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Ext User(Olfda Lertih)
17-10-2005, 12:13 PM
I've been debating on upgrading from my 1 year old Epson LCD projector,
initially I was going to pay and get a BenQ dlp or a DLP as I was
finding that DLP rainbows didn't bother me visually like I used to,
till I realised that every time I demo'd a DLP for a customer or demo'd
it for myself in the cinema room I noticed that I started feel ill in
the stomach, initially I thought this was a coincidence but
unfortunately it was not the case. Which peeved me off as I had my
heart set on a DLP now.

Problem is my room is just not suited for a SD projector, not at the
distance I am from the screen. But I'd rather wait till I have a proper
home theatre room then i'll stick a projector in it, and in the
meantime go for another option.

I've always loved the Philips Ambilight 42pf9966, when set up right
with upscaling dvd it always put out a beautiful picture, far superior
to the same sized Pioneer model(i've compared them side-by-side with
indentical boxes, cabling and channels). Overrall reviews for it have
been great. I really dig the ambilight feature too.

However they do have an Aus RRP of $49999 now.

How I can get mine now for under $3k which for that money I have no
hesitations getting one.

So anyone actually bought one of these themselves?
any opinions?

thornton melon
17-10-2005, 06:32 PM
I too like this Philips model,and concider it has a very good picture,there should be a new model out soon because all the other mfgrs.have released theirs, and it should be cheaper.
The new PANASONIC is getting rave reviews and can be haggled to $4000 or less,even the 9966 can be bought for about $4,400 or less

Ext User(mattic)
17-10-2005, 07:23 PM
I've got the 50" Ambilight and it's awesome.

"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:1129514777.037998.56530@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> I've been debating on upgrading from my 1 year old Epson LCD projector,
> initially I was going to pay and get a BenQ dlp or a DLP as I was
> finding that DLP rainbows didn't bother me visually like I used to,
> till I realised that every time I demo'd a DLP for a customer or demo'd
> it for myself in the cinema room I noticed that I started feel ill in
> the stomach, initially I thought this was a coincidence but
> unfortunately it was not the case. Which peeved me off as I had my
> heart set on a DLP now.
>
> Problem is my room is just not suited for a SD projector, not at the
> distance I am from the screen. But I'd rather wait till I have a proper
> home theatre room then i'll stick a projector in it, and in the
> meantime go for another option.
>
> I've always loved the Philips Ambilight 42pf9966, when set up right
> with upscaling dvd it always put out a beautiful picture, far superior
> to the same sized Pioneer model(i've compared them side-by-side with
> indentical boxes, cabling and channels). Overrall reviews for it have
> been great. I really dig the ambilight feature too.
>
> However they do have an Aus RRP of $49999 now.
>
> How I can get mine now for under $3k which for that money I have no
> hesitations getting one.
>
> So anyone actually bought one of these themselves?
> any opinions?
>

Ext User(gringo)
17-10-2005, 07:53 PM
where do you live?

:)

"mattic" <this@wontwork.com> wrote in message
news:TYJ4f.20141$U51.10917@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I've got the 50" Ambilight and it's awesome.
>
> "Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
> news:1129514777.037998.56530@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> I've been debating on upgrading from my 1 year old Epson LCD projector,
>> initially I was going to pay and get a BenQ dlp or a DLP as I was
>> finding that DLP rainbows didn't bother me visually like I used to,
>> till I realised that every time I demo'd a DLP for a customer or demo'd
>> it for myself in the cinema room I noticed that I started feel ill in
>> the stomach, initially I thought this was a coincidence but
>> unfortunately it was not the case. Which peeved me off as I had my
>> heart set on a DLP now.
>>
>> Problem is my room is just not suited for a SD projector, not at the
>> distance I am from the screen. But I'd rather wait till I have a proper
>> home theatre room then i'll stick a projector in it, and in the
>> meantime go for another option.
>>
>> I've always loved the Philips Ambilight 42pf9966, when set up right
>> with upscaling dvd it always put out a beautiful picture, far superior
>> to the same sized Pioneer model(i've compared them side-by-side with
>> indentical boxes, cabling and channels). Overrall reviews for it have
>> been great. I really dig the ambilight feature too.
>>
>> However they do have an Aus RRP of $49999 now.
>>
>> How I can get mine now for under $3k which for that money I have no
>> hesitations getting one.
>>
>> So anyone actually bought one of these themselves?
>> any opinions?
>>
>
>

Ext User(mattic)
17-10-2005, 10:33 PM
*under your bed.....*

"gringo" <holycrapuscuk@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:UpK4f.20166$U51.4097@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> where do you live?
>
> :)
>
> "mattic" <this@wontwork.com> wrote in message
> news:TYJ4f.20141$U51.10917@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> I've got the 50" Ambilight and it's awesome.
>>
>> "Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:1129514777.037998.56530@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>> I've been debating on upgrading from my 1 year old Epson LCD projector,
>>> initially I was going to pay and get a BenQ dlp or a DLP as I was
>>> finding that DLP rainbows didn't bother me visually like I used to,
>>> till I realised that every time I demo'd a DLP for a customer or demo'd
>>> it for myself in the cinema room I noticed that I started feel ill in
>>> the stomach, initially I thought this was a coincidence but
>>> unfortunately it was not the case. Which peeved me off as I had my
>>> heart set on a DLP now.
>>>
>>> Problem is my room is just not suited for a SD projector, not at the
>>> distance I am from the screen. But I'd rather wait till I have a proper
>>> home theatre room then i'll stick a projector in it, and in the
>>> meantime go for another option.
>>>
>>> I've always loved the Philips Ambilight 42pf9966, when set up right
>>> with upscaling dvd it always put out a beautiful picture, far superior
>>> to the same sized Pioneer model(i've compared them side-by-side with
>>> indentical boxes, cabling and channels). Overrall reviews for it have
>>> been great. I really dig the ambilight feature too.
>>>
>>> However they do have an Aus RRP of $49999 now.
>>>
>>> How I can get mine now for under $3k which for that money I have no
>>> hesitations getting one.
>>>
>>> So anyone actually bought one of these themselves?
>>> any opinions?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Ext User(Olfda Lertih)
18-10-2005, 09:53 AM
I too like the Panasonic 42" but just the price I can get the Philips
for is just too tempting. Price is below normal cost. See in many cases
when companies sell their products to a store, they usually sell one
which'll be used as a demo unit and sell it at a much lower price. Ie
the Epson TW200 cost is $1900, demo unit price is $1498 - big
difference.

The philips roughly costs stores about $3500ex GST. So if your ever
going to haggle one, haggle it because they can sell 'em for $4k and
still make a profit.

Insider info :)


thornton melon wrote:
> I too like this Philips model,and concider it has a very good
> picture,there should be a new model out soon because all the other
> mfgrs.have released theirs, and it should be cheaper.
> The new PANASONIC is getting rave reviews and can be haggled to $4000
> or less,even the 9966 can be bought for about $4,400 or less
>
>
> --
> thornton melon

SA000584
18-10-2005, 07:14 PM
I've been debating on upgrading from my 1 year old Epson LCD projector,
initially I was going to pay and get a BenQ dlp or a DLP as I was
finding that DLP rainbows didn't bother me visually like I used to,
till I realised that every time I demo'd a DLP for a customer or demo'd
it for myself in the cinema room I noticed that I started feel ill in
the stomach, initially I thought this was a coincidence but
unfortunately it was not the case. Which peeved me off as I had my
heart set on a DLP now.

Problem is my room is just not suited for a SD projector, not at the
distance I am from the screen. But I'd rather wait till I have a proper
home theatre room then i'll stick a projector in it, and in the
meantime go for another option.

I've always loved the Philips Ambilight 42pf9966, when set up right
with upscaling dvd it always put out a beautiful picture, far superior
to the same sized Pioneer model(i've compared them side-by-side with
indentical boxes, cabling and channels). Overrall reviews for it have
been great. I really dig the ambilight feature too.

However they do have an Aus RRP of $49999 now.

How I can get mine now for under $3k which for that money I have no
hesitations getting one.

So anyone actually bought one of these themselves?
any opinions?


I would hold off for six months unless the philips tv supports 1080progressive and supports HDMI. The reason is due to HD-DVD and Blu-ray players will display 1080p and you will only be able to get this quailty through a HDMI. Who knows when these players will start coming out, (they are currently saying March), but once they do you will probably see more TV's providing supporting whats required for HD-DVD and Blu-ray players. Video formats should then settle down for quite a while after that (i hope).

Ext User(Olfda Lertih)
18-10-2005, 08:13 PM
Philips is HDMI

Don't think it's 1080p, actually I dont know which plasmas are yet.

I wont be jumping on either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray bandwagon, not till there
is ONE single format out there. If there was one format, fine i'd be
jumping on the bandwagon. I personally think current dvd format is fine
with a premium dvd player, not a $99 shit-machine until common sense
has kicked in and a single standard of high definition dvd is released.


I dont like that Blu-ray is going to require authentication by having
it connected to the net, so i'm hoping HD-DVD wins out. However I will
wait this war out.

Instead I will invest in a good quality upscaling dvd player, and an
Xbox 360.

SA000584
18-10-2005, 08:29 PM
Philips is HDMI

Don't think it's 1080p, actually I dont know which plasmas are yet.

I wont be jumping on either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray bandwagon, not till there
is ONE single format out there. If there was one format, fine i'd be
jumping on the bandwagon. I personally think current dvd format is fine
with a premium dvd player, not a $99 shit-machine until common sense
has kicked in and a single standard of high definition dvd is released.


I dont like that Blu-ray is going to require authentication by having
it connected to the net, so i'm hoping HD-DVD wins out. However I will
wait this war out.

Instead I will invest in a good quality upscaling dvd player, and an
Xbox 360.

Also forgot to mention that it needs to be HDMI 1.1 or later to get the higher video format. If you are thinking about a new receiver...wait as well... Dolby have also said recently that there new audio format (Tru Dolby HD) will require HDMI 1.3 which hasn't been released yet.

Ext User(Olfda Lertih)
18-10-2005, 08:53 PM
HDMI format on the Philips accepts, 720p & 1080i

New dolby format doesn't really interest me.

I'm getting a 7.1 Channel Sherwood Newcastle Receiver, it'll hook up to
my gear through either fibre optic or coax. I only have 5.1 Speaker
setup for the moment.

Ext User(tag)
21-10-2005, 12:53 PM
"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:1129514777.037998.56530@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> I really dig the ambilight feature too.
>

does it work properly now ?

the last philips plasma i saw with this feature couldn't be switched to have
the"'ambilight" at a fixed level (which is how backlighting should work),
instead it kept changing according to what was displayed on the screen
....wrong, wrong, wrong !

Ext User(Olfda Lertih)
21-10-2005, 02:03 PM
It can be fixed or dynamic depending on how you set it.

I've never had a problem with any of the instore ones i've tested.

I've just read the new models have stereo ambilight which apparently is
awesome.

Ext User(mattic)
22-10-2005, 11:33 AM
"tag" <yourit@boo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
> news:1129514777.037998.56530@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> I really dig the ambilight feature too.
>>
>
> does it work properly now ?
>
> the last philips plasma i saw with this feature couldn't be switched to
> have
> the"'ambilight" at a fixed level (which is how backlighting should work),
> instead it kept changing according to what was displayed on the screen
> ...wrong, wrong, wrong !
>

Not so! Dynamic ambilight is bleedin' awesome!

thornton melon
22-10-2005, 07:42 PM
You should be able to screw the salesguy to $4000, and forget the Sherwood amp get the ONKYO,it will kick ASS!