Impossible Things Done In A TV Show: Giving a Blackberry increasedrange

[Ext User(John)]

On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October

Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
to other blackberries independent of a network?

That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
metre range or something....

But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
claims 3000 metres range boost..

I thought they were also a GSM phone......

[Ext User(John Mares)]

"John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:43636785.A9EC7143@internode.on.net...
> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>
> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> metre range or something....
>
> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>
> I thought they were also a GSM phone......

I understand blackberries newer than mine now have bluetooth, maybe they are
using that?

Or maybe they are just making it up?

JM

[Ext User(--- ylferiF ---)]

"John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:43636785.A9EC7143@internode.on.net...
> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>
> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> metre range or something....
>
> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>
> I thought they were also a GSM phone......

I thought they were a fruit.

[Ext User(David Springthorpe)]

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:43:57 +0930, John <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net>
wrote :

>Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
>to other blackberries independent of a network?

A big loud raspberry to that theory.....

[Ext User(Rhye)]

TV dosen't have to make sense. It's not REAL...
"John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:43636785.A9EC7143@internode.on.net...
> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>
> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> metre range or something....
>
> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>
> I thought they were also a GSM phone......

[Ext User(Tom N)]

John wrote:

> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>
> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> metre range or something....
>
> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>
> I thought they were also a GSM phone......

They were "toothing".
Do a google on: 'toothing "CSI Miami"'

Seems reasonable to me that you could extend the bluetooth range with an
antenna.

e.g. http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000523040915/


CSI also often uses GPS in mobile phones to find out where people are
without them knowing. I thought this was a crock but apparently some
phones in the US have this "feature" (whether this allows cops to locate
them without their knowledge or permission is another question).

[Ext User(Kwyjibo)]

Tom N wrote:

> CSI also often uses GPS in mobile phones to find out where people are
> without them knowing. I thought this was a crock but apparently some
> phones in the US have this "feature" (whether this allows cops to
> locate them without their knowledge or permission is another
> question).

It's quite simple to do in Australia (and everywhere else with mobile
coverage) without the use of GPS.
Just figure out which bases your phone is in contact with and traingulate
the position.

Try sending an SMS message to 171 5678 (171 LOST) from a Telstra mobile
(won't work from other carrirs) for an example of the technology in use.

--
Kwyj

[Ext User(Dyna Soar)]

Kwyjibo wrote:
> Tom N wrote:

>> CSI also often uses GPS in mobile phones to find out where people are
>> without them knowing. I thought this was a crock but apparently some
>> phones in the US have this "feature" (whether this allows cops to
>> locate them without their knowledge or permission is another
>> question).

> It's quite simple to do in Australia (and everywhere else with mobile
> coverage) without the use of GPS.
> Just figure out which bases your phone is in contact with and
> traingulate the position.

> Try sending an SMS message to 171 5678 (171 LOST) from a Telstra
> mobile (won't work from other carrirs) for an example of the
> technology in use.

Sent message to 1715678 from my Telstra mobile..
Reply ... "Access to this number is not available as this is a prototype
for trial purposes only. For emergency, life-threatening matters, please
call 000"

--
Dyna

All Rights Reserved. All Wrongs Avenged.

[Ext User(Kwyjibo)]

Dyna Soar wrote:
> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> Tom N wrote:
>
>>> CSI also often uses GPS in mobile phones to find out where people
>>> are without them knowing. I thought this was a crock but
>>> apparently some phones in the US have this "feature" (whether this
>>> allows cops to locate them without their knowledge or permission is
>>> another question).
>
>> It's quite simple to do in Australia (and everywhere else with mobile
>> coverage) without the use of GPS.
>> Just figure out which bases your phone is in contact with and
>> traingulate the position.
>
>> Try sending an SMS message to 171 5678 (171 LOST) from a Telstra
>> mobile (won't work from other carrirs) for an example of the
>> technology in use.
>
> Sent message to 1715678 from my Telstra mobile..
> Reply ... "Access to this number is not available as this is a
> prototype for trial purposes only. For emergency, life-threatening
> matters, please call 000"

Ah. They must have shut it down.
It was a trial being run by Telstra research. You could send it a message
and it would return your current position in degrees, minutes and seconds.
Appeared pretty accurate too. Every time I tried it it was accurate to about
50m, which isn't too bad considering it's using a system that was never
designed for that purpose.
--
Kwyj

[Ext User(John)]

Tom N wrote:

> John wrote:
>
> > On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
> >
> > Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> > to other blackberries independent of a network?
> >
> > That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> > when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> > metre range or something....
> >
> > But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> > tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> > claims 3000 metres range boost..
> >
> > I thought they were also a GSM phone......
>
> They were "toothing".
> Do a google on: 'toothing "CSI Miami"'



Don't need to I watched the show but out of curiosity I did
what you suggested and looked that up........



> Seems reasonable to me that you could extend the bluetooth range with an
> antenna.
>
> e.g. http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000523040915/



Ah a link I like looking up URLs




> CSI also often uses GPS in mobile phones to find out where people are
> without them knowing. I thought this was a crock but apparently some
> phones in the US have this "feature" (whether this allows cops to locate
> them without their knowledge or permission is another question).



This I am aware of......
However I'd rather rely on a portable GPS device

[Ext User(Jeremy Quirke)]

"John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:43636785.A9EC7143@internode.on.net...
> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>
> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> metre range or something....
>
> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>
> I thought they were also a GSM phone......

Yes I saw that episode a while back when it first aired and remember having
a chuckle.

The forensics in CSI and spinoffs are not accurate - you just have to watch
any scene with a security camera with an impossibly high resolution and
perfect lens to allow zooming in on a suspect to see a reflection in their
eye...

[Ext User(DJ!)]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:33:14 +1100, "Kwyjibo"
<kwyjibo@RemoveThis.ozdebate.com> wrote:

>Ah. They must have shut it down.
>It was a trial being run by Telstra research. You could send it a message
>and it would return your current position in degrees, minutes and seconds.
>Appeared pretty accurate too. Every time I tried it it was accurate to about
>50m, which isn't too bad considering it's using a system that was never
>designed for that purpose.

I remember it :)

See:
http://phlog.net/entry/177917
http://phlog.net/entry/177918


DJ! - OzDJ
OzDJ@clubduh.com
http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ


Quote: Bateau <Gamera@work.stomping.aza> wrote in iinet.general
> I didn't say I didn't understand it.
> I just don't get it.

[Ext User(Gazzus_Blokius)]

"David Springthorpe" <david.springthorpe@idx.com.au> wrote in message
news:5h68m1pl5h7get285no7nuhdhh7ur3qc11@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:43:57 +0930, John
> <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net>
> wrote :
>
> >Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> >to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> A big loud raspberry to that theory.....

you better blow harder then :-)

http://www.blackberry.com/products/bluetooth/index.shtml

HTH
Garry

[Ext User(Simon Templar)]

John wrote:
> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>
> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> metre range or something....
>
> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>
> I thought they were also a GSM phone......

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[Ext User(Simon Templar)]

johnvonlaws@hotmail.com wrote:
> Put the firearm to your temple...."homo"!

You are getting so boring, maybe you should consider doing that yourself!



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[Ext User(John)]

Jeremy Quirke wrote:

> "John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:43636785.A9EC7143@internode.on.net...
> > On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
> >
> > Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> > to other blackberries independent of a network?
> >
> > That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> > when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> > metre range or something....
> >
> > But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> > tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> > claims 3000 metres range boost..
> >
> > I thought they were also a GSM phone......
>
> Yes I saw that episode a while back when it first aired and remember having
> a chuckle.
>
> The forensics in CSI and spinoffs are not accurate - you just have to watch
> any scene with a security camera with an impossibly high resolution and
> perfect lens to allow zooming in on a suspect to see a reflection in their
> eye...



Oh don't remind me that was the episode where a guy pushed a lady
off the footpath into a bus..... They caught him via reflection in a
bystander's eye of all things.......

But if technology is so damn good howcome security cameras always
have fuzzy resolution at best even on crimestoppers when they show
footage from a security camera?

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

John <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote
> Jeremy Quirke wrote
>> John <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote

>>> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>>>
>>> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
>>> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>>>
>>> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
>>> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
>>> metre range or something....
>>>
>>> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
>>> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
>>> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>>>
>>> I thought they were also a GSM phone......
>>
>> Yes I saw that episode a while back when it first aired and remember
>> having a chuckle.
>>
>> The forensics in CSI and spinoffs are not accurate - you just have
>> to watch any scene with a security camera with an impossibly high
>> resolution and perfect lens to allow zooming in on a suspect to see
>> a reflection in their eye...
>
>
>
> Oh don't remind me that was the episode where a guy pushed a lady
> off the footpath into a bus..... They caught him via reflection in a
> bystander's eye of all things.......
>
> But if technology is so damn good howcome security cameras always
> have fuzzy resolution at best even on crimestoppers when they show
> footage from a security camera?

Thats so the crims arent careful about where the cameras are, stupid.

[Ext User(Craig Welch)]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:18:18 +1100, "Kwyjibo"
<kwyjibo@RemoveThis.ozdebate.com> wrote:

>Try sending an SMS message to 171 5678 (171 LOST) from a Telstra mobile
>(won't work from other carrirs) for an example of the technology in use.

Just did that, got a message back 'unable to locate your PC'.

--
Craig

[Ext User(two bob)]

> On CSI Miami Wednesday 26th October
>
> Can a Blackberry send messages over a short distance
> to other blackberries independent of a network?
>
> That was the impression I got from this stupid TV show
> when the tech guy said something about it having a 30
> metre range or something....
>
> But later in the show they took one of these apart and the
> tech guy puts this big antenna onto the back of the unit and
> claims 3000 metres range boost..
>
> I thought they were also a GSM phone......

It's a TV show!