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cvector
04-09-2005, 05:10 PM
i just saw that Target has this dvd player on special(until the 7th September) for $99.

if you look at the picture you can see it has a Divx certified stamp on the front.
http://www.target.com.au/html/catalogue3185/3185e23.htm
in the real catalogue it is clearer than that.

does anyone know anthing about this player ?

PeterPan
04-09-2005, 07:09 PM
The catalogue is a mis-print, as is the Harvey Norman catalogue, as is the Megamart catalogue, and probably all the others.

I did use this to my advantage by going into an electrical store (Bi-rite) and asking to see the divx capable dvd player for $99. Of course they had the DZ9811P but none of them had the divx logo on them, so they kindly sold me a DV9723P for $99 :). That saved me going to Megamart and trying the same thing...

The LG website does not list the DZ9811P as having divx capability.

http://au.lge.com/md/product/prodcategorylist.do?actType=detail&currPage=1&categoryId=0200000302&parentCategoryId=0200000003&categoryLevel=3&productId=1100000667

jokiin
04-09-2005, 10:37 PM
The catalogue is a mis-print, as is the Harvey Norman catalogue, as is the Megamart catalogue, and probably all the others.

The chances of them all getting it wrong is a bit slim, there is a DivX certified LG player that has been selling at various retailers in the last few weeks at $95, not sure of the model number though (it's the entry level one without the 5.1 analogue output)

alazok
05-09-2005, 07:55 AM
I also went to Harvey Norman when they falsely advertised the LG dvd player. After complaining about misleading advertisement, they sold me the DV9723P for $99 as well.
I notice Domayne also have the same player (DZ9811P) advertised for $99 but with the same misleading picture.
A bit of a whinge might get you a cheap player!

cvector
05-09-2005, 11:53 AM
The LG website does not list the DZ9811P as having divx capability.
see the samsung also on the add page ? neither target or samsungs AU website say divx for that either yet the picture shows it with a divx stamp. also go to the South African samsung page and it does list that player(exact same model number and picture) as playing divx. makes trusting what websites say a bit unreliable IMHO. ;)

there is a DivX certified LG player that has been selling at various retailers in the last few weeks at $95, not sure of the model number though
if you find out the model can you let us know ?

A bit of a whinge might get you a cheap player!
knowing what the staff are like at my local Target i wouldnt hold my breath. i once took back a bad dvd(movie) to be replaced. took over 10 minutes explaining to 2 different people i didnt want a refund but to exchange it for a working one. not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed at this Target thats for sure and not really interested in helping people. may drop in there wednesday anyway and see what they say.

jokiin
05-09-2005, 12:25 PM
if you find out the model can you let us know ?


I don't recall the model number, I was in Melbourne last week and saw a few retailers had it, it's the 2 channel one that normally retails for $139 whichever one that is.

PeterPan
05-09-2005, 09:37 PM
I also went to Harvey Norman when they falsely advertised the LG dvd player. After complaining about misleading advertisement, they sold me the DV9723P for $99 as well.
I notice Domayne also have the same player (DZ9811P) advertised for $99 but with the same misleading picture.
A bit of a whinge might get you a cheap player!

Wow, I rang Harvey Norman in Brisbane after I read (either here or whirlpool) someone had bought a DV9723P in Sydney from Harvey Norman on special for $99. The local HN guy laughed (literally) and said that was below cost price, definitely not that price in Qld. So, to get one from Harvey Norman for $99 was very well done.

I didn't have to whinge at all in Bi-Rite, just look a little disappointed and subsequently very happy.

The divx logo is definitely not on any of the DZ9811Ps in the stores, and it is the DZ9811P that everyone in Brisbane is advertising for $95 - $99 at the moment. The 9723 is the one without 5.1 output or the card reader (has optical out though) but does have divx. It has played all my xvid and divx stuff so far.

alazok
05-09-2005, 11:14 PM
I was lucky in getting the DV9723P for $99 at Harvey Norman ( I bought one for my mother as well).
The cheapest I have seen it was at Bing Lee for $136. I have looked around and have never seen the one seen pictured in the catalogues. The people at HN have no record of it either.
The LG 8900 certainly seems heavier and more expensive looking, but I am not interested in having a card reader or 5.1 channel sound. The DV9723P will do what I want it to do.
I still have my ol' XMS 888 which is still working great, the kids can have that one!

cvector
07-09-2005, 03:12 PM
well just got back from Target. got exactly what i expected...the runaround. sure enough no divx and when asked about it the young guy called a manager. now here is where the fun begins. first he tries to say that they must have sold out of the divx ones and these are the replacements. i say they have the same model number though so shouldnt they be the same. he says they just accept what they get so cant help me as thats it. so i say well its not really worth me getting when i came with the expectation of a divx capable player based on their advertising. his reply ? sorry cant help you. i actually felt like saying to him" well you are a bunch of rippoff scum who falsly advertise and expect people not to notice" but i didnt, i was nice the whole time unlike that ass. :)

oh and the samsung i mentioned also being in the catalogue with divx on it, yep the one they had didnt have divx on it either. hmm.

findog
08-09-2005, 05:24 AM
Guys, why not walk in and buy which model you want at normal RRP

:eek: Thats right, walk in, look at the price its marked at, and pay that. Don't tell me you think these LG units are overpriced... My one seems a damn decent quality build, works 100% fine, has more features than I even need, in fact the only single thing I miss on it is a volume control function, otherwise I'm amazed you can get such a versatile DVD player for ~$150ish dollars.

Just imagine how enthusiastic you would be working at a target or similar style store, when some guy winges about the unit not being divx, then actually expects to be able to buy a more expensive divx unit for the price of a non-divx cheapie. They aren't payed enough to deal with some customers in my opinion, you turn around and bag the guy even though you walked in knowing full well the unit couldn't do divx...

PeterPan
08-09-2005, 07:46 AM
Just imagine how enthusiastic you would be working at a target or similar style store, when some guy winges about the unit not being divx, then actually expects to be able to buy a more expensive divx unit for the price of a non-divx cheapie. They aren't payed enough to deal with some customers in my opinion, you turn around and bag the guy even though you walked in knowing full well the unit couldn't do divx...

Thats why after working at Dick Smiths for 1 year when I was very young convinced me that I never want to work in retail ever ever again.
Because I have a young family, money is pretty tight so the only way I could justify getting a divx dvd player was if it cost under $100 (its called a budget). I really wanted the superior quality of the LG, but it was just out of my price range (its called sticking to your budget). So after a lot of painful waiting I was able to get it and not take money away from other areas. I would love to be able to pay full price for everything and give the guy at Target a $50 tip for being helpful, maybe when I win the lotto :rolling:

cvector
08-09-2005, 01:20 PM
Just imagine how enthusiastic you would be working at a target or similar style store, when some guy winges about the unit not being divx, then actually expects to be able to buy a more expensive divx unit for the price of a non-divx cheapie.
lets get some things straight. i never whinged, i asked questions and made some observations based upon the answers i was given. they ARE paid to handle this. infact it was a manager i was dealing with who decided to try and spin a line rather than just tell me the truth. i never asked for the higher priced unit at the same price but neither did he offer anything in way of sorry for their stuff up but blatant lies. if he had said to me "sorry it was a mistake in the catalogue and the one that plays divx is actually this price" i would be more understanding. to lie to a persons face though is a different thing entirely.

They aren't payed enough to deal with some customers in my opinion, you turn around and bag the guy even though you walked in knowing full well the unit couldn't do divx...
since my wife works in retail and i also know several managers(1 is manager for an electronics chain) i actually do know how much they get paid. as i already said though, if he had just been honest with me i wouldnt have been so mad. as for me having pre-knowledge about a product... its a damn good idea for everyone. this example clearly shows not every person you talk to is going to be honest with you and you shouldnt take their word for what you should or shouldnt get. Caveat Emptor is very sound advice today IMHO.

alazok
09-09-2005, 10:42 AM
I agree with you Peter Pan....there are lots of things I would love to buy but just can't afford, so when I see a big saving on something I have wanted to buy but couldn't justify the price, I go for it. I am also a firm believer of the sqeaky door gets the oil. It can't hurt to complain and ask for compensation. They can either say yes or no....at least it gives you a chance. This dvd player is in many catalogues at the moment...try all the places...you might get lucky!

thefim
26-09-2005, 07:34 PM
Hi

Agree with you all this player does not support Div X but is a good player all the same. The problem im having is that it played UK region 2 when i got it but it is now asking me to check the region code on some of the UK disks but not others. I have went in and changed to GB to play them but still doesn't work. Does anyone have any solutions to this as i have only had players which use region numbers before but this one uses country letters eg AU for Australia and GB for Britain.

Any ideas

The Fim

JammeR
27-09-2005, 06:49 PM
i was told that $99 is below cost price and that i wouldnt be getting it at that price, are you sure u got it at $99 cose they cant make it below cost price

PeterPan
28-09-2005, 07:32 AM
i was told that $99 is below cost price and that i wouldnt be getting it at that price, are you sure u got it at $99 cose they cant make it below cost price

I presume you mean the 9723, the 9811 is $99 retail.

It appears stores can sell it below cost, and may well have their reasons for doing so. Certainly when I go looking for my next appliance I will go to BiRite first and Harvey Norman probably last due to my dealings over the 9723. I know that stock sitting around can hurt a business more than making a net loss on it (don't ask me why, I am not an accountant), naturally they couldn't consistently make a net loss...

I would say with rising petrol costs and high mortgages, many places selling entertainment devices are going to be doing anything they can to maintain cash-flow, even if it means selling a few items below cost as mr and mrs average have less and less disposable income. Just because some twit at Harvey Norman Qld won't sell me the 9723 at $99 (despite Harvey Norman in Syndey apparently doing so) doesn't mean noone will, and he has removed his store from the loop the next time I go looking for something. BTW I call him a twit because he laughed at me, having disdain for your potential customers is not a good trait.

cvector
29-09-2005, 11:29 AM
they cant make it below cost price
they, as in Target and Harvey norman etc, do not "make" the players at all. they simply buy them to sell to customers.

It appears stores can sell it below cost, and may well have their reasons for doing so.
naturally they couldn't consistently make a net loss.
yes basically keep the customer happy and the customer will buy again from you. screw the customer and he will start looking elsewhere.
as for loss, it would take much more than selling a few dvd players below(and probably not by much) cost to really make any impact on large chain stores such as the 2 i mention above. rememebr they(the companies) make millions in profits every year. of course they dont like the profits to be a couple of dollars less but it really doesnt start making them think about bankruptcy or anything. :)

the 9811 is $99 retail.
a very good point. indeed it is $99 normal price as i saw earlier this week in Target. now they have it on sale again(nice big "sale" ticket so everyone knows), guess the price ? thats right $99. want to talk about a con job ?

now some good news, for me anyway. Target as i said put out a catalogue with it "on sale" again. so i went back in this morning ready to see if i got the same guy and see if he would try and spin the same lie. i didnt however but got a different bloke who once i mention the 9811 didnt have a divx stamp on it said no worries and he would give me the divx model(yes the 9723) for the same price. sweet. :D
now as he was doing the sale he also mentioned the sale they had before and how it was mixed up then AND that he had given away the divx models for same price then aswell. hmm now thats interesting no ? to me it really makes the guy i first dealt with look even dodgier and even more blatant in his lies.

a side note. Harvey Norman did have the 9811 on sale last week here aswell and used the same picture. however in their cataloge they were smart enough to cover the end of the player, where the divx was, with a "sale" sign so nobody could claim they wanted the divx model(you could just barely see the bottom edge of the divx logo but not enough to claim it said divx). i would have though Target would have been clever enough to do that after the first mistake aswell but obviously not.

JammeR
17-10-2005, 01:13 AM
cvector think u read my post wrong, when i said they cant make i mean make the price lower, nothing to do with the building of the player

cvector
18-10-2005, 11:10 PM
when i said they cant make i mean make the price lower, nothing to do with the building of the player
aaah, gotcha. yes of course managers can reduce the price to below cost. they could give them all away for free if they wanted. of course any manager that did that may have to explain his/her actions to the people above him(head office). :)
however in the cases of a misprinted advertisment they would need to print a correction right away that it was a mistake if they wished to try and not honour it. since these were advertised in catalogues they would need to distribute the correction the same so all that got the missinformation would be informed. you will find some stores, especially large chain stores, find it easier and possibly cheaper to give away a few more expensive dvd players etc at a lower price. adds in newspapers are far cheaper and are more likly to see a correction printed however.

as a side note, Harvey Norman put out an electrical catalogue here last week and they showed the wrong player again. this time they forgot to cover the divx though. you have to wonder about these companies advertising people. :)