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Ext User(Herpes)
03-10-2005, 01:43 AM
The Ford Made of Hemp
excerpt from:
Grown to drive ~ Metal, plastic, glass... and plants?
What kind of cars are they building?
by Curt Guyette

What some might call the car of the future has already made its big debut. The unveiling came in Dearborn - more than 50 years ago. David Morris, executive director of the Minneapolis-based Institute for Local Self-Reliance, described the event in a recent issue of his organization's newsletter:

"On August 14, 1941, at the 15th Annual Dearborn Michigan Homecoming Day celebration, Henry Ford unveiled his biological car. Seventy percent of the body of the cream-colored automobile consisted of a mat of long and short fibers from field straw, cotton linters, hemp, flax, ramie and slash pine. The other 30 percent consisted of a filler of soymeal and a liquid bioresin.

"The timing gears, horn buttons, gearshift knobs, door handles and accelerator pedals were derived from soybeans. The tires were made from goldenrods bred by Ford's close friend Thomas Edison. The gas tank contained a blend: about 85 percent gasoline and about 15 percent corn-derived ethanol."

To prove the vehicle's superiority, Ford demonstrated the strength of the car body by smashing an ax against the trunk, only to have it bounce off. For some it remains a landmark event.

"That's one of my favorite pictures," says Richard Wool, who is at the vanguard of an emerging industry that's rediscovering what Ford thought to be a better way of making cars. Following in Ford's track, Wool is developing adhesive bioresins from soy oil at the University of Delaware.

"To Henry Ford," wrote Morris, "the vegetable car was the perfect vehicle for driving the American farmer out of a 20-year economic depression. But after World War II, the maturation of the petrochemical industry and the export-driven revival of American agriculture seemed to relegate the idea of a biological car to the dustbins of history. Fifty years later, at the twilight of the 20th century, Ford's dreams are again attracting attention. Working independently, scientists, engineers and entrepreneurs are finding more and more ways to incorporate vegetable-derived products into your standard car."




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From:
Popular Mechanics, December, 1941

Over in England it's saccharine for sugar; on the continent it's charcoal "gasogenes" in the rumble seat instead of gasoline in the tank. Here in America there's plenty of sugar, plenty of gasoline. Yet there's an industrial revolution in progress just the same, a revolution in materials that will affect every home. After twelve years of research, the Ford Motor Company has completed an experimental automobile with a plastic body. Although its design takes advantage of the properties of plastics, the streamline car does not differ greatly in appearance from its steel counterpart.

The only steel in the hand-made body is found in the tubular welded frame on which are mounted 14 plastic panels, 3/16 inch thick. Composed of a mixture of farm crops and synthetic chemicals, the plastic is reported to withstand a blow 10 times as great as steel without denting. Even the windows and windshield are of plastic. The total weight of the plastic car is about 2,000 pounds, compared with 3,000 pounds for a steel automobile of the same size. Although no hint has been given as to when plastic cars may go into production, the experimental model is pictured as a step toward materialization of Henry Ford's belief that some day he would "grow automobiles from the soil."

When Henry Ford recently unveiled his plastic car, result of 12 years of research, he gave the world a glimpse of the automobile of tomorrow, its tough panels molded under hydraulic pressure of 1,500 pounds per square inch from a recipe that calls for 70 percent ofcellulose fibers from wheat straw, hemp and sisal plus 30 percent resin binder. The only steel in the car is its tubular welded frame. The plastic car weighs a ton, 1,000 pounds lighter than a comparable steel car. Manufacturers are already taking a low-priced plastic car to test the public's taste by 1943.

Ext User(Ron Olin)
03-10-2005, 02:23 AM
What ever happened to that movie made by the US department of Agriculture in
1943? (during WWII)

HEMP FOR VICTORY ~ http://tinyurl.com/4x2d

Ext User(ShazWozza)
03-10-2005, 03:15 AM
Herpes wrote:

> The Ford Made of Hemp
> excerpt from:
> Grown to drive ~ Metal, plastic, glass... and plants?
> What kind of cars are they building?
> by Curt Guyette
>

Snipped the "Beyond 1941" crap

Henry Ford got it all wrong. Imagine the environmental catastophe if the
world starting making cars from primary biomaterials and powered them from
biofuels. There would probably be no room left on the planet to grow food.

A better idea is to polymerise and reprocess shit and dead bodies into
useful plastics. This way it is a downstream product of primary food
production.

Have you heard of the fibre timing gears in early Holden engines? They might
have as well been made of shit.

Ext User(OrionCA)
03-10-2005, 03:34 AM
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:40:49 GMT, "Herpes" <Herpes@std.org> wrote:

>The Ford Made of Hemp
>excerpt from:
>Grown to drive ~ Metal, plastic, glass... and plants?
>What kind of cars are they building?
>by Curt Guyette
>
>What some might call the car of the future has already made its big =
>debut. The unveiling came in Dearborn - more than 50 years ago. David =
>Morris, executive director of the Minneapolis-based Institute for Local =
>Self-Reliance, described the event in a recent issue of his =
>organization's newsletter:

Actually, only a very small part of the car's shell was made from
hemp. You'd be more accurate calling it the "goldenrod car" because
the tires were made from pulped goldenrod stalks.

Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
still *some* and that's the sticking point. It's not as expensive as
advocates claim to extract this and growers could conceal hemp
modified for *higher* concentrations of THC among industrial hemp
plantings. Come up with a "THC - free" variety and you'll have a case
to make for allowing it in the US.
--
"It's a cliche that happens to be true: To win support,
candidates and parties have to stand for something.
They cannot be strictly against the opposition. Even
worse, they cannot be for and against what the other
side believes in."

- Boston Globe, 1/13/05
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/01/13/blurred_messages_from_democrats?mode=PF

Ext User(Ron Olin)
03-10-2005, 04:43 AM
> Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
> still *some* and that's the sticking point. It's not as expensive as
> advocates claim to extract this and growers could conceal hemp
> modified for *higher* concentrations of THC among industrial hemp
> plantings. Come up with a "THC - free" variety and you'll have a case
> to make for allowing it in the US.

If you attempt to smoke industrial hemp - you get one hell of a headache.
Ever try to get drunk from drinking near beer?

Ext User(James Of Tucson)
03-10-2005, 05:04 AM
>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
>still *some* and that's the sticking point.

Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
quite beneficial.

Ext User(OrionCA)
03-10-2005, 07:03 AM
On 2 Oct 2005 11:57:38 -0700, "James Of Tucson"
<james0tucson@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
>
>Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
>quite beneficial.

The real sticking point is that THC is illegal, has been since the
1930s, and through Republican and Democrat Administrations and
Congresses alike. Whining about it on USENET, as druggies are wont to
do, doesn't mean squat.
--
"It's a cliche that happens to be true: To win support,
candidates and parties have to stand for something.
They cannot be strictly against the opposition. Even
worse, they cannot be for and against what the other
side believes in."

- Boston Globe, 1/13/05
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/01/13/blurred_messages_from_democrats?mode=PF

Ext User(Fuzzy Wuzzy)
03-10-2005, 07:33 AM
>>
>>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
>>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
>>
>>Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
>>quite beneficial.
>
> The real sticking point is that THC is illegal, has been since the
> 1930s, and through Republican and Democrat Administrations and
> Congresses alike. Whining about it on USENET, as druggies are wont to
> do, doesn't mean squat.

But *why* was it made illegal? Come on, explain that.

Ext User(Herpes)
03-10-2005, 11:33 AM
"Fuzzy Wuzzy" <kakra@phoon.com> wrote in message news:43405048$0$4441$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
:
: >>
: >>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
: >>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
: >>
: >>Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
: >>quite beneficial.
: >
: > The real sticking point is that THC is illegal, has been since the
: > 1930s, and through Republican and Democrat Administrations and
: > Congresses alike. Whining about it on USENET, as druggies are wont to
: > do, doesn't mean squat.
:
: But *why* was it made illegal? Come on, explain that.

Careful., you'll confuse the mindless sheep..

Ext User(corks)
03-10-2005, 11:33 AM
try telling that the people that have to deal with people who have smoked so
much cannabis that they now have cannabis psychosis

"James Of Tucson" <james0tucson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1128279458.261804.272260@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
>
> Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
> quite beneficial.
>

Ext User(Mark Addinall)
03-10-2005, 12:03 PM
"OrionCA" <OrionCA@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:gu50k1lgtvm99l1qvrm1b8mdp1cctaoaui@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:40:49 GMT, "Herpes" <Herpes@std.org> wrote:
>
>>The Ford Made of Hemp
>>excerpt from:
>>Grown to drive ~ Metal, plastic, glass... and plants?
>>What kind of cars are they building?
>>by Curt Guyette
>>
>>What some might call the car of the future has already made its big =
>>debut. The unveiling came in Dearborn - more than 50 years ago. David =
>>Morris, executive director of the Minneapolis-based Institute for Local =
>>Self-Reliance, described the event in a recent issue of his =
>>organization's newsletter:
>
> Actually, only a very small part of the car's shell was made from
> hemp. You'd be more accurate calling it the "goldenrod car" because
> the tires were made from pulped goldenrod stalks.
>
> Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
> still *some* and that's the sticking point.

So does peanut oil. Peanut.

Mark Addinall.

Ext User(OrionCA)
03-10-2005, 12:03 PM
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 01:24:58 GMT, "Herpes" <Herpes@std.org> wrote:

>"Fuzzy Wuzzy" <kakra@phoon.com> wrote in message news:43405048$0$4441$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>:
>: >>
>: >>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
>: >>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
>: >>
>: >>Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
>: >>quite beneficial.
>: >
>: > The real sticking point is that THC is illegal, has been since the
>: > 1930s, and through Republican and Democrat Administrations and
>: > Congresses alike. Whining about it on USENET, as druggies are wont to
>: > do, doesn't mean squat.
>:
>: But *why* was it made illegal? Come on, explain that.
>
>Careful., you'll confuse the mindless sheep..

Once again, whining about it on USENET and "challenging" us "mindless
sheep" to justify it won't do diddly squat for your cause. You can
declare your superiority to me all you like: I don't care. You're a
pathetic little whiner who will never get what he wants.
--
"It's a cliche that happens to be true: To win support,
candidates and parties have to stand for something.
They cannot be strictly against the opposition. Even
worse, they cannot be for and against what the other
side believes in."

- Boston Globe, 1/13/05
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/01/13/blurred_messages_from_democrats?mode=PF

Ext User(Herpes)
03-10-2005, 12:03 PM
"corks" <trigarti67@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote in message news:43408817$0$19768$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
: try telling that the people that have to deal with people who have smoked so
: much cannabis that they now have cannabis psychosis
:
: "James Of Tucson" <james0tucson@gmail.com> wrote in message
: news:1128279458.261804.272260@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
: >
: >>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
: >>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
: >
: > Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
: > quite beneficial.


A miniscule minority, far far far far less than the damage done by Alcohol
and legal prescription drugs. - Ohhhhh, but that's somehow 'different'... LOL

Most of those with problems would more than likely have
gone *nuts* anyway, due to pre-existing genetic mental
problems.

If you drink too much water you will die from it - BAN WATER.
Peanuts KILL - BAN PEANUTS.

Ext User(Hunter)
03-10-2005, 12:33 PM
Yes I've heard of them. Found out the hard way on the Rockhampton
Malborough horror stretch years ago in my FB Holden. Stranded there
for three days.

Ext User(Paul)
03-10-2005, 01:23 PM
corks wrote:
> try telling that the people that have to deal with people who have smoked so
> much cannabis that they now have cannabis psychosis

If that argument is to be used to keep Cannabis illegal - then why is
alchol and tobacco legal ??

Visited a cancer ward or a rehab centre lately ??

Hemp production was halted in the thirties by the large cotton farming
lobby in the US. Some of the crap they wrote to support the ban was a
bit of a joke.


>
> "James Of Tucson" <james0tucson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1128279458.261804.272260@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
>>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
>>
>>Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
>>quite beneficial.
>>
>
>
>

Ext User(Fraser Johnston)
03-10-2005, 01:43 PM
"Paul" <none@none> wrote in message
news:4340a2d4$0$6771$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> corks wrote:
>> try telling that the people that have to deal with people who have smoked
>> so much cannabis that they now have cannabis psychosis
>
> If that argument is to be used to keep Cannabis illegal - then why is
> alchol and tobacco legal ??

It's easier to tax.

Fraser

Ext User(an)
03-10-2005, 02:23 PM
"corks" <trigarti67@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:43408817$0$19768$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> try telling that the people that have to deal with people who have smoked
> so much cannabis that they now have cannabis psychosis


But thats not a real medical condition, it was invented by the media.


>
> "James Of Tucson" <james0tucson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1128279458.261804.272260@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
>>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.
>>
>> Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
>> quite beneficial.
>>
>
>

Ext User(figjam62)
03-10-2005, 03:23 PM
"Paul" <none@none> wrote in message
news:4340a2d4$0$6771$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...

> If that argument is to be used to keep Cannabis illegal - then why is alchol and
> tobacco legal ??
>

Excises and GST.
Govco is just as addicted.

Ext User(Herpes)
03-10-2005, 04:23 PM
"OrionCA" <OrionCA@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:gr31k1dee2bkhf0le4g4eqhkbdm1sd3b02@4ax.com...
: On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 01:24:58 GMT, "Herpes" <Herpes@std.org> wrote:
:
: >"Fuzzy Wuzzy" <kakra@phoon.com> wrote in message news:43405048$0$4441$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
: >:
: >: >>
: >: >>>Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
: >: >>>still *some* and that's the sticking point.


Only because of stupid people who's fears are being manipulated
to keep this valuable non-patentable (there's the issue) resource
from becoming a competitor to highly polluting & unsustainable
oil & chemical based (but patentable) products.


: >: >>Well, the real sticking point is that THC is harmless, and may even be
: >: >>quite beneficial.


IS, not "may even be", there is plenty of good published evidence,
google is your friend :-)


: >: > The real sticking point is that THC is illegal, has been since the
: >: > 1930s, and through Republican and Democrat Administrations and
: >: > Congresses alike. Whining about it on USENET, as druggies are wont to
: >: > do, doesn't mean squat.
: >:
: >: But *why* was it made illegal? Come on, explain that.


This question is always avoided 'like the proverbial plague'...


: >Careful., you'll confuse the mindless sheep..
:
: Once again, whining about it on USENET and "challenging" us "mindless
: sheep" to justify it won't do diddly squat for your cause. You can
: declare your superiority to me all you like: I don't care. You're a
: pathetic little whiner who will never get what he wants.


Once again, another clueless whiner, trying desperately to justify
nonsense & keeping things as they are, while slowly, but surely,
things are changing, despite their misguided fear campaigns.

* Did you know that PEANUTS KILL - BAN PEANUTS.

* Did you know that drinking too much WATER KILLS - MAKE H2O ILLEGAL.

* Did you know that many prescription drugs CAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS
and MANY OTHER PROBLEMS in many patients, BAN THEM TOO.

Ext User(Herpes)
03-10-2005, 04:23 PM
"Mark Addinall" <addinall@addinall.org> wrote in message news:6d00f.5533$U51.5398@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:
: "OrionCA" <OrionCA@earthlink.net> wrote in message
: news:gu50k1lgtvm99l1qvrm1b8mdp1cctaoaui@4ax.com...
: > On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:40:49 GMT, "Herpes" <Herpes@std.org> wrote:
: >
: >>The Ford Made of Hemp
: >>excerpt from:
: >>Grown to drive ~ Metal, plastic, glass... and plants?
: >>What kind of cars are they building?
: >>by Curt Guyette
: >>
: >>What some might call the car of the future has already made its big =
: >>debut. The unveiling came in Dearborn - more than 50 years ago. David =
: >>Morris, executive director of the Minneapolis-based Institute for Local =
: >>Self-Reliance, described the event in a recent issue of his =
: >>organization's newsletter:
: >
: > Actually, only a very small part of the car's shell was made from
: > hemp. You'd be more accurate calling it the "goldenrod car" because
: > the tires were made from pulped goldenrod stalks.
: >
: > Industrial hemp has been bred to have very little THC but there is
: > still *some* and that's the sticking point.
:
: So does peanut oil. Peanut.
:
: Mark Addinall.

What food products have traces of THC?

Quite a few have very small traces of DMT.