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Pete
20-07-2005, 04:40 AM
Hi everyone...I can't find a message that I was conversing with someone
named "Michael" about. It had the word toolbars in the title and it was
7/18/05 (2:47 am or pm). I went to check for it to see if I got a response
back to my last post in the thread, and it is gone.

Please explain what could have happened and how do I get it back... Pete

Wesley Vogel
20-07-2005, 05:23 AM
Pete,

Ctrl + H to see only messages with your replies.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/browse_thread/thread/9c938505a8025a8/9bfc204272d33a7c?q=group:microsoft.public.windowsx p.help_and_support+insubject:taskbar+insubject:pro blems&rnum=1&hl=en#9bfc204272d33a7c

To find messages in a newsgroup
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/news_find_messages.mspx

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:uYz4MCJjFHA.576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
> Hi everyone...I can't find a message that I was conversing with someone
> named "Michael" about. It had the word toolbars in the title and it was
> 7/18/05 (2:47 am or pm). I went to check for it to see if I got a
> response back to my last post in the thread, and it is gone.
>
> Please explain what could have happened and how do I get it back... Pete

Pete
20-07-2005, 10:03 AM
"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:O5WMsYJjFHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Pete,
>
> Ctrl + H to see only messages with your replies.

Thanks Wes...thats real useful info. Damn it I found the original message
(it had the word task bar in the title (not toolbar), and the time was 6:47
instead of 2:47 (I was close - lol).

You guys are allright and I have lots to ask about in the future. Let me
ask you a side question about the newsgroup message "subject" (or "short
header" - as I have heard it called). I believe the real "header" is what
you see when you do a right click/properties on the message subject - is
that the correct nomenclature, and is it okay to generally refer to a
message "subject" as a header, or not (ie could it cause confusion). Part
II of my question is below.

I have XPsp2 home edition and my news reader is in Outlook Express. Why is
it when I click on a message subject with one click (and it shows up on my
split screen view below) that some times it will go shaded (indicating I
already read it), and sometimes it will not, and it will remain bold. But
if I double click it, and it expands into a separate window, it will always
stay shaded (which is what I want). I have never been able to figure out
why a single click shades it sometimes and not others.

Looking forward to your reply...Pete

>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/browse_thread/thread/9c938505a8025a8/9bfc204272d33a7c?q=group:microsoft.public.windowsx p.help_and_support+insubject:taskbar+insubject:pro blems&rnum=1&hl=en#9bfc204272d33a7c
>
> To find messages in a newsgroup
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/news_find_messages.mspx
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:uYz4MCJjFHA.576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>> Hi everyone...I can't find a message that I was conversing with someone
>> named "Michael" about. It had the word toolbars in the title and it was
>> 7/18/05 (2:47 am or pm). I went to check for it to see if I got a
>> response back to my last post in the thread, and it is gone.
>>
>> Please explain what could have happened and how do I get it back... Pete
>

Wesley Vogel
21-07-2005, 04:03 AM
Pete,

You were close. LOL Keep in mind that times do not mean much as they are
displayed in each user's time zone. You are -0400 GMT and I am -0600, for
example.

I know you're using Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506. Ctrl + F3 on
highlighted message. ;-) Ctrl + F3 shows the Message Source. That's how I
got the time zone info.

OE | Tools | Options | Read tab | Mark message read after displaying for x
seconds(s)

Mark message read after displaying for x seconds(s)
[[Specifies whether a message should be marked as read after you have
previewed it for the number of seconds indicated. If you clear this check
box, messages are not marked as read unless you open the message in a
message window.To select the message in the list, click the Edit menu, and
then click Mark as Read.]]

[[E-mail and newsgroup messages are automatically marked as read after they
are open for a certain length of time. If you don't want messages
automatically marked, on the Tools menu, click Options, click the Read tab,
and then clear the Mark message read after displaying for x seconds(s) check
box. ]]
From...
To mark messages as read
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/nwspr_auto_mark.mspx

You may find these of interest...

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx

Outlook Express newsgroups 101
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx

IE/OE Community Columns
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/default.mspx

Inside Outlook Express
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:%23anVX0LjFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:O5WMsYJjFHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Pete,
>>
>> Ctrl + H to see only messages with your replies.
>
> Thanks Wes...thats real useful info. Damn it I found the original message
> (it had the word task bar in the title (not toolbar), and the time was
> 6:47 instead of 2:47 (I was close - lol).
>
> You guys are allright and I have lots to ask about in the future. Let me
> ask you a side question about the newsgroup message "subject" (or "short
> header" - as I have heard it called). I believe the real "header" is what
> you see when you do a right click/properties on the message subject - is
> that the correct nomenclature, and is it okay to generally refer to a
> message "subject" as a header, or not (ie could it cause confusion). Part
> II of my question is below.
>
> I have XPsp2 home edition and my news reader is in Outlook Express. Why
> is it when I click on a message subject with one click (and it shows up
> on my split screen view below) that some times it will go shaded
> (indicating I already read it), and sometimes it will not, and it will
> remain bold. But if I double click it, and it expands into a separate
> window, it will always stay shaded (which is what I want). I have never
> been able to figure out why a single click shades it sometimes and not
> others.
>
> Looking forward to your reply...Pete
>
>>
>>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/browse_thread/thread/9c938505a8025a8/9bfc204272d33a7c?q=group:microsoft.public.windowsx p.help_and_support+insubject:taskbar+insubject:pro blems&rnum=1&hl=en#9bfc204272d33a7c
>>
>> To find messages in a newsgroup
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/news_find_messages.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:uYz4MCJjFHA.576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
>> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>>> Hi everyone...I can't find a message that I was conversing with someone
>>> named "Michael" about. It had the word toolbars in the title and it was
>>> 7/18/05 (2:47 am or pm). I went to check for it to see if I got a
>>> response back to my last post in the thread, and it is gone.
>>>
>>> Please explain what could have happened and how do I get it back... Pete

Pete
21-07-2005, 07:33 AM
Wes...Thank you so much for all the good info you provided below. Also see
a couple of my inline comments. Are you a regular in the group and do you
read all hundred messages that come in every day (it's awesome), and does
Microsoft have a person(s) that monitor the group, and also provide
comments, or is it strictly public. I will be writing more in the future.
This looks like a real good site. Thanks again...Pete

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23rAkDVVjFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Pete,
>
> You were close. LOL Keep in mind that times do not mean much as they are
> displayed in each user's time zone. You are -0400 GMT and I am -0600, for
> example.

I know that Wes...all I meant is I would find the original post by going
back to the time it was posted (since you guys get over a hundred messages a
day), and I was looking for the wrong time (thats why I couldn't find it).
Anyway the Ctrl + H thing is a lifesafer, and I don't have to do that
anymore - thanks again.

>
> I know you're using Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506.

Actually, my OE is 6.00.2900.2180 (check again - lol)

Ctrl + F3 on
> highlighted message. ;-) Ctrl + F3 shows the Message Source. That's how
> I
> got the time zone info.
>
> OE | Tools | Options | Read tab | Mark message read after displaying for x
> seconds(s)
>
> Mark message read after displaying for x seconds(s)
> [[Specifies whether a message should be marked as read after you have
> previewed it for the number of seconds indicated. If you clear this check
> box, messages are not marked as read unless you open the message in a
> message window.To select the message in the list, click the Edit menu, and
> then click Mark as Read.]]
>
> [[E-mail and newsgroup messages are automatically marked as read after
> they
> are open for a certain length of time. If you don't want messages
> automatically marked, on the Tools menu, click Options, click the Read
> tab,
> and then clear the Mark message read after displaying for x seconds(s)
> check
> box. ]]
> From...
> To mark messages as read
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/nwspr_auto_mark.mspx
>
> You may find these of interest...
>
> Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
>
> Outlook Express newsgroups 101
> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx
>
> IE/OE Community Columns
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/default.mspx
>
> Inside Outlook Express
> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:%23anVX0LjFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:O5WMsYJjFHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Pete,
>>>
>>> Ctrl + H to see only messages with your replies.
>>
>> Thanks Wes...thats real useful info. Damn it I found the original
>> message
>> (it had the word task bar in the title (not toolbar), and the time was
>> 6:47 instead of 2:47 (I was close - lol).
>>
>> You guys are allright and I have lots to ask about in the future. Let me
>> ask you a side question about the newsgroup message "subject" (or "short
>> header" - as I have heard it called). I believe the real "header" is
>> what
>> you see when you do a right click/properties on the message subject - is
>> that the correct nomenclature, and is it okay to generally refer to a
>> message "subject" as a header, or not (ie could it cause confusion).
>> Part
>> II of my question is below.
>>
>> I have XPsp2 home edition and my news reader is in Outlook Express. Why
>> is it when I click on a message subject with one click (and it shows up
>> on my split screen view below) that some times it will go shaded
>> (indicating I already read it), and sometimes it will not, and it will
>> remain bold. But if I double click it, and it expands into a separate
>> window, it will always stay shaded (which is what I want). I have never
>> been able to figure out why a single click shades it sometimes and not
>> others.
>>
>> Looking forward to your reply...Pete
>>
>>>
>>>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/browse_thread/thread/9c938505a8025a8/9bfc204272d33a7c?q=group:microsoft.public.windowsx p.help_and_support+insubject:taskbar+insubject:pro blems&rnum=1&hl=en#9bfc204272d33a7c
>>>
>>> To find messages in a newsgroup
>>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/news_find_messages.mspx
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>> In news:uYz4MCJjFHA.576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
>>> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>>>> Hi everyone...I can't find a message that I was conversing with someone
>>>> named "Michael" about. It had the word toolbars in the title and it
>>>> was
>>>> 7/18/05 (2:47 am or pm). I went to check for it to see if I got a
>>>> response back to my last post in the thread, and it is gone.
>>>>
>>>> Please explain what could have happened and how do I get it back...
>>>> Pete
>

Ext User(Wesley Vogel)
22-07-2005, 02:23 AM
Hi Pete,

Yes, I am a regular. I only read posts that interest me, this isn't my job
so reading uninteresting posts... Well, you figure it out. ;-)

Microsoft does have people monitoring the newsgroups on their news servers.
But mostly it is people who are interested in helping others with Windows
problems or opportunities.

Oops, that's my Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506, not yours.

[[MVPs are not employees of Microsoft nor do they speak on Microsoft's
behalf. MVPs are third party individuals who have simply received an award
from Microsoft.]]
Frequently Asked Questions
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

[[Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) are the most
active experts in technical communities recognized by Microsoft for their
past quality participation, demonstrated practical expertise and passion for
technology. While Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and
professions, all share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and
advice to enhance the technical skills of others.]]
Rules of Conduct
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Overview
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpexecs

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:ubO9NHXjFHA.3348@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
> Wes...Thank you so much for all the good info you provided below. Also
> see a couple of my inline comments. Are you a regular in the group and
> do you read all hundred messages that come in every day (it's awesome),
> and does Microsoft have a person(s) that monitor the group, and also
> provide comments, or is it strictly public. I will be writing more in
> the future. This looks like a real good site. Thanks again...Pete
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%23rAkDVVjFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Pete,
>>
>> You were close. LOL Keep in mind that times do not mean much as they
>> are displayed in each user's time zone. You are -0400 GMT and I am
>> -0600, for example.
>
> I know that Wes...all I meant is I would find the original post by going
> back to the time it was posted (since you guys get over a hundred
> messages a day), and I was looking for the wrong time (thats why I
> couldn't find it). Anyway the Ctrl + H thing is a lifesafer, and I don't
> have to do that anymore - thanks again.
>
>>
>> I know you're using Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506.
>
> Actually, my OE is 6.00.2900.2180 (check again - lol)
>

<snip>

Ext User(Pete)
22-07-2005, 05:33 AM
Thanks Wes...see inline comments below...Pete

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:On6kv8gjFHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Pete,
>
> Yes, I am a regular. I only read posts that interest me, this isn't my
> job
> so reading uninteresting posts... Well, you figure it out. ;-)

Well, thank you for reading my post. I have some good ones coming up that I
think may interest you. One of them is on the "dreaded" invisible (and I
have show hidden files checked, and hide protected system files unchecked)
folder "content.ie5" (its one of seven folders with the same title - the
other six visible), and it has a lot of crap in 8 subfolders that I consider
useless). I have XPsp2, home edition.

I stumbled on to it by accident by right clicking its parent folder (TIF's -
which was empty after clearing cache), and I did a properties and saw 10
subfolders and a whole bunch of files, and said HUH? My Irfan thumbnails
will show it in it's directory tree, but windows explorer won't (another
Bill Gates first - lol - microsoft likes to hide stuff). It was visible in
millenium, but not in XP. The only way you can get it to show in windows
explorer is to type its full path name in the address bar. It is quite
involved, and I struck out in another site. It will take me some time to
compose my post since I ran out of steam with the other group, but it will
be coming. Damn it, I didn't want to start explaining it here...Pete

>
> Microsoft does have people monitoring the newsgroups on their news
> servers.
> But mostly it is people who are interested in helping others with Windows
> problems or opportunities.

Wes...Do the microsoft people ever respond to the posts...Pete


>
> Oops, that's my Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506, not yours.

Yours is older (lol).

>
> [[MVPs are not employees of Microsoft nor do they speak on Microsoft's
> behalf. MVPs are third party individuals who have simply received an award
> from Microsoft.]]

Wes...I was a little familiar with the MS-MVP's, and went to the site you
provided. Could you tell me a little more about the nominations (eg who
nominated you). Who usually makes the nominations - the nominee's peers or
microsoft (via monitoring newsgroups - I assume)...Pete

> Frequently Asked Questions
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
>
> [[Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) are the
> most
> active experts in technical communities recognized by Microsoft for their
> past quality participation, demonstrated practical expertise and passion
> for
> technology. While Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and
> professions, all share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and
> advice to enhance the technical skills of others.]]
> Rules of Conduct
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
> Overview
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpexecs
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:ubO9NHXjFHA.3348@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>> Wes...Thank you so much for all the good info you provided below. Also
>> see a couple of my inline comments. Are you a regular in the group and
>> do you read all hundred messages that come in every day (it's awesome),
>> and does Microsoft have a person(s) that monitor the group, and also
>> provide comments, or is it strictly public. I will be writing more in
>> the future. This looks like a real good site. Thanks again...Pete
>>
>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23rAkDVVjFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Pete,
>>>
>>> You were close. LOL Keep in mind that times do not mean much as they
>>> are displayed in each user's time zone. You are -0400 GMT and I am
>>> -0600, for example.
>>
>> I know that Wes...all I meant is I would find the original post by going
>> back to the time it was posted (since you guys get over a hundred
>> messages a day), and I was looking for the wrong time (thats why I
>> couldn't find it). Anyway the Ctrl + H thing is a lifesafer, and I don't
>> have to do that anymore - thanks again.
>>
>>>
>>> I know you're using Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506.
>>
>> Actually, my OE is 6.00.2900.2180 (check again - lol)
>>
>
> <snip>
>

Ext User(Wesley Vogel)
23-07-2005, 10:53 AM
Hi Pete,

Content.IE5 is not visible from Windows Explorer, it doesn't matter what
settings you have set, you have to sneak up on it.

According to PA Bear and Frank Saunders, "Smoke and mirrors."

Temporary Internet Files folder is a Virtual Folder and a Namespace object.
Has something to do with being a shell folder with its own GUID. I don't
understand half of this. Anyway, moving along.

Temporary Internet Files folders are Special Folders, like My Documents, My
Music, My Computer, Recycle Bin, et cetera. Part of what makes them special
is the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier. These are found in the registry,
where the GUID is the identifier for the special folder. They are found
here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID. The GUID for Temporary Internet Files is
{7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}.

Part of this is because of the desktop.ini file.

Most Temporary Internet Files folders are Hidden and classified as system
files. They are hidden from Windows Explorer and Search. The device used
to hide them is the desktop.ini file. The desktop.ini signals that they are
system files, hidden and if deleted, they are recreated on the next boot.
To find them, you have to discover them by accident or know where to look.

The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file system folder
will be viewed and handled.

Some info on Desktop.ini files pieced together from many sources...

File system folders are commonly displayed with a standard icon and set of
properties, which specify, for instance, whether or not the folder is
shared. The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file
system folder will be viewed and handled. The most common use of the
Desktop.ini file is to assign a custom icon to a folder.

The desktop.ini can have info that lists the folder as a system file, hidden
and if deleted, it is recreated on the next boot. The desktop.ini can also
have info like a UICLSID line that hides the folder in Windows Explorer. And
a CLSID line that disables the Search utility from searching through the
folder.

Also the folder name info can be listed in the desktop.ini. For example,
the folder Shared Documents becomes just Documents if you remove the
desktop.ini.
-----

I have a shortcut to Content.IE5.
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
-----

To view:
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
General tab | Settings button | View Files button

Or...

Start | Run | Paste this in the box:

paste %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

Click OK.

To view:
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5 AND \Content.MSO

Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Highlight Temporary Internet Files |
View Files button

Or...

Start | Run | Type: %tmp% | OK |

You will probably have to click the Folders button on the Tool Bar.
Click: [+] Temporary Internet Files
Click: [+] Content.IE5
Click: Random named folders
View
You can also view Content.MSO

Or...

Start | Run | Paste this in the box:

%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5

Click OK.
You can also view Content.MSO

Or...
Start | Run | Paste this in the box:

%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO

Click OK.

Note: Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe) will *not* clean:
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5

I don't know why you can view the Content.IE5 folder with Disk Cleanup but
it won't clean the folder.

According to David Candy, this isn't true. This has to do with...
Safely delete access time stored here (7 is days):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Explorer\VolumeCaches\Temporary Files\
Value Name: LastAccess
Value Type: REG_DWORD
Value Data: 7

As far as I'm concerned 7 days is too long. I suppose I could change it to
1, but I'm not worried about it, because I use Disk Cleaner.

Clear the Temporary Internet Files using the Windows XP Disk Cleanup utility
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/clearxptif.htm

-----

I use Disk Cleaner to clean out most everything on my machine along with a
batch file or two.

I have Disk Cleaner set to run quiet at startup. Runs for 5 seconds or so
and exits. I also like the fact that, after you set it up, it cleans all
the following with one click (and/or automatically at boot). Makes XP's
Disk Cleanup look like a piker. XP's Disk Cleanup will *not* clean
Content.IE5.

Disk Cleaner will Clean:
Temporary Internet Files {Including the contents of the Content.IE5 folder}
Internet Cookies
Internet History
System Temporary Folder
Recent Documents
Run... Dialog List
Find Document List
Find Computer List
URLs in IE Address Bar
URLs in Shell Address Bar
Media Player Recent URLs
WinZip Recent Files
WinZip Extract To Folders
Paint Recent Files
WordPad Recent Files
Cleans Recycle Bin (what else?)
Opera Cache
Opera Cookies
Opera History
Opera Visited links
Opera Download History and Download folder
Firefox Cache
Firefox Cookies
Firefox History

Disk Cleaner
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mp2004/

-----

To clean out *all* Temporary Internet Files.....
1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed. Especially
if there are a large number of files.
2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete Files
3) Check the box Delete all offline content {This cleans >>
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files AND
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes the
temporary internet files
5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete cookies that
websites have placed on your hard drive.

If you want, try this: Open IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab |
scroll down to the bottom | check: Empty Temporary Internet Files folder
when browser is closed | click Apply | OK. Entirely up to you, but if you
want to be rid of this, it is done automatically. Deletes the content of
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files but not the Content.IE5 or Content.MSO folders.

Also: Start IE | Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Days to keep
pages in history: 0 | Apply | OK.
-----

Even with all this cleaned out
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
can still show that it is pretty good sized.

I just cleaned mine and it is 224 KB. That's because the index.dat file is
224 KB.

%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat

I use a batch file to delete that index.dat file when I reboot.

Side note:
Most index.dat files get recreated if they are deleted.

%windir%\PCHealth\HelpCtr\OfflineCache\index.dat.

This index.dat does not get recreated. The loss of this particular file
will
cripple System Information (msinfo32.exe). This index.dat actually does
something besides growing to a huge size.
-----

Content.IE5 contains all kinds of things. Files generated by Help and
Support Center and Outlook Express, for example.

[[Note: when viewing Newsgroup messages Outlook Express dumps a series of
zero-byte files into the TIF. When Outlook Express is closed it fails to
cleanup these files. To delete these zero-byte files you must select the
option "Delete all offline files".]]

From...
Internet Explorer Tips and Tricks
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm

[[Outlook Express 5.5 and 6 place a zero byte file in TIF for every message
that you read. These files are only visible from Start | Find | Files or
Folders, not from Windows Explorer. ]]

[[The easy way to get rid of them if you use OE 5.5 or 6 is to open Internet
Explorer and go to Tools | Internet Options. In the Temporary Internet Files
Section choose "Delete files". In the next dialogue check the box for
"Delete all offline content" and click "OK".]]

From...
CA* files in TIF
http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/CA.htm

-----

Outlook Express creates a zero byte file for every message read. Plus
wbk**.tmp files when messages are read. Plus wbk**.tmp files when you Save
a message that you're working on, every time you hit Save.

The zero byte files have names like [1] or [14]. The files are created in
Content.IE5 subfolders.

Examples...
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\1EXPNXVB\[14]
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\[54]
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\LJTLPTXJ\[25]
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\NU1KF7TX\[12]

The wbk**.tmp files have names like wbk118.tmp or wbkE5.tmp The files are
created in Content.IE5 subfolders.

Examples...
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbk118.tmp
%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbkC1.tmp
-----

Once in a while you see posts by real Microsoft employees.

Nobody will fess up to nominating me. I asked my lead and I asked around.

I belong to some private MVP lists and once in a while I see someone asking
if nominating so-and-so is a good idea and does anyone disagree. Microsoft
also has people that monitor the newsgroups and they nominate people also.
-----

Well this post is 11KB, I hope I covered everything. If not, Start a new
thread.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:O4FAioijFHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
> Thanks Wes...see inline comments below...Pete
>
> Well, thank you for reading my post. I have some good ones coming up
> that I think may interest you. One of them is on the "dreaded" invisible
> (and I have show hidden files checked, and hide protected system files
> unchecked) folder "content.ie5" (its one of seven folders with the same
> title - the other six visible), and it has a lot of crap in 8 subfolders
> that I consider useless). I have XPsp2, home edition.
>
> I stumbled on to it by accident by right clicking its parent folder
> (TIF's - which was empty after clearing cache), and I did a properties
> and saw 10 subfolders and a whole bunch of files, and said HUH? My Irfan
> thumbnails will show it in it's directory tree, but windows explorer
> won't (another Bill Gates first - lol - microsoft likes to hide stuff).
> It was visible in millenium, but not in XP. The only way you can get it
> to show in windows explorer is to type its full path name in the address
> bar. It is quite involved, and I struck out in another site. It will
> take me some time to compose my post since I ran out of steam with the
> other group, but it will be coming. Damn it, I didn't want to start
> explaining it here...Pete
>
>
> Wes...Do the microsoft people ever respond to the posts...Pete
>
>
>
> Yours is older (lol).
>
>>
>
> Wes...I was a little familiar with the MS-MVP's, and went to the site you
> provided. Could you tell me a little more about the nominations (eg who
> nominated you). Who usually makes the nominations - the nominee's peers
> or microsoft (via monitoring newsgroups - I assume)...Pete
>

<snip>

Ext User(Pete)
24-07-2005, 04:34 AM
Wes...Thank you so much for the most comprehensive response I have ever
received. You are a gentleman and a scholar, and if you don't understand
all the stuff about the TIF folder, and "being a shell folder with its own
GUID", I don't have a chance (lol). You are a smart guy (like I have said),
and you did not waste your time writing all this, and I certainly appreciate
it, and have already copied it to my hard drive, via my "old inbox" (you
wouldn't believe all the messages I have in there - lol), and you ought to
see my favorite places (full of medical info).

I am a technical person and a retired engineer, and I find everything you
wrote below very interesting and informative. I won't have to write the
long post I was going to write now (on the Content.IE5 folder). I will
start a new thread like you said for further comments. Thanks...Pete

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:erUlWByjFHA.3144@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi Pete,
>
> Content.IE5 is not visible from Windows Explorer, it doesn't matter what
> settings you have set, you have to sneak up on it.
>
> According to PA Bear and Frank Saunders, "Smoke and mirrors."
>
> Temporary Internet Files folder is a Virtual Folder and a Namespace
> object.
> Has something to do with being a shell folder with its own GUID. I don't
> understand half of this. Anyway, moving along.
>
> Temporary Internet Files folders are Special Folders, like My Documents,
> My
> Music, My Computer, Recycle Bin, et cetera. Part of what makes them
> special
> is the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier. These are found in the
> registry,
> where the GUID is the identifier for the special folder. They are found
> here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID. The GUID for Temporary Internet Files is
> {7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}.
>
> Part of this is because of the desktop.ini file.
>
> Most Temporary Internet Files folders are Hidden and classified as system
> files. They are hidden from Windows Explorer and Search. The device used
> to hide them is the desktop.ini file. The desktop.ini signals that they
> are
> system files, hidden and if deleted, they are recreated on the next boot.
> To find them, you have to discover them by accident or know where to look.
>
> The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file system
> folder
> will be viewed and handled.
>
> Some info on Desktop.ini files pieced together from many sources...
>
> File system folders are commonly displayed with a standard icon and set of
> properties, which specify, for instance, whether or not the folder is
> shared. The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file
> system folder will be viewed and handled. The most common use of the
> Desktop.ini file is to assign a custom icon to a folder.
>
> The desktop.ini can have info that lists the folder as a system file,
> hidden
> and if deleted, it is recreated on the next boot. The desktop.ini can
> also
> have info like a UICLSID line that hides the folder in Windows Explorer.
> And
> a CLSID line that disables the Search utility from searching through the
> folder.
>
> Also the folder name info can be listed in the desktop.ini. For example,
> the folder Shared Documents becomes just Documents if you remove the
> desktop.ini.
> -----
>
> I have a shortcut to Content.IE5.
> C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
> -----
>
> To view:
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>
> Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
> General tab | Settings button | View Files button
>
> Or...
>
> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>
> paste %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>
> Click OK.
>
> To view:
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5 AND \Content.MSO
>
> Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Highlight Temporary Internet Files
> |
> View Files button
>
> Or...
>
> Start | Run | Type: %tmp% | OK |
>
> You will probably have to click the Folders button on the Tool Bar.
> Click: [+] Temporary Internet Files
> Click: [+] Content.IE5
> Click: Random named folders
> View
> You can also view Content.MSO
>
> Or...
>
> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>
> Click OK.
> You can also view Content.MSO
>
> Or...
> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO
>
> Click OK.
>
> Note: Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe) will *not* clean:
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5
>
> I don't know why you can view the Content.IE5 folder with Disk Cleanup but
> it won't clean the folder.
>
> According to David Candy, this isn't true. This has to do with...
> Safely delete access time stored here (7 is days):
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> Explorer\VolumeCaches\Temporary Files\
> Value Name: LastAccess
> Value Type: REG_DWORD
> Value Data: 7
>
> As far as I'm concerned 7 days is too long. I suppose I could change it
> to
> 1, but I'm not worried about it, because I use Disk Cleaner.
>
> Clear the Temporary Internet Files using the Windows XP Disk Cleanup
> utility
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/clearxptif.htm
>
> -----
>
> I use Disk Cleaner to clean out most everything on my machine along with a
> batch file or two.
>
> I have Disk Cleaner set to run quiet at startup. Runs for 5 seconds or so
> and exits. I also like the fact that, after you set it up, it cleans all
> the following with one click (and/or automatically at boot). Makes XP's
> Disk Cleanup look like a piker. XP's Disk Cleanup will *not* clean
> Content.IE5.
>
> Disk Cleaner will Clean:
> Temporary Internet Files {Including the contents of the Content.IE5
> folder}
> Internet Cookies
> Internet History
> System Temporary Folder
> Recent Documents
> Run... Dialog List
> Find Document List
> Find Computer List
> URLs in IE Address Bar
> URLs in Shell Address Bar
> Media Player Recent URLs
> WinZip Recent Files
> WinZip Extract To Folders
> Paint Recent Files
> WordPad Recent Files
> Cleans Recycle Bin (what else?)
> Opera Cache
> Opera Cookies
> Opera History
> Opera Visited links
> Opera Download History and Download folder
> Firefox Cache
> Firefox Cookies
> Firefox History
>
> Disk Cleaner
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~mp2004/
>
> -----
>
> To clean out *all* Temporary Internet Files.....
> 1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
> Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed.
> Especially
> if there are a large number of files.
> 2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete Files
> 3) Check the box Delete all offline content {This cleans >>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files AND
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
> 4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes
> the
> temporary internet files
> 5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete cookies that
> websites have placed on your hard drive.
>
> If you want, try this: Open IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab
> |
> scroll down to the bottom | check: Empty Temporary Internet Files folder
> when browser is closed | click Apply | OK. Entirely up to you, but if you
> want to be rid of this, it is done automatically. Deletes the content of
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files but not the Content.IE5 or Content.MSO folders.
>
> Also: Start IE | Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Days to keep
> pages in history: 0 | Apply | OK.
> -----
>
> Even with all this cleaned out
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
> can still show that it is pretty good sized.
>
> I just cleaned mine and it is 224 KB. That's because the index.dat file
> is
> 224 KB.
>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
>
> I use a batch file to delete that index.dat file when I reboot.
>
> Side note:
> Most index.dat files get recreated if they are deleted.
>
> %windir%\PCHealth\HelpCtr\OfflineCache\index.dat.
>
> This index.dat does not get recreated. The loss of this particular file
> will
> cripple System Information (msinfo32.exe). This index.dat actually does
> something besides growing to a huge size.
> -----
>
> Content.IE5 contains all kinds of things. Files generated by Help and
> Support Center and Outlook Express, for example.
>
> [[Note: when viewing Newsgroup messages Outlook Express dumps a series of
> zero-byte files into the TIF. When Outlook Express is closed it fails to
> cleanup these files. To delete these zero-byte files you must select the
> option "Delete all offline files".]]
>
> From...
> Internet Explorer Tips and Tricks
> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm
>
> [[Outlook Express 5.5 and 6 place a zero byte file in TIF for every
> message
> that you read. These files are only visible from Start | Find | Files or
> Folders, not from Windows Explorer. ]]
>
> [[The easy way to get rid of them if you use OE 5.5 or 6 is to open
> Internet
> Explorer and go to Tools | Internet Options. In the Temporary Internet
> Files
> Section choose "Delete files". In the next dialogue check the box for
> "Delete all offline content" and click "OK".]]
>
> From...
> CA* files in TIF
> http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/CA.htm
>
> -----
>
> Outlook Express creates a zero byte file for every message read. Plus
> wbk**.tmp files when messages are read. Plus wbk**.tmp files when you
> Save
> a message that you're working on, every time you hit Save.
>
> The zero byte files have names like [1] or [14]. The files are created in
> Content.IE5 subfolders.
>
> Examples...
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\1EXPNXVB\[14]
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\[54]
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\LJTLPTXJ\[25]
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\NU1KF7TX\[12]
>
> The wbk**.tmp files have names like wbk118.tmp or wbkE5.tmp The files are
> created in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>
> Examples...
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbk118.tmp
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbkC1.tmp
> -----
>
> Once in a while you see posts by real Microsoft employees.
>
> Nobody will fess up to nominating me. I asked my lead and I asked around.
>
> I belong to some private MVP lists and once in a while I see someone
> asking
> if nominating so-and-so is a good idea and does anyone disagree.
> Microsoft
> also has people that monitor the newsgroups and they nominate people also.
> -----
>
> Well this post is 11KB, I hope I covered everything. If not, Start a new
> thread.
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:O4FAioijFHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>> Thanks Wes...see inline comments below...Pete
>>
>> Well, thank you for reading my post. I have some good ones coming up
>> that I think may interest you. One of them is on the "dreaded" invisible
>> (and I have show hidden files checked, and hide protected system files
>> unchecked) folder "content.ie5" (its one of seven folders with the same
>> title - the other six visible), and it has a lot of crap in 8 subfolders
>> that I consider useless). I have XPsp2, home edition.
>>
>> I stumbled on to it by accident by right clicking its parent folder
>> (TIF's - which was empty after clearing cache), and I did a properties
>> and saw 10 subfolders and a whole bunch of files, and said HUH? My Irfan
>> thumbnails will show it in it's directory tree, but windows explorer
>> won't (another Bill Gates first - lol - microsoft likes to hide stuff).
>> It was visible in millenium, but not in XP. The only way you can get it
>> to show in windows explorer is to type its full path name in the address
>> bar. It is quite involved, and I struck out in another site. It will
>> take me some time to compose my post since I ran out of steam with the
>> other group, but it will be coming. Damn it, I didn't want to start
>> explaining it here...Pete
>>
>>
>> Wes...Do the microsoft people ever respond to the posts...Pete
>>
>>
>>
>> Yours is older (lol).
>>
>>>
>>
>> Wes...I was a little familiar with the MS-MVP's, and went to the site you
>> provided. Could you tell me a little more about the nominations (eg who
>> nominated you). Who usually makes the nominations - the nominee's peers
>> or microsoft (via monitoring newsgroups - I assume)...Pete
>>
>
> <snip>
>

Ext User(Wesley Vogel)
25-07-2005, 08:43 AM
Hi Pete,

Most people accuse me of being a gentleman and a scoundrel. :-)

Most of it was copied and pasted from other posts I've written. I learned a
while ago to save anything that looked like it might be useful again. No
sense in typing the same thing over and over.

What kind of engineer?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:uM83bT7jFHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
> Wes...Thank you so much for the most comprehensive response I have ever
> received. You are a gentleman and a scholar, and if you don't understand
> all the stuff about the TIF folder, and "being a shell folder with its own
> GUID", I don't have a chance (lol). You are a smart guy (like I have
> said), and you did not waste your time writing all this, and I certainly
> appreciate it, and have already copied it to my hard drive, via my "old
> inbox" (you wouldn't believe all the messages I have in there - lol), and
> you ought to see my favorite places (full of medical info).
>
> I am a technical person and a retired engineer, and I find everything you
> wrote below very interesting and informative. I won't have to write the
> long post I was going to write now (on the Content.IE5 folder). I will
> start a new thread like you said for further comments. Thanks...Pete
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:erUlWByjFHA.3144@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> Content.IE5 is not visible from Windows Explorer, it doesn't matter what
>> settings you have set, you have to sneak up on it.
>>
>> According to PA Bear and Frank Saunders, "Smoke and mirrors."
>>
>> Temporary Internet Files folder is a Virtual Folder and a Namespace
>> object.
>> Has something to do with being a shell folder with its own GUID. I don't
>> understand half of this. Anyway, moving along.
>>
>> Temporary Internet Files folders are Special Folders, like My Documents,
>> My
>> Music, My Computer, Recycle Bin, et cetera. Part of what makes them
>> special
>> is the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier. These are found in the
>> registry,
>> where the GUID is the identifier for the special folder. They are found
>> here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID. The GUID for Temporary Internet Files is
>> {7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}.
>>
>> Part of this is because of the desktop.ini file.
>>
>> Most Temporary Internet Files folders are Hidden and classified as system
>> files. They are hidden from Windows Explorer and Search. The device
>> used to hide them is the desktop.ini file. The desktop.ini signals that
>> they are
>> system files, hidden and if deleted, they are recreated on the next boot.
>> To find them, you have to discover them by accident or know where to
>> look.
>>
>> The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file system
>> folder
>> will be viewed and handled.
>>
>> Some info on Desktop.ini files pieced together from many sources...
>>
>> File system folders are commonly displayed with a standard icon and set
>> of properties, which specify, for instance, whether or not the folder is
>> shared. The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file
>> system folder will be viewed and handled. The most common use of the
>> Desktop.ini file is to assign a custom icon to a folder.
>>
>> The desktop.ini can have info that lists the folder as a system file,
>> hidden
>> and if deleted, it is recreated on the next boot. The desktop.ini can
>> also
>> have info like a UICLSID line that hides the folder in Windows Explorer.
>> And
>> a CLSID line that disables the Search utility from searching through the
>> folder.
>>
>> Also the folder name info can be listed in the desktop.ini. For example,
>> the folder Shared Documents becomes just Documents if you remove the
>> desktop.ini.
>> -----
>>
>> I have a shortcut to Content.IE5.
>> C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>> -----
>>
>> To view:
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>
>> Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
>> General tab | Settings button | View Files button
>>
>> Or...
>>
>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>
>> paste %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>
>> Click OK.
>>
>> To view:
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5 AND \Content.MSO
>>
>> Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Highlight Temporary Internet
>> Files
>>>
>> View Files button
>>
>> Or...
>>
>> Start | Run | Type: %tmp% | OK |
>>
>> You will probably have to click the Folders button on the Tool Bar.
>> Click: [+] Temporary Internet Files
>> Click: [+] Content.IE5
>> Click: Random named folders
>> View
>> You can also view Content.MSO
>>
>> Or...
>>
>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>>
>> Click OK.
>> You can also view Content.MSO
>>
>> Or...
>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO
>>
>> Click OK.
>>
>> Note: Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe) will *not* clean:
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5
>>
>> I don't know why you can view the Content.IE5 folder with Disk Cleanup
>> but it won't clean the folder.
>>
>> According to David Candy, this isn't true. This has to do with...
>> Safely delete access time stored here (7 is days):
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
>> Explorer\VolumeCaches\Temporary Files\
>> Value Name: LastAccess
>> Value Type: REG_DWORD
>> Value Data: 7
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned 7 days is too long. I suppose I could change it
>> to
>> 1, but I'm not worried about it, because I use Disk Cleaner.
>>
>> Clear the Temporary Internet Files using the Windows XP Disk Cleanup
>> utility
>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/clearxptif.htm
>>
>> -----
>>
>> I use Disk Cleaner to clean out most everything on my machine along with
>> a batch file or two.
>>
>> I have Disk Cleaner set to run quiet at startup. Runs for 5 seconds or
>> so and exits. I also like the fact that, after you set it up, it cleans
>> all the following with one click (and/or automatically at boot). Makes
>> XP's Disk Cleanup look like a piker. XP's Disk Cleanup will *not* clean
>> Content.IE5.
>>
>> Disk Cleaner will Clean:
>> Temporary Internet Files {Including the contents of the Content.IE5
>> folder}
>> Internet Cookies
>> Internet History
>> System Temporary Folder
>> Recent Documents
>> Run... Dialog List
>> Find Document List
>> Find Computer List
>> URLs in IE Address Bar
>> URLs in Shell Address Bar
>> Media Player Recent URLs
>> WinZip Recent Files
>> WinZip Extract To Folders
>> Paint Recent Files
>> WordPad Recent Files
>> Cleans Recycle Bin (what else?)
>> Opera Cache
>> Opera Cookies
>> Opera History
>> Opera Visited links
>> Opera Download History and Download folder
>> Firefox Cache
>> Firefox Cookies
>> Firefox History
>>
>> Disk Cleaner
>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~mp2004/
>>
>> -----
>>
>> To clean out *all* Temporary Internet Files.....
>> 1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
>> Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed.
>> Especially
>> if there are a large number of files.
>> 2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete Files
>> 3) Check the box Delete all offline content {This cleans >>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files AND
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>> 4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes
>> the
>> temporary internet files
>> 5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete cookies
>> that websites have placed on your hard drive.
>>
>> If you want, try this: Open IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab
>>>
>> scroll down to the bottom | check: Empty Temporary Internet Files folder
>> when browser is closed | click Apply | OK. Entirely up to you, but if
>> you want to be rid of this, it is done automatically. Deletes the
>> content of %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files but not the Content.IE5 or Content.MSO folders.
>>
>> Also: Start IE | Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Days to keep
>> pages in history: 0 | Apply | OK.
>> -----
>>
>> Even with all this cleaned out
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>> can still show that it is pretty good sized.
>>
>> I just cleaned mine and it is 224 KB. That's because the index.dat file
>> is
>> 224 KB.
>>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
>>
>> I use a batch file to delete that index.dat file when I reboot.
>>
>> Side note:
>> Most index.dat files get recreated if they are deleted.
>>
>> %windir%\PCHealth\HelpCtr\OfflineCache\index.dat.
>>
>> This index.dat does not get recreated. The loss of this particular file
>> will
>> cripple System Information (msinfo32.exe). This index.dat actually does
>> something besides growing to a huge size.
>> -----
>>
>> Content.IE5 contains all kinds of things. Files generated by Help and
>> Support Center and Outlook Express, for example.
>>
>> [[Note: when viewing Newsgroup messages Outlook Express dumps a series of
>> zero-byte files into the TIF. When Outlook Express is closed it fails to
>> cleanup these files. To delete these zero-byte files you must select the
>> option "Delete all offline files".]]
>>
>> From...
>> Internet Explorer Tips and Tricks
>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm
>>
>> [[Outlook Express 5.5 and 6 place a zero byte file in TIF for every
>> message
>> that you read. These files are only visible from Start | Find | Files or
>> Folders, not from Windows Explorer. ]]
>>
>> [[The easy way to get rid of them if you use OE 5.5 or 6 is to open
>> Internet
>> Explorer and go to Tools | Internet Options. In the Temporary Internet
>> Files
>> Section choose "Delete files". In the next dialogue check the box for
>> "Delete all offline content" and click "OK".]]
>>
>> From...
>> CA* files in TIF
>> http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/CA.htm
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Outlook Express creates a zero byte file for every message read. Plus
>> wbk**.tmp files when messages are read. Plus wbk**.tmp files when you
>> Save
>> a message that you're working on, every time you hit Save.
>>
>> The zero byte files have names like [1] or [14]. The files are created
>> in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>>
>> Examples...
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\1EXPNXVB\[14]
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\[54]
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\LJTLPTXJ\[25]
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\NU1KF7TX\[12]
>>
>> The wbk**.tmp files have names like wbk118.tmp or wbkE5.tmp The files are
>> created in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>>
>> Examples...
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbk118.tmp
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbkC1.tmp
>> -----
>>
>> Once in a while you see posts by real Microsoft employees.
>>
>> Nobody will fess up to nominating me. I asked my lead and I asked
>> around.
>>
>> I belong to some private MVP lists and once in a while I see someone
>> asking
>> if nominating so-and-so is a good idea and does anyone disagree.
>> Microsoft
>> also has people that monitor the newsgroups and they nominate people
>> also. -----
>>
>> Well this post is 11KB, I hope I covered everything. If not, Start a new
>> thread.
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:O4FAioijFHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
>> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>>> Thanks Wes...see inline comments below...Pete
>>>
>>> Well, thank you for reading my post. I have some good ones coming up
>>> that I think may interest you. One of them is on the "dreaded"
>>> invisible (and I have show hidden files checked, and hide protected
>>> system files unchecked) folder "content.ie5" (its one of seven folders
>>> with the same title - the other six visible), and it has a lot of crap
>>> in 8 subfolders that I consider useless). I have XPsp2, home edition.
>>>
>>> I stumbled on to it by accident by right clicking its parent folder
>>> (TIF's - which was empty after clearing cache), and I did a properties
>>> and saw 10 subfolders and a whole bunch of files, and said HUH? My
>>> Irfan thumbnails will show it in it's directory tree, but windows
>>> explorer won't (another Bill Gates first - lol - microsoft likes to
>>> hide stuff). It was visible in millenium, but not in XP. The only way
>>> you can get it to show in windows explorer is to type its full path
>>> name in the address bar. It is quite involved, and I struck out in
>>> another site. It will take me some time to compose my post since I ran
>>> out of steam with the other group, but it will be coming. Damn it, I
>>> didn't want to start explaining it here...Pete
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes...Do the microsoft people ever respond to the posts...Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours is older (lol).
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wes...I was a little familiar with the MS-MVP's, and went to the site
>>> you provided. Could you tell me a little more about the nominations
>>> (eg who nominated you). Who usually makes the nominations - the
>>> nominee's peers or microsoft (via monitoring newsgroups - I
>>> assume)...Pete
>>>
>>
>> <snip>

Ext User(Pete)
25-07-2005, 11:33 AM
Thanks Wes...I was worried that you weren't going to respond to my new
thread on the content.IE5 folder that David Candy has me blocked out on (you
may have responded but I believe your response can be blocked also - by
setting some rules - see I read some of the sites you sent me).

David is a real asshole (I'm sorry, but read what he wrote to me in my new
content.IE5 thread). He called me a moron, and an idiot, and a cretin, and
a maggot - and IMO he is a flammer and a spammer, and a perfect asshole - I
checked in some of the other MS groups that you all frequent and I found a
vulgar thread that he was participating in (kids stuff). He is obviously a
geek that has no compassion for someone trying to learn too much about MS.
I wrote him back and told him he was an asshole, but it didn't post, and he
has blocked me in that thread, and maybe has blocked your attempt to respond
also.

Let me ask you, does he have a way of blocking me out of the whole group
(not that I would feel comfortable writing any more, knowing he would be
reading everything, and blasting me everytime I wrote something), and if he
can't, do you think it would be worth changing my ID anyway. I don't want
to do that, for various reasons, changing names back and forth, etc. I sent
a test, and a response to someone else's post, and they both posted, so
apparently he has only blocked me (and you - and anyone else) in the
content.IE5 thread only, and maybe that is all he can do, unless he has some
kind of moderator power to shut me off from the whole group.

I don't understand the block stuff completely, I thought it was just
blocking a message from showing up on my pc (if I was blocking someone), but
everyone else in the group could see it. So why can't I see the message I
wrote him (i.e. even though he can't see it because he blocked it - why
can't I see it from within the group).

Wes, I wrote you 2 e-mails about this. I assume you got them, because they
did not come back as non deliverable. Could you please respond. This has
got me very upset because I immediately liked the group (you were extremely
helpful and polite, and Patrick Keenan and Michael T were pleasant and
helpful also - and I thought I had a new group - and now this bullshit with
David Candy - he is obviously a long-standing resident here, so I don't have
a chance).

I am a retired naval architect by decree and a mechanical engineer by
degree. I used to design ships for the navy (same job for 25 years), and
took an early out when president Clinton downsized the dept. of defense in
the mid 90's. They have nothing left now - what a shame. I have some
medical problems and have been studying medicine and prescription drugs on
the Internet for many years, and I hate doctors.

Please get back to me by e-mail if you can (just take out the "nospam.").
Thanks...Pete

PS - even though you pasted most of the text in the 11kb response you sent
me, it still took a long time for you to compose it, and I learned a lot,
and certainly appreciate it, like I said...Pete


"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23Dw0P%23JkFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Pete,
>
> Most people accuse me of being a gentleman and a scoundrel. :-)
>
> Most of it was copied and pasted from other posts I've written. I learned
> a
> while ago to save anything that looked like it might be useful again. No
> sense in typing the same thing over and over.
>
> What kind of engineer?
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:uM83bT7jFHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>> Wes...Thank you so much for the most comprehensive response I have ever
>> received. You are a gentleman and a scholar, and if you don't understand
>> all the stuff about the TIF folder, and "being a shell folder with its
>> own
>> GUID", I don't have a chance (lol). You are a smart guy (like I have
>> said), and you did not waste your time writing all this, and I certainly
>> appreciate it, and have already copied it to my hard drive, via my "old
>> inbox" (you wouldn't believe all the messages I have in there - lol), and
>> you ought to see my favorite places (full of medical info).
>>
>> I am a technical person and a retired engineer, and I find everything you
>> wrote below very interesting and informative. I won't have to write the
>> long post I was going to write now (on the Content.IE5 folder). I will
>> start a new thread like you said for further comments. Thanks...Pete
>>
>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:erUlWByjFHA.3144@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Pete,
>>>
>>> Content.IE5 is not visible from Windows Explorer, it doesn't matter what
>>> settings you have set, you have to sneak up on it.
>>>
>>> According to PA Bear and Frank Saunders, "Smoke and mirrors."
>>>
>>> Temporary Internet Files folder is a Virtual Folder and a Namespace
>>> object.
>>> Has something to do with being a shell folder with its own GUID. I
>>> don't
>>> understand half of this. Anyway, moving along.
>>>
>>> Temporary Internet Files folders are Special Folders, like My Documents,
>>> My
>>> Music, My Computer, Recycle Bin, et cetera. Part of what makes them
>>> special
>>> is the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier. These are found in the
>>> registry,
>>> where the GUID is the identifier for the special folder. They are found
>>> here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID. The GUID for Temporary Internet Files is
>>> {7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}.
>>>
>>> Part of this is because of the desktop.ini file.
>>>
>>> Most Temporary Internet Files folders are Hidden and classified as
>>> system
>>> files. They are hidden from Windows Explorer and Search. The device
>>> used to hide them is the desktop.ini file. The desktop.ini signals that
>>> they are
>>> system files, hidden and if deleted, they are recreated on the next
>>> boot.
>>> To find them, you have to discover them by accident or know where to
>>> look.
>>>
>>> The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file system
>>> folder
>>> will be viewed and handled.
>>>
>>> Some info on Desktop.ini files pieced together from many sources...
>>>
>>> File system folders are commonly displayed with a standard icon and set
>>> of properties, which specify, for instance, whether or not the folder is
>>> shared. The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file
>>> system folder will be viewed and handled. The most common use of the
>>> Desktop.ini file is to assign a custom icon to a folder.
>>>
>>> The desktop.ini can have info that lists the folder as a system file,
>>> hidden
>>> and if deleted, it is recreated on the next boot. The desktop.ini can
>>> also
>>> have info like a UICLSID line that hides the folder in Windows Explorer.
>>> And
>>> a CLSID line that disables the Search utility from searching through the
>>> folder.
>>>
>>> Also the folder name info can be listed in the desktop.ini. For
>>> example,
>>> the folder Shared Documents becomes just Documents if you remove the
>>> desktop.ini.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> I have a shortcut to Content.IE5.
>>> C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>>> -----
>>>
>>> To view:
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>>
>>> Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
>>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
>>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
>>> General tab | Settings button | View Files button
>>>
>>> Or...
>>>
>>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>>
>>> paste %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>>
>>> Click OK.
>>>
>>> To view:
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5 AND \Content.MSO
>>>
>>> Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Highlight Temporary Internet
>>> Files
>>>>
>>> View Files button
>>>
>>> Or...
>>>
>>> Start | Run | Type: %tmp% | OK |
>>>
>>> You will probably have to click the Folders button on the Tool Bar.
>>> Click: [+] Temporary Internet Files
>>> Click: [+] Content.IE5
>>> Click: Random named folders
>>> View
>>> You can also view Content.MSO
>>>
>>> Or...
>>>
>>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>>
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>>>
>>> Click OK.
>>> You can also view Content.MSO
>>>
>>> Or...
>>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>>
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO
>>>
>>> Click OK.
>>>
>>> Note: Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe) will *not* clean:
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5
>>>
>>> I don't know why you can view the Content.IE5 folder with Disk Cleanup
>>> but it won't clean the folder.
>>>
>>> According to David Candy, this isn't true. This has to do with...
>>> Safely delete access time stored here (7 is days):
>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
>>> Explorer\VolumeCaches\Temporary Files\
>>> Value Name: LastAccess
>>> Value Type: REG_DWORD
>>> Value Data: 7
>>>
>>> As far as I'm concerned 7 days is too long. I suppose I could change it
>>> to
>>> 1, but I'm not worried about it, because I use Disk Cleaner.
>>>
>>> Clear the Temporary Internet Files using the Windows XP Disk Cleanup
>>> utility
>>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/clearxptif.htm
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> I use Disk Cleaner to clean out most everything on my machine along with
>>> a batch file or two.
>>>
>>> I have Disk Cleaner set to run quiet at startup. Runs for 5 seconds or
>>> so and exits. I also like the fact that, after you set it up, it cleans
>>> all the following with one click (and/or automatically at boot). Makes
>>> XP's Disk Cleanup look like a piker. XP's Disk Cleanup will *not* clean
>>> Content.IE5.
>>>
>>> Disk Cleaner will Clean:
>>> Temporary Internet Files {Including the contents of the Content.IE5
>>> folder}
>>> Internet Cookies
>>> Internet History
>>> System Temporary Folder
>>> Recent Documents
>>> Run... Dialog List
>>> Find Document List
>>> Find Computer List
>>> URLs in IE Address Bar
>>> URLs in Shell Address Bar
>>> Media Player Recent URLs
>>> WinZip Recent Files
>>> WinZip Extract To Folders
>>> Paint Recent Files
>>> WordPad Recent Files
>>> Cleans Recycle Bin (what else?)
>>> Opera Cache
>>> Opera Cookies
>>> Opera History
>>> Opera Visited links
>>> Opera Download History and Download folder
>>> Firefox Cache
>>> Firefox Cookies
>>> Firefox History
>>>
>>> Disk Cleaner
>>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~mp2004/
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> To clean out *all* Temporary Internet Files.....
>>> 1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
>>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
>>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
>>> Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed.
>>> Especially
>>> if there are a large number of files.
>>> 2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete
>>> Files
>>> 3) Check the box Delete all offline content {This cleans >>
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files AND
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>>> 4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes
>>> the
>>> temporary internet files
>>> 5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete cookies
>>> that websites have placed on your hard drive.
>>>
>>> If you want, try this: Open IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced
>>> tab
>>>>
>>> scroll down to the bottom | check: Empty Temporary Internet Files folder
>>> when browser is closed | click Apply | OK. Entirely up to you, but if
>>> you want to be rid of this, it is done automatically. Deletes the
>>> content of %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files but not the Content.IE5 or Content.MSO folders.
>>>
>>> Also: Start IE | Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Days to keep
>>> pages in history: 0 | Apply | OK.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Even with all this cleaned out
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>>> can still show that it is pretty good sized.
>>>
>>> I just cleaned mine and it is 224 KB. That's because the index.dat file
>>> is
>>> 224 KB.
>>>
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
>>>
>>> I use a batch file to delete that index.dat file when I reboot.
>>>
>>> Side note:
>>> Most index.dat files get recreated if they are deleted.
>>>
>>> %windir%\PCHealth\HelpCtr\OfflineCache\index.dat.
>>>
>>> This index.dat does not get recreated. The loss of this particular file
>>> will
>>> cripple System Information (msinfo32.exe). This index.dat actually does
>>> something besides growing to a huge size.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Content.IE5 contains all kinds of things. Files generated by Help and
>>> Support Center and Outlook Express, for example.
>>>
>>> [[Note: when viewing Newsgroup messages Outlook Express dumps a series
>>> of
>>> zero-byte files into the TIF. When Outlook Express is closed it fails to
>>> cleanup these files. To delete these zero-byte files you must select the
>>> option "Delete all offline files".]]
>>>
>>> From...
>>> Internet Explorer Tips and Tricks
>>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm
>>>
>>> [[Outlook Express 5.5 and 6 place a zero byte file in TIF for every
>>> message
>>> that you read. These files are only visible from Start | Find | Files or
>>> Folders, not from Windows Explorer. ]]
>>>
>>> [[The easy way to get rid of them if you use OE 5.5 or 6 is to open
>>> Internet
>>> Explorer and go to Tools | Internet Options. In the Temporary Internet
>>> Files
>>> Section choose "Delete files". In the next dialogue check the box for
>>> "Delete all offline content" and click "OK".]]
>>>
>>> From...
>>> CA* files in TIF
>>> http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/CA.htm
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Outlook Express creates a zero byte file for every message read. Plus
>>> wbk**.tmp files when messages are read. Plus wbk**.tmp files when you
>>> Save
>>> a message that you're working on, every time you hit Save.
>>>
>>> The zero byte files have names like [1] or [14]. The files are created
>>> in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>>>
>>> Examples...
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\1EXPNXVB\[14]
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\[54]
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\LJTLPTXJ\[25]
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\NU1KF7TX\[12]
>>>
>>> The wbk**.tmp files have names like wbk118.tmp or wbkE5.tmp The files
>>> are
>>> created in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>>>
>>> Examples...
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbk118.tmp
>>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbkC1.tmp
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Once in a while you see posts by real Microsoft employees.
>>>
>>> Nobody will fess up to nominating me. I asked my lead and I asked
>>> around.
>>>
>>> I belong to some private MVP lists and once in a while I see someone
>>> asking
>>> if nominating so-and-so is a good idea and does anyone disagree.
>>> Microsoft
>>> also has people that monitor the newsgroups and they nominate people
>>> also. -----
>>>
>>> Well this post is 11KB, I hope I covered everything. If not, Start a
>>> new
>>> thread.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>> In news:O4FAioijFHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
>>> Pete <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> hunted and pecked:
>>>> Thanks Wes...see inline comments below...Pete
>>>>
>>>> Well, thank you for reading my post. I have some good ones coming up
>>>> that I think may interest you. One of them is on the "dreaded"
>>>> invisible (and I have show hidden files checked, and hide protected
>>>> system files unchecked) folder "content.ie5" (its one of seven folders
>>>> with the same title - the other six visible), and it has a lot of crap
>>>> in 8 subfolders that I consider useless). I have XPsp2, home edition.
>>>>
>>>> I stumbled on to it by accident by right clicking its parent folder
>>>> (TIF's - which was empty after clearing cache), and I did a properties
>>>> and saw 10 subfolders and a whole bunch of files, and said HUH? My
>>>> Irfan thumbnails will show it in it's directory tree, but windows
>>>> explorer won't (another Bill Gates first - lol - microsoft likes to
>>>> hide stuff). It was visible in millenium, but not in XP. The only way
>>>> you can get it to show in windows explorer is to type its full path
>>>> name in the address bar. It is quite involved, and I struck out in
>>>> another site. It will take me some time to compose my post since I ran
>>>> out of steam with the other group, but it will be coming. Damn it, I
>>>> didn't want to start explaining it here...Pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wes...Do the microsoft people ever respond to the posts...Pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yours is older (lol).
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wes...I was a little familiar with the MS-MVP's, and went to the site
>>>> you provided. Could you tell me a little more about the nominations
>>>> (eg who nominated you). Who usually makes the nominations - the
>>>> nominee's peers or microsoft (via monitoring newsgroups - I
>>>> assume)...Pete
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>

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