Lens question

[Ext User(Jasen)]

Is this Tokina lens ok on both film and digital SLRs. I am assuming the
seller is reliable given their rating. What about the lens quality as the
price seems quite affordable and not around the $500 plus mark. It
apparently can be used for film and digital according to the description.
I've got a basic Tokina 35-70 lens from 14 years ago and it is nice and
sharp so I can go on that at least.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Minolta-Maxxum-7D-5D-70-50-9-7-5-4-19-35mm-Tokina-Lens_W0QQitemZ7553991504QQcategoryZ3342QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

cheers

Jasen

[Ext User(DBLEXPOSURE)]

"Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Is this Tokina lens ok on both film and digital SLRs. I am assuming the
> seller is reliable given their rating. What about the lens quality as the
> price seems quite affordable and not around the $500 plus mark. It
> apparently can be used for film and digital according to the description.
> I've got a basic Tokina 35-70 lens from 14 years ago and it is nice and
> sharp so I can go on that at least.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Minolta-Maxxum-7D-5D-70-50-9-7-5-4-19-35mm-Tokina-Lens_W0QQitemZ7553991504QQcategoryZ3342QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
>
> cheers
>
> Jasen
>
>

It might be a fair price but it is a average quality consumer lens

[Ext User(Jasen)]

"DBLEXPOSURE" <celstuff@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:JW64f.660$eL1.12670@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > Is this Tokina lens ok on both film and digital SLRs. I am assuming the
> > seller is reliable given their rating. What about the lens quality as
the
> > price seems quite affordable and not around the $500 plus mark. It
> > apparently can be used for film and digital according to the
description.
> > I've got a basic Tokina 35-70 lens from 14 years ago and it is nice and
> > sharp so I can go on that at least.
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Minolta-Maxxum-7D-5D-70-50-9-7-5-4-19-35mm-Tokina-Lens_W0QQitemZ7553991504QQcategoryZ3342QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Jasen
> >
> >
>
> It might be a fair price but it is a average quality consumer lens

Fair enough, but if it produces the same sort of quality image as my old
Tokina, then I won't be complaining as I think it is an average lens too but
I seem to get good detail from it.

[Ext User(k)]

"Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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|
| Fair enough, but if it produces the same sort of quality image as my old
| Tokina, then I won't be complaining as I think it is an average lens too
but
| I seem to get good detail from it.

If you could find the tokina 28-85 you'd be grinning - the 35-70 was, well -
mediocre

k

[Ext User(jean)]

"Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> a écrit dans le message de
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>
> "DBLEXPOSURE" <celstuff@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fsWdnQNoluh3mczeRVn-jA@midco.net...
> >
> > "Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:JW64f.660$eL1.12670@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > Is this Tokina lens ok on both film and digital SLRs. I am assuming
the
> > > seller is reliable given their rating. What about the lens quality as
> the
> > > price seems quite affordable and not around the $500 plus mark. It
> > > apparently can be used for film and digital according to the
> description.
> > > I've got a basic Tokina 35-70 lens from 14 years ago and it is nice
and
> > > sharp so I can go on that at least.
> > >
> > >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Minolta-Maxxum-7D-5D-70-50-9-7-5-4-19-35mm-Tokina-Lens_W0QQitemZ7553991504QQcategoryZ3342QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Jasen
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It might be a fair price but it is a average quality consumer lens
>
> Fair enough, but if it produces the same sort of quality image as my old
> Tokina, then I won't be complaining as I think it is an average lens too
but
> I seem to get good detail from it.
>

Don't know about Minolta lenses, but I know for sure DSLRs tend to show the
worst defects in lenses. What was a good lens with a film camera where the
odd 8x10 would be sharp enough will be a bad lens when shown on screen at
full resolution. I will not buy a lens I can not return.

my 2¢

[Ext User(JimKramer)]

I have this lens with a Canon mount. It is not a bad lens for the
price. It is prone to vignetting at 19mm on a 35mm camera, more so with
any filter or lens hood. Some distortion at wide angles, (big
surprise.) AF is quick and not prone to hunting. Plenty sharp enough
for a 6MP camera.

For the price of postage you are probably better of looking local so
you can return it if you don't like it.

Jim

[Ext User(Tony Polson)]

"Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>Is this Tokina lens ok on both film and digital SLRs. I am assuming the
>seller is reliable given their rating. What about the lens quality as the
>price seems quite affordable and not around the $500 plus mark. It
>apparently can be used for film and digital according to the description.
>I've got a basic Tokina 35-70 lens from 14 years ago and it is nice and
>sharp so I can go on that at least.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Minolta-Maxxum-7D-5D-70-50-9-7-5-4-19-35mm-Tokina-Lens_W0QQitemZ7553991504QQcategoryZ3342QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem


This is a very good lens for the money, with distortion that is well
controlled given the low price. The Cosina/Vivitar/Soligor/Phoenix
19-35mm has distortion that is fully three to four times as bad, plus
dreadful build quality. The Tokina's build quality is very good.

Sharpness is also very good. At f/8 the lens is sharp across the full
35mm film frame. Wide open, the centre is surprisingly sharp but the
edges are soft.

I use the Tokina 20-35mm which was the previous model. It has a metal
barrel (the 19-35mm is polycarbonate) but is otherwise similar. I am
very pleased with the results, especially when compared with other
consumer zooms including the far more expensive 18-35mm Nikkor.

I would not hesitate to recommend this Tokina lens.

[Ext User(k)]

"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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| "Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
|
| >Is this Tokina lens ok on both film and digital SLRs. I am assuming the
| >seller is reliable given their rating. What about the lens quality as
the
| >price seems quite affordable and not around the $500 plus mark. It
| >apparently can be used for film and digital according to the description.
| >I've got a basic Tokina 35-70 lens from 14 years ago and it is nice and
| >sharp so I can go on that at least.
| >
|
>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Minolta-Maxxum-7D-5D-70-50-9-7-5-4-19-35mm-Tokina-Le
ns_W0QQitemZ7553991504QQcategoryZ3342QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem
|
|
| This is a very good lens for the money, with distortion that is well
| controlled given the low price. The Cosina/Vivitar/Soligor/Phoenix
| 19-35mm has distortion that is fully three to four times as bad, plus
| dreadful build quality.


you've used one and can say this?

odd - you must have got the one bad one ;)

I lined up every wa I could lay my hands on at a NY retailer and tried them,
the L series canon first, then the tokina (my second choice) then the
tamron, then the Sigma before finally the salesman suggested the Phoenix.

I snapped it on the camera, dubious of the visible quality and checked
distortion against a distant counter edge at both ends, compared visible
sharpness again against all the other lenses, checked the contrast and
promptly bought two!

ANyone who's borrowed mine has exclaimed at the diminished distortion over
other WA's they've used, and similarly, the heightened contrast.

k

[Ext User(Jasen)]

"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> >Is this Tokina lens ok on both film and digital SLRs. I am assuming the
> >seller is reliable given their rating. What about the lens quality as
the
> >price seems quite affordable and not around the $500 plus mark. It
> >apparently can be used for film and digital according to the description.
> >I've got a basic Tokina 35-70 lens from 14 years ago and it is nice and
> >sharp so I can go on that at least.
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Minolta-Maxxum-7D-5D-70-50-9-7-5-4-19-35mm-Tokina-Le
ns_W0QQitemZ7553991504QQcategoryZ3342QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem
>
>
> This is a very good lens for the money, with distortion that is well
> controlled given the low price. The Cosina/Vivitar/Soligor/Phoenix
> 19-35mm has distortion that is fully three to four times as bad, plus
> dreadful build quality. The Tokina's build quality is very good.
>
> Sharpness is also very good. At f/8 the lens is sharp across the full
> 35mm film frame. Wide open, the centre is surprisingly sharp but the
> edges are soft.
>
> I use the Tokina 20-35mm which was the previous model. It has a metal
> barrel (the 19-35mm is polycarbonate) but is otherwise similar. I am
> very pleased with the results, especially when compared with other
> consumer zooms including the far more expensive 18-35mm Nikkor.
>
> I would not hesitate to recommend this Tokina lens.
>
>

Thanks guys, this is good to know.
regards,
Jasen

[sir_bazz]

Well my opinion and that of many other dslr users is that FF lenses perform better on the dslr bodies.

The smaller sensor is only exposed to light from the centre most proportion of the lens resulting in generally sharper pictures.

No more soft edges which are normally seen on less than optimum lenses.

Just my 2c.

bazz.

[Ext User(Tony Polson)]

"Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>> This is a very good lens for the money, with distortion that is well
>> controlled given the low price. The Cosina/Vivitar/Soligor/Phoenix
>> 19-35mm has distortion that is fully three to four times as bad, plus
>> dreadful build quality. The Tokina's build quality is very good.
>>
>> Sharpness is also very good. At f/8 the lens is sharp across the full
>> 35mm film frame. Wide open, the centre is surprisingly sharp but the
>> edges are soft.
>>
>> I use the Tokina 20-35mm which was the previous model. It has a metal
>> barrel (the 19-35mm is polycarbonate) but is otherwise similar. I am
>> very pleased with the results, especially when compared with other
>> consumer zooms including the far more expensive 18-35mm Nikkor.
>>
>> I would not hesitate to recommend this Tokina lens.
>>
>>
>
>Thanks guys, this is good to know.
>regards,
>Jasen


You're welcome. I omitted to mention that, at focal lengths between
24mm and 28mm, the lens is effectively distortion free.

[Ext User(MD)]

"sir_bazz" <sir_bazz.1wzebq@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Well my opinion and that of many other dslr users is that FF lenses
> perform better on the dslr bodies.

and that would be the population that use APS-C (yes the greater number of
DSLR sold)

> The smaller sensor is only exposed to light from the centre most
> proportion of the lens resulting in generally sharper pictures.
>
> No more soft edges which are normally seen on less than optimum
> lenses.

ah but when you finally upgrade that body... and when FullFrame sensor is
readily available on consumer bodies....


> Just my 2c.
>
> bazz.
> --
> sir_bazz

[Ext User(Jasen)]

"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> This is a very good lens for the money, with distortion that is well
> >> controlled given the low price. The Cosina/Vivitar/Soligor/Phoenix
> >> 19-35mm has distortion that is fully three to four times as bad, plus
> >> dreadful build quality. The Tokina's build quality is very good.
> >>
> >> Sharpness is also very good. At f/8 the lens is sharp across the full
> >> 35mm film frame. Wide open, the centre is surprisingly sharp but the
> >> edges are soft.
> >>
> >> I use the Tokina 20-35mm which was the previous model. It has a metal
> >> barrel (the 19-35mm is polycarbonate) but is otherwise similar. I am
> >> very pleased with the results, especially when compared with other
> >> consumer zooms including the far more expensive 18-35mm Nikkor.
> >>
> >> I would not hesitate to recommend this Tokina lens.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thanks guys, this is good to know.
> >regards,
> >Jasen
>
>
> You're welcome. I omitted to mention that, at focal lengths between
> 24mm and 28mm, the lens is effectively distortion free.

With regards to edge softness at wide angles, how does it rate when stopped
down to smaller apertures? Does that clear it up somewhat? I've got a
cheap Sigma 24mm f2.8 fixed lens and it has nasty softness at the edges but
is better at around f11 onwards, so assume something similar occurs.
cheers
Jasen

[sir_bazz]

ah but when you finally upgrade that body... and when FullFrame sensor is
readily available on consumer bodies....


That will also be the day that all these "digital only" lenses drop in value. Also one of the reasons that I only own lenses designed for FF bodies.

bazz.

[Ext User(Rob)]

sir_bazz wrote:

> MD Wrote:
>
>>ah but when you finally upgrade that body... and when FullFrame sensor
>>is
>>readily available on consumer bodies....
>>
>
>
> That will also be the day that all these "digital only" lenses drop in
> value. Also one of the reasons that I only own lenses designed for FF
> bodies.
>
> bazz.
>
>

There will be a bigger and better lens out by then. Surely you can't
just remain with FF lenses its not practical, I use my 12-24 Digital
quite a deal of the time.

rm

[sir_bazz]

There will be a bigger and better lens out by then. Surely you can't
just remain with FF lenses its not practical, I use my 12-24 Digital
quite a deal of the time.

rm

Hi Rob,

12-24mm is what I'm craving.
I suspect I'll end up with the recently released Pentax DA in the near future and will no longer be able to make bold statements like the one above.

cheers,
bazz.

[Ext User(MD)]

"Rob" <mesa@mine.com> wrote in message news:divkqp$ack$4@nnrp.waia.asn.au...
> sir_bazz wrote:
>
>> MD Wrote:
>>>ah but when you finally upgrade that body... and when FullFrame sensor
>>>is
>>>readily available on consumer bodies....
>>>
>>
>>
>> That will also be the day that all these "digital only" lenses drop in
>> value. Also one of the reasons that I only own lenses designed for FF
>> bodies.
>>
>> bazz.
>>
>>
>
> There will be a bigger and better lens out by then. Surely you can't just
> remain with FF lenses its not practical, I use my 12-24 Digital quite a
> deal of the time.
>
> rm

to match the FOV of 16-35 would be the 10-22mm ...

[Ext User(Tony Polson)]

"Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>With regards to edge softness at wide angles, how does it rate when stopped
>down to smaller apertures? Does that clear it up somewhat? I've got a
>cheap Sigma 24mm f2.8 fixed lens and it has nasty softness at the edges but
>is better at around f11 onwards, so assume something similar occurs.


Yes, it does. The edges are sharp at f/8, and very sharp at f/11.

[Ext User(Jasen)]

"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> >With regards to edge softness at wide angles, how does it rate when
stopped
> >down to smaller apertures? Does that clear it up somewhat? I've got a
> >cheap Sigma 24mm f2.8 fixed lens and it has nasty softness at the edges
but
> >is better at around f11 onwards, so assume something similar occurs.
>
>
> Yes, it does. The edges are sharp at f/8, and very sharp at f/11.
>
>
Good to know, thanks Tony!