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Ext User(Stan Marsh)
02-08-2005, 12:23 AM
Heya,

A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's locked to
the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that they don't have
the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if this can be done?

3 and nokia refuse to help

Thanks

Ext User(Kwyjibo.)
02-08-2005, 12:33 AM
"Stan Marsh" <neddo69 AT hotmail DOT com> said

> Heya,
>
> A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's
> locked to the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that
> they don't have the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if
> this can be done?
>
> 3 and nokia refuse to help
>

3 will do it for a fee.


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Ext User(jb)
02-08-2005, 09:23 AM
> A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's locked
to
> the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that they don't
have
> the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if this can be done?
>
> 3 and nokia refuse to help

Keep asking around, there's always someone with the tools.
Or try putting it away for a couple weeks and then asking around again, it
can take a while for the cables to filter down to "repair shop" level.

-mark

Ext User(Stan Marsh)
02-08-2005, 10:53 PM
> > 3 and nokia refuse to help
> >
>
> 3 will do it for a fee.

My mate told me that 3 said "it can't be done". I'll tell him to try again
Thanks!

Ext User(Stan Marsh)
02-08-2005, 10:53 PM
Keep asking around, there's always someone with the tools.
> Or try putting it away for a couple weeks and then asking around again, it
> can take a while for the cables to filter down to "repair shop" level.
>
> -mark
>

Thanks Mark. We live in Albury, so there aren't many local repair stores,
but we'll keep trying.
Thanks

Ext User(Erotic Green Spores)
06-08-2005, 05:16 PM
"Stan Marsh" <neddo69 AT hotmail DOT com> writes:

>Heya,

>A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's locked to
>the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that they don't have
>the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if this can be done?

>3 and nokia refuse to help

Typical. I thought it was illegal to sell handsets locked to a particular
carrier. Wonder what the situation is in the UK with this? Any UK readers
know what the story is?

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Ext User(Chris P Bacon)
06-08-2005, 05:16 PM
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:39:04 +0000 (UTC), Erotic Green Spores
<gs@lios.apana.org.au> wrote:

>"Stan Marsh" <neddo69 AT hotmail DOT com> writes:
>
>>Heya,
>
>>A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's locked to
>>the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that they don't have
>>the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if this can be done?
>
>>3 and nokia refuse to help
>
>Typical. I thought it was illegal to sell handsets locked to a particular
>carrier. Wonder what the situation is in the UK with this? Any UK readers
>know what the story is?


not illegal at all infact most networks lock their handsets.


Chris P Bacon

Ext User(Brian Morrison)
06-08-2005, 05:16 PM
Erotic Green Spores wrote:
> "Stan Marsh" <neddo69 AT hotmail DOT com> writes:
>
>
>>Heya,
>
>
>>A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's locked to
>>the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that they don't have
>>the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if this can be done?
>
>
>>3 and nokia refuse to help
>
>
> Typical. I thought it was illegal to sell handsets locked to a particular
> carrier. Wonder what the situation is in the UK with this? Any UK readers
> know what the story is?
>

Yes, it is, sadly, legal to lock handsets. Networks will unlock with the
payment of remaining minimum contract spend plus a smallish fee (20 GBP
or so). This is despite them being able to extract their pound of flesh
via the contract and the phone being the customer's property from day 1
of said contract. Nokia SCs are under severe pressure not to unlock, in
fact soon their software will not let them do so.

3rd party unlocking is not yet here, it is close but not quite there yet.

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Ext User(Rod Speed)
06-08-2005, 05:54 PM
Erotic Green Spores <gs@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
> Stan Marsh <neddo69 AT hotmail DOT com> writes

>> Heya,

>> A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover
>> that it's locked to the 3 network. He's tried several stores,
>> but they say that they don't have the correct cables or
>> software. Does anyone know if this can be done?

>> 3 and nokia refuse to help

> Typical. I thought it was illegal to sell
> handsets locked to a particular carrier.

Nope.

> Wonder what the situation is in the UK with this?

Quite common there.

> Any UK readers know what the story is?

Ext User(Jon)
06-08-2005, 06:23 PM
gs@lios.apana.org.au declared for all the world to hear...
> >A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's locked to
> >the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that they don't have
> >the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if this can be done?

No it can't at the moment.

> >3 and nokia refuse to help

> Typical. I thought it was illegal to sell handsets locked to a particular
> carrier.

You thought wrong. The vast majority of handsets are sold locked. This
is mainly because they are subsidised.

3 would be happy to unlock the handset for the registered owner, suggest
the OP gets him/her to call 3 and request it?
--
Regards
Jon

Ext User(Simon Ough)
06-08-2005, 06:23 PM
"Brian Morrison" <scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
news:_r2dnfczV-H4Cm_fRVnyjg@eclipse.net.uk...

> Yes, it is, sadly, legal to lock handsets. Networks will unlock with the
> payment of remaining minimum contract spend plus a smallish fee (20 GBP
> or so).

Just to clarify, Orange will now only ask for the £20 unlock fee. They no
longer ask you to shell out for the rest of your contract.

However, I believe they place a note on your account to blacklist the
handset if you then default on your bills.

Simon

Ext User(Brian Morrison)
06-08-2005, 06:23 PM
Simon Ough wrote:
> "Brian Morrison" <scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:_r2dnfczV-H4Cm_fRVnyjg@eclipse.net.uk...
>
>
>>Yes, it is, sadly, legal to lock handsets. Networks will unlock with the
>>payment of remaining minimum contract spend plus a smallish fee (20 GBP
>>or so).
>
>
> Just to clarify, Orange will now only ask for the £20 unlock fee. They no
> longer ask you to shell out for the rest of your contract.
>
> However, I believe they place a note on your account to blacklist the
> handset if you then default on your bills.

Which is a distinct improvement on the previous approach, although at
one time they gave a 5% discount on the remaining months payments.

--

Brian Morrison

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Ext User(hairydog@despammed.com)
06-08-2005, 07:06 PM
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:32:05 +0100, Brian Morrison
<scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

>Yes, it is, sadly, legal to lock handsets.

Locking would appear to be an attempt to stop you using a different
sim card in the handset that you have purchased. That would make it an
illegal restraint of trade under EC legislation.

It is also illegal to sell VATable goods and then claim that 2.5% of
the sale is for card handling services. But lots of big companies do
just that, and are only beginning to be taken to court for it. That
scam costs HM Government millions every year, and they've taken ages
to sort it, so guess how quickly they will deal with handset locking,
which costs them nothing.

It is not illegal to sell locked handsets, though. That's an entirely
different can of worms.

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Ext User(Rod Speed)
06-08-2005, 07:28 PM
hairydog@despammed.com wrote
> Brian Morrison <scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote

>> Yes, it is, sadly, legal to lock handsets.

> Locking would appear to be an attempt to stop you using a
> different sim card in the handset that you have purchased. That
> would make it an illegal restraint of trade under EC legislation.

Wrong. Not all restraint of trade is illegal under EC legislation.

And EC legislation isnt necessarily overriding anyway.

> It is not illegal to sell locked handsets, though.
> That's an entirely different can of worms.

Ext User(hairydog@despammed.com)
06-08-2005, 08:23 PM
On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:53:55 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>That
>> would make it an illegal restraint of trade under EC legislation.
>
>Wrong. Not all restraint of trade is illegal under EC legislation.

I never suggested that all restraint of trade was illegal. I said that
this restraint of trade is illegal.

>And EC legislation isnt necessarily overriding anyway.

You're a member of the UKIP?


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Ext User(Rod Speed)
07-08-2005, 06:13 AM
hairydog@despammed.com wrote
> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote

>>> That would make it an illegal restraint of trade under EC legislation.

>> Wrong. Not all restraint of trade is illegal under EC legislation.

> I never suggested that all restraint of trade was illegal.
> I said that this restraint of trade is illegal.

And you are just plain wrong.

>> And EC legislation isnt necessarily overriding anyway.

> You're a member of the UKIP?

Nope.

Ext User(Michael)
07-08-2005, 01:23 PM
"jb" <abuse@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42efea0b$0$32751$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
> > Thanks Mark. We live in Albury, so there aren't many local repair
stores,
> > but we'll keep trying.
> > Thanks
>
> That does present a bit of a problem!
> Try ringing around for one who will do it at a competitive price, and post
> it off perhaps.
> 3 know the codes, hassle them, ask for the manager, then their superior,
etc
> until you piss 'em off enough that they give it to you to piss off

Why would they unlock for free? idiotic response

Ext User(Michael)
07-08-2005, 01:23 PM
"Erotic Green Spores" <gs@lios.apana.org.au> wrote in message
news:dctud8$khv$5@yoda.apana.org.au...
> "Stan Marsh" <neddo69 AT hotmail DOT com> writes:
>
> >Heya,
>
> >A mate of mine bought a new nokia 6680, only to discover that it's locked
to
> >the 3 network. He's tried several stores, but they say that they don't
have
> >the correct cables or software. Does anyone know if this can be done?
>
> >3 and nokia refuse to help
>
> Typical. I thought it was illegal to sell handsets locked to a particular
> carrier. Wonder what the situation is in the UK with this? Any UK readers

No, idiot.

> know what the story is?

Firstly, its not illegal in the UK either.Tool

Ext User(Michael)
07-08-2005, 01:23 PM
<hairydog@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:94o7f1dbbavbks63e08ra7dadt7drr44eq@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:32:05 +0100, Brian Morrison
> <scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Yes, it is, sadly, legal to lock handsets.
>
> Locking would appear to be an attempt to stop you using a different
> sim card in the handset that you have purchased. That would make it an
> illegal restraint of trade under EC legislation.

Rubbish

Ext User(hairydog@despammed.com)
08-08-2005, 06:53 AM
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 06:04:18 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> I never suggested that all restraint of trade was illegal.
>> I said that this restraint of trade is illegal.
>
>And you are just plain wrong.

That's your opinion, but I think you are wrong.


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