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Ext User(Graeme Dods)
28-10-2005, 12:53 PM
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:26:07 +1000, Toby Ponsenby wrote:

> We don't have any real cities in aus.

What do you class as a "real" city?

Ext User(atec)
28-10-2005, 01:33 PM
Tamyka Bell wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>Mind you, I'd still be tempted to suggest that cycling to work and leaving
>>>>>>>>>the 4WD at home until the weekend would be a much better bet. Again, I
>>>>>>>>>have a list of very good reasons to do so for anyone who's at all
>>>>>>>>>interested. Living 20-30km from work is no excuse either...that's how far
>>>>>>>>>most of us commute :)
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>>>>>>>>You try riding with tools to different job sites across the city everyday?
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>>>>>>>I was talking to some mates about that one, with respect to jobs where
>>>>>>>employees start in a central location each day (have to check in) and
>>>>>>>then head out to different places; rather than those who travel to jobs
>>>>>>>directly from home, and particularly people who are in the CBD. It would
>>>>>>>make so much more sense if the company provided the vehicles and people
>>>>>>>caught public transport to the CBD. It would save the company heaps of
>>>>>>>money and mean that employees didn't have to get up so damn early to
>>>>>>>beat the traffic and could sleep on their way to work. (This is a bit
>>>>>>>Brisbane specific, where we have separate road for buses. Woohoo!)
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>>>>>>>Tam
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>>>>>>Lots of Brisbanites travel east west , there is no public transport in
>>>>>>that direction ,
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>>>>>I travel east-west by public transport. It's easy. Unless you meant way
>>>>>out west... a few hours...
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>>>>>Tam
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>>>>Try Browns Plains to Richlands at 6 am..not going to happen.
>>>>or in my case with 500 kg or tools and another 300kg or materials ..
>>>>thats going to be hard on a bus.
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>>>Right. So you ignored everything else I wrote. Cool.
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>>Nah , just telling you Brisbane is one of the worst cities for public
>>transport in the western world I have ever seen , but if you are an
>>office nonworker then you will be fine .
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>
>Yeah, and your taxes pay for me to do this.
>Ain't life grand?
>
>T
>
>
what are taxes ?

Ext User(Theo Bekkers)
28-10-2005, 01:53 PM
atec wrote:

> what are taxes ?

It's that ATO mob. I send them $40K each month on our BAS so you don't have
to.

Theo

Ext User(Brash)
28-10-2005, 04:23 PM
Pushbikes aren't allowed in the Burnley Tunnel. Taking them in there was an
illegal act. But the politicians were too pissant to let the cops do their
jobs and arrest the wankers.

--
"It's ballistics, not rocket-science."

Me.
"Resound" <sacredchao@.yourhat.bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
>> PS, those pushbike-riding wankers who have their little (illegal)
>> protests
>> and block roads around Melbourne in peak hour do you a disservice.
>>
>
> Actually they're not illegal (which is rather the point) but I agree with
> you.
>

Ext User(Brash)
28-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Yeah, well, I used to be a shooter, but don't get me started on
that................

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Me.

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Brash" <trooper1962@hotmail.SPAM> wrote in message
> news:43608901$0$26940$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
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>> I still ride my motorbike when I'm not driving my 4WD or one of work's
>> trucks. I ride a pushbike to and from work, without any problems. And I
>> don't think I'm morally superior because of my choice of conveyance.
>
> Jesus...
>
> You cover all demographics and have nothing to complain about. You
> obviously slipped through the government process of turning everyone into
> whinging wimps during the '80's :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>

Ext User(D Walford)
28-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Kev wrote:
> No ya goose
> 8x4, twin steer bogey drive
>
> those bloody rought riding things usually in ACCO form
>

Ah, now I'm with you:-)
I haven't had the misfortune to drive one of those, the 12 tonner Hino
with a lazy axle that I drove for about 6mths was bad enough.



Daryl

Ext User(D Walford)
28-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Aeek wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:45:32 +1000, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you mean 18 wheeler, but you know I drive one of those?
>
>
> Daryl
>
> My attitude to you has just improved imeasurably.
> You HAVE to know that you are driving a very large blunt object.
>
> Something that bicycles and heavies have in common:
> We're all under the same road rules, right?
> Hah, same rule book perhaps but different exceptions apply.
> And we are both sharing the roads with cars who think they know better.
> (Wrong about cyclists, ignorant about heavies.)
>
> I never had to learn about the heavy differences to get my car licence.
> It was only when I couldn't find what I was supposed to be doing, as a cyclist,
> in the car orientated handbooks so I looked at the actual legislation.
> So heavies don't have to turn right from the right. Makes sense, sometimes you can't.
> Why aren't car drivers expected to know this? Unsafe!.

Car drivers certainly need to be taught that they aren't the only
vehicles on the road.



Daryl

Ext User(Tamyka Bell)
28-10-2005, 04:43 PM
D Walford wrote:
>
> Aeek wrote:
> > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:45:32 +1000, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Do you mean 18 wheeler, but you know I drive one of those?
> >
> >
> > Daryl
> >
> > My attitude to you has just improved imeasurably.
> > You HAVE to know that you are driving a very large blunt object.
> >
> > Something that bicycles and heavies have in common:
> > We're all under the same road rules, right?
> > Hah, same rule book perhaps but different exceptions apply.
> > And we are both sharing the roads with cars who think they know better.
> > (Wrong about cyclists, ignorant about heavies.)
> >
> > I never had to learn about the heavy differences to get my car licence.
> > It was only when I couldn't find what I was supposed to be doing, as a cyclist,
> > in the car orientated handbooks so I looked at the actual legislation.
> > So heavies don't have to turn right from the right. Makes sense, sometimes you can't.
> > Why aren't car drivers expected to know this? Unsafe!.
>
> Car drivers certainly need to be taught that they aren't the only
> vehicles on the road.
>
> Daryl

See, I was taught that (about heavies)... My instructor was very
thorough and spoke a lot about other road users. Why are driving schools
not teaching the same things? Tam

Ext User(Dan---)
28-10-2005, 04:43 PM
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:26:54 +1000, D Walford wrote:


> Ah, now I'm with you:-)
> I haven't had the misfortune to drive one of those, the 12 tonner Hino
> with a lazy axle that I drove for about 6mths was bad enough.

I have not driven an ACCO for a long time but I remember driving an old
Acco prime mover which had a IH big block Petrol V8 but I almost always
cried each time I saw a hill coming up! It sounded great but it was bloody
gutless and Jesus did it drink!.

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´╗┐Regards
Dan

Ext User(D Walford)
28-10-2005, 04:43 PM
Birdman wrote:
> I only ever drove 2 DAFs, didnt like em, but then I was coming out of
> a W model Kenworth, and used to the bonnet, and going cabover and wide
> cab was different..
>
> Your choice for the DAF?


The boss pays so he gets to choose:-)
His fleet is 95% Kenworth, my DAF is the only non Kenworth prime mover
in the fleet.
I would choose the DAF even if I was paying, its very comfortable and
very well equipped and its perfectly suited to the job.
I think the main reason the boss bought another DAF is its amazing fuel
economy, some of the Kenworths use more fuel per day than I do in a week.



Daryl

Ext User(D Walford)
28-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Plodder wrote:
> "D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:43607690$0$13317$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
> ...
>
>>Resound wrote:
>>
>>>"D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>>>
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> news:43605e57$0$13321$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
> ...
>
>
> <SNIP Resound's stuff>
>
>>
>>So smaller brakes and tyres would be better?
>
>
> That's a plainly dumb comment.
>
>
>>NRMA did some stopping distance testing and whilst in some circumstances
>>the Landcruiser took longer to stop there isn't much in it, at slower
>>speeds it matched the Commodore.
>>http://www.nrma.com.au/pub/nrma/motor/car-research/stop_distance.shtml
>>You also ignored what I said about reaction times but thats no surprise.
>>
>>
>>
>>Daryl
>
>
> "...in some circumstances the Landcruiser took longer to stop" translates
> as: "...in some circumstances the Landcruiser hit things that the Commodore
> stopped before hitting."
>

Maybe yes maybe no, in a real life situation the Landcruiser driver
would have seen the need to brake a lot earlier than the Commodore
driver negating the small extra stopping distance.



Daryl

Ext User(D Walford)
28-10-2005, 05:03 PM
dave wrote:

> On an advanced course at calder. I was the only one who evaded the
> simulated accident. Brake and swerve on damp track.
>
> In a 1967 Austin Healey sprite. One of about 4 cars on the day without
> ABS. (which was rather rare then in general)
>
Thats odd the 3A was the last Sprite sold in Australia, mine was one of
the last Sprites and it was a 1965.
Was it a private import Mk4?
>>
>>> As confirmed by the multitude of bumps I've had to get fixed on
>>> the rear of my Rav4 and the rear of the wife's Prado simply
>>> because the idiots driving "safe" sedans behind us cannot break
>>> in as short a distance.
>>>
>>> Yes, I AM fully aware that ABS does not reduce absolute
>>> braking distance. That's not what it does.
>>>
>>> You really don't have a clue of reality, do you?
>>> I suggest you stay on the physics department "research"
>>> and leave real life to people who actually have to live it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daft sod...
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
> Would have loved to have seen a big 4wd try that. Funnily no one had
> one. Anyone want to have a go? I,ll run the video ( from a long way away)


My stock Hilux handles better than a stock Sprite, those things handle
aweful in stock form although you would be hard pressed to find a stock
one these days.



Daryl

Ext User(D Walford)
28-10-2005, 05:03 PM
Theo Bekkers wrote:
> atec wrote:
>
>
>>what are taxes ?
>
>
> It's that ATO mob. I send them $40K each month on our BAS so you don't have
> to.

Can you do me a favour and increase it by another 5k then I won't have
to pay either:-)



Daryl

Ext User(Noddy)
28-10-2005, 05:13 PM
"atec" <atec77@###hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> what are taxes ?

Jesus! 5k just to post 3 useless words?

Learn to snip you lazy idiot....

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Noddy.

Ext User(Birdman)
28-10-2005, 05:53 PM
Cant wait until they hold up traffic one night, and some stoned trucky
on a tight schedule takes them all out!


>Pushbikes aren't allowed in the Burnley Tunnel. Taking them in there was an
>illegal act. But the politicians were too pissant to let the cops do their
>jobs and arrest the wankers.

Ext User(Birdman)
28-10-2005, 05:53 PM
>I think the main reason the boss bought another DAF is its amazing fuel
>economy, some of the Kenworths use more fuel per day than I do in a week.

Depends on driver, what he is towing, and which donk you go for..
Loved my K100E :)

Ext User(dave)
28-10-2005, 06:13 PM
D Walford wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
>> On an advanced course at calder. I was the only one who evaded the
>> simulated accident. Brake and swerve on damp track.
>>
>> In a 1967 Austin Healey sprite. One of about 4 cars on the day
>> without ABS. (which was rather rare then in general)
>>
> Thats odd the 3A was the last Sprite sold in Australia, mine was one of
> the last Sprites and it was a 1965.
> Was it a private import Mk4?

No its a 3A. As far as I know not a private import. JSE 053 as far as
I know the original reg.
>
>>>
>>>> As confirmed by the multitude of bumps I've had to get fixed on
>>>> the rear of my Rav4 and the rear of the wife's Prado simply
>>>> because the idiots driving "safe" sedans behind us cannot break
>>>> in as short a distance.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I AM fully aware that ABS does not reduce absolute
>>>> braking distance. That's not what it does.
>>>>
>>>> You really don't have a clue of reality, do you?
>>>> I suggest you stay on the physics department "research"
>>>> and leave real life to people who actually have to live it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daft sod...
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>> Would have loved to have seen a big 4wd try that. Funnily no one had
>> one. Anyone want to have a go? I,ll run the video ( from a long way
>> away)
>
>
>
> My stock Hilux handles better than a stock Sprite, those things handle
> aweful in stock form although you would be hard pressed to find a stock
> one these days.


Stock.. there is stock?
Anytime you wanna line up a motokhana course?

Dave

Ext User(Rainbow Warrior)
28-10-2005, 06:23 PM
"Plodder" <CORNED BEEF@NOSPAM> wrote in message
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> "Rainbow Warrior" <pizza@sbs.com.fr> wrote in message
> news:F8D7f.955$Hj2.32@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "Plodder" <CORNED BEEF@NOSPAM> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > <wilhelm_joseph_wolfendehn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1130242750.987089.98340@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> some dole bludging wannabe calling itself faggy arse pissed and
>> >> moaned,
>> >> farted, shit its pants and blurted out:
>> >> > **** all of any use to Australian road users.
>> >>
>> >> Try again, faggoty arse, after you stop your juvenile dummy spit and
>> >> try using coherent English.
>> >>
>> >> There's a shrink term for you, you little mildewed weasel, something
>> >> like "penis envy." You don't have what others have so you dream up all
>> >> the excuses under the sun why they should not have what they do have.
>> >> It won't work, ****face. Your pissy little left wing wanking will not
>> >> change anything. Those of us who own and use four wheel drives will
>> >> continue to do s, for work and/or for recreation, in spite of the
>> >> impotent ravings of fools like you and that ****wit scruby. Just in
>> >> case you're wondering, little skate board dole bludger, I own two four
>> >> wheel drives, and have five more on lease, all five are somewhere up
>> >> in
>> >> the Gulf of Carpentaria carrying full loads of tourists. And here's
>> >> the
>> >> kicker, little boy, all five are earning me a shitload of cash.
>> >
>> > Hey! Good spray!
>> > I wonder about it though. I haven't seen anyone griping about 4WDs used
>> > for
>> > their intended purpose. What I do see, though, is 4WD owners getting
>> > all
>> > defensive when someone questions their toys. Seems to support what the
>> > articles say...
>> >
>> > Frank
>>
>> Funny enough car owners also get defensive when their toys are
>> questioned.
>> Seems to support all the hoon articles by your logic.
>
> Agreed, but this thread isn't about the hoons, it's about 4WDs not being
> used for their purpose. As I've stated in other threads, I've owned 4WDs
> when I've needed them. Now I live in the burbs I can't for the life of me
> see why I need a 2 1/2 tonne 'Cruiser to get my shopping home. No argument
> with 4WDers using their vehicles off-road, even just occasionally.
> Defensiveness gets up my nose in general. That includes those who get
> defensive about their cars, bikes, 4WDs or their choice of dog - I don't
> care - it's the defensive wall that bugs me.

As opposed to those that don't give a sh%t or encourage you to criticise
their car, car, bike, 4wd, dog or GF?

> WRT hoons: Yep, I do think their actions (hooning) shows a lack of
> self-respect, reflected in the lack of respect they show other people in
> the
> community. Lack of self-respect seems to go hand-in-hand with a defensive
> attitude so I reckon you're right. I used to enjoy the odd
> burnout/donut/hooning session myself but we did it on clear, quiet country
> roads, well away fom any dwellings, where we didn't bother anyone else.
> The
> dickweeds who show me no respect by hooning where they risk others, not
> just
> themselves, get up my nose.
>
>> You expect us to join in on the 4WD bashing sessions, if we didn't reply
> you
>> would all be in a fairy land where you believed no one used them offroad,
>> because we can fool you all with a quick wash at carlovers.
>
> Bollox. Never found a car wash that could get my fourbys as pristine as
> the
> ones I'm referring to unless I spend more time cleaning than 4WDing. I
> reckon anyone who does put in the effort to get their toy so pristinely
> clean has bigger issues than we can cover here! That includes bikes, by
> the
> way :-)
>
> Frank

Ext User(John McKenzie)
28-10-2005, 06:43 PM
Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> totalled, and I wouldn't have been so badly smacked up :)
>
> You wouldn't have been there yet, either.

gold


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Ext User(John McKenzie)
28-10-2005, 06:53 PM
Noddy wrote:
>

> No, but you can order a foot clutch and tank shifter if you really want one.

Are they still official factory options? I though they were dropped some
time back?

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