Anyone here boughtr an Adventra?

[AndyPanda]

If so what you opinion on ride and fuel consumption?

Thinking of leasing one.

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[TheTaipan]

Err, have they sold any yet???

"AndyPanda" <pandy@hogmail.com> wrote in message
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> If so what you opinion on ride and fuel consumption?
>
> Thinking of leasing one.
>
> --
> For the Spooks:
> Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
> Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
> Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
> Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
> 'Asbat al-Ansar
> Aum Supreme Truth (Aum) Aum Shinrikyo, Aleph
> Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
> Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
> Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group, IG)
> HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
> Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
> Hizballah (Party of God)
> Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
> Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM)
> Jemaah Islamiya (JI)
> Al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)
> Kahane Chai (Kach)
> Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK, KADEK)
> Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT)
> Lashkar I Jhangvi (LJ)
> Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
> Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
> National Liberation Army (ELN - Colombia)
> Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
> Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
> Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
> Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)
> Al Qaeda
> Real IRA (RIRA)
> Revolution
>
> All bad people.
>

[David Z]

Who from? Avis, Hertz?

"AndyPanda" <pandy@hogmail.com> wrote in message
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> If so what you opinion on ride and fuel consumption?
>
> Thinking of leasing one.
>
> --
> For the Spooks:
> Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
> Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
> Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
> Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
> 'Asbat al-Ansar
> Aum Supreme Truth (Aum) Aum Shinrikyo, Aleph
> Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
> Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
> Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group, IG)
> HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
> Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
> Hizballah (Party of God)
> Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
> Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM)
> Jemaah Islamiya (JI)
> Al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)
> Kahane Chai (Kach)
> Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK, KADEK)
> Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT)
> Lashkar I Jhangvi (LJ)
> Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
> Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
> National Liberation Army (ELN - Colombia)
> Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
> Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
> Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
> Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)
> Al Qaeda
> Real IRA (RIRA)
> Revolution
>
> All bad people.
>

[AndyPanda]

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Who from? Avis, Hertz?

No. Public service lease. With $8500 off the list price.

[rmcgrice]

"AndyPanda" <pandy@hogmail.com> wrote in news:42d7775d$0$17065$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au:

> If so what you opinion on ride and fuel consumption?
>
> Thinking of leasing one.
>

Fuel consumption is very good, for the service stations.
However, I believe Holden are now making a V6 version.
Given the 1.9 tonne weight of the vehicle, plus a small 3.6 litre V6, it
will be a rip snorter :-)

BTW, GMH will not give fuel consuption figures on their web site.
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/vehicleentry?vehicleid=22

Good luck :-)

Ron

[TheTaipan]

Walk into a dealer with intent to buy I'm sure that they'd give an easy 8.5
Gorillas off an Adventra to get rid of one!


"AndyPanda" <pandy@hogmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iWKBe.49134$oJ.2981@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Who from? Avis, Hertz?
>
> No. Public service lease. With $8500 off the list price.
>

[DalienX]

rmcgrice wrote:

> "AndyPanda" <pandy@hogmail.com> wrote in
> news:42d7775d$0$17065$afc38c87 @news.optusnet.com.au:
>
> > If so what you opinion on ride and fuel consumption?
> >
> > Thinking of leasing one.
> >
>
> Fuel consumption is very good, for the service stations.
> However, I believe Holden are now making a V6 version.
> Given the 1.9 tonne weight of the vehicle, plus a small 3.6 litre V6,
> it will be a rip snorter :-)


It wont be too bad, if they put that new 190kw v6 in it.

>
> BTW, GMH will not give fuel consuption figures on their web site.
> http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/vehicleentry?vehicleid=22
>
> Good luck :-)
>
> Ron



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[Noddy]

"TheTaipan" <blah@blah.com> wrote in message
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> Err, have they sold any yet???

Some.

There's around half a dozen in my local area, which isn't too bad
considering that they're a pretty slow selling vehicle. It would be
interesting to see what the new 6's economy is like, but I personally
wouldn't expect it to be good.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[AndyPanda]

"Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "TheTaipan" <blah@blah.com> wrote in message
> news:42d77ae6$0$13002$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>
>> Err, have they sold any yet???
>
> Some.
>
> There's around half a dozen in my local area, which isn't too bad
> considering that they're a pretty slow selling vehicle. It would be
> interesting to see what the new 6's economy is like, but I personally
> wouldn't expect it to be good.

Yhe mid range Adventra is speced to a Berlina Wagon standard.

About the same price, leather, and the 190km V6. Its only 150kg more than
the wagon. Seems like good value for money.

So whats wrong with the Adventra?

And the fuel economy is better than the Territory. the official stats says
13.5L/100km.

[Fraser Johnston]

"DalienX" <somewhere@earth.com> wrote in message
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> rmcgrice wrote:
>
>> "AndyPanda" <pandy@hogmail.com> wrote in
>> news:42d7775d$0$17065$afc38c87 @news.optusnet.com.au:
>>
>> > If so what you opinion on ride and fuel consumption?
>> >
>> > Thinking of leasing one.
>> >
>>
>> Fuel consumption is very good, for the service stations.
>> However, I believe Holden are now making a V6 version.
>> Given the 1.9 tonne weight of the vehicle, plus a small 3.6 litre V6,
>> it will be a rip snorter :-)
>
>
> It wont be too bad, if they put that new 190kw v6 in it.

Only if they stick a big block in the back as well.

Fraser

[Hotman Paris Hutapea]

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:45:11 +1000, "AndyPanda" <pandy@hogmail.com>
wrote:

>If so what you opinion on ride and fuel consumption?
>
>Thinking of leasing one.

i've driven the V8 and obviously the fuel consumption is high.

other than that my major criticism is that all the work holden have
done to improve the steering feel on commodores since the bad old days
of the VX and earlier has been undone with the fitment of AWD. it's
lifeless.

other than that it drives OK, there's nothng fundamentally wrong with
it. whether it's really worth the price premium over a commodore is
another question.

--

Attorney at Law
5/37 Paknabiel Way
Denpasar, Indonesia.

[Marco]

"DalienX" <somewhere@earth.com> wrote in message
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>
> It wont be too bad, if they put that new 190kw v6 in it.

I did some calculations on it, and its power to weight ratio is only
marginally worse than a 175kW Commo Exec or Acclaim wagon.

What surprised me is that the cheapest Adventra, the SX6, costs about the
same as an Acclaim wagon, but is significantly better specified.
Effectively you get AWD, the 190kW engine, 5 speed auto, ESP, 17"
wheels/tyres and some other things thrown in for free.

Marco

[AndyPanda]

"Marco" <rbgemini@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "DalienX" <somewhere@earth.com> wrote in message
> news:7lMBe.49249$oJ.4437@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> It wont be too bad, if they put that new 190kw v6 in it.
>
> I did some calculations on it, and its power to weight ratio is only
> marginally worse than a 175kW Commo Exec or Acclaim wagon.
>
> What surprised me is that the cheapest Adventra, the SX6, costs about the
> same as an Acclaim wagon, but is significantly better specified.
> Effectively you get AWD, the 190kW engine, 5 speed auto, ESP, 17"
> wheels/tyres and some other things thrown in for free.
>
> Marco


Yes that is what I thought. Petrol consumption is a bit more, but hey.

[D Walford]

Marco wrote:
>
> "DalienX" <somewhere@earth.com> wrote in message
> news:7lMBe.49249$oJ.4437@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > It wont be too bad, if they put that new 190kw v6 in it.
>
> I did some calculations on it, and its power to weight ratio is only
> marginally worse than a 175kW Commo Exec or Acclaim wagon.
>
> What surprised me is that the cheapest Adventra, the SX6, costs about the
> same as an Acclaim wagon, but is significantly better specified.
> Effectively you get AWD, the 190kW engine, 5 speed auto, ESP, 17"
> wheels/tyres and some other things thrown in for free.
>

That just shows how desperate Holden are to get rid of them, it must be
the most unsuccessful vehicle sales wise that Holden have ever made.



Daryl

[rmcgrice]

D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in
news:42DB1C0F.7330E0DC@iprimus.com.au:

> That just shows how desperate Holden are to get rid of them, it must
> be the most unsuccessful vehicle sales wise that Holden have ever
> made.
> Daryl

How about the Holden Sunbird with the Starfire motor :-)

Ron

[atec]

rmcgrice wrote:
> D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in
> news:42DB1C0F.7330E0DC@iprimus.com.au:
>
>
>>That just shows how desperate Holden are to get rid of them, it must
>>be the most unsuccessful vehicle sales wise that Holden have ever
>>made.
>>Daryl
>
>
> How about the Holden Sunbird with the Starfire motor :-)
>
> Ron
>
Had the use of one for a month - free , end out of desperation I went
and hired a car for the remaining 10 days (foulcan).

[Toby Ponsenby]

On 18 Jul 2005 05:13:27 GMT, rmcgrice wrote:

> D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in
> news:42DB1C0F.7330E0DC@iprimus.com.au:
>
>> That just shows how desperate Holden are to get rid of them, it must
>> be the most unsuccessful vehicle sales wise that Holden have ever
>> made.
>> Daryl
>
> How about the Holden Sunbird with the Starfire motor :-)
>
> Ron

Heh - it would appear they shat themselves fresh from the showroom -
which no doubt gave the marketing jerks a prime does of the same,
because there was no chance of a con-jobbie on the public sufficient
to sell the rotten things in any numbers.

--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[D Walford]

rmcgrice wrote:
>
> D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in
> news:42DB1C0F.7330E0DC@iprimus.com.au:
>
> > That just shows how desperate Holden are to get rid of them, it must
> > be the most unsuccessful vehicle sales wise that Holden have ever
> > made.
> > Daryl
>
> How about the Holden Sunbird with the Starfire motor :-)
>

They were a very sad POS but I'd guess they sold more of those than the
Adventra.



Daryl

[Marco]

"D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> That just shows how desperate Holden are to get rid of them, it must be
> the most unsuccessful vehicle sales wise that Holden have ever made.

Yeah. Good news for buyers though, the choice for me would be very easy
between the two. It's not a bad car, not by a long way, it just suffers
from not having the 'proper 4WD' look that is apparently so important to
family wagon buyers.

Marco

[D Walford]

Marco wrote:
>
> "D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42DB1C0F.7330E0DC@iprimus.com.au...
> >
> > That just shows how desperate Holden are to get rid of them, it must be
> > the most unsuccessful vehicle sales wise that Holden have ever made.
>
> Yeah. Good news for buyers though, the choice for me would be very easy
> between the two. It's not a bad car, not by a long way, it just suffers
> from not having the 'proper 4WD' look that is apparently so important to
> family wagon buyers.
>

But even if you forget about the "proper 4WD look" IMO they still look
out of proportion.
The wider track just looks wrong and doesn't suit the rest of the car.



Daryl