What Tyres for 16 x 6" Factory Alloys

[Ext User(ChrisR1)]

Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus are
also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).

I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in regards
to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16 x
6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?

Cheers,

Chris

[Ext User(a9x5l)]

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:41:12 +1000, ChrisR1 wrote:

> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus are
> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).
>
> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in regards
> to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
> should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16 x
> 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>

Are you certain that the rims are 6" wide and not 7"? it seems an odd
width for a 16" rim.

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[Ext User(John_H)]

ChrisR1 wrote:
>
>I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
>standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in regards
>to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
>should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16 x
>6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?

According to the Pirelli chart I have 185 through to 225/50R16 is OK
on a 6" rim.

--
John H

[Ext User(Ben Thomas)]

ChrisR1 wrote:

> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus are
> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).
>
> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in regards
> to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
> should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16 x
> 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>

I'm pretty sure I've got 16x6 rims with 205/50/R16. Good tyres seem to cost
about $250, if you want them to last more than 30k kms.

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[Ext User(Scotty)]

"ChrisR1" <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17

Beaurepairs cataloge dated till 31/10/05 have 215/60-16's at $124 each,
directional wet weather pattern.(Sava brand)
or $149 for Dunlop sports. 225/50-16's (sava again) at $144 each for same
tyre and Eagle F1s for $205 each.

I'd check to see what width tyre is recommended for those rims and your
vehicle.

and thus are
> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).
>
> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
> regards to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling
> diameter should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK
> in a 16 x 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>

[Ext User(athol)]

ChrisR1 <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus are
> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).

Are they 6" or 6.5"?

The steelies on my AU II are 6.5 x 16 and run 215/60R16. According to the
tyre placard, the rim size options were 6.5x16 or 7x16, with 215/55R16 or
215/60R16 being listed for both widths.

> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in regards
> to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
> should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16 x
> 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?

Size diameter
225/50R16 632mm
215/55R16 642mm
215/60R16 664mm
205/65R15 661mm

So, if you're fitting them to a car that came out with 15 inch rims without
a low profile option, they're too small in diameter. If you are fitting
them to a car that came with the option of 225/50R16, they are within the
allowed 15mm. With the usual problem of the speedo over-reading, this will
make the speedo even more inaccurate.

According to the tyre and rim manual, the 225/60R16 is preferred for a 7"
rim but will fit 6", 6.5", 7.5" and 8"

Of course, with the inaccuracy of the speedo in my AU (reads 130 at 124,
for example), I'm tempted to go up in diameter when I replace the present
tyres. I'll be looking at prices but 225/60R16 is looking good ATM. 12mm
increase in diameter should roughly halve the speedo error while being
within the 15mm diameter change allowed by the RTA. The extra height will
also be good for the gravel roads that I often have to drive on...

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[Ext User(ChrisR1)]

"a9x5l" <a9x5l@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.10.02.14.41.26.693453@hotmail.com...
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:41:12 +1000, ChrisR1 wrote:
>
>> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
>> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
>> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus
>> are
>> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).
>>
>> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
>> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
>> regards
>> to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
>> should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16
>> x
>> 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>>
>
> Are you certain that the rims are 6" wide and not 7"? it seems an odd
> width for a 16" rim.
>
> --
> a9x5l


Yep 16 x 6. I'll give in to the shameful secret - they are Verada wheels
that I plan to stick on the wifes TJ Magna.

Chris

[Ext User(ChrisR1)]

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ChrisR1 wrote:
>>
>>I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
>>standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
>>regards
>>to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
>>should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16
>>x
>>6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>
> According to the Pirelli chart I have 185 through to 225/50R16 is OK
> on a 6" rim.
>
> --
> John H

Thanks John.

Chris

[Ext User(ChrisR1)]

"athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:1128304524.843317@idlweb...
> ChrisR1 <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
>> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
>> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus
>> are
>> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).
>
> Are they 6" or 6.5"?
>
> The steelies on my AU II are 6.5 x 16 and run 215/60R16. According to the
> tyre placard, the rim size options were 6.5x16 or 7x16, with 215/55R16 or
> 215/60R16 being listed for both widths.
>
>> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
>> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
>> regards
>> to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
>> should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a 16
>> x
>> 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>
> Size diameter
> 225/50R16 632mm
> 215/55R16 642mm
> 215/60R16 664mm
> 205/65R15 661mm
>
> So, if you're fitting them to a car that came out with 15 inch rims
> without
> a low profile option, they're too small in diameter. If you are fitting
> them to a car that came with the option of 225/50R16, they are within the
> allowed 15mm. With the usual problem of the speedo over-reading, this
> will
> make the speedo even more inaccurate.
>
> According to the tyre and rim manual, the 225/60R16 is preferred for a 7"
> rim but will fit 6", 6.5", 7.5" and 8"
>
> Of course, with the inaccuracy of the speedo in my AU (reads 130 at 124,
> for example), I'm tempted to go up in diameter when I replace the present
> tyres. I'll be looking at prices but 225/60R16 is looking good ATM. 12mm
> increase in diameter should roughly halve the speedo error while being
> within the 15mm diameter change allowed by the RTA. The extra height will
> also be good for the gravel roads that I often have to drive on...
>
> --
> Athol
> <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
> The state of infrastructure in New South Wales is a disgrace.
> I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

Thanks for all this Athol.

Yes, std fitment tyres are 205/65R15 so keeping the speedo within reasonable
tolerance is important. Wheels are definately 16 x 6's.

As confessed to elsewhere they are actually Verada factory alloys that I'll
throw onto the wifes TJ Magna (at least till I convince her to ditch it for
something more interesting given I've got a sensible/practical car in the BA
XT the company gives me - it'll be a while until the EH Premier gets a tart
up. Poor thing is a dust collector in the garage at the moment).

Looks like 225/50's will be too low a profile, so I guess 215/60's will be
what I'll have to go with. From the prices indicated by Scotty I need to
shop around a bit more for better prices.

Cheers all,

Chris

[Ext User(Mark)]

Hi Chris,

Check the load rating too, Magna's have a higher than average load rating
requirement on the16 inch tyres.

You can get Bridgestone 215/60 16 (same as what comes from factory) for
around $120 a piece. Check your local Bridgestone tyre centre.

Cheers.

"ChrisR1" <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:433fd56b$0$20355$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus are
> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's mentioned!).
>
> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
> regards to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling
> diameter should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK
> in a 16 x 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>

[Ext User(Dre)]

"ChrisR1" <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:1128304524.843317@idlweb...
> > ChrisR1 <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
> >> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres
in
> >> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus
> >> are
> >> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's
mentioned!).
> >
> > Are they 6" or 6.5"?
> >
> > The steelies on my AU II are 6.5 x 16 and run 215/60R16. According to
the
> > tyre placard, the rim size options were 6.5x16 or 7x16, with 215/55R16
or
> > 215/60R16 being listed for both widths.
> >
> >> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
> >> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
> >> regards
> >> to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling diameter
> >> should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a
16
> >> x
> >> 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
> >
> > Size diameter
> > 225/50R16 632mm
> > 215/55R16 642mm
> > 215/60R16 664mm
> > 205/65R15 661mm
> >
> > So, if you're fitting them to a car that came out with 15 inch rims
> > without
> > a low profile option, they're too small in diameter. If you are fitting
> > them to a car that came with the option of 225/50R16, they are within
the
> > allowed 15mm. With the usual problem of the speedo over-reading, this
> > will
> > make the speedo even more inaccurate.
> >
> > According to the tyre and rim manual, the 225/60R16 is preferred for a
7"
> > rim but will fit 6", 6.5", 7.5" and 8"
> >
> > Of course, with the inaccuracy of the speedo in my AU (reads 130 at 124,
> > for example), I'm tempted to go up in diameter when I replace the
present
> > tyres. I'll be looking at prices but 225/60R16 is looking good ATM.
12mm
> > increase in diameter should roughly halve the speedo error while being
> > within the 15mm diameter change allowed by the RTA. The extra height
will
> > also be good for the gravel roads that I often have to drive on...
> >
> > --
> > Athol
> > <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
> > The state of infrastructure in New South Wales is a disgrace.
> > I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.
>
> Thanks for all this Athol.
>
> Yes, std fitment tyres are 205/65R15 so keeping the speedo within
reasonable
> tolerance is important. Wheels are definately 16 x 6's.
>
> As confessed to elsewhere they are actually Verada factory alloys that
I'll
> throw onto the wifes TJ Magna (at least till I convince her to ditch it
for
> something more interesting given I've got a sensible/practical car in the
BA
> XT the company gives me - it'll be a while until the EH Premier gets a
tart
> up. Poor thing is a dust collector in the garage at the moment).
>
> Looks like 225/50's will be too low a profile, so I guess 215/60's will be
> what I'll have to go with. From the prices indicated by Scotty I need to
> shop around a bit more for better prices.
>
> Cheers all,
>
> Chris
>
>

Ummm, isn't a 205/65R15 tyre designed for a 15" rim?? In that case your
rims are 15x6" (which prolly makes tyres a heap easier to find)

Cheers Dre

[Ext User(ChrisR1)]

"Dre" <blah@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> "ChrisR1" <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:434104b5$0$22589$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>
>> "athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:1128304524.843317@idlweb...
>> > ChrisR1 <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which
>> >> I
>> >> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres
> in
>> >> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus
>> >> are
>> >> also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's
> mentioned!).
>> >
>> > Are they 6" or 6.5"?
>> >
>> > The steelies on my AU II are 6.5 x 16 and run 215/60R16. According to
> the
>> > tyre placard, the rim size options were 6.5x16 or 7x16, with 215/55R16
> or
>> > 215/60R16 being listed for both widths.
>> >
>> >> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
>> >> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
>> >> regards
>> >> to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling
>> >> diameter
>> >> should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be OK in a
> 16
>> >> x
>> >> 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>> >
>> > Size diameter
>> > 225/50R16 632mm
>> > 215/55R16 642mm
>> > 215/60R16 664mm
>> > 205/65R15 661mm
>> >
>> > So, if you're fitting them to a car that came out with 15 inch rims
>> > without
>> > a low profile option, they're too small in diameter. If you are
>> > fitting
>> > them to a car that came with the option of 225/50R16, they are within
> the
>> > allowed 15mm. With the usual problem of the speedo over-reading, this
>> > will
>> > make the speedo even more inaccurate.
>> >
>> > According to the tyre and rim manual, the 225/60R16 is preferred for a
> 7"
>> > rim but will fit 6", 6.5", 7.5" and 8"
>> >
>> > Of course, with the inaccuracy of the speedo in my AU (reads 130 at
>> > 124,
>> > for example), I'm tempted to go up in diameter when I replace the
> present
>> > tyres. I'll be looking at prices but 225/60R16 is looking good ATM.
> 12mm
>> > increase in diameter should roughly halve the speedo error while being
>> > within the 15mm diameter change allowed by the RTA. The extra height
> will
>> > also be good for the gravel roads that I often have to drive on...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Athol
>> > <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
>> > The state of infrastructure in New South Wales is a disgrace.
>> > I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.
>>
>> Thanks for all this Athol.
>>
>> Yes, std fitment tyres are 205/65R15 so keeping the speedo within
> reasonable
>> tolerance is important. Wheels are definately 16 x 6's.
>>
>> As confessed to elsewhere they are actually Verada factory alloys that
> I'll
>> throw onto the wifes TJ Magna (at least till I convince her to ditch it
> for
>> something more interesting given I've got a sensible/practical car in the
> BA
>> XT the company gives me - it'll be a while until the EH Premier gets a
> tart
>> up. Poor thing is a dust collector in the garage at the moment).
>>
>> Looks like 225/50's will be too low a profile, so I guess 215/60's will
>> be
>> what I'll have to go with. From the prices indicated by Scotty I need to
>> shop around a bit more for better prices.
>>
>> Cheers all,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
> Ummm, isn't a 205/65R15 tyre designed for a 15" rim?? In that case your
> rims are 15x6" (which prolly makes tyres a heap easier to find)
>
> Cheers Dre


Ummm, yeah Dre, but I'm replacing the standard 15" wheels with a set of
Alloy 16's from a Verada that I got for nothing.... Seems the 16 x 6 size of
these is a bit oddball (16 x 7 seems more common).

Chris

[Ext User(ChrisR1)]

Hi Mark,

Thanks for that. Didn't realise that was the case for the load rating.

I'll follow up on the Bridgestones.

Cheers,

Chris

"Mark" <mark@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Chris,
>
> Check the load rating too, Magna's have a higher than average load rating
> requirement on the16 inch tyres.
>
> You can get Bridgestone 215/60 16 (same as what comes from factory) for
> around $120 a piece. Check your local Bridgestone tyre centre.
>
> Cheers.
>
> "ChrisR1" <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:433fd56b$0$20355$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Managed to pick up a factory set of 16 x 6" alloys for nothing, which I
>> think the standard fitment tyres for are a 215/60R16. Thing is, tyres in
>> this size don't seem as readily available as say, a 235/45R17 and thus
>> are also dearer than you would expect (and dearer than the 17's
>> mentioned!).
>>
>> I have seen 225/50R16's tyres recently advertised for cheaper than the
>> standard 215's, but have no idea how much can be gotten away with in
>> regards to non-standard sizes. A quick maths check reveals the rolling
>> diameter should be OK, but can anyone tell me if 225/50's will still be
>> OK in a 16 x 6" wheel, particularly in regards to the wheel width?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>

[Ext User(athol)]

ChrisR1 <chrisR1@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Thanks for that. Didn't realise that was the case for the load rating.

> I'll follow up on the Bridgestones.

The minimum rating required will be printed on the tyre placard on the
vehicle. It'll specify minimum load index and capacity in kg. All
tyres legal in AU have at least one of these marked on it.

If the size that you want is slightly low in capacity, you may have to
go for a "reinforced" tyre in the same size. These have a load index
4 higher than the regular tyre and cost more...

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<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
The state of infrastructure in New South Wales is a disgrace.
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:43:12 +0930, "Mark" <mark@nospam.hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:

>Hi Chris,
>
>Check the load rating too, Magna's have a higher than average load rating
>requirement on the16 inch tyres.

Hmmmm, the 205/65 R15 is a 95H
the 215/60R16 Turanza is a 95H as is the 215/60R16 GridII
the 225/50R17 is a 93V

Don't see that any are higher than those fitted to any family sedan
>
>You can get Bridgestone 215/60 16 (same as what comes from factory) for
>around $120 a piece. Check your local Bridgestone tyre centre.

That would be the Turanza...doesn't look much, but a very good handler
with a fairly high wear rate, about 30-35K for a set on a Magna,
you'll struggle to get em for $120
>



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Mark)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:pfs4k1h5ri6qbi7b3eclcl148r6iamumb7@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:43:12 +0930, "Mark" <mark@nospam.hotmail.com>
> scribbled thusly:
>>Check the load rating too, Magna's have a higher than average load rating
>>requirement on the16 inch tyres.
>
> Hmmmm, the 205/65 R15 is a 95H
> the 215/60R16 Turanza is a 95H as is the 215/60R16 GridII
> the 225/50R17 is a 93V
>
> Don't see that any are higher than those fitted to any family sedan

Oz, I meant higher than average that can be found on some of the cheaper 16
inch tyres out there. I think Commodore has a minimum load rating
requirement of 92, and there are a lot of 16 inch tyres out there from
cheaper brands that won't have the 95 load rating.

> That would be the Turanza...doesn't look much, but a very good handler
> with a fairly high wear rate, about 30-35K for a set on a Magna,
> you'll struggle to get em for $120
>>

Agreed. A pretty good compromise tyre. Guess I got a good deal for my 4 x
16" ER30's for $420 fitted and balanced then? Was about 4 years ago though.
:-)

Cheers

>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.