The new Magna

[Ext User(rmcgrice)]

http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,16747640%
255E21822,00.html

"Mark Hinchliffe
28sep05

The Magna is dead and Mitsubishi hopes the "grey cardigan" image has gone
with it.
"Although the car is based on the American PS41, Mitsubishi Motors
Australia Limited president and CEO Tom Phillips said it was much more
than a right-hand conversion project."

"It has been 70 per cent re-engineered and redesigned," he said.

Some of the 2000 changes included a full-size spare which required a
deeper boot well, reconfigured crash protection and even a gas strut on
the bonnet.

Mitsubishi invested heavily in its production, spending $250 million to
upgrade its Adelaide plant."

That seems to be an excessive amount of money, just to convert a Yanky
car to RHD??

Plus:

http://tinyurl.com/ccuxo

By the look of the specs and reports, the cardigan stays :-)
Only a 5 speed?? They are behind the eightball already.

Ron

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On 30 Sep 2005 21:59:49 GMT, rmcgrice <mcgrice@newsguy.com> scribbled
thusly:

>
>http://tinyurl.com/ccuxo
>
>By the look of the specs and reports, the cardigan stays :-)
>Only a 5 speed?? They are behind the eightball already.
>
>Ron

"The absence of a six-speed manual – the company does not have access
to one – is not really an issue."
" The five-speed auto produces sharp and smooth shifts, reflective of
the flexibility found in the more expensive top-end boxes."
"The first thing that hits you about the 380 is how balanced the car
feels. On the open road and freeway, on secondary roads or through
those tight and twisty turns, the 380 has a poise about it, a
composure lacking in some large cars."
"A car that delivers all the space, comfort and power of a large car
but combines that with the sporty good looks and handling of a small,
sportier car. That is the positioning of the new 380, a unique place."


Thanks Ron, well balanced article.
Did you read it?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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[Ext User(OzOne)]

On 30 Sep 2005 21:59:49 GMT, rmcgrice <mcgrice@newsguy.com> scribbled
thusly:

>http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,16747640%
>255E21822,00.html
>
>"Mark Hinchliffe
>28sep05
>
>The Magna is dead and Mitsubishi hopes the "grey cardigan" image has gone
>with it.


Ummm there is no new Magna.
It's gone, defunct, dead....How did you ever learn to shoot a gun when
comprehension is so bad.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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[Ext User(Jason James)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:gqgrj15bf2898t0fqa2t9srvhr32kk78um@4ax.com...
> On 30 Sep 2005 21:59:49 GMT, rmcgrice <mcgrice@newsguy.com> scribbled
> thusly:
>
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/ccuxo
> >
> >By the look of the specs and reports, the cardigan stays :-)
> >Only a 5 speed?? They are behind the eightball already.
> >
> >Ron
>
> "The absence of a six-speed manual - the company does not have access
> to one - is not really an issue."
> " The five-speed auto produces sharp and smooth shifts, reflective of
> the flexibility found in the more expensive top-end boxes."
> "The first thing that hits you about the 380 is how balanced the car
> feels. On the open road and freeway, on secondary roads or through
> those tight and twisty turns, the 380 has a poise about it, a
> composure lacking in some large cars."
> "A car that delivers all the space, comfort and power of a large car
> but combines that with the sporty good looks and handling of a small,
> sportier car. That is the positioning of the new 380, a unique place."

Good first appraisal,..the mid 15 second ET is pretty good.
A lot of people don't want a 6 speed manual,..5 are enough to play with.

Jason

[Ext User(Serialpest)]

rmcgrice wrote:
> http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,16747640%
> 255E21822,00.html
>
> "Mark Hinchliffe
> 28sep05
>
> The Magna is dead and Mitsubishi hopes the "grey cardigan" image has gone
> with it.
> "Although the car is based on the American PS41, Mitsubishi Motors
> Australia Limited president and CEO Tom Phillips said it was much more
> than a right-hand conversion project."
>
> "It has been 70 per cent re-engineered and redesigned," he said.
>
> Some of the 2000 changes included a full-size spare which required a
> deeper boot well, reconfigured crash protection and even a gas strut on
> the bonnet.
>
> Mitsubishi invested heavily in its production, spending $250 million to
> upgrade its Adelaide plant."
>
> That seems to be an excessive amount of money, just to convert a Yanky
> car to RHD??
>
> Plus:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ccuxo
>
> By the look of the specs and reports, the cardigan stays :-)
> Only a 5 speed?? They are behind the eightball already.
>
> Ron

Ron Mitsubishi were already using a 5 speed auto when your wife's falcon
was made.

[Ext User(MonoJoker)]

"Jason James" <associate@dodo.comzapspam.au> wrote in message
news:433dcbec@news.comindico.com.au...
>
> <OzOne> wrote in message
> news:gqgrj15bf2898t0fqa2t9srvhr32kk78um@4ax.com...
>> On 30 Sep 2005 21:59:49 GMT, rmcgrice <mcgrice@newsguy.com> scribbled
>> thusly:
>>
>> >
>> >http://tinyurl.com/ccuxo
>> >
>> >By the look of the specs and reports, the cardigan stays :-)
>> >Only a 5 speed?? They are behind the eightball already.
>> >
>> >Ron
>>
>> "The absence of a six-speed manual - the company does not have access
>> to one - is not really an issue."
>> " The five-speed auto produces sharp and smooth shifts, reflective of
>> the flexibility found in the more expensive top-end boxes."
>> "The first thing that hits you about the 380 is how balanced the car
>> feels. On the open road and freeway, on secondary roads or through
>> those tight and twisty turns, the 380 has a poise about it, a
>> composure lacking in some large cars."
>> "A car that delivers all the space, comfort and power of a large car
>> but combines that with the sporty good looks and handling of a small,
>> sportier car. That is the positioning of the new 380, a unique place."
>
> Good first appraisal,..the mid 15 second ET is pretty good.
> A lot of people don't want a 6 speed manual,..5 are enough to play with.

Indeed. Especially when you bring out a 6 speed manual with top so
ridiculously high that it's practically unusable except for Nullabour Plain
trips. A 5 speed auto is much more attractive to buyers, especially at
fleet level which I imagine is a major target for the new 380 given it's
marketing image and pricetag.

Cheers
LT.

[Ext User(Dan---)]

Jason James wrote:


>
> Good first appraisal,..the mid 15 second ET is pretty good.
> A lot of people don't want a 6 speed manual,..5 are enough to play with.

Yeah my Jeep GC has 5 speed auto and my Calais has 4 and that enough.
The HX has 3 but its sitting outside of the car. :-)


--
Regards
Dan.
V8 owner and will always be.
:-p

[Ext User(Dan---)]

rmcgrice wrote:

> http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,16747640%
> 255E21822,00.html
>
> "Mark Hinchliffe
> 28sep05
>
> The Magna is dead and Mitsubishi hopes the "grey cardigan" image has gone
> with it.

Grey?
Fuck they missed it with beige! Although I saw a nice TJ (02 model) VRX
which looked pretty good shame it sounded like shit at lower revs
droaned its head off.

--
Regards
Dan.
V8 owner and will always be.
:-p

[Ext User(crazy ron bakir)]

On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:01:14 GMT, "MonoJoker"
<monojoker@bigjobbys.com.au> wrote:
>
>Indeed. Especially when you bring out a 6 speed manual with top so
>ridiculously high that it's practically unusable except for Nullabour Plain
>trips.

this gear is useful for fwy travel when you have a flexible torque
band (eg v8) to reduce fuel consumption, it does wonders for holden's
hwy consumption figures

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[Ext User(Katharine & Paul)]

> The Magna is dead and Mitsubishi hopes the "grey cardigan" image has gone
> with it.
> "Although the car is based on the American PS41, Mitsubishi Motors
> Australia Limited president and CEO Tom Phillips said it was much more
> than a right-hand conversion project."
>
> "It has been 70 per cent re-engineered and redesigned," he said.
>
> Some of the 2000 changes included a full-size spare which required a
> deeper boot well, reconfigured crash protection and even a gas strut on
> the bonnet.

FUll sized spare. Why did car makers ever fit anything different.

A gas strut. Big deal. My 1981 XD had one of those


>
> Mitsubishi invested heavily in its production, spending $250 million to
> upgrade its Adelaide plant."
>
> That seems to be an excessive amount of money, just to convert a Yanky
> car to RHD??
>
> Plus:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ccuxo
>
> By the look of the specs and reports, the cardigan stays :-)
> Only a 5 speed?? They are behind the eightball already.
>
> Ron

[Ext User(Katharine & Paul)]

Any wagon?

or does mitsubishi expect us to buy a wanker tanker




"rmcgrice" <mcgrice@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96E251AF39F44nofuse@129.250.170.88...
> http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,16747640%
> 255E21822,00.html
>
> "Mark Hinchliffe
> 28sep05
>
> The Magna is dead and Mitsubishi hopes the "grey cardigan" image has gone
> with it.
> "Although the car is based on the American PS41, Mitsubishi Motors
> Australia Limited president and CEO Tom Phillips said it was much more
> than a right-hand conversion project."
>
> "It has been 70 per cent re-engineered and redesigned," he said.
>
> Some of the 2000 changes included a full-size spare which required a
> deeper boot well, reconfigured crash protection and even a gas strut on
> the bonnet.
>
> Mitsubishi invested heavily in its production, spending $250 million to
> upgrade its Adelaide plant."
>
> That seems to be an excessive amount of money, just to convert a Yanky
> car to RHD??
>
> Plus:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ccuxo
>
> By the look of the specs and reports, the cardigan stays :-)
> Only a 5 speed?? They are behind the eightball already.
>
> Ron

[Ext User(Uncle Bully)]

"Dan---" <farq@spam.com> wrote in message
news:433de2c0$0$6534$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Jason James wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Good first appraisal,..the mid 15 second ET is pretty good.
>> A lot of people don't want a 6 speed manual,..5 are enough to play with.
>
> Yeah my Jeep GC has 5 speed auto and my Calais has 4 and that enough. The
> HX has 3 but its sitting outside of the car. :-)

A mate used to have an Impala which only had a 2 speed. Slow and Cruise...
:)

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.Remove> wrote in message
news:433e6ed8$0$15567

> A mate used to have an Impala which only had a 2 speed. Slow and Cruise...
> :)

When you make enough torque to pull doen a small building, two gears are all
you need :)

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[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:34:35 GMT, "Katharine & Paul"
<NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com.au> scribbled thusly:

>Any wagon?
>
>or does mitsubishi expect us to buy a wanker tanker

Holden or Ford release a wagon at the same time as their sedan?




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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[Ext User(Dan---)]

Katharine & Paul wrote:

> Any wagon?

Nup.

>
> or does mitsubishi expect us to buy a wanker tanker

Yep and watch the resale sink.


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:-p

[Ext User(Katharine & Paul)]

The Falcon has always come out with a wagon at the same time.

Its the Fairlane where Ford is a bit slow




<OzOne> wrote in message news:356uj159coha9p95hjdf9id2vd7p3e20pg@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:34:35 GMT, "Katharine & Paul"
> <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com.au> scribbled thusly:
>
>>Any wagon?
>>
>>or does mitsubishi expect us to buy a wanker tanker
>
> Holden or Ford release a wagon at the same time as their sedan?
>
>
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Katharine & Paul)]

I want space, and I do not want a tall car.

Cross mitsubishi off my list. That only leaves Holden and Ford.

Does anyone else think it is a bit ridiculous that Toyota has a wagon in
their small car (Corolla), but deleted it from the Camry, and never offered
it in the Avalon?


"Dan---" <farq@spam.com> wrote in message
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> Katharine & Paul wrote:
>
>> Any wagon?
>
> Nup.
>
>>
>> or does mitsubishi expect us to buy a wanker tanker
>
> Yep and watch the resale sink.
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Dan.
> V8 owner and will always be.
> :-p

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:30:08 GMT, "Katharine & Paul"
<NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com.au> scribbled thusly:

>I want space, and I do not want a tall car.

What makes you think a 380 is tall?
>
>Cross mitsubishi off my list. That only leaves Holden and Ford.

You poor bastard!
>
>Does anyone else think it is a bit ridiculous that Toyota has a wagon in
>their small car (Corolla), but deleted it from the Camry, and never offered
>it in the Avalon?

Ahhh so you don't want a 'short' car, you want a wagon.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Katharine & Paul)]

my reference to a ttall car was referring to 4wd's.

I want space - so therefore a sedan based wagon. But
<OzOne> wrote in message news:03huj1l9rt86ahq1am2pjon1pu32vkcf96@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:30:08 GMT, "Katharine & Paul"
> <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com.au> scribbled thusly:
>
>>I want space, and I do not want a tall car.
>
> What makes you think a 380 is tall?
>>
>>Cross mitsubishi off my list. That only leaves Holden and Ford.
>
> You poor bastard!
>>
>>Does anyone else think it is a bit ridiculous that Toyota has a wagon in
>>their small car (Corolla), but deleted it from the Camry, and never
>>offered
>>it in the Avalon?
>
> Ahhh so you don't want a 'short' car, you want a wagon.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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"rmcgrice" <mcgrice@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,16747640%

> Mitsubishi invested heavily in its production, spending $250 million to
> upgrade its Adelaide plant."

Most of which wasn't its own money at all ...