Change Imei number

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

two bob <4> wrote:

>>>>>> plus the fact that changing IMEIs is illegal.

>>>>> Just for argument's sake but why is it not legal to do this?

>>>> To prevent stolen phones being rebirthed a new phones with a different
>>>> IMEI. It is also illegal to posess the tools/SW for changing IMEIs.

>>> The tools are not illegal, just the use of them

>> That is just plain wrong too.

> The tools are legal, it's the intent to use them thats illegal.

Nothing like your original.

And its actually possession with intent to
change a phone device id that is illegal.

[Ext User(will kemp)]

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:36:00 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> And its actually possession with intent to
> change a phone device id that is illegal.

True. The IMEI-related things that are illegal under the federal Criminal
Code Act 1995 are:

SECT 474.7 Modification etc. of a telecommunications device identifier

SECT 474.8 Possession or control of data or a device with intent to modify
a telecommunications device identifier

SECT 474.9 Producing, supplying or obtaining data or a device with intent
to modify a telecommunications device identifier

Will

[Ext User(ctr001@hotmail.com)]

your funny rod.

Why else would joe public have tools specificaly for changing IMEI/ESN
if they don't intend to use them?

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

ctr001@hotmail.com wrote

> your funny rod.

You're pathetic, gutless.

> Why else would joe public have tools specificaly for
> changing IMEI/ESN if they don't intend to use them?

Plenty of obvious reasons, one of them is just finding them
etc when left behind by someone else who did have that intent.

[Ext User(Alice)]

ctr001@hotmail.com wrote:
> your funny rod.

You, on the other hand, are witless, vapid and bereft of any redeeming
qualities beyond the dubious benefit of plant sustenance by the
conversion of oxygen into carbon dioxide.
>
> Why else would joe public have tools specificaly for changing IMEI/ESN
> if they don't intend to use them?
>

The words 'interest', 'curiosity' and 'research' come to mind.

Other words also come to mind, such as 'you obviously didn't think of
that did you, stupid?'

[Ext User(?andypandy?)]

"Alice" <e@shitanddie.com> wrote in message
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> ctr001@hotmail.com wrote:
>> your funny rod.


ALICE,

You can cuss better than that.

[Ext User(Bullet)]

"Alice" <e@shitanddie.com> wrote in message
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> You, on the other hand, are witless, vapid and bereft of any redeeming
> qualities beyond the dubious benefit of plant sustenance by the conversion
> of oxygen into carbon dioxide.


> The words 'interest', 'curiosity' and 'research' come to mind.
>
> Other words also come to mind, such as 'you obviously didn't think of that
> did you, stupid?'

Age must be catching up with you. Your acid tongue is letting you down
,badly.

[Ext User(ctr001@hotmail.com)]

>The words 'interest', 'curiosity' and 'research' come to mind.

>Other words also come to mind, such as 'you obviously didn't think of
>that did you, stupid?'

All of which involve using the tools - which requires intent, which is
an offence.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

ctr001@hotmail.com wrote:
> Alice <e@shitanddie.com> wrote
>> ctr001@hotmail.com wrote

>>> Why else would joe public have tools specificaly for
>>> changing IMEI/ESN if they don't intend to use them?

>> The words 'interest', 'curiosity' and 'research' come to mind.

>> Other words also come to mind, such as 'you
>> obviously didn't think of that did you, stupid?'

> All of which involve using the tools

Not necessarily to actually change an IMEI tho,
most obviously if the original IMEI is retained.

> - which requires intent, which is an offence.

Yet another pig ignorant lie.

Give up, fuckwit, you've clearly never ever had a fucking clue.

[Ext User(ctr001@hotmail.com)]

Ahh rod - you never give up do you.

I'd like to see that argument in court. Would hold as much water a
sieve.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

ctr001@hotmail.com wrote
> Rod Speed rod_speed@yahoo.com wrote
>> ctr001@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Alice <e@shitanddie.com> wrote
>>>> ctr001@hotmail.com wrote

>>>>> Why else would joe public have tools specificaly for
>>>>> changing IMEI/ESN if they don't intend to use them?

>>>> The words 'interest', 'curiosity' and 'research' come to mind.

>>>> Other words also come to mind, such as 'you
>>>> obviously didn't think of that did you, stupid?'

>>> All of which involve using the tools

>> Not necessarily to actually change an IMEI tho,
>> most obviously if the original IMEI is retained.

>>> - which requires intent, which is an offence.

>> Yet another pig ignorant lie.

>> Give up, fuckwit, you've clearly never ever had a fucking clue.

> Ahh rod - you never give up do you.

Yep, you can be completely confident that we will keep rubbing
your stupid pig ignorant nose in your terminal stupiditys for as
long as you desperately attempt to bullshit your way out of
your predicament and fool absolutely no one at all, as always.

> I'd like to see that argument in court.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
irrelevant. What you might or might not like to see in spades.

It would never get anywhere near any court without the
EVIDENCE that the IMEI was actually changed, fuckwit.

AND the evidence would need to be beyond reasonable doubt
because its a criminal matter, you silly little pig ignorant fuckwit clown.

> Would hold as much water a sieve.

Pathetic, really.

There needs to be INTENT TO CHANGE THE IEMI, FUCKWIT.

If you are just having a look at that the hardware can do,
AND DONT INTEND TO CHANGE THE IEMI, you aint
committed any crime, you silly little pig ignorant fuckwit clown.

In spades if someone you have been sharing the
house with leaves it behind when they move out too.

[Ext User(ctr001@hotmail.com)]

Thats a good one rod. Haven't seen you get so worked up for a while.

The possesion of the tools/hardware imply intent. You would be required
to proove you didn''t intend to use them to change the IMEI. Good luck
on that one.

Sort of like trying to proove you didn't put 4kg of pot in your boogie
board bag.

[Ext User(Jeremy Quirke)]

"Unkit" <Unkit.1x2rmi@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Rod Speed Wrote:
>> Unkit <Unkit.1x241v@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> > Has anyone tried changing the imei number of their phone?
>> > I was just wondering because, I have a Super sim, and it
>> > basically emulates the original sim card. If you were to make
>> > two phones have the same imei number, I was just wondering
>> > if that would make the phones receive calls simultaneously.
>>
>> The imei aint what the base calls, that's the sim, stupid.
>>
>> > Just curious :)
>>
>> Dont forget what happened to that cat.
>
>
> Oh, is that right, and exactly how do they black list a phone STUPID!
>
>
> --
> Unkit

The IMEI isn't used to page a subscriber, the TMSI is (or (more rarely) the
IMSI, if there does not exist a mapping in the VLR).

The IMEI is used purely to identify a handset, regardless of its user.

The two SIM cards you have there already have the same IMSI, but the TMSIs
will get out of sync and the behaviour at a glance would be the last to
perform Location Update would receive the call. But that's even further
complicated depending if the phones are physically in the same LA or
different LA.

[Ext User(two bob)]

"?andypandy?" <billly&ben@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alice" <e@shitanddie.com> wrote in message
> news:435e0e79$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> ctr001@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> your funny rod.
>
>
> ALICE,
>
> You can cuss better than that.

Only yanks cuss.

I have missed that built in dictionary you call a brain Alice.

[Ext User(two bob)]

> Thats a good one rod. Haven't seen you get so worked up for a while.
>
> The possesion of the tools/hardware imply intent. You would be required
> to proove you didn''t intend to use them to change the IMEI. Good luck
> on that one.

I own a car which is capable of killing fuckwits like you. Unless I intend
on killing you, my car is completely legal.


>
> Sort of like trying to proove you didn't put 4kg of pot in your boogie
> board bag.
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

ctr001@hotmail.com wrote

> Thats a good one rod. Haven't seen you get so worked up for a while.

Couldnt bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag even
if its pathetic excuse for a 'life' depended on it.

> The possesion of the tools/hardware imply intent.

BUT IS NOT PROOF BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT,
you silly little pig ignorant fuckwit clown.

> You would be required to proove you didn''t
> intend to use them to change the IMEI.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never
ever had a fucking clue about a damned thing, let alone the law.

> Good luck on that one.

> Sort of like trying to proove you didn't
> put 4kg of pot in your boogie board bag.

Nothing like, you silly little pig ignorant fuckwit clown.

[Ext User(Alice)]

> Only yanks cuss.
>
> I have missed that built in dictionary you call a brain Alice.

Me too :-)

[Ext User(Alice)]

ctr001@hotmail.com wrote:
> Thats(sic) a good one rod (sic). Haven't seen you get so worked up for a while.

Perhaps it's been a while since he's come across someone so staggeringly
devoid of reasoning and so laughably ignorant of the basic concepts of
law in this country.
>
> The possesion (sic) of the tools/hardware imply intent.

Implication doesn't constitute proof, except perhaps in the deep reaches
of your fervid imagination, sonny.

You would be required
> to proove (sic) you didn''t (sic) intend to use them to change the IMEI.

Perhaps in Lower Botswanaland where you obviously gained that
frighteningly limited education of yours, boyo. But here in Australia we
put the onus of proof upon the prosecution, not the prosecuted.

> Good luck on that one.


> Sort of like trying to proove (sic) you didn't put 4kg of pot in your boogie
> board bag.


Wrong country, fool. Foot change time.

[Ext User(HeppiTroutPotatoB)]

"Alice" <e@shitanddie.com> wrote in message
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>> Sort of like trying to proove (sic) you didn't put 4kg of pot in your
>> boogie
>> board bag.
>
>
> Wrong country, fool. Foot change time.

Great, JJCOOL posted about a week ago too.

[Ext User(Alice)]

HeppiTroutPotatoB wrote:
> "Alice" <e@shitanddie.com> wrote in message
> news:436019b1$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
>
>>>Sort of like trying to proove (sic) you didn't put 4kg of pot in your
>>>boogie
>>>board bag.
>>
>>
>>Wrong country, fool. Foot change time.
>
>
> Great, JJCOOL posted about a week ago too.
>
>

Yeah? Must be school holiday time in South Oz.