Holden on the skids

[Ext User(OzOne)]

Govt chips in $10million to help em out.


Holden job cuts 'to protect future' (guess they've had a look at the
380)


August 26, 2005


CAR maker GM Holden was trying to protect the company's future in
Australia by cutting 1400 jobs at its Adelaide vehicle assembly
operations by mid-2006, the company said today.
It said the decision was in response to global business conditions,
increasing competition from imported vehicles and changes to sales
projections.

The chairman and managing director, Denny Mooney, said the decision
was difficult, but the right one to ensure Holden's long term future.

"We need to act because the local market and exports are changing," Mr
Mooney said.

"We are oversize for what we need in coming years and we have to
protect our future in Australia."

Holden's decision will involve the company axing the third shift it
established at the Elizabeth factory in 2003 by the end of this year.

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That would cut 1000 jobs and a further 400 would be lost by the middle
of next year.

Mr Mooney said it was hoped the company could find enough employees
willing to accept voluntary separation packages to achieve the work
force reductions.

The job cuts would reduce the size of the Holden workforce at
Elizabeth to about 4300.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(mark jb)]

> Holden job cuts 'to protect future' (guess they've had a look at the
> 380)

Sumthin like that.
"Hah, with that ugly POS people will expect a wait for a new car due to
demand! We don't need all these workers, just make Joe Blo wait an extra few
weeks!"

-mark

[Ext User(Dan---)]

OzOne wrote:

>
> Mr Mooney said it was hoped the company could find enough employees
> willing to accept voluntary separation packages to achieve the work
> force reductions.

Mooney is a fuckwit anyway.
Its all the same with massive corperate operations jobs are on the line.
Telstra etc etc.

--
Regards
Dan.

[Ext User(?Andypandy)]

One shift out of 3.

Mitsibishi cannot even run one shift at half strength,

HA! HA! HA!


<OzOne> wrote in message news:u5etg1pnnhtl5okmqovm5a9j8t0h0ljq08@4ax.com...
>
>
> Govt chips in $10million to help em out.
>
>
> Holden job cuts 'to protect future' (guess they've had a look at the
> 380)
>
>
> August 26, 2005
>
>
> CAR maker GM Holden was trying to protect the company's future in
> Australia by cutting 1400 jobs at its Adelaide vehicle assembly
> operations by mid-2006, the company said today.
> It said the decision was in response to global business conditions,
> increasing competition from imported vehicles and changes to sales
> projections.
>
> The chairman and managing director, Denny Mooney, said the decision
> was difficult, but the right one to ensure Holden's long term future.
>
> "We need to act because the local market and exports are changing," Mr
> Mooney said.
>
> "We are oversize for what we need in coming years and we have to
> protect our future in Australia."
>
> Holden's decision will involve the company axing the third shift it
> established at the Elizabeth factory in 2003 by the end of this year.
>
> Advertisement:
> That would cut 1000 jobs and a further 400 would be lost by the middle
> of next year.
>
> Mr Mooney said it was hoped the company could find enough employees
> willing to accept voluntary separation packages to achieve the work
> force reductions.
>
> The job cuts would reduce the size of the Holden workforce at
> Elizabeth to about 4300.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:06:47 +1000, "?Andypandy" <hoitsmon@hogs.miale>
scribbled thusly:

>One shift out of 3.
>
>Mitsibishi cannot even run one shift at half strength,
>
>HA! HA! HA!
>

HA! HA! HA!........hey, the slide starts from the top!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:02:10 +1000, Dan--- wrote:

> OzOne wrote:
>
>>
>> Mr Mooney said it was hoped the company could find enough employees
>> willing to accept voluntary separation packages to achieve the work
>> force reductions.
>
> Mooney is a fuckwit anyway.
> Its all the same with massive corperate operations jobs are on the line.
> Telstra etc etc.

Fuckwit following orders, in fact.
Be positively awful if GM USA shunts off hundreds of thousands of pleb
workers and GM Au doesn't.

It's about face.
And stock prices,
And politicing with official bleats about the 'high' Au$.

As usual.
--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[Ext User(Noddy)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:u5etg1pnnhtl5okmqovm5a9j8t0h0ljq08@4ax.com...
>
>
> Govt chips in $10million to help em out.
>
>
> Holden job cuts 'to protect future' (guess they've had a look at the
> 380)

They're laying off the third shift. I'd hardly call that "the skids" :)

The more important point is that if sales of larger cars are affecting
Holden, who make the number one selling family sedan in the country, then
other manufacturers like Ford & Mitsubishi will be in for similar treatment.

Mitsubishi could find themselves folding altogether.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(?Andypandy)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:430ef05c@news.comindico.com.au...
>
> <OzOne> wrote in message
> news:u5etg1pnnhtl5okmqovm5a9j8t0h0ljq08@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> Govt chips in $10million to help em out.
>>
>>
>> Holden job cuts 'to protect future' (guess they've had a look at the
>> 380)
>
> They're laying off the third shift. I'd hardly call that "the skids" :)
>
> The more important point is that if sales of larger cars are affecting
> Holden, who make the number one selling family sedan in the country, then
> other manufacturers like Ford & Mitsubishi will be in for similar
> treatment.
>
> Mitsubishi could find themselves folding altogether.
>


YES SIR!!!!!

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:35:40 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au>
scribbled thusly:

>
><OzOne> wrote in message news:u5etg1pnnhtl5okmqovm5a9j8t0h0ljq08@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> Govt chips in $10million to help em out.
>>
>>
>> Holden job cuts 'to protect future' (guess they've had a look at the
>> 380)
>
>They're laying off the third shift. I'd hardly call that "the skids" :)

Noddy, Mitsu once ran 3 shifts, then 2, then 1, then slow 1.
>
>The more important point is that if sales of larger cars are affecting
>Holden, who make the number one selling family sedan in the country, then
>other manufacturers like Ford & Mitsubishi will be in for similar treatment.

Fords already in trouble...Mitsu will at least have an excellent,
brand new vehicle.
>
>Mitsubishi could find themselves folding altogether.

Always been a possibility.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:43:49 +1000, "?Andypandy" <hoitsmon@hogs.miale>
scribbled thusly:

>>
>
>
>YES SIR!!!!!
>
Simon says..Bend over and touch your toes.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(?Andypandy)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:dnstg1lmvhk8vkj1iv5sq5he517ck6sj2m@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:43:49 +1000, "?Andypandy" <hoitsmon@hogs.miale>
> scribbled thusly:
>
>>>
>>
>>
>>YES SIR!!!!!
>>
> Simon says..Bend over and touch your toes.
>


Simon says: "Now for a Rogering".

NO SIR!!!!!!

Ask Pesky. He'll oblige.


>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Serialpest)]

On 26/8/05 4:39 PM, in article u5etg1pnnhtl5okmqovm5a9j8t0h0ljq08@4ax.com,
"OzOne" <OzOne> wrote:

>
>
> Govt chips in $10million to help em out.
>
>
> Holden job cuts 'to protect future' (guess they've had a look at the
> 380)
>
>
> August 26, 2005
>
>
> CAR maker GM Holden was trying to protect the company's future in
> Australia by cutting 1400 jobs at its Adelaide vehicle assembly
> operations by mid-2006, the company said today.
> It said the decision was in response to global business conditions,
> increasing competition from imported vehicles and changes to sales
> projections.
>
> The chairman and managing director, Denny Mooney, said the decision
> was difficult, but the right one to ensure Holden's long term future.
>
> "We need to act because the local market and exports are changing," Mr
> Mooney said.
>
> "We are oversize for what we need in coming years and we have to
> protect our future in Australia."
>
> Holden's decision will involve the company axing the third shift it
> established at the Elizabeth factory in 2003 by the end of this year.
>
> Advertisement:
> That would cut 1000 jobs and a further 400 would be lost by the middle
> of next year.
>
> Mr Mooney said it was hoped the company could find enough employees
> willing to accept voluntary separation packages to achieve the work
> force reductions.
>
> The job cuts would reduce the size of the Holden workforce at
> Elizabeth to about 4300.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

That's strange. I thought Holden would need extra shifts to build all those
adventras, crewman, monaros not to mention SS Commodores that Australians
just love? Or could it be they are just not selling because they are poorly
made overpriced shitboxes? Sounds to me like they've just shit in their own
nest. The rot will surely set in once they announce the new barina, aka
Daewoo Lanos and Vectra aka Daewoo Leganza!

[Ext User(Serialpest)]

On 27/8/05 12:30 AM, in article
430f2738$0$22557$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "?Andypandy"
<hoitsmon@hogs.miale> wrote:

>
> <OzOne> wrote in message news:dnstg1lmvhk8vkj1iv5sq5he517ck6sj2m@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:43:49 +1000, "?Andypandy" <hoitsmon@hogs.miale>
>> scribbled thusly:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> YES SIR!!!!!
>>>
>> Simon says..Bend over and touch your toes.
>>
>
>
> Simon says: "Now for a Rogering".
>
> NO SIR!!!!!!
>
> Ask Pesky. He'll oblige.

Hows the girl's car going, poof? Does your boyfriend still stick his dick
through the skiport while you blow him from the boot?

[Ext User(?Andypandy)]

"Serialpest" <380@mitsubishi.com.au> wrote in message
news:BF35C830.35F01%380@mitsubishi.com.au...
> On 27/8/05 12:30 AM, in article
> 430f2738$0$22557$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "?Andypandy"
> <hoitsmon@hogs.miale> wrote:
>
>>
>> <OzOne> wrote in message
>> news:dnstg1lmvhk8vkj1iv5sq5he517ck6sj2m@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:43:49 +1000, "?Andypandy" <hoitsmon@hogs.miale>
>>> scribbled thusly:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> YES SIR!!!!!
>>>>
>>> Simon says..Bend over and touch your toes.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Simon says: "Now for a Rogering".
>>
>> NO SIR!!!!!!
>>
>> Ask Pesky. He'll oblige.
>
> Hows the girl's car going, poof? Does your boyfriend still stick his dick
> through the skiport while you blow him from the boot?
>

Ahhh Pesky!

why did you say you were my boyfriend?

[Ext User(crazy ron bakir)]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:35:40 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>The more important point is that if sales of larger cars are affecting
>Holden, who make the number one selling family sedan in the country, then
>other manufacturers like Ford & Mitsubishi will be in for similar treatment.

bingo. if fuel prices stay or rise then a 175 kW v6 is not a
market-conquering car.

australia has long protected its own car industry, similar to the
yanks, via cheap fuel prices (read: low excise).

but international market forces are overtaking that and fuel is rising
on its own, and this will force both aussie and yank manufacturers to
compete against the range of 4 cyl. car makers, including the koreans.

they can't win that battle. partly because at the moment holden are
buying their 4 cyls. off korea.

the writing is on the wall. GM and ford are now junk bonds on wall st.
fleet buyers will start walking away from v6 large cars if fuel prices
keep going up.

have you driven the latest kia rio? it's not that bad.

--

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crazy ron's mobile phones
gold coast, qld.

[Ext User(Dan---)]

crazy ron bakir wrote:

>
> have you driven the latest kia rio? it's not that bad.

Kia?
Urg.

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Regards
Dan.

[Ext User(athol)]

crazy ron bakir <support@myphoneshop.com> wrote:

> the writing is on the wall. GM and ford are now junk bonds on wall st.
> fleet buyers will start walking away from v6 large cars if fuel prices
> keep going up.

Lucky for Ford that theirs isn't a V6 then, huh?

Now they just have to fix the power deficit of the LPG model.

Time for Ford to build a dedicated LPG turbo engine for the Falcon,
preferably with LPG injection.

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[Ext User(crazy ron bakir)]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:36:26 +1000, Dan--- <farq@spam.com> wrote:


>> have you driven the latest kia rio? it's not that bad.
>
>Kia?
>Urg.

they are getting better.

--

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crazy ron's mobile phones
gold coast, qld.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"crazy ron bakir" <support@myphoneshop.com> wrote in message
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> have you driven the latest kia rio? it's not that bad.

No, I haven't, but what I've seen of Kia's recently doesn't impress me very
much.

Hyundai is far and away the best of the Korean manufacturers, and their
current crop of stuff are excellent value for money. The new V6 thing (is it
the Sonata?) looks like an outstanding buy for the dosh.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(atec)]

athol wrote:

> crazy ron bakir <support@myphoneshop.com> wrote:
>
>
>>the writing is on the wall. GM and ford are now junk bonds on wall st.
>>fleet buyers will start walking away from v6 large cars if fuel prices
>>keep going up.
>
>
> Lucky for Ford that theirs isn't a V6 then, huh?
>
> Now they just have to fix the power deficit of the LPG model.
>
> Time for Ford to build a dedicated LPG turbo engine for the Falcon,
> preferably with LPG injection.
>
Mate of mine just stopped for a tea and biscuit , his brand new v6
courier is in atm getting the first lpg conversion he knows of which he
expects to yield excellent results as its being tuned totally for gas
and will be losing a lot of spare parts .