GSM in Japan?

[Ext User(dsomrox@yahoo.com.au)]

I have been to Tokyo many times and have never been able to use my
6230. Yet I found this gem on the Telstra web site:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countryid=325&CFID=2801461&CFTOKEN=72860630
Have I missed something and Japan has GSM such that I can roam with my
Telstra 6230 or does the Telstra website have it wrong?


Dave

[Ext User(Simon Templar)]

dsomrox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> I have been to Tokyo many times and have never been able to use my
> 6230. Yet I found this gem on the Telstra web site:
> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countryid=325&CFID=2801461&CFTOKEN=72860630
> Have I missed something and Japan has GSM such that I can roam with my
> Telstra 6230 or does the Telstra website have it wrong?
>
>
> Dave

If you read more closely you would realise that they do not operate on
the same frequencies as Australia.

Please take note of the different frequencies on which NTT DoCoMo
provides services.

Please take note of the different frequencies on which Vodafone K.K
(J-Phone) provides services.

Your mobile phone must be able to operate on at least one of these
frequencies to be able to Internationally Roam. Check your phone manual,
or contact the phone manufacturer direct for details.


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[Ext User(John Phillips)]

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, at 02:22:10 [GMT +1000] (02:22:10 Friday, 29 July 2005
where I live) "Simon Templar" wrote:

> Please take note of the different frequencies on which NTT DoCoMo
> provides services.

So what frequencies do they operate on? Doesn't seem to be stated there?

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[Ext User(Frank)]

<dsomrox@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1122561344.605960.165050@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I have been to Tokyo many times and have never been able to use my
> 6230. Yet I found this gem on the Telstra web site:
> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countryid=325&CFID=2801461&CFTOKEN=72860630
> Have I missed something and Japan has GSM such that I can roam with my
> Telstra 6230 or does the Telstra website have it wrong?
>
>
> Dave

The Telstra website is not wrong. It clearly states that the frequencies
that the 6230 uses are not available in Japan.

Frank

[Ext User(Artoi)]

In article <1122561344.605960.165050@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
<dsomrox@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> I have been to Tokyo many times and have never been able to use my
> 6230. Yet I found this gem on the Telstra web site:
>
> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countryid=3
> 25&CFID=2801461&CFTOKEN=72860630
> Have I missed something and Japan has GSM such that I can roam with my
> Telstra 6230 or does the Telstra website have it wrong?

Yep, you'll need a rental phone as they work on a different band.
Triband nor quadband phone just won't work with the systems available
in Japan.

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[Ext User(kubalister)]

John Phillips wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, at 02:22:10 [GMT +1000] (02:22:10 Friday, 29 July 2005
> where I live) "Simon Templar" wrote:
>
>
>>Please take note of the different frequencies on which NTT DoCoMo
>>provides services.
>
>
> So what frequencies do they operate on? Doesn't seem to be stated there?

They operate on the 3G UMTS network band, i.e. 1900/2100 MHz.
Don't confuse this with the GSM1900 that is used in the USA which is
still just a standard TDMA based GSM band virtually identical to the
GSM1800 band used here in oz.

The 3G UMTS network is the same network that "3" use here in oz in the
capital cities to enable 3G video services etc. and will shortly be
available to Telstra customers under the Hutchison/Telstra 3G network
sharing arrangement.

The frequencies are shown here:
http://www.umtsworld.com/technology/frequencies.htm

Therefore, if you have a 3G UMTS / GSM900 / GSM1800 phone such as any of
the ones sold by Hutchison 3 (and soon marketed also by Telstra):
http://www.three.com.au/index.cfm?pid=2204&pageid=2204
-you could stick a Telstra SIM with an active international roaming
account into the phone and use it in Japan.

The Nokia 6230 will only work on the standard GSM900/1800 bands as well
as the GSM1900 band used in the USA, so obviously it's not going to work
whatsoever in Japan.

[Ext User(retroneo)]

I used my Three mobile there no problems. They use UMTS 2100 (3GSM)
like Three. Vodafone and DoCoMo both were available and worked.


dsomrox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> I have been to Tokyo many times and have never been able to use my
> 6230. Yet I found this gem on the Telstra web site:
> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countryid=325&CFID=2801461&CFTOKEN=72860630
> Have I missed something and Japan has GSM such that I can roam with my
> Telstra 6230 or does the Telstra website have it wrong?
>
>
> Dave

[Ext User(A User)]

On 1 Aug 2005 06:26:15 -0700, "retroneo" <retro_neo@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>I used my Three mobile there no problems. They use UMTS 2100 (3GSM)
>like Three. Vodafone and DoCoMo both were available and worked.
>
>

I don't think 3 is GSM though, is it? Isn't it a CDMA offshoot?

>dsomrox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
>> I have been to Tokyo many times and have never been able to use my
>> 6230. Yet I found this gem on the Telstra web site:
>> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countryid=325&CFID=2801461&CFTOKEN=72860630
>> Have I missed something and Japan has GSM such that I can roam with my
>> Telstra 6230 or does the Telstra website have it wrong?
>>
>>
>> Dave

[Ext User(Frank)]

"A User" <serge-newnew2715@mailblocks.com > wrote in message
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> On 1 Aug 2005 06:26:15 -0700, "retroneo" <retro_neo@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>I used my Three mobile there no problems. They use UMTS 2100 (3GSM)
>>like Three. Vodafone and DoCoMo both were available and worked.
>>
>>
>
> I don't think 3 is GSM though, is it? Isn't it a CDMA offshoot?
>

It's a GSM standard. It uses W-CDMA as its technology, which is not the same
standard as what is commonly known as CDMA.

[Ext User(A User)]

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:30:28 +1000, "Frank" <frankxxx@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>
>"A User" <serge-newnew2715@mailblocks.com > wrote in message
>news:2mbue1p2tahnkuj3g4mtl3n85md48rqduv@4ax.com...
>> On 1 Aug 2005 06:26:15 -0700, "retroneo" <retro_neo@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I used my Three mobile there no problems. They use UMTS 2100 (3GSM)
>>>like Three. Vodafone and DoCoMo both were available and worked.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't think 3 is GSM though, is it? Isn't it a CDMA offshoot?
>>
>
>It's a GSM standard. It uses W-CDMA as its technology, which is not the same
>standard as what is commonly known as CDMA.
>

Sorry, OT, ok, so when a 3G phone roams onto a gsm network, it
another part of the circuit...

[Ext User(Michael)]

"A User" <serge-newnew2715@mailblocks.com > wrote in message
news:2mbue1p2tahnkuj3g4mtl3n85md48rqduv@4ax.com...
> On 1 Aug 2005 06:26:15 -0700, "retroneo" <retro_neo@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >I used my Three mobile there no problems. They use UMTS 2100 (3GSM)
> >like Three. Vodafone and DoCoMo both were available and worked.
> >
> >
>
> I don't think 3 is GSM though, is it? Isn't it a CDMA offshoot?

Its a blend of both

[Ext User(John Phillips)]

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005, at 03:14:27 [GMT GMT] (13:14:27 Sunday, 7 August 2005
where I live) "Michael" wrote:

> Its a blend of both

So are royalties paid to Qualcomm?

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[Ext User(retroneo)]

royalties are paid to Qualcomm for both 3GSM and CDMA.