LCD panels only get better and better

[DAVO]

Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
for all the LCD knockers.

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357


DAVO

[Zappy]

"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO

Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.

[David Z]

If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.

"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO
>
>

[acalcium]

David Z wrote:
> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>

That's what they said about the horse and buggy.

[Kissing Lettuce]

Zappy wrote:

> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> > and
> > they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> > for all the LCD knockers.
> >
> > http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
> >
> >
> > DAVO
>
> Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.



Really?

Care to cite a reference for this assumption

[AnthonyP69]

You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!

This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
plasma.

Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......

[lcdsareboriganddull@badfromsideontoo.com]

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:26:00 GMT, "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>for all the LCD knockers.
>
>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
>DAVO
>

only 37 inches.... sorry too small....
and no side by side comparison with anything...plasma or lcd...

all we have here is a Toshiba sales blurb....

complete wanking........for complete wankers......

[Rob]

AnthonyP69 wrote:
> You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
> effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
> fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!
>
> This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
> plasma.
>
> Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
> technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......
>

Huh? Sharp have had an impressive 1920x1080 res LCD TV out for months
now. Costs around $9.5K (street price) though!

<http://www.sharp.net.au/catalogue/productinfo.asp?model=LC45G1XSYS>

[Imolator]

Hey Anthonyp69 crt technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
plasma.

Since when has crt followed Moores's law, this is a ludacris statement. Every 18mthts twice as fast and 1/2 the price. :) Lcd has its advantages size and energy consumption being just two, but crt has been a stagnent technology for a fair while now.

[Allan]

"acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
news:42c774f0@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> David Z wrote:
>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>>
>
> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.

and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:>

But really the CRT is a far better format...

Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg Plasmas
around 10,000 hours of use...

Technology for the sake of technology...

As David said, If it ain't broke....

[DVD Cases]

"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO
>
>

work is currently being done on improving the CRT part of
widescreen CRTs so that an 80cm TV would have a
depth of only 30cm.

Supposedly the first models will appear around XMAS 05

CD

[Dyna Soar]

Allan wrote:
> "acalcium" wrote
>> David Z wrote:

>>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.

>> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.

> and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:>

> But really the CRT is a far better format...

> Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg
> Plasmas around 10,000 hours of use...

> Technology for the sake of technology...

> As David said, If it ain't broke....

OK. I wonder how I'd fit a CRT monitor under the lid of my laptop?

--
Dyna

All Rights Reserved. All Wrongs Avenged.

[Gordon]

"acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
news:42c774f0@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> David Z wrote:
>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>>
>
> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.
Not really a valid comparison , now, is it?
G

[Zappy]

"Kissing Lettuce" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:42C76E29.DC69585B@internode.on.net...
> Zappy wrote:
>
>> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> > Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD
>> > panels
>> > and
>> > they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep
>> > at
>> > for all the LCD knockers.
>> >
>> > http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>> >
>> >
>> > DAVO
>>
>> Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
>
>
>
> Really?
>
> Care to cite a reference for this assumption

If I made an assumption, I wouldn't need a reference.

If it's a fact, then I am not making an assumption.

Goodness me, were you asleep the day they taught clear thinking at primary
school?

>
>
>

[Dyna Soar]

Zappy wrote:
> "Kissing Lettuce" wrote
>> Zappy wrote:

>> Care to cite a reference for this assumption

> If I made an assumption, I wouldn't need a reference.

> If it's a fact, then I am not making an assumption.

> Goodness me, were you asleep the day they taught clear thinking at
> primary school?

JDL doesn't start primary school until next year...


--
Dyna

All Rights Reserved. All Wrongs Avenged.

[RB]

Kissing Lettuce wrote:
> Zappy wrote:
>
>
>>"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
>>>and
>>>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>>>for all the LCD knockers.
>>>
>>>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>>
>>>
>>>DAVO
>>
>>Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
>
>
>
>
> Really?
>
> Care to cite a reference for this assumption


I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.

[kubalister]

AnthonyP69 wrote:
> You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
> effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
> fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!

Sorry to have to break the news to you, but I'm typing this response
whilst viewing a 23" LCD display with a resolution of 1920x1200. Quite a
few manufacturers have now released large 1920x1080 res LCD displays
including Samsung with its 82 inch 1920x1080 res display:
http://www.physorg.com/news3271.html
Samsung 46 and 57 inch HDTV (1920x1080) LCD displays are already
available for purchase.
Sharp also has a lineup of 1920x1080 res LCD displays.
In fact there are now more full HDTV 1920x1080 capable LCD displays
available on the market than plasma displays.

> This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
> plasma.
>
> Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
> technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......

[Mike]

I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
viewing. But the plasma picture has more natural look about it, the LCD
looks a little harsh and garish in its colours compared to plasma. And the
refresh rate, 16ms which is fairly standard amongst the middle range LCD's,
is completely hopeless for fast moving action shots like the tennis,
especially if there is high contrast between the moving subject and the
background - not a good look - in fact it really sucks - if I had known how
bad this is I would not have bought the LCD.

So as I see it LCD are nice but wanting is some areas, no doubt the LCD
supporters will cry foul over this but if your want an LCD screen 40" plus
in size and a refresh rate of no more than 8ms to get rid of the nasty pixel
lag, you are talking big bucks compared with an equivalent plasma. The
plasmas aint perfect but they deliver much more bang for the buck. As we
constantly hear from the LCD camp, they are getting better and better, sure
but who says plasma is not being enhanced as well. For me flatscreen
widescreen is optimally big screen and LCD's are not within a bull's roar of
plasmas pricewise. Next time the LCD camp rushes out and promotes the
latest and greatest, how about a price to go with it to see how that stacks
up with an equivalent plasma.


"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO
>
>

[Kissing Lettuce]

RB wrote:

> Kissing Lettuce wrote:
> > Zappy wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>
> >>>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> >>>and
> >>>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> >>>for all the LCD knockers.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>DAVO
> >>
> >>Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Really?
> >
> > Care to cite a reference for this assumption
>
> I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
> a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
> Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.



Fair enough but if they were such a scam why were
they hyped as the "next big thing" in the first place?

[Gordon]

"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:42c774f0@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> David Z wrote:
>>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>>>
>>
>> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.
>
> and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:>
>
> But really the CRT is a far better format...
>
> Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg Plasmas
> around 10,000 hours of use...
>
> Technology for the sake of technology...
>
> As David said, If it ain't broke....
As much as I no disagrement that crt projection is the way to go from the
quality point of view, to say that they have no limitations in terms of tube
life is in imo incorrect.If one has a look at various forums relating to
crt projection you see that the tubes have limited life and while that is
between 3 and 10 times greater than the average lcd bulb ,it is still a
factor that has to be considered.Most Hd plasmas are capable of stunning
still images and occasionally stunning moving pictures.Trouble is both lcd
and plasma still have to many probs and if you can put up with an old
fashioned and perhaps smaller crt ctv the you will still get better quality
than either of the new technologies.
Gordon