"Car giants back ethanol-blended petrol"

[Ext User(Sarch)]

Unfortunately the article's light on details.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/car-giants-back-ethanolblended-petrol/2005/10/19/1129401279581.html
Car giants back ethanol-blended petrol
October 19, 2005 - 6:22AM

The car industry has thrown its weight behind ethanol-blended petrol.

Carmakers will tell drivers from next year that petrol blended with 10
per cent ethanol, known as E10, is safe for vehicles and will not affect
warranties.

The message will be placed on every petrol-cap flap from January, it was
reported today.

The backflip follows a series of meetings between cabinet ministers and
the chief executives of Ford, Holden, Toyota and Mitsubishi.

Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane said he would urge international
carmakers to consider using E10 labelling for cars imported into
Australia.

- AAP

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Sarch wrote:
> Unfortunately the article's light on details.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/car-giants-back-ethanolblended-petrol/2005/10/19/1129401279581.html
> Car giants back ethanol-blended petrol
> October 19, 2005 - 6:22AM
>
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>
> Sarch

I have no doubt that once ethanol takes off, there'll be a few petrol
companies who don't put any of the stuff into their premium fuels.
Regular unleaded petrol will drop a few cents with E10, making the gap
between high end premium petrols (Optimax, Synergy 8000, Ultimate 98
etc) even bigger, anywhere up to 20c more at the pump.

The price of E10 petrol will gradually creep up to the same price that
standard unleaded is now, of course, the gap between E10 and premium
will remain at 20c or so. Anyone who finds that their vehicle doesn't
run well on E10 will be forced to purchase more expensive fuel, or
purchase a new car with a warranty that covers ethanol use.

Of course, this won't happen if our PM, with the interests of all
Australians in mind, mandates 10% Ethanol to be compulsory in *all*
petrol, to keep his mates in the Ethanol industry happy. His spin will
be "It won't be compulsory to purchase E10, it will be compulsory to
sell E10." The industry has asked for this to happen at the end of this
financial year. Fun times ahead!

Funny how the PM is going on about more sustainable fuels/transport, yet
Fed GovCo won't allow that little electric car into Australia. Read one
of the few stories in which TT isn't labeling all car enthusiasts as
hoons here:
<http://seven.com.au/todaytonight/story/?id=25009>

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[Ext User(Cartman)]

Will they put another sticker on the vehicle that says "E10 use may
lower your fuel economy"?

I would say that this new sticker is mandatory, imposed by GovCo to help
out their Ethanol producing mates.
Sarch wrote:
> Unfortunately the article's light on details.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/car-giants-back-ethanolblended-petrol/2005/10/19/1129401279581.html
> Car giants back ethanol-blended petrol
> October 19, 2005 - 6:22AM
>
> The car industry has thrown its weight behind ethanol-blended petrol.
>
> Carmakers will tell drivers from next year that petrol blended with 10
> per cent ethanol, known as E10, is safe for vehicles and will not affect
> warranties.
>
> The message will be placed on every petrol-cap flap from January, it was
> reported today.
>
> The backflip follows a series of meetings between cabinet ministers and
> the chief executives of Ford, Holden, Toyota and Mitsubishi.
>
> Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane said he would urge international
> carmakers to consider using E10 labelling for cars imported into
> Australia.
>
> - AAP
>
> Sarch

[Ext User(crazy ron bakir)]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:37:51 +1000, Sarch
<sarch_tempnotreal@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> The car industry has thrown its weight behind ethanol-blended petrol.
>
> Carmakers will tell drivers from next year that petrol blended with 10
> per cent ethanol, known as E10, is safe for vehicles and will not affect
> warranties.
>

a little birdie told me one of the local car makers is having problems
with a recent model using E10.

so don't believe everythng you read. unless i wrote it of course :P

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[Ext User(John_H)]

Sarch wrote:
>
> The car industry has thrown its weight behind ethanol-blended petrol.
>
> Carmakers will tell drivers from next year that petrol blended with 10
> per cent ethanol, known as E10, is safe for vehicles and will not affect
> warranties.

Compliance with a Govco directive to accept ethanol, or else, is
hardly tantamount to the industry throwing its weight behind the idea.

It only means they'll patch up your car under warranty if the ethanol
happens to stuff it!

--
John H

[Ext User(DRP535)]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:37:51 +1000, Sarch <sarch_tempnotreal@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Unfortunately the article's light on details.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/car-giants-back-ethanolblended-petrol/2005/10/19/1129401279581.html
> Car giants back ethanol-blended petrol
> October 19, 2005 - 6:22AM
>
> The car industry has thrown its weight behind ethanol-blended petrol.
>
> Carmakers will tell drivers from next year that petrol blended with 10
> per cent ethanol, known as E10, is safe for vehicles and will not affect
> warranties.
>
> The message will be placed on every petrol-cap flap from January, it was
> reported today.
>
> The backflip follows a series of meetings between cabinet ministers and
> the chief executives of Ford, Holden, Toyota and Mitsubishi.
>
> Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane said he would urge international
> carmakers to consider using E10 labelling for cars imported into
> Australia.

Great! My owners manual says my car can cope with up to E3 so E10 is gonna
force me to consult my mechanic.

[Ext User(?andypandy)]

Wxcept for Nissan. they have stated not to use E10 in any of their cars.
Pulled it of the web. Wonder what they will do if they back flip now?

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"Sarch" <sarch_tempnotreal@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately the article's light on details.
>
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/car-giants-back-ethanolblended-petrol/2005/10/19/1129401279581.html
> Car giants back ethanol-blended petrol
> October 19, 2005 - 6:22AM
>
> The car industry has thrown its weight behind ethanol-blended petrol.
>
> Carmakers will tell drivers from next year that petrol blended with 10
> per cent ethanol, known as E10, is safe for vehicles and will not affect
> warranties.
>
> The message will be placed on every petrol-cap flap from January, it was
> reported today.
>
> The backflip follows a series of meetings between cabinet ministers and
> the chief executives of Ford, Holden, Toyota and Mitsubishi.
>
> Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane said he would urge international
> carmakers to consider using E10 labelling for cars imported into
> Australia.
>
> - AAP
>
> Sarch
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[Ext User(crazy ron bakir)]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:46:33 +1000, "?andypandy"
<billlyvsben@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Wxcept for Nissan. they have stated not to use E10 in any of their cars.
>Pulled it of the web. Wonder what they will do if they back flip now?
>
it's only the aussie makers who have 'thrown their weight' this way,
not importers. in case you hadn't noticed, nissan packed up and left
some time ago :)

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i'm fairly confident al qaeda don't write emails with their name
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:36:25 +0800, DRP535
<drp535.nospam@softhome.net> wrote:

>
>Great! My owners manual says my car can cope with up to E3 so E10 is gonna
>force me to consult my mechanic.

i looked in my glove box and found something about East17 so E10
should be ok!

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[Ext User(Cartman)]

The BF Falcon?
The Magna has been able to run E10 since the TN according to research
done a while back (I posted a link ages ago). I couldnt see why the 380
couldnt :p

crazy ron bakir wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:37:51 +1000, Sarch
> <sarch_tempnotreal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> The car industry has thrown its weight behind ethanol-blended petrol.
>>
>> Carmakers will tell drivers from next year that petrol blended with 10
>> per cent ethanol, known as E10, is safe for vehicles and will not affect
>> warranties.
>>
>
>
> a little birdie told me one of the local car makers is having problems
> with a recent model using E10.
>
> so don't believe everythng you read. unless i wrote it of course :P
>
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>
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> gold coast, qld.