Re: "I'm dreaming of a White Phosphorous Christmas!" -

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Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:

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>>
>> Shop early, get these great TexIraq Christmas presents;
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>>
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>
Pits wrote:

> Crap
>

It's ALL-American crap, the sort of thing being shoved
down Iraq's throats, unasked for, by moral maggots such
as your girlfriend, Bash, the sort of gutless maggot
who cheers when unarmed wounded are executed, and who LIES
for the USSA by repeating the claim that W.P. is ONLY
used for a smokescreen or to mark battlefields. Even the
Americans themselves have abandoned that SMOKESCREEN in the
face of documentation, AND EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY FROM THEIR
OWN TROOPS IN THE FIELD, that they used White Phosphorous
as an incendiary weapon on suburbs of Fallujah!

Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
and your shitpig mate answer. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?

> Your efforts are hypocritical .

As if I, or any decent human being who opposes this use of
chemical weapons on civilian populations gives a shit what you
apologists for it think!?

Go talk to your bum buddy, Bash, and at least get him out
of his appalling ignorance about the military uses of W.P.
so he won't be such a clueless twonk when better informed
CIVILIANS are debating it's use!

At least then ONE of you will look slightly less hypocritical and
ridiculous!

> WP80 is nasty stuff

No shit, sherlock!?

After dosens of contributors to the threads I initiated documenting
in detail just how fucking nasty such chemical incendiary weapons
are when used on civilian cities.. thats the sum total of your
contribution? pffffft! (At least you are not as pig ignorant
wrong as Bash!)

B^p

And so, as the first person to raise, in these NG's,
the use of W.P. to incinerate men, women and children
in Iraq, you must agree I have done a valuable service
in showing precisely how it 'is Nasty Stuff' B^p
.... now, if only you can lift Bash out of his abysmal
ignorance you could claim to have done almost as much! B^p

You are a one-track broken record and you haven't had a new thought
since you and your butt-buddy crossposted me from a politics NG
into a.s.d, attacked my politics, got your arses kicked and whined to
mummy. YOu still attempt the same whiney ad hom because you have fuck
all to say on the ISSUE, and if you get return fire you whine like
babies that i'm rude to you, and complain to a blokes ISP.

Let me remind you two cowardly, lying, gutless, hypocritical,
cocksucking shitpigs that you have already declared me killfilled,
pretty much on a regular basis, EVERYTIME YOU GET OUT OF YOUR DEPTH,
AGAIN, so why don't you pack up your box of cliches and fuck off back
down your bunker, where you and boyfriend Bash can lick each others wounds.

> but your rhetoric

Oh, posting the FACTs which your mate Bash hasn't even
begun to grasp, is 'rhetoric'?? That fuckwit still
believes the FIRST bullshit US story spun about only using
W.P. for smokescreens and marking the field! B^P

I was the one who provided detailed proof of those lies, the
US military's backdown and admission they used it as an incendiary
weapon, the militaries use of this weapon on the civilian city,
Fallujah, and the horrors of incinerated bodies, including those of
women and children.. I have also provided proof of theose USSA
shitpigs grinning next to their incinerated victims.. the depraved
fuckers take the photos themselves and swap them online as TROPHIES!

And all you offer is a milksop agreement that yes is 'is nasty stuff'!

"Nasty stuff'??

We are not talking about mummy catching you with
semen all over your pyjama pants, you weasel word coward!

This isn't a piece of snot on your finger, or a brown smear
on it from Bash's arse!

Take a fucking look and come back and explain what you think
'rhetoric' is, you gutless moral defective!

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=17582&hd=0&size=1&l=x

The Americans, in retaliation for a mob publicly
executing four of their Sandline mercenaries (illegal
combatants) destroyed a city, filling it's sports
stadium with civilian dead, levelling it's buildings,
and using incendiaries on houses "SHAKE AND BAKE"
to create maximum terror.

Come back and deal with the REALITY, you moral maggot
or fuck off.. because your petty personal abuse, like
you yourself, is simply not worth pissing on;

> does not help the need to change it's use.
> Do you realise that your actually assisting the red neck brigade.
>

Listen sport, the truth is, if it wasn't for me raising the
issue in this forum you would not even be talking about it,
and even now you are doing your fucking damndest to prevent
talk about it, distract from it, make ME the issue (your usual
pathetic tactic, driven by your bitterness and spleen at my kicking
your arse on previous occasions) and try and bury ANY DISCUSSION
ABOUT IT;

> That said have you written to your elected reps or just still posturing
> for your own gratification and ego on Usenet.

He suggested I jam a phosphorous grenade up your arse and
see if we could light up either that dead weight between
your ears, a spark of courage for you to finally take a stand,
or the dark pit of your human soul.

I told him we would have to remove George Bush's DICK first.

___


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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:18:34 +1000
From: fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Torture and Murder, sodomy and Rape - the TexIRaq coverup
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:37:18 +1100
From: fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: "Wiley Pete" - US uses chemical weapons in Iraq

Message-ID: <437AF16E.80707@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:44:30 +1100
From: fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: USSA Admits Chemical Weapons Used in TexIraq

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:31:59 +1100
From: fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Weapons of terror used by War Criminals -
#274 - Shake and Bake




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fasgnadh wrote:
> Pits wrote:
>
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>
> aus.services.defence restored after sly edit by Snake Pits

>> Crap
>>
>
> It's ALL-American crap, the sort of thing being shoved
> down Iraq's throats, unasked for, by moral maggots such
> as your girlfriend, Bash, the sort of gutless maggot
> who cheers when unarmed wounded are executed,

You know your lying and have twisted so many posts
by your habit of selective cut& pasting tactics.

Show where Brash has cheered or any of us in ASD.


> and who LIES
> for the USSA by repeating the claim that W.P. is ONLY
> used for a smokescreen or to mark battlefields.

He as I recall actually just said it use is
Smoke screen and illumination target marking.

What concerns me, as always is your inability to comment on the wrongs
done by both sides in this sad affair.

Lets clear the air a bit here ------ why is the fact that you appear to
only post one side of the affair? Are you an apologist for the imported
Islamist fanatics ? It shoes an unhealthy bias imo . Wrongs are done by
the fanatics and I can not recall just one post where you have commented
on the deaths of innocents and non combatants caused by the terrorists.

Unlike you I assume I speak to Iraqi people and others there many times
a week.I can and do positively assert that a great majority of Iraqi
citizens and others despite the lie that bought the coalition there .
Are still happy and striving to get their country back on the rails .
And perceive the real enemy as Syrian & Iranian influences more of a
destabilising influence than the Americans.

> Even the
> Americans themselves have abandoned that SMOKESCREEN in the
> face of documentation, AND EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY FROM THEIR
> OWN TROOPS IN THE FIELD, that they used White Phosphorous
> as an incendiary weapon on suburbs of Fallujah!

You appear to take delight in such articles and the sad facts
it is rather strange to see your use of Xmas tree and other references
in something so vile. But war and combat faggy you have no first hand
knowledge of . Very few that I know who have been at the wrong end in
such situations EVER advocate a continuation for a moment longer than is
required.


Much reference has been made of your past history where it is said you
spat and threw refuse blood etc on returning troops. I have no first
hand evidence of that. However, your behaviour in Usenet land and the
habit of sexual innuendo and personal abuse to any poster who does not
toe your line of reasoning speaks for itself.

It appears that on one hand you purport to be compassionate about
the suffering of peoples . In reality it appears your just stroking
your ego and are the high priest of narcism.
You Fag hands are a vile despicable creature and actually not helping
ANY cause but your own.

You often post true blue blah blah fair go etc .
It is now proven such principals are truly beyond you.
In fact you have no hesitation to stooping to the lowest of the low
to further your own ends. Yet you have the unmitigated gall to call
others hypocrites. Get real and grow a back bone.

You are the most dangerous of liars ------ that which believes its own
press. You purport to be a man of learning B.Ec. etc
Yet you fly in the face of the majority of what that a holder of such a
degree should have learned. Perhaps you should be stripped of it :)
>
> Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
> and your shitpig mate answer. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
> SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
> INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?

You expect a rational and reasonable response to a question phrased in
such a manner ? Why would a thinking person given your methods and
history even bother. You have yet to display one skeric of any form of
the Australian ethic you so snidely trot out - the sense of a fair go.
You are a cure and a liar and without any morality what so ever.
Your worse than a fanatic that your actions and words actually help.
You are a divisive cowardly black hearted little being. Not a man
not an Australian not even human. You by your twisted manner are an
evil little person.
>
>> Your efforts are hypocritical .
>
>
> As if I, or any decent human being who opposes this use of
> chemical weapons on civilian populations gives a shit what you
> apologists for it think!?

There you are again holding yourself out as the paragon of truth and
virtue . It is not so - your are a cure and a liar and a coward.
>
> Go talk to your bum buddy, Bash, and at least get him out
> of his appalling ignorance about the military uses of W.P.
> so he won't be such a clueless twonk when better informed
> CIVILIANS are debating it's use!

You are not a better informed civilian by your very demeanour .
You prove time & time again that you are a sly, coward working to divide
the country for your own ends and own satisfaction only.
You are an apologist for the fanatic and a model for other fanatics.

As a purported B.Ec. You should understand that we are all victims of
our own perceptions of reality. You hold on reality it appears has never
wavered from a narcism born out of a twisted ideology in younger days.
>
> At least then ONE of you will look slightly less hypocritical and
> ridiculous!

I always look ridiculous (bit like the Mcwilliams monk these days )

>
> > WP80 is nasty stuff
>
> No shit, sherlock!?
No shit is correct I have the scars to prove it.
Additionally I have handled far more of the stuff than you ever will.

>
> After dosens of contributors to the threads I initiated documenting
> in detail just how fucking nasty such chemical incendiary weapons
> are when used on civilian cities.. thats the sum total of your
> contribution? pffffft! (At least you are not as pig ignorant
> wrong as Bash!)

You are such a hero --------- but to whom. the fanatics , the Syrians,
The Iranians, The Chechins. In that case I agree keep being what you
are. Avoid rational discussion at all times and all costs. Keep
prolonging angst and promoting the stifling of rational discussion
because you take delight in using more bandwidth to no good effect
whatsoever. You are deluding yourself if you think the majority of your
posts assist in thwarting the sadness over there or elsewhere in the
world. You do nothing but prove time after time that your a back hearted
coward a disgrace to Australia and liar with a foul mouth and a plain
downright nasty bit of work
>
> B^p
>
> And so, as the first person to raise, in these NG's,
> the use of W.P. to incinerate men, women and children
> in Iraq, you must agree I have done a valuable service
> in showing precisely how it 'is Nasty Stuff' B^p

It is very appropriate and proper to raise such.No argument there.
But again you prove by your words the narcism.
Right words wrong motive ------------- end of story.

> ... now, if only you can lift Bash out of his abysmal
> ignorance you could claim to have done almost as much! B^p

You seen the size of the bastard!!! You lift him yourself.
but doubt you would have the guts to sit down together and try and
thrash out your differences.
That would be real true blue and beyond you it appears.
>
> You are a one-track broken record and you haven't had a new thought
> since you and your butt-buddy crossposted me from a politics NG
> into a.s.d, attacked my politics,

Events prove that I nailed you straight up and was correct in having
you pegged as a totally bombastic net loony. Liar and slime ball.

I shall not resile from the above. You hang yourself by your own actions.

> got your arses kicked and whined to
> mummy. YOu still attempt the same whiney ad hom because you have fuck
> all to say on the ISSUE, and if you get return fire you whine like
> babies that i'm rude to you, and complain to a blokes ISP.

It is interesting that you take this view.
Could it be that rational people are not interested in you
or any group you contaminate .
>
> Let me remind you two cowardly, lying, gutless, hypocritical,
> cocksucking shitpigs that you have already declared me killfilled,
> pretty much on a regular basis,

This may be at odds with your reality that appears net centric
people some times have system crashes and not be bothered or have time
to replace the filters.
Yet here you still are turning out the same cut and paste deliberate
cross posting and blaming others for having the temerity to say
you are a coward a liar and a net loony .

> EVERYTIME YOU GET OUT OF YOUR DEPTH,
> AGAIN, so why don't you pack up your box of cliches and fuck off back
> down your bunker, where you and boyfriend Bash can lick each others wounds.

This is your preferred method isn't it fag nasty.
You show yourself as a coward and a liar and incapable of rational
adult debate - continually . Who really is the broken record?

>> but your rhetoric
>
>
> Oh, posting the FACTs which your mate Bash hasn't even
> begun to grasp, is 'rhetoric'??

Your words in fact are not rhetoric they are cowardly abusive and
driven by a black hearted selfish coward with no compassion or
ability to have an unbiased rational debate whatsoever. You keep wasting
tour time as it may stop you from breeding and contaminating others. go
for it sunny jim.

>That fuckwit still
> believes the FIRST bullshit US story spun about only using
> W.P. for smokescreens and marking the field! B^P

More delusions from fag hands keep foaming and ranting your only
doing your thing. Go for it .
>
> I was the one who provided detailed proof of those lies, the
> US military's backdown and admission they used it as an incendiary
> weapon, the militaries use of this weapon on the civilian city,
> Fallujah, and the horrors of incinerated bodies, including those of
> women and children.. I have also provided proof of theose USSA
> shitpigs grinning next to their incinerated victims.. the depraved
> fuckers take the photos themselves and swap them online as TROPHIES!

No you were not ----------- more self delusion you were NOT involved
in the uncovering of those incidents ------------ get a grip.
>
> And all you offer is a milksop agreement that yes is 'is nasty stuff'!
>
> "Nasty stuff'??

Simple concise and correct statement.
>
> We are not talking about mummy catching you with
> semen all over your pyjama pants, you weasel word coward!

The fact that you can even think up let alone post such "rhetoric"
May be prove of an early sad childhood or incidents that started you on
your twisted path.

You think this is the way to debate the bigger issue of the nasty stuff.
If so more proof that you are a cowardly dick head in your own little
world. It Does not work out here in the real world fag hands.
>
> This isn't a piece of snot on your finger, or a brown smear
> on it from Bash's arse!

This all from your own cowardly deluded mind . Or you have others
in a training camp with you. If so you may be a person of interest.

> Take a fucking look and come back and explain what you think
> 'rhetoric' is, you gutless moral defective!

Ranting snipped

> or fuck off.. because your petty personal abuse, like
> you yourself, is simply not worth pissing on;

Sigh ------ broke record any one who even slightly disagrees
or even agrees with fags it just starts up like a wind down doll
and blasts away at keyboard .

You use macros for many of your replies faggy ?

> > does not help the need to change it's use.
>
>> Do you realise that your actually assisting the red neck brigade.
>>
>
> Listen sport, the truth is, if it wasn't for me raising the
> issue in this forum you would not even be talking about it,
> and even now you are doing your fucking damndest to prevent
> talk about it, distract from it, make ME the issue (your usual
> pathetic tactic, driven by your bitterness and spleen at my kicking
> your arse on previous occasions) and try and bury ANY DISCUSSION
> ABOUT IT;

Pathetic really you don't need any help burying issues with reams
of abuse . Get a grip .

>> That said have you written to your elected reps or just still
>> posturing for your own gratification and ego on Usenet.
>
>
> He suggested I jam a phosphorous grenade up your arse and
> see if we could light up either that dead weight between
> your ears, a spark of courage for you to finally take a stand,
> or the dark pit of your human soul.

Liar. You using the concept of a soul proves what a coward
and liar you are .
>
> I told him we would have to remove George Bush's DICK first.

More lies.
> ___

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Responding keeps you from breeding.


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Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>> Pits wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>> aus.services.defence restored after sly edit by Snake Pits
...


>> Listen sport, the truth is, if it wasn't for me raising the
>> issue in this forum you would not even be talking about it,
>> and even now you are doing your fucking damndest to prevent
>> talk about it, distract from it, make ME the issue (your usual
>> pathetic tactic, driven by your bitterness and spleen at my kicking
>> your arse on previous occasions) and try and bury ANY DISCUSSION
>> ABOUT IT;
>
>
> Pathetic really

Ok, cite the discussions YOU had about the military
use of White phosphorous on civilian populations
under miltiary occupation BEFORE I shamed you into it?

If not, I will take it as proven you have ONLY
commented in order to get me to drop the issue,
as is your usual tactic;

>>> That said have you written to your elected reps or just still
>>> posturing for your own gratification and ego on Usenet.
>>
>>
>> He suggested I jam a phosphorous grenade up your arse and
>> see if we could light up either that dead weight between
>> your ears, a spark of courage for you to finally take a stand,
>> or the dark pit of your human soul.
>>
>> I told him we would have to remove George Bush's DICK first.



http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/





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Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>> Pits wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>> aus.services.defence restored after sly edit by Snake Pits
....


http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/


>>
>> It's ALL-American crap, the sort of thing being shoved
>> down Iraq's throats, unasked for, by moral maggots such
>> as your girlfriend, Bash, the sort of gutless maggot
>> who cheers when unarmed wounded are executed,
...
>
> Show where Brash has cheered

# From: "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@RemoveThis.ozdebate.com>
# Newsgroups:
# aus.services.defence,aus.politics,aus.legal,aus.cu lture.true-blue
# Subject: Re: "Wiley Pete" - US uses chemical weapons in Iraq
# Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:13:53 +1100
# Message-ID: <437af817$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
# Kwyjibo wrote:
# > fasgnadh wrote:
# >
# >>Remember this? It helped end the terror in Vietnam;
# >>
# >>http://www.tate.org.uk/liverpool/ima/rm6/images/vietnamchildren_lg.jpg
# >>
# >>The fuckers are at it again;
# >>
# >>
# >>"US 'uses incendiary arms' in Iraq
# >> - BBC 8/11/2005
# >>
# >> http://www.uruknet.info/pic.php?f=rai10.jpg
# >>
# >>"Italian state TV, Rai, has broadcast a documentary
# >>accusing the US military of using white phosphorus
# >>bombs against civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja.
# >>
# >
# >
# > The documentary is available here:
# > http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/fallujah_ING.wmv
#> (about 45M)
# >


Bash's response to the evidence the US has used incendiary
weapons on a civilian city under occupation:

"Big fucking deal."
Message-ID: <437b0cab$0$24390$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>

..accompanied by a weak lie the US
military has already abandoned that it was simply 'lighting
marking the field' - the SMOKESCREEN excuse for Shake and Bake!


# From: "Brash" <trooper1...@hotmail.SPAM>
# Newsgroups: aus.culture.true-blue,aus.services.defence,aus.politics
# Subject: Re: What the terrorist supporters talk about
# in the barbarian capital
# Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:34:40 +1100
# Message-ID: <41a5526a$0$17204$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
#
# "fasgnadh" <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
# news:41A1C921.1050302@yahoo.com.au...
# > Brash wrote:
# > > "fartgas" <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
# > > news:41A0172E.9060506@yahoo.com.au...
# > >
# > >>Aren't Mosques places of refuge
# > >
# > >
# > > Yes.
# >
# > Then why shoot an unarmed wounded man who
# > had been left in one the day before?
#
# First of all, it ceased to be a protected place from
# the moment your hero Islamofacists started stockpiling
# weapons there. They added to that war crime by shooting
# from there. So the "wounded" individual wasn't in a
# protected place when he was shot the first, or second, time. Idiot.

There were no 'stockpiled weapons' in the mosque, thats a Bash lie

The wounded man was UNARMED, lying on the floor at the feet of the
American who shot him in cold blood. How does an unarmed man
'shoot from there'?

Do you agree with Bash's absurd argument that other stuff, which didn't
happen, is a reason for shooting an unarmed wounded man, Cess?

Pair of fucking immoral TOSSERS! B^p

And moral defectives like you have the gall to suggest
we should not raise these issues but should quietly go
away and let you slumber in ignorance and denial..

Listen, fucknuckle, next time you feel like "posturing
for your own gratification and ego on Usenet" and wasting
everyones time bu raising everything undxer the sun EXCEPT
the issue of chemical weapons used on a civilian city
under occupation.. why don't you send your irrelevant claptrap
" to your elected reps" instead.. perhaps they can use it
to BORE civililians to death in Iraqi torture chambers!


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Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>> Pits wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh wrote:

>> Bash, the sort of gutless maggot
>> who cheers when unarmed wounded are executed, and who LIES
>> for the USSA by repeating the claim that W.P. is ONLY
>> used for a smokescreen or to mark battlefields.
>
> He as I recall

Love your selective editing you hypocritical maggot.


> actually just said it use is
> Smoke screen and illumination target marking.

No, he didn't just' say that, he claimed that was the
ONLY use of it in Iraq.. ..is he clueless or lying?

He deliberately IGNORED the evidence that white phosphorous
was used as a WEAPON, despite the US military having already
abandoned the same bullshit he tried to spin.

> What concerns me,

Who gives a fuck about your petty personal distractions
from the real issue of people being turned into blackened
streaks of carbon..?
....cry your whining about ME into your pilow before
you try and replace a public issue with your attempts
at SMOKESCREEN!


http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/




> as always is your inability to comment on the wrongs
> done by both sides in this sad affair.

Bullshit. It was I, not you who reported on the previous
incidents in the military attack upon Fallujah.

How far back do you care to go, because lets face it,
YOU ARE ONLY EVER PREPARED To DISCUSS YESTERDAYS WAR CRIMES
IF IT MEANS YOU CAN DISTRACT FROM TODAYS! B^p

So lets remid you of the history, because I am already on
record CONDEMMING the barbarity shown by insurgants and criminal
gangs, and that of the people who caused this situation.

The sack of Fallujah , levelling it's buildings and filling
it's stadium with mass graves was commenced in revenge for
a mob tearing apart four US mercenaries (armed irregulars,
illegal combatants in Rumsfeldt spoeak). I can quote my
post expressing horror at the brutal way the mob tore them apart
and hung the ramians from a bridge. Can you quote your condemnation
of it? LEts share and see who is CONSISTENT in condemming
brutality and who is the lying hypocritical Cess Pit! B^p

Of course the civilians of Fallujah subsequently fried by
'Shake and Bake' as the Americans exacted brutal revenge
were no more collectively responsible for the mob who
actually kileld the mercs, than the Iraqi people were
guilty of Sept 11, terrorism or threatening the West
with WMD's, which STARTED THE WHOLE FUCKING INVASION,
SLAUGHTER, TORTURE, AND RAPE IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE..

but I'm sure you can explain how you have been 'balanced'
by demanding everytime Iraqi civilians are baked alive
that we give equal time to the American civilians
cooked by Iraqi occupying forces! B^p Fucking lunatic!


Unlike you I am ON RECORD as condemning BOTH Saddam's
tortures AND (more pertinant for our reputation and
our immortal souls) the torture DONE IN OUR NAME..
as the people who INITIATED this WAR and are now
RESPONSIBLE for the state of public safety in the WHOLE
COUNTRY.. whereas you are only prepared to enter a
discussion if it condemns the insurgents!


>
> Lets clear the air a bit here

done.. your shite has been shovelled into a letter and
forwarded to your political reps.. (the poor bastards).

Please conduct all future bleating, spin, apologies
for the use of chemical weapons on civilians and general
Bush arse-licking with them!


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Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>


Pits, in order to achieve 'balance' between the incineration
of Iraqi Civilians, the lies Bash told trying to pretend
'Shake and Bake' only means 'Mark in the Dark' and 'Light at Night'
has decided that he will do better by groundshifting to
some old new lies:

> Much reference has been made of your past history where it is said you
> spat and threw refuse blood etc on returning troops.

Everyone knows you lied about that, and were shown to
be a gutless slandering cowardly shitpig when you
couldn't provide any proof the first time.

I remember it distinctly, it was in the same edition
that had the photos of you fucking young boys and hampsters.

> I have no first hand evidence of that.

Surely the unusual incidence of HIV among the Hampsters
and the choir is strong supporting evidence.

What next, you get back as good as you get so you run and
cry to mummy, AGAIN! B^D

>
> It appears that on one hand you purport to be compassionate about
> the suffering of people .

You and Bash don't even try to show compassion about suffering,
you apologise for it, excuse it and do all you can to stop
discussion about it that might help to STOP IT!

http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

Hey Pits, some of your mates in Baghdad need help
balancing their drill bits.. why don't you write to
your MP about it! B^D

To turn the Iraqi's into troops as disciplined as their own,
imbued with 'American values' such as 'Shake and Bake',
and Fuck the Prisoner..
the Americans have resorted to traditional techniques,
teaching the various militia and gangs to drill! drill! DRILL!

http://news.thomasnet.com/images/large/2005/02/460534.jpg

>> Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
>> and your shitpig mate answer.

Watch the slimy shitpig evade the question, and it was after THIS
challenge that he posted all the reams of bullshity and blather
about 'lack of balance' B^D

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
>> SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
>> INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?
>
>
> You expect a rational and reasonable response to a question phrased in
> such a manner ?

Not from you, clearly. No one expects a rational and reasonable
response from you.. and we never get one.

So fuck off, you moral coward and live in shame.


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Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>> Pits wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
....


>> Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
>> and your shitpig mate answer. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
>> SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
>> INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?
>
>
> You expect a rational and reasonable response to a question phrased in
> such a manner ?

I am balanced and consistent about brutality and violence,
Cess Pits isn't.

As his record shows he refuses to discuss the issue unless he
can turn the issue to ciolence by the insurgents.

He hypocritically suggests that there should be no discussion,
take it to your MP, UNLESS it is about the violence used by insurgents.

If you present him, or Bash with evidence of any atrocity
which, carried out IN OUR NAME, makes us responsible for it,
he will abuse, groundshift, whine, bleat and blather,
and then hypocritically ask 'why can't we talk about
the violence about which we CAN'T do anything instead of that
which we cause'!?


Complete abandonment of moral responsibility!

>> Go talk to your bum buddy, Bash, and at least get him out
>> of his appalling ignorance about the military uses of W.P.
>> so he won't be such a clueless twonk when better informed
>> CIVILIANS are debating it's use!
>
>
> You are not a better informed civilian by your very demeanour .


Me: "US 'uses incendiary arms' in Iraq
- BBC 8/11/2005


http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/


Bash: Big fucking deal. White phos is an illumination and
marking device. Of course Faghands would scream "chemical
weapons". Clueless fucktard.

The US Military: 'Shake 'n Bake'

"The Pentagon's admission - despite earlier denials -
that US troops used white phosphorus as a weapon in
Falluja last year is more than a public relations issue
- it has opened up a debate about the use of this
weapon in modern warfare.

The admission contradicted a statement this week from
the new and clearly under-briefed US ambassador in London
Robert Holmes Tuttle that US forces "do not use napalm or
white phosphorus as weapons".

The official line to that point had been that WP, or
Willie Pete to use its old name from Vietnam, was used
only to illuminate the battlefield and to provide smoke
for camouflage."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4442988.stm


Only clueless idiots who have their heads firmly
jammed up their arses, such as Bash, Pits and ferdie,
swallow whatever the lying Americans shove down their
throats ...while they are blowing them..

Americans think of BOGU boys like ferdie, Pits and Bash
as their willing Bitches.

This line however crumbled when bloggers (whose influence
must not be under-estimated these days) ferreted out an
article published by the US Army's Field Artillery Magazine
in its issue of March/April this year.

The article, written by a captain, a first lieutenant and a
sergeant, was a review of the attack on Falluja in November
2004 and in particular of the use of indirect fire, mainly mortars.

It makes quite clear that WP was used as a weapon not
just as illumination or camouflage.


________


Remember this? It helped end the terror in Vietnam;

http://www.tate.org.uk/liverpool/ima/rm6/images/vietnamchildren_lg.jpg

The fuckers are at it again;


"US 'uses incendiary arms' in Iraq
- BBC 8/11/2005

http://www.uruknet.info/pic.php?f=rai10.jpg

"Italian state TV, Rai, has broadcast a documentary
accusing the US military of using white phosphorus
bombs against civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja.

Rai says this amounts to the illegal use of chemical arms"

http://www.uruknet.info/pic.php?f=rai4.jpg

http://www.iranvision.com/images/iraqwarchem1.jpg


"Powerful new evidence emerged yesterday that the
United States dropped massive quantities of white
phosphorus on the Iraqi city of Fallujah during
the attack on the city in November 2004, killing
insurgents and civilians with the appalling burns
that are the signature of this weapon.

Ever since the assault, which went unreported by
any Western journalists, rumours have swirled
that the Americans used chemical weapons on the city [...]

"Phosphorus burns bodies, in fact it melts the flesh
all the way down to the bone ... I saw the burned
bodies of women and children. Phosphorus explodes
and forms a cloud. Anyone within a radius of 150
metres is done for."



So, not only Saddam uses chemical weapons against the Iraqi people!

"Eyewitnesses and ex-US soldiers say the weapon was
used in built-up areas in the insurgent-held city.

The US military denies this, but admits using white
phosphorus bombs in Iraq to illuminate battlefields.

Washington is not a signatory of an international
treaty restricting the use of white phosphorus devices."


WHITE PHOSPHORUS

Contact with particles causes burning of skin and flesh


http://www.uruknet.info/?p=17582&hd=0&size=1&l=x


Use of incendiary weapons prohibited for attacking
civilians (Protocol III of Convention on Certain
Conventional Weapons)

Protocol III not signed by US

Transmission of the documentary comes a day after the arrival of Iraqi
President Jalal Talabani on a five-day official visit to Italy.

It also coincides with the first anniversary of the US-led
assault on Falluja, which displaced most of the city's 300,000
population and left many of its buildings destroyed.

The documentary was shown on Rai's rolling news channel,
with a warning that the some of the footage was disturbing.

The future of the 3,000-strong Italian peacekeeping contingent
in Iraq is the subject of a political tug-of-war, says the
BBC's David Willey in Rome.

'Destroyed evidence'

The documentary begins with formerly classified footage
of the Americans using napalm bombs during the Vietnam war.

http://www.montville.net/highschool/spflugmoench/RA_Napalm_Victim_Saigon_South_Vietnam_1971.jpg

It then shows a series of photographs from Falluja of
corpses with the flesh burnt off but clothes still intact
- which it says is consistent with the effects of white
phosphorus on humans.

Jeff Englehart, described as a former US soldier who served in Falluja,
tells of how he heard orders for white phosphorus to be deployed over
military radio - and saw the results.

Map showing Iraqi cities of Baghdad and Falluja
"Burned bodies, burned women, burned children; white phosphorus kills
indiscriminately... When it makes contact with skin, then it's
absolutely irreversible damage, burning flesh to the bone," he says.

Englehart interview

Last December, the US state department issued a denial of what it called
"widespread myths" about the use of illegal weapons in Falluja.

"Phosphorus shells are not outlawed. US forces have used them very
sparingly in Falluja, for illumination purposes. They were fired into
the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters,"
the US statement said.

However, the Rai film also alleges that Washington has systematically
attempted to destroy filmed evidence of the alleged use of white
phosphorus on civilians in Falluja.

Italian public opinion has been consistently against the war and the Rai
documentary can only reinforce calls for a pullout of Italian soldiers
as soon as possible, our correspondent says.

Both the Italian government and opposition leaders are talking about a
phased withdrawal in 2006.

President Talabani and the US say the continued presence of
multi-national forces in Iraq is essential."



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Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>> Pits wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh wrote:

>
> As a purported B.Ec. You should understand that we are all victims of
> our own perceptions of reality.

WTF are you babbling about boy!? B^D

Have you been at the Agent Orange Icy Poles again?

> I always look ridiculous

Not as ridiculous as you sound


>> > WP80 is nasty stuff
>>
>> No shit, sherlock!?
>
> No shit is correct I have the scars to prove it.

They should not let nongs play with dangerous chemicals.

You have the scars to prove it.

Bash doesn't even realise it IS a chemical! B^D

The point at issue is it's USE as a CHEMICAL WEAPON! you dolt!
Not if you played with it and burnt yourself.. all that tells us
is what we already know.. that you are not be allowed anything
more dangerous than elastic bands!

>> After dosens of contributors to the threads I initiated documenting
>> in detail just how fucking nasty such chemical incendiary weapons
>> are when used on civilian cities.. thats the sum total of your
>> contribution? pffffft! (At least you are not as pig ignorant
>> wrong as Bash!)
>
>
> You are such a hero

I simply provide well argued, properly cited, accurate
and balanced discussion of important matters, and you
claiming to be the experienced Shake and Bake handler
manage only "It's Nasty Stuff' and 'I burnt myself"

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AHA!

You attack me with vile slander and lies, force me
to defend myself and then try and pretend i have an
ego for putting you straight! B^D

Piss weak! B^p

It's simple, I discuss the issues, attack brutal atrocities,
you attack me.. and talk shite.. the record is clear.

> --------- but to whom. the fanatics , the Syrians,
> The Iranians, The Chechins. In that case I agree keep being what you
> are. Avoid rational discussion at all times and all costs. Keep
> prolonging angst and promoting the stifling of rational discussion
> because you take delight in using more bandwidth to no good effect
> whatsoever. You are deluding yourself if you think the majority of your
> posts assist in thwarting the sadness over there or elsewhere in the
> world. You do nothing but prove time after time that your a back hearted
> coward a disgrace to Australia and liar with a foul mouth and a plain
> downright nasty bit of work

Do you need to lie down after that pointless and irrelevant rant?

>
>>
>> B^p
>>
>> And so, as the first person to raise, in these NG's,
>> the use of W.P. to incinerate men, women and children
>> in Iraq, you must agree I have done a valuable service
>> in showing precisely how it 'is Nasty Stuff' B^p
>
>
> It is very appropriate and proper to raise such.No argument there.

B^D Not fucking MUCH!

Read what you have posted, your ENTIRE contribution
on W.P, despite your claim to have handled it extensively,
is 'nasty stuff' you have defended Bash's misrepresentation
of ity's use, you have attacked me for accurately discussing
it's use, you have claimed it is egoism to be outraged
by the incineration of civilians and then called for 'balance'
while providing none!

You are all over the fucking shop, and I have just about got bored
shredding your bullshit with the scalpel of truth.


> But again you prove by your words the narcism.
> Right words wrong motive ------------- end of story.

Ah.. the ultimate Cop Out, Trial by Mystical Divination! B^D

YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE FACTS PRESENTED, SO YOU 'IMAGINE' MY MOTIVES!

Fuck off lightweight.

You are beneath contempt.
....

>>
>> Let me remind you two cowardly, lying, gutless, hypocritical,
>> cocksucking shitpigs that you have already declared me killfilled,
>> pretty much on a regular basis, EVERYTIME YOU GET OUT OF YOUR
>> DEPTH, AGAIN,
>
>
> This may be at odds with your reality that appears net centric
> people some times have system crashes and not be bothered or have time
> to replace the filters.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA HA!

Both of you had system crashes!? 8^o

Bit of a 'co-incidence', eh? B^D

No backup? Are you carelees or incompetent?
Don't tell me, 'you have the scars to prove it'! B^D

But you can own up, we all know the sheltered workshop closed-NG
you threatened you were joining when you huffed off,
is a bunch of timid, brain-dead losers.. that was the attraction
for you in the first place.. some one you might be able to BEAT! B^D

Tou missed the excitement of talking to someone other
than a witless clone of yourself..

You are back because I am your oracle.. you will be asking
for my autograph next. B^)

I have you and Bash worked out.. you both like to be spanked. B^D

And my boots need polishing.

It's a win/win situation.

> Yet here you still are turning out the same cut and paste

How can that be, these W.P, threads only started this week.

Yet here you are, churning out the SAME response as
you have given to posts as varied as the Iraq war, torture,
national defence, training at ADFA, and the Howard government
cutting service benefits.


You seem to be a troll.

> deliberate cross posting and blaming others

Bash crossposted me from aus.politics to a.s.d.
and you joined his crossposted ad hom.

You only cried to mummy when I thrashed your whole
gang.

Your hypocrisy is showing.

>
>> so why don't you pack up
>> your box of cliches and fuck off back down your bunker, where you and
>> boyfriend Bash can lick each others wounds.
>
>
> This is your preferred method isn't it fag nasty.

I do like to make gutless slandering shitpigs aware of precisely the
level of contempt in which I hold them, yes.

But on the other hand, if you want to stay and try and mount
an argument, rather than Bash, or your high horse, i am
prepared to watch and be amused... at least I won't complain to your
ISP like a gutless Big Girls Blouse, or threaten to shoot you! B^D
>
>>> but your rhetoric
>>
>> Oh, posting the FACTs which your mate Bash hasn't even
>> begun to grasp, is 'rhetoric'??
>
>
> Your words in fact are not rhetoric
....

I don't need to hear any more from you.

As soon as I have you backing down on one of your lies
I simply move on to demolish your next one..

otherwise you simply start spinning new ones, and hopw I will
give up because you tell so fucking many of them! B^p


>> That fuckwit still
>> believes the FIRST bullshit US story spun about only using
>> W.P. for smokescreens and marking the field! B^P
>
> More delusions from fag hands keep foaming and ranting your only
> doing your thing. Go for it .
>

I've shown you the proof, but you feel freee to
jam your head further up your arse, or Bash's,
whichever is more comfy and familiar.

http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html

>>
>> I was the one who provided detailed proof of those lies, the
>> US military's backdown and admission they used it as an incendiary
>> weapon, the militaries use of this weapon on the civilian city,
>> Fallujah, and the horrors of incinerated bodies, including those of
>> women and children.. I have also provided proof of theose USSA
>> shitpigs grinning next to their incinerated victims.. the depraved
>> fuckers take the photos themselves and swap them online as TROPHIES!
>
>
> No you were not ----------- more self delusion you were NOT involved
> in the uncovering of those incidents ------------ get a grip.

That is feeble, even for a pathetic, dishonest tool like you.

I said, truthfully and accurately, that I PROVIDED the detailed
proof, not that I 'uncovered' it.

So tell me, you slimy liar, who provided that detail
we are discussing to these NG's, if not me?

It sure as shit WASN'T you or that fucking military DIMWIT, Bash! B^D

>
>>
>> And all you offer is a milksop agreement that yes is 'is nasty stuff'!
>>
>> "Nasty stuff'??
>>
> Simple concise and correct statement.
>

So would be stating your mental age!

That would not stop it from being

Redundant, useless and irrelevant to the issue.


>>
>> We are not talking about mummy catching you with
>> semen all over your pyjama pants, you weasel word coward!
>
>
> The fact that you can even think up let alone post such "rhetoric"
> May be prove of an early sad childhood or incidents that started you on
> your twisted path.

I read your post and it has 'wanker' all over it.

I describe the obvious connections, we all know
why you post shit;

http://www.starterupsteve.com/funny12/gbush3.jpg


>
> You think this is the way to debate the bigger issue of the nasty stuff.

No but having tried the other way it was clear you
were NEVER going to say ANYTHING intelligible about
the military use of white phosphorous as a weapon
against civilians in occupied cities..

And apart from 'nasty stuff' .. YOU HAVEN'T B^D

Game, set, match!

http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

I will leave you wallowing in your tonnes and tonnes of
psycho babble about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING UNDER THE SUN!


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fasgnadh wrote:
> Pits wrote:
>
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>
>
> Pits, in order to achieve 'balance' between the incineration
> of Iraqi Civilians, the lies Bash told trying to pretend
> 'Shake and Bake' only means 'Mark in the Dark' and 'Light at Night'
> has decided that he will do better by groundshifting to
> some old new lies:

The conversation is not between you & Brash - are you unwilling to
address straight up -without modifying the text as you appear to be
deft at?
same old cowardly tactics change focus when it does not meet your
agenda . Avoid the core issues addressed specificly to you. And launch
into rants and fantasy land.

You unable ,unwilling or just not competent enough to speak rationally.


>
>> Much reference has been made of your past history where it is said you
>> spat and threw refuse blood etc on returning troops.
>
>
> Everyone knows you lied about that, and were shown to
> be a gutless slandering cowardly shitpig when you
> couldn't provide any proof the first time.

I was not the original ones saying it. I asked you
so ask you again ---------- what exactly did you do
in demonstrating your dislike for the times as they then existed.
What did you throw in those pre Usenet days ?
>
> I remember it distinctly, it was in the same edition
> that had the photos of you fucking young boys and hampsters.

Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.
While not adressing the issues. Keep posting this way fag hands. Shows
you up for what kind of thing you are.
>
> > I have no first hand evidence of that.
>
> Surely the unusual incidence of HIV among the Hampsters
> and the choir is strong supporting evidence.

Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.
While not adreessing the issues. Keep posting this way fag hands. Shows
you up for what kind of thing you are
>
> What next, you get back as good as you get so you run and
> cry to mummy, AGAIN! B^D

Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.
While not adreessing the issues. Keep posting this way fag hands. Shows
you up for what kind of thing you are
>
>>
>> It appears that on one hand you purport to be compassionate about
>> the suffering of people .
>
>
> You and Bash don't even try to show compassion about suffering,
> you apologise for it, excuse it and do all you can to stop
> discussion about it that might help to STOP IT!

You call *your* responses a discussion. Get a grip


> Hey Pits, some of your mates in Baghdad need help
> balancing their drill bits.. why don't you write to
> your MP about it! B^D

At least I have mates and most of them are in the awful situation
of trying to repair the broekn bodies and lives of the patients from all
of the conflict.

It is noted you do not address the issues raised why you never comment
on the damage inflicted on the populace by the fanatics and suicide
bombers supllied and financed by non coalition elements.
Are you a person of interest fag hands ?


>
> To turn the Iraqi's into troops as disciplined as their own,
> imbued with 'American values' such as 'Shake and Bake',
> and Fuck the Prisoner..
> the Americans have resorted to traditional techniques,
> teaching the various militia and gangs to drill! drill! DRILL!

Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.
While not adreessing the issues. Keep posting this way fag hands. Shows
you up for what kind of thing you are


>>> Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
>>> and your shitpig mate answer.
>
>
> Watch the slimy shitpig evade the question, and it was after THIS
> challenge that he posted all the reams of bullshity and blather
> about 'lack of balance' B^D

In your haste to cut and paste you missed the question.
Goes to the guts of how you respond . You fall foul of your own signal
to noise ratio.

>>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
>>> SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
>>> INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?

You are at last referring to the insurgents supported by you it appears
as well as Syria , Lebanon, Iran and many other pro Islamist s who prefer
their methods rather than negotiation or other less violent means.

Your incessant bombarding of cut /paste abuse/ and no reference
whatsoever to the other side
shows you as what you are.
An willing tool of violence and division.
But no guts to go and join your mates . Did you have talks with Willy B
or some of the mad Mullahs of late . Are you a person of interest fags ?
>>
>>
>>
>> You expect a rational and reasonable response to a question phrased in
>> such a manner ?
>
>
> Not from you, clearly. No one expects a rational and reasonable
> response from you.. and we never get one.

Who is the '"we" you refer too the mad mullahs and Islamist terrorist
fringe although clearly as mad as you have more guts and the good grace
to blow themselves up along with others.
You are on a farm property correct --------- you have stated before
you wish to drag down the "Torys" as you refer to them by any means.
Does this extend to others as fanatical as you ?
Your silence on newsgroups and reticence to discuss any other issue but
nailing the Tory's could ask many to ---------- are you a person of
interest.


>
> So fuck off, you moral coward and live in shame.
>
Does this mean
A you have no answer
b your Mullah mates don't like you addressing any other aspect apart
from drag down the Tory and overturn the Govt .
c You prefer abuse to balanced discussion
e all of above .

[Ext User(rhodos)]

"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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<snip about 5 hours of typing>

Sweet fuckin jesus. Get a job man!

[Ext User(Pits)]

fasgnadh wrote:
> Pits wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> Pits wrote:
>>>> fasgnadh wrote:

>
> Bash doesn't even realise it IS a chemical! B^D
Not my problem sort it out with him .

>
> The point at issue is it's USE as a CHEMICAL WEAPON! you dolt!
> Not if you played with it and burnt yourself.. all that tells us
> is what we already know.. that you are not be allowed anything
> more dangerous than elastic bands!

Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.

You really are a gutless twink .


> I simply provide well argued, properly cited, accurate
> and balanced discussion of important matters, and you
> claiming to be the experienced Shake and Bake handler
> manage only "It's Nasty Stuff' and 'I burnt myself"

Who said I burn't myself .

See there you go again -------
Adding ies that you then later repeat via cut and paste
You really believe your own lies dont you mullah boy .
>
> You attack me with vile slander and lies, force me
> to defend myself and then try and pretend i have an
> ego for putting you straight!

More lies -you have avoided EVERY straight answer

Keep proving what a coward you are and how incapable of
rational discussion you are.
>
> Piss weak! B^p
>
> It's simple, I discuss the issues, attack brutal atrocities,
> you attack me.. and talk shite.. the record is clear.

Liar .
>
>> --------- but to whom. the fanatics , the Syrians, The Iranians, The
>> Chechins. In that case I agree keep being what you are. Avoid
>> rational discussion at all times and all costs. Keep prolonging angst
>> and promoting the stifling of rational discussion because you take
>> delight in using more bandwidth to no good effect whatsoever. You are
>> deluding yourself if you think the majority of your posts assist in
>> thwarting the sadness over there or elsewhere in the world. You do
>> nothing but prove time after time that your a back hearted coward a
>> disgrace to Australia and liar with a foul mouth and a plain downright
>> nasty bit of work
>
>
> Do you need to lie down after that pointless and irrelevant rant?

Yes you are pointless and irrelevant. In this I agree.

>>>
>>> And so, as the first person to raise, in these NG's,
>>> the use of W.P. to incinerate men, women and children
>>> in Iraq, you must agree I have done a valuable service
>>> in showing precisely how it 'is Nasty Stuff' B^p
>>
>>
>>
>> It is very appropriate and proper to raise such.No argument there.
>
>
> B^D Not fucking MUCH!
>
> Read what you have posted, your ENTIRE contribution
> on W.P, despite your claim to have handled it extensively,
> is 'nasty stuff' you have defended Bash's misrepresentation
> of ity's use, you have attacked me for accurately discussing
> it's use, you have claimed it is egoism to be outraged
> by the incineration of civilians and then called for 'balance'
> while providing none!

Crap cite your posts of equal condemnation of those killing
who are not US Troops .

selective memory are the Mullahs and crazed fringe dwellers paying
you well fags or you just a zealot and equally as dangerous ?

>
> You are all over the fucking shop, and I have just about got bored
> shredding your bullshit with the scalpel of truth.

Not my problem you cant help but take to the keyboard at every
opportunity and spew forth the cut & paste repitition interlaced with
sexual innuendo and ratbaggery .
>
>
>> But again you prove by your words the narcism.
>> Right words wrong motive ------------- end of story.
>
>
> Ah.. the ultimate Cop Out, Trial by Mystical Divination! B^D

Nope
>
> YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE FACTS PRESENTED, SO YOU 'IMAGINE' MY MOTIVES!

Direct question - why ever no mention at the same signal to noise ratio
on those of non USA association killing the civilians ?

>
> You are back because I am your oracle.. you will be asking
> for my autograph next. B^)

And you say you have no ego --------------

> I have you and Bash worked out.. you both like to be spanked. B^D

oops fags is off and running with the march hares again

> And my boots need polishing.
>
> It's a win/win situation.
>
>> Yet here you still are turning out the same cut and paste
>
>
> How can that be, these W.P, threads only started this week.
You want music while you tap dance fags ?

>
> Yet here you are, churning out the SAME response as
> you have given to posts as varied as the Iraq war, torture,
> national defence, training at ADFA, and the Howard government
> cutting service benefits.
>
>
> You seem to be a troll.
>
> > deliberate cross posting and blaming others
>
> Bash crossposted me from aus.politics to a.s.d.
> and you joined his crossposted ad hom.
>
> You only cried to mummy when I thrashed your whole
> gang.

Gang ---------- what a sad outlook you enjoy -------
get a grip there is no gang .

> I do like to make gutless slandering shitpigs aware of precisely the
> level of contempt in which I hold them, yes.

>
> But on the other hand, if you want to stay and try and mount
> an argument, rather than Bash, or your high horse, i am
> prepared to watch and be amused... at least I won't complain to your
> ISP like a gutless Big Girls Blouse, or threaten to shoot you! B^D

When can we expect to see you alter the attributions on this latest
lie reappear fags?
Are you a shift worker /?

> I don't need to hear any more from you.
>
> As soon as I have you backing down on one of your lies
> I simply move on to demolish your next one..
>
> otherwise you simply start spinning new ones, and hopw I will
> give up because you tell so fucking many of them! B^p

That is your method -- you are a proven master of that.

And dont make the mistatke of presuming anything about me. Let alone
trying to prove it . Your just going to be beating a straw man.

> I've shown you the proof, but you feel freee to
> jam your head further up your arse, or Bash's,
> whichever is more comfy and familiar.

You get off on speaking like that -are you a person of interest fags /?

>>> I was the one who provided detailed proof of those lies, the
>>> US military's backdown and admission they used it as an incendiary
>>> weapon, the militaries use of this weapon on the civilian city,
>>> Fallujah, and the horrors of incinerated bodies, including those of
>>> women and children.. I have also provided proof of theose USSA
>>> shitpigs grinning next to their incinerated victims.. the depraved
>>> fuckers take the photos themselves and swap them online as TROPHIES!
>>
>>
>>
>> No you were not ----------- more self delusion you were NOT involved
>> in the uncovering of those incidents ------------ get a grip.
>
>
> That is feeble, even for a pathetic, dishonest tool like you.
>
> I said, truthfully and accurately, that I PROVIDED the detailed
> proof, not that I 'uncovered' it.
>
> So tell me, you slimy liar, who provided that detail
> we are discussing to these NG's, if not me?

refer to above where i said it is appropriate and proper to discuss such.
The Issue is the lack of balance for all involved. Your silence on the
others involved . Does this mean you side with them in some bizarre manner ?
>
> It sure as shit WASN'T you or that fucking military DIMWIT, Bash! B^D

What kind of dimwit to use some of your milder vernacular
does not balance discussion and/or argument by posting his/her views on
the atrrocities comitted by all sides not just the (as you say)USA and
Tory's which you have repeatedly vowed to attempt to destroy. Or any
pro sentiments . You the hypocrite in this instance
>
>>
>>>
>>> And all you offer is a milksop agreement that yes is 'is nasty stuff'!
>>>
>>> "Nasty stuff'??
>>>
>> Simple concise and correct statement.
>>
>
> So would be stating your mental age!
>
> That would not stop it from being
>
> Redundant, useless and irrelevant to the issue.

Not your best work but refresshing for lack of cut& paste.

>
>>>
>>> We are not talking about mummy catching you with
>>> semen all over your pyjama pants, you weasel word coward!
>>
>>
>>
>> The fact that you can even think up let alone post such "rhetoric"
>> May be prove of an early sad childhood or incidents that started you on
>> your twisted path.
>
>
> I read your post and it has 'wanker' all over it.
>
> I describe the obvious connections, we all know
> why you post shit;
>
> http://www.starterupsteve.com/funny12/gbush3.jpg

Without accessing the file assume its a pic -- what RSI starting to
set in from the many hours at the 'puter fags.
>
>
>>
>> You think this is the way to debate the bigger issue of the nasty stuff.
>
>
> No but having tried the other way it was clear you
> were NEVER going to say ANYTHING intelligible about
> the military use of white phosphorous as a weapon
> against civilians in occupied cities..
Until I see some comment on your mates the non USA combattants
you know the ones who say Allah blah blah before they blow up fellow
muslims woman and children whay would I wish to spend my time
addressing your posts in my usual manner before you contaminated the NG.
>
> And apart from 'nasty stuff' .. YOU HAVEN'T B^D
>
> Game, set, match!

Only in your mind fags only in your mind.
> http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg
>
> http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/
>
> I will leave you wallowing in your tonnes and tonnes of
> psycho babble about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING UNDER THE SUN!
>
>

But the good news it kept you off the streets a while longer.
toodle pip /

[Ext User(Pits)]

rhodos wrote:
> "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:437D5E61.1090000@yahoo.com.au...
>
> <snip about 5 hours of typing>
>
> Sweet fuckin jesus. Get a job man!
>
>
Well it kept him from molesting the farm animals for a while.
Look on the bright side.

[Ext User(ferdie)]

"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:437D5E61.1090000@yahoo.com.au...
>
> I will leave you wallowing in your tonnes and tonnes of
> psycho babble about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING UNDER THE SUN!
>
>
> --
> "Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
>
> "History shows us that there have been many
> struggles between the honest men of England and
> those that tyrannized them.
> All good laws come as innovation and as constraints upon
> the power of the King and Lords."
>
> -Colonal Thomas Rainsborough
> Council of the Army, Putney Church, 1647
>
> "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
> and fight to defend our rights and liberties."

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in
good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be
treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to
discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or
origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an
American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance
here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an
American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this
excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and
civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to
which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is
a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

[Ext User(ferdie)]

"rhodos" <meh@bleh.com> wrote in message
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> "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:437D5E61.1090000@yahoo.com.au...
>
> <snip about 5 hours of typing>
>
> Sweet fuckin jesus. Get a job man!

He's got one
He's a lollypop crossing man

[Ext User(fasgnadh)]

Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>> Pits wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
....
>>>> Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
>>>> and your shitpig mate answer.
>>
>> Watch the slimy shitpig evade the question, and it was after THIS
>> challenge that he posted all the reams of bullshit and blather
>> about 'lack of balance' B^D
>>
....

>>>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN
>>>> AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
>>>> INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?
>>>
>
> You are at last referring to the insurgents

Nice try, you lying tool, but that question,
asking YOU why you think it's ok for one side
to incinerate civilians in their homes but not
for the other side to blow them up in the street
shows that I have been consistent in condemming
the brutality on BOTH sides, FROM THE OUTSET,
and you have been consistent in avoiding balance
and making excuses for one group of shitpigs.

I don't even need to name them, your behaviour
makes it clear how you have consistently covered up
for the the torturers who use power drills on fellow
humans, who burn them to a crisp with chemical
incendiary weapons, and then joke about it as
"Shake and Bake", and who sexually abuse, rape and
murder prisoners.

You once lied to the NG that you opposed the war,
but you are really just a Bush tool and an apologist for
torture and murder, so long as it is by one side.

Get out of their country and stop torturing and
murdering those people!

>>> You expect a rational and reasonable response to a question phrased
>>> in such a manner ?
>>
>> Not from you, clearly. No one expects a rational and reasonable
>> response from you.. and we never get one.




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those that tyrannized them.
All good laws come as innovation and as constraints upon
the power of the King and Lords."

-Colonal Thomas Rainsborough
Council of the Army, Putney Church, 1647

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[Ext User(Pits)]

fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN
>>>>> AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS INCINERATING WOMEN AND
>>>>> CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> You are at last referring to the insurgents
>
>
> Nice try, you lying tool, but that question,
> asking YOU why you think it's ok for one side
> to incinerate civilians in their homes but not
> for the other side to blow them up in the street
> shows that I have been consistent in condemming
> the brutality on BOTH sides, FROM THE OUTSET,
> and you have been consistent in avoiding balance
> and making excuses for one group of shitpigs.

no where ever have said what you state above.
You are a coward and a liar and a divisive
Un Australian mongrel cur.
>
> I don't even need to name them, your behaviour
> makes it clear how you have consistently covered up
> for the the torturers who use power drills on fellow
> humans, who burn them to a crisp with chemical
> incendiary weapons, and then joke about it as
> "Shake and Bake", and who sexually abuse, rape and
> murder prisoners.

Nothing of the sort you devious mongrel .
>
> You once lied to the NG that you opposed the war,
> but you are really just a Bush tool and an apologist for
> torture and murder, so long as it is by one side.

Not even close you lunatic.
>
> Get out of their country and stop torturing and
> murdering those people!

Idiot --if you only knew how wrong you are on that.

So far off base you have those who know me rolling in the aisles.

Back to your terminal goofy.

[Ext User(regn.pickford)]

"ferdie" <ferdie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:437D5E61.1090000@yahoo.com.au...
> >
> > I will leave you wallowing in your tonnes and tonnes of
> > psycho babble about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING UNDER THE SUN!
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety
> > deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
> >
> > "History shows us that there have been many
> > struggles between the honest men of England and
> > those that tyrannized them.
> > All good laws come as innovation and as constraints upon
> > the power of the King and Lords."
> >
> > -Colonal Thomas Rainsborough
> > Council of the Army, Putney Church, 1647
> >
> > "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
> > and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
>
> "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here
in
> good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be
> treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to
> discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or
> origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an
> American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance
> here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't
an
> American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and
this
> excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and
> civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to
> which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is
> the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that
is
> a loyalty to the American people."
>
> Theodore Roosevelt 1907

Hear hear ..

[Ext User(fasgnadh)]

Pits wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>
>> Pits wrote:

Pits has completely abandoned any rational discussion
about chemical weapons use against civilian cities in TexIraq
and returned to his forte, slander and shit-splatter..
So lets make him wallow in his own filth:


>>> Much reference has been made of your past history where it is said you
>>> spat and threw refuse blood etc on returning troops.
>>
>> Everyone knows you lied about that, and were shown to
>> be a gutless slandering cowardly shitpig when you
>> couldn't provide any proof the first time.
>

Do we see any proof from Cess Pits now? Nope, as before.

He simply admits it was worthless hearsay he repeated
simply because he heard it from his paedophile mates
while they were fucking underage cadets together and
he has decided to repeat it, maliciously. Or so I heard! B^p

Oooops, Pits said I wasn't supposed to tell people about
his underage boys! B^p

>
> I was not the original ones saying it.

You never are original, you pathetic tosser.

You are steered by Bash's arm up you to the elbow.

> I asked you

You were told, you never listen to the truth
because it might stop you repeating your lies, again,
when you are beaten in rational debate... like now. B^)


> so ask you again

And I am happy to tell you again.

Go fuck yourself tou piece of shit.

And stop molesting underage boys. B^p


> ---------- what exactly did you do
> in demonstrating your dislike for the times as they then existed.

I campaigned against fat paedophiles, which is why
you are once again maliciously slandering me.

> What did you throw in those pre Usenet days ?
>

Photos of you giving the C.O a blow job.

He told the platoon you weren't half as good as Bash


>> I remember it distinctly, it was in the same edition
>> that had the photos of you fucking young boys and hampsters.
>
>
> Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.

Oh really? I wonder how that got started!? B^D


I wouldn't have revealed the truth about you, except your
former service buddies and your mum paid me to do it.

Have you had enough exchange of the slanderous
shite you always resort to?

Where to next, off to complain that someone is spreading
"your past history where it is said.." whatever lies come readily
to the shit pit you call a mind?

Or don't you like it hurled right back at you? B^)


> While not adressing the issues.

Oh the ISSUES.. I thought you had forgotten those
and were trying your damdest to mount another ad hom
shit-splatter slander-fest, ..as readily as you mount young boys.

I will just snip all the crap till we come to an ISSUE and
see who is avoiding it, eh?

Oh here's one: Compassion. You response is simple..

ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT HUMAN SUFFERING IS DISMISSED BY
YOU AS 'purporting' to be about compassion! B^D

Has anybody ever read such a fucking ridiculous attempt
to NOT DISCUSS SOMETHING! B^D

>>> It appears that on one hand you purport to be compassionate about
>>> the suffering of people .
>>
>> You and Bash don't even try to show compassion about suffering,
>> you apologise for it, excuse it and do all you can to stop
>> discussion about it that might help to STOP IT!
>
>
> You call *your* responses a discussion. Get a grip

And then.. because he doesn't want ANY FACTS to get in the
way of his lies slander and constant attempts to steer the
debate into ad hom and personal abuse, he SNIPS the CORE
ISSUE. Documentary Evidence of the use of chemical
weapons, Shake and Bake' on civilian cities in Iraq;

http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

There we go, Cess isn't much interested in debating either
compassion, or the use of White Phosphorous in spreading it!

What about the Iraqi torture chambers where those Pits
and Bash endlessly apologise for are stripping the skin from their
victims and ventilating them with power drills, anything to
discuss there;

>> Hey Pits, some of your mates in Baghdad need help
>> balancing their drill bits.. why don't you write to
>> your MP about it! B^D
>
> At least I have mates and most of them are in the awful situation
> of trying to repair the broekn bodies and lives of the patients from all
> of the conflict.
>
> It is noted you do not address the issues raised

The thread topic is the Use of White Phosphorous
as a weapon by the US military. Until I recently
raised this issue it had not previously been discussed
in these NGs. You have studiously refused to discuss
it and even surreptitiously snipped reference citations
to documentary evidence and facts about it's use.

Why have you, Bash and a few others tried to
deny, distract, deflect and destroy any discussion
about this new issue of shocking atrocities,
before it even gets started?

I accuse you Bash of being tools who are DELIBERATELY
trying to supress information by a sustained campaign of
disinformation. Who are you working for?

And then you try and deflect the discussion to
off topic issues which have already been discussed
at length in these forums, receive daily cover in the
media and have been condemmend, fruitlessly, till everyone
is blue in the face;

> why you never comment on the damage inflicted
> on the populace by the fanatics and suicide
> bombers supllied and financed by non coalition elements.

a) As Bash and your dreadful ignorance shows, this
is an issue that is neither widely known about
or understood. Your surprising reaction,
avoiding the facts you are clearly ignorant of,
snipping and supressing the discussion of it by
others, goes way beyond 'lack of interest' to
deliberate derailing, thread hijacking and supression
of the truth.

a) it is not true that I never comment on suicide
bombings, you are simply lying.
I have adressed that topic in many posts where
it WAS the topic, but it is not the topic here
and the question is why YOU refuse to comment on this,
the maiden discussion on this topic, insisting
that we should instead re-hash one already much
discussed. Why are you so determined to
stifle discussion with your off-topic ranting?

b) You do not have to try and silence discussion on
the current atrocity in order to discuss other
atrocities. In fact if you were genuine and
sincere YOU would have started your own thread
on that topic, instead of trying to hijack this one.

c) the fact that you didn't start additional threads to
discuss matters that are off- topic to this one
suggests that your real motive is not to rehash
that old story, but to use it simply as a pretext for
avoiding THIS ONE. Your motives for such bizzare
lack of balance are clearly suspect.

d) The topic you prefer, has been dealt with many times
before, and is covered extensively. It suits the
political establishment to try and bury ITS OWN
atrocities by pointing and shouting "Oh.. look over there!"
B^p You seem to be a willing tool in that.

e) Suicide bombers are covered in the media on a daily basis,
I see no evidence of you having any new insights to add,
you seem to merely wish to express outrage if it distracts
from outrage over this matter.. but NOT OTHERWISE!

In short you attack someone with something to say on
oranges, insist they say something about apples for
'balance', have nothing to say on apples yourself,
have not created apple threads in parallel to the
orange threads which have provoked lively debate,
and yet demand that those interested in oranges
stop doing so and talk about apples! It is nonsense
and you are absurd.

If you think this is not a fair characterization of your
hypocrisy, please direct me to some current threads YOU
have running on the topic of suicide bombers and I will
see if I have something original to add to them.

If you don't have any threads on the topic, or chose to
create one only because I have lit a fire under your
cauldron of lies and bullshit, then I will conclude
I am right in every respect about your motives, and
you can go fuck yerself! B^p

Of course, you will simply cycle between your
toolbox of feeble attempts to avoid the issues;
here's personal innuendo, again:

> Are you a person of interest fag hands ?
>

I'm clearly of interest to all the readers in Usenet
who want to know why everytime a new rape is discovered,
you say "Shut up! ..and ONLY talk about Saddams rape!!!"

It's getting old.

>> To turn the Iraqi's into troops as disciplined as their own,
>> imbued with 'American values' such as 'Shake and Bake',
>> and Fuck the Prisoner..
>> the Americans have resorted to traditional techniques,
>> teaching the various militia and gangs to drill! drill! DRILL!


http://news.thomasnet.com/images/large/2005/02/460534.jpg


> Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.

You must have been living in a cave if you are unaware
that a torture chamber has been revealed in Iraq, where
prisoners have been tortured by the Iraqi's trained by
the USSA. Some have been so brutally beaten thay are
paralysed, others have the skin flayed from their flesh,
and others have been taken to with power drills.

The fact that you don't know the reference to
Shake and Bake simply shows your complete
and utter ignorance of the subject under discussion!

The use of WP as a chemical weapon is so common
the US troops refer to it as Shake and Bake,
an American kitchen product with obvious uses.

Then there are the trophy photos which they exchange
on the internet, showing them doing a Lyndie England,
grinning, thumbs up, posed over the crisped bodies
of dead Iraqi victims.


>>>> Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
>>>> and your shitpig mate answer.

It goes to the question of 'balance', a concept pits insists,
for some unknown reason, every poster should adhere to,
although as we see, he does exactly the OPPOSITE.

Instead of talking about WP in my WP thread and
Suicide bombers in ANOTHER thread he could have created AT
ANY TIME.. he AVOIDS talking about WP COMPLETELY,
and merely bleats and whines endlessly and pointlessly
that everyone should instead talk, OFF -TOPIC, about
something else, even though he is not actually talking
about IT EITHER! B^P

B^p It is a transpatent ploy "Talk about what I want
you to, not aboout what you want to, at a time and place
I determine, and to the exclusion of all else! "

I think not.

>> Watch the slimy shitpig evade the question, and it was after THIS
>> challenge that he posted all the reams of bullshit and blather
>> about 'lack of balance' B^D
>
>
> In your haste to cut and paste you missed the question.

No, the question is below, you have missed it now on
four successive occasions. Enough to claim you are
DELIBERATELY evading it;


>>>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
>>>> SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
>>>> INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?
>>>
>
> You are at last referring to the insurgents

As the >>>> indents prove, It has been there,
placed by ME, ignored by YOU, since you joined
the thread.


You are firmly hoist on your own petard! B^)

Shown to be lacking balance, which I had from the
outset.

And what is more, you are STILL going to run away
and refuse to condemn chemical weapons used to
cook human beings in attacks upon civilian cities by
'occupying military forces.

Read your Geneva Convention, Pits, you complete disgrace
of a human being.

I will continue to snip any off-topic
babble unless it adresses the thread subject or
answers the question put to you about your
unbalanced particsan support for torture and the
use of chemical weapons on civilian populations.


>>> You expect a rational and reasonable response to a question phrased
>>> in such a manner ?
>>
>> Not from you, clearly. No one expects a rational and reasonable
>> response from you.. and we never get one.
>>
>> So fuck off, you moral coward and live in shame.
>>
> Does this mean

It means you were given a chance but failed.

> A you have no answer

I asked you the question, you have no answer, fool B^)




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fasgnadh wrote:
> Pits wrote:
>
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>>> Pits wrote:
>
I see that you have now unilaterally declared white phosphorus to be a
chemical weapon and have taken to use this to beat your boring old
anti-american drum.

Why am I certain that if the Americans had fronted up back in 2003 and
pointed to tonnes of Iraqi weapons containing white phosphorus and said
"Here's proof they had chemical weapons" you would have laughed it off
as ludicrous. Yet here you are ...

Well at least you are consistent.

[Ext User(fasgnadh)]

Harry Snape wrote:
>fasgnadh wrote:
>> Pits wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>>>> Pits wrote:
>>
>> Pits has completely abandoned any rational discussion
>> about chemical weapons use against civilian cities in TexIraq
>> and returned to his forte, slander and shit-splatter..
>> So lets make him wallow in his own filth:
>>
>>
>>>>> Much reference has been made of your past history where it is said you
>>>>> spat and threw refuse blood etc on returning troops.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Everyone knows you lied about that, and were shown to
>>>> be a gutless slandering cowardly shitpig when you
>>>> couldn't provide any proof the first time.
>>
>> Do we see any proof from Cess Pits now? Nope, as before.
>>
>> He simply admits it was worthless hearsay he repeated
>> simply because he heard it from his paedophile mates
>> while they were fucking underage cadets together and
>> he has decided to repeat it, maliciously. Or so I heard! B^p
>>
>> Oooops, Pits said I wasn't supposed to tell people about
>> his underage boys! B^p
>>
>>> I was not the original ones saying it.
>>
>> You never are original, you pathetic tosser.
>>
>> You are steered by Bash's arm up you to the elbow.
>>
>>> I asked you
>>
>> You were told, you never listen to the truth
>> because it might stop you repeating your lies, again,
>> when you are beaten in rational debate... like now. B^)
>>
>>> so ask you again
>>
>> And I am happy to tell you again.
>>
>> Go fuck yourself tou piece of shit.
>>
>> And stop molesting underage boys. B^p
>>
>>> ---------- what exactly did you do
>>> in demonstrating your dislike for the times as they then existed.
>>
>>
>> I campaigned against fat paedophiles, which is why
>> you are once again maliciously slandering me.
>>
>>> What did you throw in those pre Usenet days ?
>>
>>
>> Photos of you giving the C.O a blow job.
>>
>> He told the platoon you weren't half as good as Bash
>>
>>
>>>> I remember it distinctly, it was in the same edition
>>>> that had the photos of you fucking young boys and hampsters.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.
>>
>>
>> Oh really? I wonder how that got started!? B^D
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't have revealed the truth about you, except your
>> former service buddies and your mum paid me to do it.
>>
>> Have you had enough exchange of the slanderous
>> shite you always resort to?
>>
>> Where to next, off to complain that someone is spreading
>> "your past history where it is said.." whatever lies come readily
>> to the shit pit you call a mind?
>>
>> Or don't you like it hurled right back at you? B^)
>>
>>
>>> While not adressing the issues.
>>
>>
>> Oh the ISSUES.. I thought you had forgotten those
>> and were trying your damdest to mount another ad hom
>> shit-splatter slander-fest, ..as readily as you mount young boys.
>>
>> I will just snip all the crap till we come to an ISSUE and
>> see who is avoiding it, eh?
>>
>> Oh here's one: Compassion. You response is simple..
>>
>> ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT HUMAN SUFFERING IS DISMISSED BY
>> YOU AS 'purporting' to be about compassion! B^D
>>
>> Has anybody ever read such a fucking ridiculous attempt
>> to NOT DISCUSS SOMETHING! B^D
>>
>>>>> It appears that on one hand you purport to be compassionate about
>>>>> the suffering of people .
>>>
>>>
>>>> You and Bash don't even try to show compassion about suffering,
>>>> you apologise for it, excuse it and do all you can to stop
>>>> discussion about it that might help to STOP IT!
>>
>>
>>
>>> You call *your* responses a discussion. Get a grip
>>
>>
>> And then.. because he doesn't want ANY FACTS to get in the
>> way of his lies slander and constant attempts to steer the
>> debate into ad hom and personal abuse, he SNIPS the CORE
>> ISSUE. Documentary Evidence of the use of chemical
>> weapons, Shake and Bake' on civilian cities in Iraq;
>>
>> http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg
>>
>> http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/
>>
>> There we go, Cess isn't much interested in debating either
>> compassion, or the use of White Phosphorous in spreading it!
>>
>> What about the Iraqi torture chambers where those Pits
>> and Bash endlessly apologise for are stripping the skin from their
>> victims and ventilating them with power drills, anything to
>> discuss there;
>>
>>>> Hey Pits, some of your mates in Baghdad need help
>>>> balancing their drill bits.. why don't you write to
>>>> your MP about it! B^D
>>
>>
>>> At least I have mates and most of them are in the awful situation
>>> of trying to repair the broekn bodies and lives of the patients from all
>>> of the conflict.
>>
>>> It is noted you do not address the issues raised
>>
>>
>> The thread topic is the Use of White Phosphorous
>> as a weapon by the US military. Until I recently
>> raised this issue it had not previously been discussed
>> in these NGs. You have studiously refused to discuss
>> it and even surreptitiously snipped reference citations
>> to documentary evidence and facts about it's use.
>>
>> Why have you, Bash and a few others tried to
>> deny, distract, deflect and destroy any discussion
>> about this new issue of shocking atrocities,
>> before it even gets started?
>>
>> I accuse you Bash of being tools who are DELIBERATELY
>> trying to supress information by a sustained campaign of
>> disinformation. Who are you working for?
>>
>> And then you try and deflect the discussion to
>> off topic issues which have already been discussed
>> at length in these forums, receive daily cover in the
>> media and have been condemmend, fruitlessly, till everyone
>> is blue in the face;
>>
>> >> why you never comment on the damage inflicted
>>
>>> on the populace by the fanatics and suicide bombers supllied and
>>> financed by non coalition elements.
>>
>>
>> a) As Bash and your dreadful ignorance shows, this
>> is an issue that is neither widely known about
>> or understood. Your surprising reaction,
>> avoiding the facts you are clearly ignorant of,
>> snipping and supressing the discussion of it by
>> others, goes way beyond 'lack of interest' to
>> deliberate derailing, thread hijacking and supression
>> of the truth.
>>
>> a) it is not true that I never comment on suicide
>> bombings, you are simply lying.
>> I have adressed that topic in many posts where
>> it WAS the topic, but it is not the topic here
>> and the question is why YOU refuse to comment on this,
>> the maiden discussion on this topic, insisting
>> that we should instead re-hash one already much
>> discussed. Why are you so determined to
>> stifle discussion with your off-topic ranting?
>>
>> b) You do not have to try and silence discussion on
>> the current atrocity in order to discuss other
>> atrocities. In fact if you were genuine and
>> sincere YOU would have started your own thread
>> on that topic, instead of trying to hijack this one.
>>
>> c) the fact that you didn't start additional threads to
>> discuss matters that are off- topic to this one
>> suggests that your real motive is not to rehash
>> that old story, but to use it simply as a pretext for
>> avoiding THIS ONE. Your motives for such bizzare
>> lack of balance are clearly suspect.
>>
>> d) The topic you prefer, has been dealt with many times
>> before, and is covered extensively. It suits the
>> political establishment to try and bury ITS OWN
>> atrocities by pointing and shouting "Oh.. look over there!"
>> B^p You seem to be a willing tool in that.
>>
>> e) Suicide bombers are covered in the media on a daily basis,
>> I see no evidence of you having any new insights to add,
>> you seem to merely wish to express outrage if it distracts
>> from outrage over this matter.. but NOT OTHERWISE!
>>
>> In short you attack someone with something to say on
>> oranges, insist they say something about apples for
>> 'balance', have nothing to say on apples yourself,
>> have not created apple threads in parallel to the
>> orange threads which have provoked lively debate,
>> and yet demand that those interested in oranges
>> stop doing so and talk about apples! It is nonsense
>> and you are absurd.
>>
>> If you think this is not a fair characterization of your
>> hypocrisy, please direct me to some current threads YOU
>> have running on the topic of suicide bombers and I will
>> see if I have something original to add to them.
>>
>> If you don't have any threads on the topic, or chose to
>> create one only because I have lit a fire under your
>> cauldron of lies and bullshit, then I will conclude
>> I am right in every respect about your motives, and
>> you can go fuck yerself! B^p
>>
>> Of course, you will simply cycle between your
>> toolbox of feeble attempts to avoid the issues;
>> here's personal innuendo, again:
>>
>>> Are you a person of interest fag hands ?
>>
>>
>> I'm clearly of interest to all the readers in Usenet
>> who want to know why everytime a new rape is discovered,
>> you say "Shut up! ..and ONLY talk about Saddams rape!!!"
>>
>> It's getting old.
>>
>>>> To turn the Iraqi's into troops as disciplined as their own,
>>>> imbued with 'American values' such as 'Shake and Bake',
>>>> and Fuck the Prisoner..
>>>> the Americans have resorted to traditional techniques,
>>>> teaching the various militia and gangs to drill! drill! DRILL!
>>
>>
>>
>> http://news.thomasnet.com/images/large/2005/02/460534.jpg
>>
>>
>>> Noted how you again resort to snide cowardly unproven statements.
>>
>>
>> You must have been living in a cave if you are unaware
>> that a torture chamber has been revealed in Iraq, where
>> prisoners have been tortured by the Iraqi's trained by
>> the USSA. Some have been so brutally beaten thay are
>> paralysed, others have the skin flayed from their flesh,
>> and others have been taken to with power drills.
>>
>> The fact that you don't know the reference to
>> Shake and Bake simply shows your complete
>> and utter ignorance of the subject under discussion!
>>
>> The use of WP as a chemical weapon is so common
>> the US troops refer to it as Shake and Bake,
>> an American kitchen product with obvious uses.
>>
>> Then there are the trophy photos which they exchange
>> on the internet, showing them doing a Lyndie England,
>> grinning, thumbs up, posed over the crisped bodies
>> of dead Iraqi victims.
>>
>>
>>>>>> Now there really is only one question I'm interested in hearing you
>>>>>> and your shitpig mate answer.
>>>>
>>
>> It goes to the question of 'balance', a concept pits insists,
>> for some unknown reason, every poster should adhere to,
>> although as we see, he does exactly the OPPOSITE.
>>
>> Instead of talking about WP in my WP thread and
>> Suicide bombers in ANOTHER thread he could have created AT
>> ANY TIME.. he AVOIDS talking about WP COMPLETELY,
>> and merely bleats and whines endlessly and pointlessly
>> that everyone should instead talk, OFF -TOPIC, about
>> something else, even though he is not actually talking
>> about IT EITHER! B^P
>>
>> B^p It is a transpatent ploy "Talk about what I want
>> you to, not aboout what you want to, at a time and place
>> I determine, and to the exclusion of all else! "
>>
>> I think not.
>>
>>>> Watch the slimy shitpig evade the question, and it was after THIS
>>>> challenge that he posted all the reams of bullshit and blather
>>>> about 'lack of balance' B^D
>>
>>
>>
>>> In your haste to cut and paste you missed the question.
>>
>>
>> No, the question is below, you have missed it now on
>> four successive occasions. Enough to claim you are
>> DELIBERATELY evading it;
>>
>>
>>>>>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
>>>>>> SHITPIGS BLOWING WOMEN AND CHILDREN UP IN THE STREETS, AND SHITPIGS
>>>>>> INCINERATING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>> You are at last referring to the insurgents
>>
>>
>> As the >>>>> indents prove, It has been there,
>> placed by ME, ignored by YOU, since you joined
>> the thread.
>>
>>
>> You are firmly hoist on your own petard! B^)
>>
>> Shown to be lacking balance, which I had from the
>> outset.
>>
>> And what is more, you are STILL going to run away
>> and refuse to condemn chemical weapons used to
>> cook human beings in attacks upon civilian cities by
>> 'occupying military forces.
>>
>> Read your Geneva Convention, Pits, you complete disgrace
>> of a human being.
>>
>> I will continue to snip any off-topic
>> babble unless it adresses the thread subject or
>> answers the question put to you about your
>> unbalanced particsan support for torture and the
>> use of chemical weapons on civilian populations.
>>
>>
>>>>> You expect a rational and reasonable response to a question phrased
>>>>> in such a manner ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not from you, clearly. No one expects a rational and reasonable
>>>> response from you.. and we never get one.
>>>
>>>> So fuck off, you moral coward and live in shame.
>>>
>>> Does this mean
>>
>>
>> It means you were given a chance but failed.
>>
>>> A you have no answer
>>
>>
>> I asked you the question, you have no answer, fool B^)
>
> I see that you have now unilaterally declared white phosphorus to be a
> chemical weapon

1. You don't 'see' a damn thing, you have not addressed
a single issue, not contested a single point.

2. There is nothing unilateral about calling chemicals used
as weapons what they are usually called: "chemical weapons"

It seemed more respectful to the incinerated victims
to use the proper term, rather than the disgraceful
euphamism "Shake and Bake" used by the Americans
who are photographed standing grinning and giving
thumbs up nect to the blackened corpses -
something you don't seem to have raised a single
squeak of protest about.

3: what do YOU call the weapons that do this to people;

http://mindprod.com/images/iraqphosphorus1.jpg

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

> and have taken to use this to beat your boring old
> anti-american drum.

So if the Americans use "Shake and Bake" to burn to death
the inhabitants of Fallujah, you are silent, 8^o

....but if I talk about it, that offends you? pffft!


Are you ad sockpuppet for Bash, he also thinks it's
acceptable to shoot unarmed wounded prisoners in cold
blood, but distasteful for anyone to talk about it
or question it.

You know what the pair of you moral defectives can do!?!

> Why am I certain

because you are prejudiced and made up your mind before
the facts, which you ignore as you drift into FANTASY LAND;

> that if the Americans had fronted up back in 2003 and
> pointed to tonnes of Iraqi weapons

They did, they called them "WMD's" and claimed they had
to invade Iraq and slaughter tens of thousands of men
women and children to protect us from them, and then
they quietly dropped the whole bag of lies...

> containing white phosphorus and said
> "Here's proof they had chemical weapons" you would have laughed it off

Saddam did have chemical weapons, you stupid tool,
and the filthy shitpig used them against the Iranians
in the war the USSA supported him in, and also against
his own people, the Kurds.

I had no trouble condemmning that murderous tyrant when
you American arse lickers were still supporting Saddam,
when Howard's AWB sent him a $300,000,000 taxpayer
funded KICKBACK so he could build more torture chambers
in which his sons could rape young women..

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/rumsfeld_&_hussein1.jpg



But at the time you moral defectives were all barking
in unison at whatever enemy de jour you were set upon
to distract from the support given to Saddam at the time..

now you try to re-hash the same crimes you ignored then
FOR THE SAME PURPOSE:- So YOU CAN IGNORE, DISTRACT,
DEFLECT, DECOY, DENY AND DIMINISH THE CURRENT ATROCITIES!

B^p

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/rumsfeld_&_hussein1.jpg

Grow some integrity.


> as ludicrous. Yet here you are ...


Yep, still denouncing the torture, rape, murder
and chemical weapons you have never raise a peep
about, under Saddam or the regime that has replaced him!


> Well at least you are consistent.

Consistent in denouncing Saddam and ALL those
who aided and abbetted him, as well as those
who copy him today!

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/justice.htm

While you are consistent in defending all those who
commit the atrocities, and in attacking those of us
who condemn them.



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