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Zephir Woodwood

11-06-2005, 03:43 PM

Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.

http://news.individual.net/index.php

Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the cost
in AUD?

Keith Gow

11-06-2005, 04:03 PM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:34:11 GMT, "Zephir Woodwood"
<zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> waxed lyrical:

>Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>
>http://news.individual.net/index.php
>
>Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
>Good points?

In the years I've been using it as my news server, I think there has
been one or two moments of downtime. Otherwise it has been flawless.

>Bad points?

It costs money.

>Can all aus. groups be accessed?

Yes, I believe so.

>What is the cost
>in AUD?

I think it translates to about $15 per annum, which I happily paid
for. But with my decreasing use of Usenet, I probably won't pay again
this time next year.

-- Keith Gow --

http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/

Little Johnny Howard

11-06-2005, 04:03 PM

Zephir Woodwood wrote:
> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>
> http://news.individual.net/index.php
>
> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
> Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the cost
> in AUD?

Its mostly crap. The link between here and there is very slow. About
2-3 times slower than a local newsserver. It seems to take a long while
for a submitted post to be accepted too.

They don't carry all news groups (especially no binaries). For a long
time there was bug where a non-carried newsgroup in a post's newsgroup
list meant you could even read the post in a carried newsgroup (your
newsreader would report the post as invalid). I think this has been
fixed recently. They also filter all posts to block incoming and
outgoing spam. It also means you may not see some legitimate posts and
some of yours may get cancelled.

The staff aren't very responsive. The euro cost is high in AUD. You can
check the current exchange rate at http://www.xe.com/ucc/

There are better and cheaper alternatives in the US. Giganews, for
example. Astraweb is crap.

Zephir Woodwood

11-06-2005, 04:23 PM

"Little Johnny Howard" <pmjwhoward@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1118465889.952114.321070@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Zephir Woodwood wrote:
>> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>>
>> http://news.individual.net/index.php
>>
>> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
>> Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the
>> cost
>> in AUD?
>
> Its mostly crap. The link between here and there is very slow. About
> 2-3 times slower than a local newsserver. It seems to take a long while
> for a submitted post to be accepted too.
>
> They don't carry all news groups (especially no binaries). For a long
> time there was bug where a non-carried newsgroup in a post's newsgroup
> list meant you could even read the post in a carried newsgroup (your
> newsreader would report the post as invalid). I think this has been
> fixed recently. They also filter all posts to block incoming and
> outgoing spam. It also means you may not see some legitimate posts and
> some of yours may get cancelled.
>
> The staff aren't very responsive. The euro cost is high in AUD. You can
> check the current exchange rate at http://www.xe.com/ucc/
>
> There are better and cheaper alternatives in the US. Giganews, for
> example. Astraweb is crap.

Thanks for the analysis...much appreciated

Dyna Soar

11-06-2005, 04:44 PM

Little Johnny Howard wrote:
> Zephir Woodwood wrote:
>> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.

>> http://news.individual.net/index.php

>> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any
>> good? Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What
>> is the cost in AUD?
>
> Its mostly crap. The link between here and there is very slow. About
> 2-3 times slower than a local newsserver.

Slightly slower than my ISP, but still very fast.

> It seems to take a long
> while for a submitted post to be accepted too.

Bullshit.

> They don't carry all news groups (especially no binaries).

True, but they make no secret of this.

> For a long
> time there was bug where a non-carried newsgroup in a post's newsgroup
> list meant you could even read the post in a carried newsgroup (your
> newsreader would report the post as invalid). I think this has been
> fixed recently.

So it no longer has any bearing...

> They also filter all posts to block incoming and
> outgoing spam. It also means you may not see some legitimate posts and
> some of yours may get cancelled.

Never had any of the above cause any problems in the four years or so I've
been using it.

> The staff aren't very responsive.

I've only ever made one query to them and received a reply by email about
three hours later.

> The euro cost is high in AUD. You
> can check the current exchange rate at http://www.xe.com/ucc/
> There are better and cheaper alternatives in the US. Giganews, for
> example.

Giganews is excellent, but cheaper? The cheapest Giganews plan is US$7.99
per month, which equates to about AUD$10.50 a month which is AUD$126 per
annum. (It's dearest plan is US$24.99 a month or almost AUD$33 a month
getting close to $390 a year) Individual is 10 Euro or about AUD$16 per
annum, which makes Giganews cheapest plan almost eight times the cost of
Individual. If you intend downloading lots of binaries and have deep
pockets, Giganews is the way to go, but for normal day to day text
newsgroups, Individual is by far the better value for money.

--
Dyna

All Rights Reserved. All Wrongs Avenged.

Ian Galbraith

11-06-2005, 05:03 PM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:15:23 GMT, Zephir Woodwood wrote:

> "Little Johnny Howard" <pmjwhoward@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1118465889.952114.321070@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Zephir Woodwood wrote:
>>> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>>>
>>> http://news.individual.net/index.php
>>>
>>> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
>>> Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the
>>> cost
>>> in AUD?
>>
>> Its mostly crap. The link between here and there is very slow. About
>> 2-3 times slower than a local newsserver. It seems to take a long while
>> for a submitted post to be accepted too.
>>
>> They don't carry all news groups (especially no binaries). For a long
>> time there was bug where a non-carried newsgroup in a post's newsgroup
>> list meant you could even read the post in a carried newsgroup (your
>> newsreader would report the post as invalid). I think this has been
>> fixed recently. They also filter all posts to block incoming and
>> outgoing spam. It also means you may not see some legitimate posts and
>> some of yours may get cancelled.
>>
>> The staff aren't very responsive. The euro cost is high in AUD. You can
>> check the current exchange rate at http://www.xe.com/ucc/
>>
>> There are better and cheaper alternatives in the US. Giganews, for
>> example. Astraweb is crap.
>
> Thanks for the analysis...much appreciated

He's wrong, the cost is 10 Euros per annum which is approx $15 so its not
high. It doesn't take a long time for a post to be accepted, mine take no
time at all. Yes the connection time is long but thats ebcause they're in
Europr. Its not that long though, it doesn't trouble me at all unlike some
web forums. They do only carry text newsgroups not binaries but thats the
service they're operating.

I would say in general the service is excellent.

John_H

11-06-2005, 07:13 PM

Zephir Woodwood wrote:

>Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>
>http://news.individual.net/index.php
>
>Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?

If you can't read this they're sus. :)

It's been very, very good over the two or three years I've been using
it. Especially when compared to my own ISP's news server (Bogpond).

>Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the cost
>in AUD?

No binaries (bless 'em), otherwise an excellent range (currently
23,785 groups). AFAIK all aus. groups are there.

You must use a valid email address (no munging), which is easily
accomodated.

$17.36 pa at the exchange rate prevailing at the time it ceased to be
free.

--
John H

Allan Mikkelsen

11-06-2005, 07:33 PM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:15:23 GMT, "Zephir Woodwood"
<zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Little Johnny Howard" <pmjwhoward@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1118465889.952114.321070@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

>> There are better and cheaper alternatives in the US. Giganews, for
>> example. Astraweb is crap.

Only someone going under the name Little Johnny Howard could think that
$US7.99 per month is cheaper than Eur10 per year!

>Thanks for the analysis...much appreciated

Given that it was 99.99% total bullshit and wrong, appreciate it, but take
absolutely no notice of it!

Stuart Naylor

11-06-2005, 07:33 PM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:34:11 GMT, "Zephir Woodwood"
<zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>
>http://news.individual.net/index.php
>
>Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
>Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the cost
>in AUD?

I've used them free for years so I had no hesitation in paying. They
provide excellent coverage of text groups, cost was $AUD17.77.
--

Stuart

Darkfalz

11-06-2005, 08:23 PM

Big LN

11-06-2005, 09:33 PM

"Zephir Woodwood" <zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7Rtqe.13213$F7.2532@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>
> http://news.individual.net/index.php
>
> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
> Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the cost
> in AUD?

Why pay?
Just use aioe.cjb.net
It's free. No registration. No userid nor password. Encrypted IP address.
Just type aioe.cjb.net in the server name and you're in. It's that simple.

'Onya

Astro

11-06-2005, 09:33 PM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:23:58 +1000, "Big LN" <BigLN@this.ng> wrote:

>"Zephir Woodwood" <zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7Rtqe.13213$F7.2532@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>>
>> http://news.individual.net/index.php
>>
>> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
>> Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the cost
>> in AUD?
>
>Why pay?
>Just use aioe.cjb.net
>It's free. No registration. No userid nor password. Encrypted IP address.
>Just type aioe.cjb.net in the server name and you're in. It's that simple.
>
>'Onya
>

Buy that man a New!

Big LN

11-06-2005, 09:33 PM

"Astro" <none@noway.com> wrote in message
news:35fla15q0ci7l54ngigll5lktm2ndplojq@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:23:58 +1000, "Big LN" <BigLN@this.ng> wrote:
>
>>"Zephir Woodwood" <zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7Rtqe.13213$F7.2532@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>>>
>>> http://news.individual.net/index.php
>>>
>>> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
>>> Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the
>>> cost
>>> in AUD?
>>
>>Why pay?
>>Just use aioe.cjb.net
>>It's free. No registration. No userid nor password. Encrypted IP address.
>>Just type aioe.cjb.net in the server name and you're in. It's that simple.
>>
>>'Onya
>>
>
> Buy that man a New!

Still waiting for the Guiness.

'Onya

Astro

11-06-2005, 09:53 PM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:30:38 +1000, "Big LN" <BigLN@this.ng> wrote:

>> Buy that man a New!
>
>Still waiting for the Guiness.
>
>'Onya

Sorry mate, when drank it all at your mum's b/day party when you were
outta town that time!

See pics here http://tinyurl.com/7s24r

Onya

Highlandish

11-06-2005, 10:13 PM

Quoth The Raven "Astro"<none@noway.com> in
7cfla1d6ji10oc1ce345io72t0jkb6j4hl@4ax.com
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:30:38 +1000, "Big LN" <BigLN@this.ng> wrote:
>
>>> Buy that man a New!
>>
>>Still waiting for the Guiness.
>>
>>'Onya
>
>
> Sorry mate, when drank it all at your mum's b/day party when you were
> outta town that time!
>
> See pics here http://tinyurl.com/7s24r
>
> Onya

that there your kin folk?

--
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it. - Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)

Take out the _CURSEING to reply to me

Highlandish

11-06-2005, 10:13 PM

Quoth The Raven "Highlandish"<ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> in
42aac5ae$0$18645$14726298@news.sunsite.dk
> Quoth The Raven "Astro"<none@noway.com> in
> 7cfla1d6ji10oc1ce345io72t0jkb6j4hl@4ax.com
>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:30:38 +1000, "Big LN" <BigLN@this.ng> wrote:
>>
>>>> Buy that man a New!
>>>
>>>Still waiting for the Guiness.
>>>
>>>'Onya
>>
>>
>> Sorry mate, when drank it all at your mum's b/day party when you were
>> outta town that time!
>>
>> See pics here http://tinyurl.com/7s24r
>>
>> Onya
>
> that there your kin folk?

I can imagine the deliverance theme playing in the background

--
I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere !

Take out the _CURSEING to reply to me

Zephir Woodwood

11-06-2005, 10:23 PM

"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:42aac6e9$0$18641$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
> Quoth The Raven "Highlandish"<ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> in
> 42aac5ae$0$18645$14726298@news.sunsite.dk
>> Quoth The Raven "Astro"<none@noway.com> in
>> 7cfla1d6ji10oc1ce345io72t0jkb6j4hl@4ax.com
>>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:30:38 +1000, "Big LN" <BigLN@this.ng> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Buy that man a New!
>>>>
>>>>Still waiting for the Guiness.
>>>>
>>>>'Onya
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry mate, when drank it all at your mum's b/day party when you were
>>> outta town that time!
>>>
>>> See pics here http://tinyurl.com/7s24r

The root directory at http://users.bigpond.net.au/bandito/ is very
interesting <not for children>

Phred

11-06-2005, 10:33 PM

"Analysis"? It was unmitigated crap spewed out by an ignorant twit
who probably has never used the service. The only useful info in his
diatribe was the bit about binaries not being carried, if that means
anything to you.

In article <Lruqe.13247$F7.11685@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, "Zephir
Woodwood" <zwnospam1965@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Little Johnny Howard" <pmjwhoward@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1118465889.952114.321070@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Zephir Woodwood wrote:
>>> Hi, I saw somewhere recently a description of this product.
>>>
>>> http://news.individual.net/index.php
>>>
>>> Can anyone who has paid and uses the service describe if it is any good?
>>> Good points? Bad points? Can all aus. groups be accessed? What is the
>>> cost in AUD?
>>
>> Its mostly crap. The link between here and there is very slow. About
>> 2-3 times slower than a local newsserver. It seems to take a long while
>> for a submitted post to be accepted too.
>>
>> They don't carry all news groups (especially no binaries). For a long
>> time there was bug where a non-carried newsgroup in a post's newsgroup
>> list meant you could even read the post in a carried newsgroup (your
>> newsreader would report the post as invalid). I think this has been
>> fixed recently. They also filter all posts to block incoming and
>> outgoing spam. It also means you may not see some legitimate posts and
>> some of yours may get cancelled.
>>
>> The staff aren't very responsive. The euro cost is high in AUD. You can
>> check the current exchange rate at http://www.xe.com/ucc/
>>
>> There are better and cheaper alternatives in the US. Giganews, for
>> example. Astraweb is crap.
>
>Thanks for the analysis...much appreciated

Cheers, Phred.

--
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AJS

12-06-2005, 02:43 AM

F1refly

12-06-2005, 02:53 AM

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rr6la11kic97vncp02hu2on9i9ttngjikv@4ax.com...
> $17.36 pa at the exchange rate prevailing at the time it ceased to be
> free.

$15.91 right now.

news.x-privat.org is $15.91 per annum cheaper.