4WD owners are homophobes!

[Ext User(John_H)]

A recently posted link to highly misleading taxpayer funded anti-4WD
propaganda, albeit a little dated, has me wondering just how the
campaign might be progressing.

For those who may have missed it, the link is....
http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rn/2003-04/04rn27.htm

By inference, it passes off what are clearly US figures as being
relevent to Oz. It provides no references for the source of its data
but appears to draw heavily on an Australian Transport Safety Bureau
(ATSB) report... ATSB Monograph 11, 'Fatal four wheel drive crashes',
4 September 2002.

Good luck to anyone who thinks they may be able to find a copy... it
appears to be restricted to anti-4WD interests.

Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf

(If you don't already know who the Australia Institute are, try
google.)

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John H

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf

Wow, that was really funny.

What the opinion of homosexuality has to do with the "dangers" of a large
4wd being used in suburbia is beyond me, but the researchers obviously
thought it was relevant.

Such "studies" only serve to make the anti-4wd'ers look like insecure
fucking idiots :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Dan---)]

Noddy wrote:


> Wow, that was really funny.
>
> What the opinion of homosexuality has to do with the "dangers" of a large
> 4wd being used in suburbia is beyond me, but the researchers obviously
> thought it was relevant.

Just more wailing for them to pull excuses out of their Jacksy.

>
> Such "studies" only serve to make the anti-4wd'ers look like insecure
> fucking idiots :)

Most of them are probably lisping prancy little poofy hair dressers.
That would scream rape by a girl in a 4x4. :-)

--
Regards
Dan.

[Ext User(John_H)]

Noddy wrote:
>
>Such "studies" only serve to make the anti-4wd'ers look like insecure
>fucking idiots :)

I've already written to my MHR stating concerns at the taxpayer funded
anti-4WD propaganda that's most likely a precursor to restrictions and
impositions being placed on 4WD owners.... And I don't even own a
passenger 4WD.

Anyone else who's concerned by the activities of these Government
sponsored ratbags ought do the same.

You can find the details and address of your MHR here....
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-alpha.asp

--
John H

[Ext User(Patrick Young)]

John_H wrote:

> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf

ROTFLMAO. So someone actually paid those turkeys to
come up with that anal dribble?

> (If you don't already know who the Australia Institute are, try
> google.)

Do I really care? :-)

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Tel: 292 91 52
Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone else who's concerned by the activities of these Government
> sponsored ratbags ought do the same.
>
> You can find the details and address of your MHR here....
> http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-alpha.asp

Good idea.

I pay enough in taxes without seeing it squandered on such utter bullshit...

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(rmcgrice)]

Dan--- <mitsu380gutlesspig@isp.com> wrote in
news:43558851$0$28058$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

> Noddy wrote:
>
>
>> Wow, that was really funny.
>>
>> What the opinion of homosexuality has to do with the "dangers" of a
>> large 4wd being used in suburbia is beyond me, but the researchers
>> obviously thought it was relevant.
>
> Just more wailing for them to pull excuses out of their Jacksy.
>
>>
>> Such "studies" only serve to make the anti-4wd'ers look like insecure
>> fucking idiots :)
>
> Most of them are probably lisping prancy little poofy hair dressers.
> That would scream rape by a girl in a 4x4. :-)
>

Doubt it!
Hair dressers and girls get along really well, most share a lot in
common.
Girls who drive 4WD's, not provided by "Hubby" are possibly more likely
to rape their own :-)

[Ext User(John_H)]

Patrick Young wrote:
>
>John_H wrote:
>
>> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
>> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf
>
>ROTFLMAO. So someone actually paid those turkeys to
>come up with that anal dribble?

You and I are the ones who footed the bill! :(

--
John H

[Ext User(Patrick Young)]

John_H wrote:
> Patrick Young wrote:

>>John_H wrote:

>>>Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
>>>http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf

>>ROTFLMAO. So someone actually paid those turkeys to
>>come up with that anal dribble?

> You and I are the ones who footed the bill! :(

Was afraid of that. No one else would be stupid enough
to pay them for that effort :-(

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4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre,
BP 106 Timbuktu,
Mali (West Africa)
Tel: 292 91 52
Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon

[Ext User(Robert Irvine)]

You have to love the 'questions' that were asked to obtain the
conclusions.
From the article^h^h^h^h^h^h^h crap in the link.

Statement
1. I'm a bit of an intellectual
2. I believe a percentage of everyone's income should go to charities
3. I regularly go to church or my place of worship
4. I think it is the government's duty to support those who can't find
work
5. I believe homosexuality is immoral
6. I find technology is changing so fast, it's difficult to keep up with
7. I sometimes use force to get things done
8. I'm a 'Mr Fix It' type of person
9. I like to go away on weekends
10. I like to take my holidays away from crowds
Source: Roy Morgan Research, October 2003-September 2004

(see it, and the actual results on page 7 of the document)

Rob.

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:p7qal1lpkpglrd04fe1tmk666uaq25795h@4ax.com...
>
>> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
>> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf
>
> Wow, that was really funny.
>
> What the opinion of homosexuality has to do with the "dangers" of a
> large 4wd being used in suburbia is beyond me, but the researchers
> obviously thought it was relevant.
>
> Such "studies" only serve to make the anti-4wd'ers look like insecure
> fucking idiots :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Ext User(Patrick Young)]

Robert Irvine wrote:

> You have to love the 'questions' that were asked to obtain the
> conclusions.
> From the article^h^h^h^h^h^h^h crap in the link.

LOL! Silly questions, I'll take a punt ...

> 1. I'm a bit of an intellectual

Yup, when I need to be.

> 2. I believe a percentage of everyone's income should go to charities

Dunno, maybe, depends which.

> 3. I regularly go to church or my place of worship

No chance.

> 4. I think it is the government's duty to support those who can't find
> work

Dunno, maybe, depends which.

> 5. I believe homosexuality is immoral

Nup.

> 6. I find technology is changing so fast, it's difficult to keep up with

Yup, and I'll add a lot of it is ill thought out crap because of that
when you really study it.

> 7. I sometimes use force to get things done

Don't understand the question. No, tends to break things,
or upset people.

> 8. I'm a 'Mr Fix It' type of person

Yup, have to be - that's the way life works.

> 9. I like to go away on weekends

Not enough time in a weekend to do that.

> 10. I like to take my holidays away from crowds

10000% yup. There a problem with that?

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4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre,
BP 106 Timbuktu,
Mali (West Africa)
Tel: 292 91 52
Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon

[Ext User(Michael C)]

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:p7qal1lpkpglrd04fe1tmk666uaq25795h@4ax.com...
> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf
>
> (If you don't already know who the Australia Institute are, try
> google.)

hehe, what a waste of money. Next they'll be doing a study to see if men
prefer skinny women with big tits....

Michael

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:59:06 +1000, John_H <john4271@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>A recently posted link to highly misleading taxpayer funded anti-4WD
>propaganda, albeit a little dated, has me wondering just how the
>campaign might be progressing.
>
>For those who may have missed it, the link is....
>http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rn/2003-04/04rn27.htm
>
>By inference, it passes off what are clearly US figures as being
>relevent to Oz. It provides no references for the source of its data
>but appears to draw heavily on an Australian Transport Safety Bureau
>(ATSB) report... ATSB Monograph 11, 'Fatal four wheel drive crashes',
>4 September 2002.
>
>Good luck to anyone who thinks they may be able to find a copy... it
>appears to be restricted to anti-4WD interests.

http://www.atsb.gov.au/road/mgraph/mgraph11/mono11.pdf


Maybe its only available to people who arn't intimidated by the
complexity of the internet?

>Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
>http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf
>
>(If you don't already know who the Australia Institute are, try
>google.)

Whe gives a fuck, the article as you stated drew heavily from an ATSB
document.

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:18:55 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>
>"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:p7qal1lpkpglrd04fe1tmk666uaq25795h@4ax.com...
>
>> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
>> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf
>
>Wow, that was really funny.
>
>What the opinion of homosexuality has to do with the "dangers" of a large
>4wd being used in suburbia is beyond me, but the researchers obviously
>thought it was relevant.

and this comment just goes to show how 'intellectually challenged'
some 4wd punters are. Did you just read through the article and skip
the big words you didn't understand?

>Such "studies" only serve to make the anti-4wd'ers look like insecure
>fucking idiots :)

Believe it or not, I partially agree with you but there could be an
element of truth in there findings.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4355ecfc.86661171@203.50.2.233...

> and this comment just goes to show how 'intellectually challenged'
> some 4wd punters are. Did you just read through the article and skip
> the big words you didn't understand?

What part of homosexuality do you personally think is relevant to 4wd use?

Why such a topic even managed to find it's way into such a report is
amazing, and I'm genuinely bemused as to why they felt such owner
perceptions where necessary when I can't think of a single such report from
anyone that has even gone close to such things.

That the topic was even mentioned suggests to me that the entire report has
the integrity of snake shit.

> Believe it or not, I partially agree with you but there could be an
> element of truth in there findings.

With all due respect, the fact that you think that way doesn't surprise me
at all.

If we were to conduct a survey on the "value" of Ford Falcons to society,
and discovered that 50% of owners were pseudo-intellectual "Mr Fixit" poofs,
I can't think how that would be even remotely relevant to the car at all.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:43:30 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>
>"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ck5bl1hnokm3cfb0s06i6be3vauhlpk1sr@4ax.com...
>
>> Anyone else who's concerned by the activities of these Government
>> sponsored ratbags ought do the same.
>>
>> You can find the details and address of your MHR here....
>> http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-alpha.asp
>
>Good idea.
>
>I pay enough in taxes without seeing it squandered on such utter bullshit...

I though you were retired?

[Ext User(Cartman)]

I think I need glasses. I was hoping this was about how 4WD owners are
homos.
I was hoping to get some names for my friends here in aus.cars that I
suspect are hiding in the closet.

John_H wrote:
> A recently posted link to highly misleading taxpayer funded anti-4WD
> propaganda, albeit a little dated, has me wondering just how the
> campaign might be progressing.
>
> For those who may have missed it, the link is....
> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rn/2003-04/04rn27.htm
>
> By inference, it passes off what are clearly US figures as being
> relevent to Oz. It provides no references for the source of its data
> but appears to draw heavily on an Australian Transport Safety Bureau
> (ATSB) report... ATSB Monograph 11, 'Fatal four wheel drive crashes',
> 4 September 2002.
>
> Good luck to anyone who thinks they may be able to find a copy... it
> appears to be restricted to anti-4WD interests.
>
> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf
>
> (If you don't already know who the Australia Institute are, try
> google.)
>
> --
> John H

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:02:22 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>
>"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4355ecfc.86661171@203.50.2.233...
>
>> and this comment just goes to show how 'intellectually challenged'
>> some 4wd punters are. Did you just read through the article and skip
>> the big words you didn't understand?
>
>What part of homosexuality do you personally think is relevant to 4wd use?

Taking one point in isolation to prove your point doesn't cut it. No
doubt your unaware what the meaning of demographics is.

>Why such a topic even managed to find it's way into such a report is
>amazing, and I'm genuinely bemused as to why they felt such owner
>perceptions where necessary when I can't think of a single such report from
>anyone that has even gone close to such things.

Driver demographics. I would imagine marketing companies would use
this sort of report. At least they know that its pointless to try
selling 'fudge packer lube' to gung ho 4wd owners :)

>That the topic was even mentioned suggests to me that the entire report has
>the integrity of snake shit.

I believe snake shit holds together quite well :)

>> Believe it or not, I partially agree with you but there could be an
>> element of truth in there findings.
>
>With all due respect, the fact that you think that way doesn't surprise me
>at all.
>
>If we were to conduct a survey on the "value" of Ford Falcons to society,
>and discovered that 50% of owners were pseudo-intellectual "Mr Fixit" poofs,
>I can't think how that would be even remotely relevant to the car at all.

Nice veiled insult :)

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:58:56 +1000, John_H <john4271@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Patrick Young wrote:
>>
>>John_H wrote:
>>
>>> Now there's this little gem, hot off the press....
>>> http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/4WD.pdf
>>
>>ROTFLMAO. So someone actually paid those turkeys to
>>come up with that anal dribble?
>
>You and I are the ones who footed the bill! :(

Did you and Patrick make donations or commision this paper then? -

The Australia Institute is an independent public policy research
centre funded by grants from philanthropic trusts, memberships and
commissioned research.

[Ext User(John_H)]

Kieron wrote:
>
>The Australia Institute is an independent public policy research
>centre funded by grants from philanthropic trusts, memberships and
>commissioned research.

"Research" commissioned by whom?

Their own stated position... 'the Institute undertakes research and
analysis commissioned and paid for by government'

Take a look at their directors list, and see how many you can find
whose salaries are paid from the public purse -- at least one of whom
I happen to have known personally (from when I worked for Govco).

The rest appear to be professional shit stirrers.

Independent my arse!

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John H