Re: Quality VoIP?

[Ext User(Kralizec Craig)]

"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> writes:

>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer space that
>> honoured QOS, the rest discard it.

>Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh

>Sure you dont work for Telstra?

Does anyone work for Telstra? It seems Telstra is trying to move more and
more staff into 'shell' companies. I guess the real Telstra is always going
to be just a collection of lawyers and accountants.

Craig.



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[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes

>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.

>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh

>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?

> Does anyone work for Telstra?

Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
biggest non govt employers in the country.

> It seems Telstra is trying to move more
> and more staff into 'shell' companies.

Wrong again, and those aint shell companys anyway.

> I guess the real Telstra is always going to be
> just a collection of lawyers and accountants.

Guess again.

[Ext User(will kemp)]

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:23:16 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

>> Does anyone work for Telstra?
>
> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
> biggest non govt employers in the country.

not yet. maybe one of the biggest *half* government employers.

[Ext User(thegoons)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes
>
>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.
>
>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh
>
>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?
>
>> Does anyone work for Telstra?
>
> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
> biggest non govt employers in the country.

Pity the govt still own part of it

>
>> It seems Telstra is trying to move more
>> and more staff into 'shell' companies.
>
> Wrong again, and those aint shell companys anyway.
>
>> I guess the real Telstra is always going to be
>> just a collection of lawyers and accountants.
>
> Guess again.
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?

>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>> biggest non govt employers in the country.

> not yet.

Fraid so.

> maybe one of the biggest *half* government employers.

It aint the ownership that matters,
its a commercial operation, stupid.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes

>>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.

>>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh

>>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?

>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?

>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>> biggest non govt employers in the country.

> Pity the govt still own part of it

Irrelevant. It gets all its revenue from its customers, stupid.

>>> It seems Telstra is trying to move more
>>> and more staff into 'shell' companies.

>> Wrong again, and those aint shell companys anyway.

>>> I guess the real Telstra is always going to be
>>> just a collection of lawyers and accountants.

>> Guess again.

[Ext User(Kevin Martin)]

Rod Speed wrote:

>
>
>>maybe one of the biggest *half* government employers.
>
>
> It aint the ownership that matters,
> its a commercial operation, stupid.
>
>
The Federal Govt disagree, which is why they are pushing so hard to
sell. The management of Telstra want it too - so they get the bonuses
that go with a large scale float, which regardless of the actual share
price will be *successful* as far as their contract goes.


Kevin Martin

[Ext User(will kemp)]

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:55:52 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes
>
>>>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.
>
>>>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh
>
>>>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?
>
>>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?
>
>>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>>> biggest non govt employers in the country.
>
>> Pity the govt still own part of it
>
> Irrelevant. It gets all its revenue from its customers, stupid.

kinda like the tax office, you mean???

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Kevin Martin <kevinrailway@optusnet.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?

>>>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>>>> biggest non govt employers in the country.

>>> not yet.

>> Fraid so.

>>> maybe one of the biggest *half* government employers.

>> It aint the ownership that matters,
>> its a commercial operation, stupid.

> The Federal Govt disagree,

No they dont on that stuff.

> which is why they are pushing so hard to sell.

Wrong again. They want to sell off the remaining half for other reasons.

They dont give a flying red fuck who the employer of those employees is.

> The management of Telstra want it too

No they dont on that stuff.

> - so they get the bonuses that go with a large scale float,

That aint the reason either.

> which regardless of the actual share price will be *successful* as far as
> their contract goes.

Another lie. You dont know what is in their contract.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes

>>>>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.

>>>>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh

>>>>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?

>>>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?

>>>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>>>> biggest non govt employers in the country.

>>> Pity the govt still own part of it

>> Irrelevant. It gets all its revenue from its customers, stupid.

> kinda like the tax office, you mean???

Nope, nothing like. That aint revenue for the tax dept, fuckwit.

And taxpayers arent paying for a service from the tax dept either, fuckwit.

[Ext User(will kemp)]

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:18:57 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes
>
>>>>>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>>>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.
>
>>>>>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh
>
>>>>>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?
>
>>>>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?
>
>>>>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>>>>> biggest non govt employers in the country.
>
>>>> Pity the govt still own part of it
>
>>> Irrelevant. It gets all its revenue from its customers, stupid.
>
>> kinda like the tax office, you mean???
>
> Nope, nothing like. That aint revenue for the tax dept, fuckwit.

um... like the driver and vehicle licencing dept then? (RTA in NSW.)

> And taxpayers arent paying for a service from the tax dept either, fuckwit.

yes we are. we're paying lots of money to be fucked over by the government.

[Ext User(Michael)]

"Kralizec Craig" <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote in message
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> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer space that
> >> honoured QOS, the rest discard it.
>
> >Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh
>
> >Sure you dont work for Telstra?
>
> Does anyone work for Telstra? It seems Telstra is trying to move more and
> more staff into 'shell' companies. I guess the real Telstra is always
going
> to be just a collection of lawyers and accountants.

What are you onto about? They reintegrated Sensis and NDC

[Ext User(Michael)]

"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3ltkqnF14bsigU1@individual.net...
> > Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
> >> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes
> >
> >>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
> >>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.
> >
> >>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh
> >
> >>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?
> >
> >> Does anyone work for Telstra?
> >
> > Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
> > biggest non govt employers in the country.
>
> Pity the govt still own part of it

No pity at all

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>>>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes

>>>>>>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>>>>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.

>>>>>>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh

>>>>>>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?

>>>>>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?

>>>>>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>>>>>> biggest non govt employers in the country.

>>>>> Pity the govt still own part of it

>>>> Irrelevant. It gets all its revenue from its customers, stupid.

>>> kinda like the tax office, you mean???

>> Nope, nothing like. That aint revenue for the tax dept, fuckwit.

> um... like the driver and vehicle licencing dept then? (RTA in NSW.)

Nope, still nothing like paying for a service either,
thats just another form of taxation, stupid.

>> And taxpayers arent paying for a service from the tax dept either, fuckwit.

> yes we are. we're paying lots of money
> to be fucked over by the government.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed deviant fantasyland.

[Ext User(will kemp)]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:28:54 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>>>>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes
>
>>>>>>>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>>>>>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.
>
>>>>>>>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh
>
>>>>>>>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?
>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?
>
>>>>>>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>>>>>>> biggest non govt employers in the country.
>
>>>>>> Pity the govt still own part of it
>
>>>>> Irrelevant. It gets all its revenue from its customers, stupid.
>
>>>> kinda like the tax office, you mean???
>
>>> Nope, nothing like. That aint revenue for the tax dept, fuckwit.
>
>> um... like the driver and vehicle licencing dept then? (RTA in NSW.)
>
> Nope, still nothing like paying for a service either,
> thats just another form of taxation, stupid.

you mean it *doesn't* go towards maintaining the roads?

[Ext User(Karl V)]

No Will the money goes towards paying for Rod's medication. Big budget
that one!

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> writes

>>>>>>>>>>> Last count, there were about 2 ISPs in the consumer
>>>>>>>>>>> space that honoured QOS, the rest discard it.

>>>>>>>>>> Hate that term "space" "in this space" blargh

>>>>>>>>>> Sure you dont work for Telstra?

>>>>>>>>> Does anyone work for Telstra?

>>>>>>>> Corse plenty do, it happens to be one of the
>>>>>>>> biggest non govt employers in the country.

>>>>>>> Pity the govt still own part of it

>>>>>> Irrelevant. It gets all its revenue from its customers, stupid.

>>>>> kinda like the tax office, you mean???

>>>> Nope, nothing like. That aint revenue for the tax dept, fuckwit.

>>> um... like the driver and vehicle licencing dept then? (RTA in NSW.)

>> Nope, still nothing like paying for a service either,
>> thats just another form of taxation, stupid.

> you mean it *doesn't* go towards maintaining the roads?

Corse it doesnt.