
> could earn serious money in private practice.

That is true.

For instance, Justice Kirby's CV is enough to make anyone green with envy.

[H Dickmann]

"Caligula" <rambam@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:87is0y9t9c.fsf@kafka.homenet...
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> writes:
>
>>>>Even a local court magistrate in Australia gets over 200K
>>>>At the High Court of Australia, they are paid close to 500K.
>>>>
>>
>> And they take a pay cut when they become judges. These are people who
>> could earn serious money in private practice.
>
> That is true.
>
> For instance, Justice Kirby's CV is enough to make anyone green with envy.

According to John Howard, all those poor people need a tax cut more than the
ordinary worker.

[Caligula]

"H Dickmann" <HERPEM@bigpond.com> writes:

>> For instance, Justice Kirby's CV is enough to make anyone green with envy.
>
> According to John Howard, all those poor people need a tax cut more than the
> ordinary worker.

Kirby is a lot more necessary to the functioning of Australia than the ordinary worker.

[Little Johnny Howard]

Sylvia Else wrote:
> Knights Templar wrote:
>
> > "Caligula" <rambam@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:877jhiyb67.fsf_-_@kafka.homenet...
> >
> >>"Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The judges in Indonesia only make $7000 per year unlike their Australian
> >>>counterparts who make lots ... around $70,000?
> >>
> >>LOL !
> >>Nobody would work for that sort of pay !
> >>Plumbers and bricklayers earn more than that.
> >>
> >>Even a local court magistrate in Australia gets over 200K
> >>At the High Court of Australia, they are paid close to 500K.
> >>
>
> And they take a pay cut when they become judges. These are people who
> could earn serious money in private practice. Thus we get judges who are
> committed to the practice of law, rather than people who are just in it
> for the cash.

Is that right? Funny, I remember one prick who rang up the Attorney
Generel's HR department to complain his renumeration was out by 20c! I
wonder how long it took him to calculate that. And then there was the
twit who repeatedly tried to browse porn sites. He didn't get very far
but it was all logged and used against him. But talk to their
tipstaffs. They have the best gossip.

Oh, and don't forget the judges' wives. They also get a nice, fat
pension.

[Sylvia Else]

Little Johnny Howard wrote:

> Is that right? Funny, I remember one prick who rang up the Attorney
> Generel's HR department to complain his renumeration was out by 20c! I
> wonder how long it took him to calculate that. And then there was the
> twit who repeatedly tried to browse porn sites. He didn't get very far
> but it was all logged and used against him. But talk to their
> tipstaffs. They have the best gossip.

You have documentation for these allegations?

Sylvia.

[Little Johnny Howard]

Sylvia Else wrote:
> Little Johnny Howard wrote:
>
> > Is that right? Funny, I remember one prick who rang up the Attorney
> > Generel's HR department to complain his renumeration was out by 20c! I
> > wonder how long it took him to calculate that. And then there was the
> > twit who repeatedly tried to browse porn sites. He didn't get very far
> > but it was all logged and used against him. But talk to their
> > tipstaffs. They have the best gossip.
>
> You have documentation for these allegations?

They aren't allegations. I used to work there. The best one I remember
was the bitch at the NSW Supreme Court that was too lazy to open here
own blinds. She called someone to summon her tipstaff to her chambers
and told him to do it. The blinds were right behind her desk.

[fasgnadh]

Sylvia Else wrote:
>


# Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:14:51 +1000
# From: Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address>
# Newsgroups: aus.politics,aus.legal
# Subject: Re: true-blues prefer progressive taxes.. A Fair Go For All
# was Re: Regressive or progressive?
# Message-ID: <4286e8db$0$4656$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
#
# > In that case stick to a lifestyle centred on taking your
# > clothes off..
# ...
# > most infants master it at birth!
#
# Then it gets beaten out of them.
#
# Sylvia.


# From: n...@arthur.valhalla.oz (Ned Latham)
# Message-ID: <427318AC.11D3@arthur.valhalla.oz>
# Newsgroups: aus.politics,aus.services.defence
# Subject:Re:Desecration-Political Disgrace defends National Disgrace
# Date: 30 Apr 2005 15:09:31 +0950
#
# "Kwyjibo." wrote in <Xns9647CF2D231D8ddd...@203.26.24.228>:
# > Ned Latham said:
# >
# > The biggest problem I see is teachers pushing their own social
# > ideals on students.
#
# Yep. AFAIC, that's child abuse.


>
> You have documentation for these allegations?
>
> Sylvia.

[Zephir Woodwood]

For the ignorant, what are tipstaff?

[Caligula]

"Zephir Woodwood" <zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> writes:

> For the ignorant, what are tipstaff?

It is a naughty word. :-)

"Tipstaves
The primary duty of the Tipstaff is to act as a personal and confidential attendant to the Judge to whom he or she is appointed and to carry out tasks in accordance with the Judge's directions. Masters do not have Tipstaves. Generally the duties of the Tipstaff involve two areas - Court work and Chambers work. In Court, Tipstaves have key duties concerning witnesses and jurors and in Chambers they maintain the Judge's library and attend to a range of other needs.

The position of Tipstaff in the Courts of law has its origin in the 14th century. The official of those times was responsible for apprehending persons who had defied the Orders of the Court and subsequently delivering them into custody. These duties required travel throughout the countryside."

http://supremecourt.vic.gov.au/CA256CC60028922C/page/About+the+Court-Court+Structure-Associates+and+Tipstaves?OpenDocument&1=10-About+the+Court~&2=10-Court+Structure~&3=15-Associates+and+Tipstaves~

[Zephir Woodwood]

Thank you