Optus Have Sucked Me Into Spending Above My Cap. Help Appreciated.

[Ext User(Horace_ Wachope_)]

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:26:50 +1000, Craig Welch wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:20:38 +1030, Horace_ Wachope_
> <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>And I doubt the song is still protected by copyright. It's rather old, you
>>see.
>
> As are you ... but I gather you still work?

I have never been protected by copyright, Craig.

That's how the imposters get away with impostering me.

[Ext User(Craig Welch)]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:14:09 +1030, Horace_ Wachope_
<horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>And I doubt the song is still protected by copyright. It's rather old, you
>>>see.
>>
>> As are you ... but I gather you still work?
>
>I have never been protected by copyright, Craig.

Are you perhaps just a registered mark?

>That's how the imposters get away with impostering me.

Time for them to be sublimated, I say.

--
Craig

[Ext User(budgie)]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:28:37 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:

>budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
>
>>>>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
>>>>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
>
>>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>
>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>
>>> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to that.
>
>> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
>> to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
>> vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.
>
>Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
>can do with numbers within their operation.

It severely limits their ability to con people by saying a change from pre- to
post-paid or vice versa means a number change, as a means of making them stay
put on a less favourable plan.

>>> Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.

Exactly.

>> That's why they don't get to play those silly games any more.
>
>That only works for customers who know they can do that
>and who are prepare to wear the cost of going that route.

Most do. And the cost can be minimal or zero.

>>>>> If I go to Vodafone prepaid can I keep my current Optus mobile> number?
>
>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>>> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote

>>>>>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
>>>>>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.

>>>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>>>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?

>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.

>>>> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to that.

>>> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
>>> to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
>>> vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.

>> Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
>> can do with numbers within their operation.

> It severely limits their ability to con people by saying a change
> from pre- to post-paid or vice versa means a number change,
> as a means of making them stay put on a less favourable plan.

Bullshit it does when most dont realise that they
can port out and port back and keep the number.

>>>> Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.

> Exactly.

Pity that most dont think of doing that.

>>> That's why they don't get to play those silly games any more.

>> That only works for customers who know they can do that
>> and who are prepare to wear the cost of going that route.

> Most do.

Bullshit.

> And the cost can be minimal or zero.

There's fuck all who know how to do it for minimal
or zero cost, tho its certainly possible if you know.

>>>>>> If I go to Vodafone prepaid can I keep my current Optus mobile
>>>>>> number?

>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.

[Ext User(Max Power)]

"Craig Welch" <craig@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
news:m4njm1hm9nlc7gvqb5s0d88vt53t66kgj6@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:14:09 +1030, Horace_ Wachope_
> <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>And I doubt the song is still protected by copyright. It's rather old,
>>>>you
>>>>see.
>>>
>>> As are you ... but I gather you still work?
>>
>>I have never been protected by copyright, Craig.
>
> Are you perhaps just a registered mark?
>
>>That's how the imposters get away with impostering me.
>
> Time for them to be sublimated, I say.

I thought I patched in aus.music

[Ext User(budgie)]

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 06:02:34 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:

>budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>>>> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
>
>>>>>>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
>>>>>>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
>
>>>>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>>>>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>
>>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>
>>>>> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to that.
>
>>>> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
>>>> to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
>>>> vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.
>
>>> Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
>>> can do with numbers within their operation.
>
>> It severely limits their ability to con people by saying a change
>> from pre- to post-paid or vice versa means a number change,
>> as a means of making them stay put on a less favourable plan.
>
>Bullshit it does when most dont realise that they
>can port out and port back and keep the number.
>
>>>>> Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.
>
>> Exactly.
>
>Pity that most dont think of doing that.

Bullshit. You need to get out more.

>>>> That's why they don't get to play those silly games any more.
>
>>> That only works for customers who know they can do that
>>> and who are prepare to wear the cost of going that route.
>
>> Most do.
>
>Bullshit.

Bullshit. You need to get out more.

>> And the cost can be minimal or zero.
>
>There's fuck all who know how to do it for minimal
>or zero cost, tho its certainly possible if you know.

Bullshit. You need to get out more.

>>>>>>> If I go to Vodafone prepaid can I keep my current Optus mobile
>>>>>>> number?
>
>>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>>>>> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote

>>>>>>>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
>>>>>>>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.

>>>>>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>>>>>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?

>>>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.

>>>>>> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant
>>>>>> to that.

>>>>> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
>>>>> to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
>>>>> vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.

>>>> Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
>>>> can do with numbers within their operation.

>>> It severely limits their ability to con people by saying a change
>>> from pre- to post-paid or vice versa means a number change,
>>> as a means of making them stay put on a less favourable plan.

>> Bullshit it does when most dont realise that they
>> can port out and port back and keep the number.

>>>>>> Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.

>>> Exactly.

>> Pity that most dont think of doing that.

> Bullshit.

Fact.

> You need to get out more.

You need to let go of your dick and work on your lines.

>>>>> That's why they don't get to play those silly games any more.

>>>> That only works for customers who know they can do that
>>>> and who are prepare to wear the cost of going that route.

>>> Most do.

>> Bullshit.

> Bullshit.

Fact.

> You need to get out more.

You need to let go of your dick and work on your lines.

>>> And the cost can be minimal or zero.

>> There's fuck all who know how to do it for minimal
>> or zero cost, tho its certainly possible if you know.

> Bullshit.

Fact.

> You need to get out more.

You need to let go of your dick and work on your lines.

>>>>>>>> If I go to Vodafone prepaid can I keep my current Optus mobile
>>>>>>>> number?

>>>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.

[Ext User(Michael)]

<ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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> Hi folks.
>
> I have the Optus $49 Cap that includes $230 worth of calls. I receive
> a montly bill.
>
> I rang Optus to ask how to find out how much I have already spent on
> calls. They said that they DEFINATELY don't have that service (& told
> me it is called live billing). But today I saw that my friend has
> Optus' Prepaid Turbocharge plan & is able to call a number to find out
> how much credit she has.
>
> I'm really upset that Optus told me the wrong thing. Is the number to
> check the amount of credit for prepaid accounts only?

Yes

> Is it possible to put a limit on my monthly bill so that I can only
> spend a certain amount. I've spent above my cap on my last couple

No

[Ext User(Michael)]

"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:01:41 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> >budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
> >> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
> >
> >>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
> >>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
> >
> >>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
> >>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
> >
> >> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
> >
> >No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to that.
>
> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this to pressure
customers
> into not changing from pre to post or vice versa. Tel$tra (shops)
certainly
> did. After MNP, they can't.

Load of shite, Telstra has ALWAYS been the most flexible about things like
a) upgrading and keeping SAME number. (had it before anyone else)
b) changing from post to prepaid and vice versa

>
> >Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.
>
> That's why they don't get to play those silly games any more.
>
> >>> If I go to Vodafone prepaid can I keep my current Optus mobile number?
> >
> >> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
> >
>

[Ext User(Michael)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
> >>> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
>
> >>>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
> >>>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
>
> >>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
> >>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>
> >>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>
> >> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to that.
>
> > Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
> > to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
> > vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.
>
> Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
> can do with numbers within their operation.

Rod is correct, budgies comment was irrelevant

[Ext User(Michael)]

> >>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
> >>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
> >
> >>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
> >
> >>> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to
that.
> >
> >> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
> >> to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
> >> vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.
> >
> >Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
> >can do with numbers within their operation.
>
> It severely limits their ability to con people by saying a change from
pre- to
> post-paid or vice versa means a number change, as a means of making them
stay
> put on a less favourable plan.

How so?

>
> >>> Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.
>
> Exactly.

Whilst paying an ETC to end your postpaid contract . . .

[Ext User(budgie)]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:58:59 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>> >>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>> >
>> >>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>> >
>> >>> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to
>that.
>> >
>> >> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
>> >> to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
>> >> vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.
>> >
>> >Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
>> >can do with numbers within their operation.
>>
>> It severely limits their ability to con people by saying a change from
>pre- to
>> post-paid or vice versa means a number change, as a means of making them
>stay
>> put on a less favourable plan.
>
>How so?

You haven't been keeping up Mikey. Pity you only drop in on weekends nowadays.

>>
>> >>> Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.
>>
>> Exactly.
>
>Whilst paying an ETC to end your postpaid contract . . .
>
>

[Ext User(budgie)]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:57:40 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:hl3jm15p5pu5ohniu7skh133d2960q11b6@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:01:41 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> >budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>> >> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
>> >
>> >>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
>> >>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
>> >
>> >>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>> >>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>> >
>> >> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>> >
>> >No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to that.
>>
>> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this to pressure
>customers
>> into not changing from pre to post or vice versa. Tel$tra (shops)
>certainly
>> did. After MNP, they can't.
>
>Load of shite, Telstra has ALWAYS been the most flexible about things like
>a) upgrading and keeping SAME number. (had it before anyone else)
>b) changing from post to prepaid and vice versa

I wish you'd get out of the dunny circuit and see what has REALLY been going on
out there in T-shops, just for once. They have some guys who are obviously
rejects from the used car trade, and they tell porkies at an ubelievable rate to
try and manoeuvre the poor dumbfuck public into shelling out more loot.

But of course, YOU know everything that ever went on in every T-shop.

>> >Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.
>>
>> That's why they don't get to play those silly games any more.
>>
>> >>> If I go to Vodafone prepaid can I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>> >
>> >> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>> >
>>
>

[Ext User(Michael)]

"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:58:59 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
> >> >>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
> >> >
> >> >>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
> >> >
> >> >>> No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to
> >that.
> >> >
> >> >> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this
> >> >> to pressure customers into not changing from pre to post or
> >> >> vice versa. Tel$tra (shops) certainly did. After MNP, they can't.
> >> >
> >> >Wrong, MNP has nothing to do with what the telcos
> >> >can do with numbers within their operation.
> >>
> >> It severely limits their ability to con people by saying a change from
> >pre- to
> >> post-paid or vice versa means a number change, as a means of making
them
> >stay
> >> put on a less favourable plan.
> >
> >How so?
>
> You haven't been keeping up Mikey. Pity you only drop in on weekends
nowadays.

Sorry, been using the work laptop too long

> >> >>> Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.
> >>
> >> Exactly.
> >
> >Whilst paying an ETC to end your postpaid contract . . .
> >
> >
>

[Ext User(Michael)]

"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:57:40 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:hl3jm15p5pu5ohniu7skh133d2960q11b6@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:01:41 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
> >> >> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
> >> >
> >> >>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
> >> >>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
> >> >
> >> >>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
> >> >>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
> >> >
> >> >> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
> >> >
> >> >No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to
that.
> >>
> >> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this to pressure
> >customers
> >> into not changing from pre to post or vice versa. Tel$tra (shops)
> >certainly
> >> did. After MNP, they can't.
> >
> >Load of shite, Telstra has ALWAYS been the most flexible about things
like
> >a) upgrading and keeping SAME number. (had it before anyone else)
> >b) changing from post to prepaid and vice versa
>
> I wish you'd get out of the dunny circuit and see what has REALLY been
going on
> out there in T-shops, just for once. They have some guys who are
obviously
> rejects from the used car trade, and they tell porkies at an ubelievable
rate to
> try and manoeuvre the poor dumbfuck public into shelling out more loot.


Most of this is done over the phone nowadays, not in stores

I try and stay away from T Shops, just too busy they are

[Ext User(budgie)]

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:26:55 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:hl8sm154v38cs2ufm66m9kguf0hoqrfjp3@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:57:40 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> >news:hl3jm15p5pu5ohniu7skh133d2960q11b6@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:01:41 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>> >> >> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
>> >> >>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
>> >> >
>> >> >>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>> >> >>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>> >> >
>> >> >No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to
>that.
>> >>
>> >> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this to pressure
>> >customers
>> >> into not changing from pre to post or vice versa. Tel$tra (shops)
>> >certainly
>> >> did. After MNP, they can't.
>> >
>> >Load of shite, Telstra has ALWAYS been the most flexible about things
>like
>> >a) upgrading and keeping SAME number. (had it before anyone else)
>> >b) changing from post to prepaid and vice versa
>>
>> I wish you'd get out of the dunny circuit and see what has REALLY been
>going on
>> out there in T-shops, just for once. They have some guys who are
>obviously
>> rejects from the used car trade, and they tell porkies at an ubelievable
>rate to
>> try and manoeuvre the poor dumbfuck public into shelling out more loot.
>
>
>Most of this is done over the phone nowadays, not in stores

The droids on the phone aren't all that clever or clued up.

>I try and stay away from T Shops, just too busy they are

mind you, they're no better clued than the phone droids either.

[Ext User(Zappy)]

"Max Power" <frootloop@jdl.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Max Power" <frootloop@jdl.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Horace_ Wachope_" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mdkdrfoyg0hm$.gh8c3d1nbuv$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:19:47 GMT, Max Power wrote:
>>>
>>>> "budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:hl3jm15p5pu5ohniu7skh133d2960q11b6@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:01:41 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>budgie <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>>>>> ghostgunna@mail.tpg.com.au wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanx 4 the replys guys. I think I will jump 2 Vodafone.
>>>>>>>> If I'm not happy I can always jump back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I go from optus postpaid to prepaid can
>>>>>>>> I keep my current Optus mobile number?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No it isnt, that's internal to the telco and MNP is irrelevant to
>>>>>>that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before MNP was mandated, telcos could play games like this to pressure
>>>>> customers
>>>>> into not changing from pre to post or vice versa. Tel$tra (shops)
>>>>> certainly
>>>>> did. After MNP, they can't.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Tho you can certainly switch away from Optarse and then back again.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why they don't get to play those silly games any more.
>>>>
>>>> Silly Games? JDL???
>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I go to Vodafone prepaid can I keep my current Optus mobile
>>>>>>>> number?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, that's what MNP is all about.
>>>>
>>>> That reminds me of a children's dancing song.
>>>>
>>>> I think it was called Ring Around the Rosie.
>>>
>>> Wasn't it called "Ring-a ring-a rosie"?
>>>
>>> And that was hardly a "children's" song.
>>
>> I wonder if I can download it, it's quite nice.
>
> <I've patched in aus.music>

Aren't they called Singtel now?


>
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