380 makes falcon and commodore look like duds

[Ext User(free2speed@hotmail.com)]

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10698&vf=7&bg=22&pp=0

[Ext User(zonie)]

I was at the new car show here in Arizona last night. Had the Mitsubishi
display across the aisle from Hyundai. I think Mitsi would have been wise
to base the new Galant/380 on it's sister car the Sonata instead of what
it is now.
The Sonata interior was much nicer in my opinion, and better styling all
around the exterior. Scott

[Ext User(RodP)]

In article <1133047637.347557.269450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups. com>,
says...

> http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10698&vf=7&bg=22&pp=0

You're a laugh.

From the article you quoted...

The 380 is a well-turned-out vehicle but the price is a little too high
in our opinion and this can only hurt the car's resale value once prices
start to get trimmed. And resale value is the biggest cost of car
ownership. Had the 380 been a couple of thousand dollars cheaper, it
would have won.

This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class. In our opinion, it
has the best blend of power, performance, equipment, roominess and
value, once the life of the car is taken into account. It's a big car
for a big country but, even in its most basic guise, we can't help but
be attracted to its rugged charm.

--
Cheers,
Rod.

[Ext User(jackbadger)]

I'll cut to the chase then huh?
As quoted in the link you provided;

"The 380 is a well-turned-out vehicle but the price is a little too high
in our opinion and this can only hurt the car's resale value once prices
start to get trimmed. And resale value is the biggest cost of car
ownership. Had the 380 been a couple of thousand dollars cheaper, it would
have won.

This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class. In our opinion, it
has the best blend of power, performance, equipment, roominess and value,
once the life of the car is taken into account. It's a big car for a big
country but, even in its most basic guise, we can't help but be attracted
to its rugged charm."

.....and just in case you missed it,

"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."

....one more time for the dummy...

"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."

Own-goal for free-2-speed then.


PS
"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:10:52 +1100, RodP <rodp@hotmail.com.nothere>
scribbled thusly:

>In article <1133047637.347557.269450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups. com>,
> says...
>
>> http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10698&vf=7&bg=22&pp=0
>
>You're a laugh.
>
>From the article you quoted...
>
>The 380 is a well-turned-out vehicle but the price is a little too high
>in our opinion and this can only hurt the car's resale value once prices
>start to get trimmed. And resale value is the biggest cost of car
>ownership. Had the 380 been a couple of thousand dollars cheaper, it
>would have won.
>
>This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class. In our opinion, it
>has the best blend of power, performance, equipment, roominess and
>value, once the life of the car is taken into account. It's a big car
>for a big country but, even in its most basic guise, we can't help but
>be attracted to its rugged charm.

Funny init...It's exactly the same price as the Commodore and Falcon,
better appointed and better built with a better warranty.




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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:17:40 -0500, "jackbadger"
<castle56@keepitcar.gmail.com> scribbled thusly:

>I'll cut to the chase then huh?
>As quoted in the link you provided;
>
>"The 380 is a well-turned-out vehicle but the price is a little too high
>in our opinion and this can only hurt the car's resale value once prices
>start to get trimmed. And resale value is the biggest cost of car
>ownership. Had the 380 been a couple of thousand dollars cheaper, it would
>have won.
>
>This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class. In our opinion, it
>has the best blend of power, performance, equipment, roominess and value,
>once the life of the car is taken into account. It's a big car for a big
>country but, even in its most basic guise, we can't help but be attracted
>to its rugged charm."
>
>....and just in case you missed it,
>
>"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
>
>...one more time for the dummy...
>
>"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
>
>Own-goal for free-2-speed then.
>
>
>PS
>"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
>
>

As also quoted from the article
Falcon
RRP: $35,880.

Engine: 4.0-litre, in-line six-cylinder.

Power: 190kW at 5250rpm, 383Nm at 2500rpm.

Transmission: Four-speed automatic with manual override.

Claimed fuel consumption: 10.9 litres/100km.

Holden
RRP: $35,900.

Engine: 3.6-litre V6.

Power: 175kW at 6000rpm, 320Nm at 2800rpm.

Transmission: Four-speed automatic.

Claimed fuel consumption: 11.1 litres/100km.

380
RRP: $35,990.

Engine: 3.8-litre V6.

Power: 175kW at 5250rpm, 343Nm at 4000rpm.

Transmission: Five-speed automatic with manual override.

Claimed fuel consumption: 10.8 litres/100km.

Why does a vehicle that has a 5 speed auto with manual overide, and
gets better fuel consumption from a similar power output, with better
warranty and at least the same trim level,
Need to be priced a couple of thousand cheaper?

Seems to me the writer is just a little off base here.


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[Ext User(Blackbird)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:ttuho1t2c2ca5d0les8e3bafgfii1sn665@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:17:40 -0500, "jackbadger"
> <castle56@keepitcar.gmail.com> scribbled thusly:
>
> >I'll cut to the chase then huh?
> >As quoted in the link you provided;
> >
> >"The 380 is a well-turned-out vehicle but the price is a little too high
> >in our opinion and this can only hurt the car's resale value once prices
> >start to get trimmed. And resale value is the biggest cost of car
> >ownership. Had the 380 been a couple of thousand dollars cheaper, it
would
> >have won.
> >
> >This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class. In our opinion, it
> >has the best blend of power, performance, equipment, roominess and value,
> >once the life of the car is taken into account. It's a big car for a big
> >country but, even in its most basic guise, we can't help but be attracted
> >to its rugged charm."
> >
> >....and just in case you missed it,
> >
> >"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
> >
> >...one more time for the dummy...
> >
> >"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
> >
> >Own-goal for free-2-speed then.
> >
> >
> >PS
> >"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
> >
> >
>
> As also quoted from the article
> Falcon
> RRP: $35,880.
>
> Engine: 4.0-litre, in-line six-cylinder.
>
> Power: 190kW at 5250rpm, 383Nm at 2500rpm.
>
> Transmission: Four-speed automatic with manual override.
>
> Claimed fuel consumption: 10.9 litres/100km.
>
> Holden
> RRP: $35,900.
>
> Engine: 3.6-litre V6.
>
> Power: 175kW at 6000rpm, 320Nm at 2800rpm.
>
> Transmission: Four-speed automatic.
>
> Claimed fuel consumption: 11.1 litres/100km.
>
> 380
> RRP: $35,990.
>
> Engine: 3.8-litre V6.
>
> Power: 175kW at 5250rpm, 343Nm at 4000rpm.
>
> Transmission: Five-speed automatic with manual override.
>
> Claimed fuel consumption: 10.8 litres/100km.
>
> Why does a vehicle that has a 5 speed auto with manual overide, and
> gets better fuel consumption from a similar power output, with better
> warranty and at least the same trim level,
> Need to be priced a couple of thousand cheaper?
>
> Seems to me the writer is just a little off base here.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Holden will finally kill off magna/380 when the new commodore is released in
2006.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:33:52 +1000, "Blackbird"
<uglycars@mitsushiti.com> scribbled thusly:

>
>Holden will finally kill off magna/380 when the new commodore is released in
>2006.
>

Magna is dead, MMAL killed it off.
Do you really think Holden can get around that crappy new engine?



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[Ext User(atec)]

OzOne wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:10:52 +1100, RodP <rodp@hotmail.com.nothere>
>scribbled thusly:
>
>
>
>>In article <1133047637.347557.269450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups. com>,
>>says...
>>
>>
>>
>>>http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10698&vf=7&bg=22&pp=0
>>>
>>>
>>You're a laugh.
>>
>>
>>
>>From the article you quoted...
>
>
>>The 380 is a well-turned-out vehicle but the price is a little too high
>>in our opinion and this can only hurt the car's resale value once prices
>>start to get trimmed. And resale value is the biggest cost of car
>>ownership. Had the 380 been a couple of thousand dollars cheaper, it
>>would have won.
>>
>>This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class. In our opinion, it
>>has the best blend of power, performance, equipment, roominess and
>>value, once the life of the car is taken into account. It's a big car
>>for a big country but, even in its most basic guise, we can't help but
>>be attracted to its rugged charm.
>>
>>
>
>Funny init...It's exactly the same price as the Commodore and Falcon,
>better appointed and better built with a better warranty.
>Its not a better car and is as I said over priced and fwd , much to the detriment of the model , slao rear vision is heavily impared for a tall person like me so how do the shorties manage , and no rwd ute on gas factory.
>
>
>
>Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
>I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
>
>

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:18:36 +1000, atec <atec77@###hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:



>Its not a better car and is as I said over priced and fwd , much to the detriment of the model , slao rear vision is heavily impared for a tall person like me so how do the shorties manage , and no rwd ute on gas factory.

Not better in your opinion, Just better engineered and manufactured.
Impaired rear vision?
Why? It has no bootlid obstruction ... have you sat in a Commodore?

Bwaaahahhahahahahahahaaaa!
No RWD ute?
They make a Triton for that!
I struggle to understand why Holden and Ford bother with a sedan based
ute when it flys directly in competition with their 'proper' work
vehicles.


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[Ext User(atec)]

OzOne wrote:

>
>I struggle to understand
>
>
yup we can see that

>Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
>I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
>
>

[Ext User(rmcgrice)]

atec <atec77@###hotmail.com> wrote in news:43890f2f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:

> OzOne wrote:
>
>>
>>I struggle to understand
>>
>>
> yup we can see that

Understatement of the year :-)

[Ext User(The Interceptor)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:ttuho1t2c2ca5d0les8e3bafgfii1sn665@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:17:40 -0500, "jackbadger"
> <castle56@keepitcar.gmail.com> scribbled thusly:
>
>>I'll cut to the chase then huh?
>>As quoted in the link you provided;
>>
>>"The 380 is a well-turned-out vehicle but the price is a little too high
>>in our opinion and this can only hurt the car's resale value once prices
>>start to get trimmed. And resale value is the biggest cost of car
>>ownership. Had the 380 been a couple of thousand dollars cheaper, it would
>>have won.
>>
>>This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class. In our opinion, it
>>has the best blend of power, performance, equipment, roominess and value,
>>once the life of the car is taken into account. It's a big car for a big
>>country but, even in its most basic guise, we can't help but be attracted
>>to its rugged charm."
>>
>>....and just in case you missed it,
>>
>>"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
>>
>>...one more time for the dummy...
>>
>>"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
>>
>>Own-goal for free-2-speed then.
>>
>>
>>PS
>>"This leaves the Ford Falcon at the top of the class."
>>
>>
>
> As also quoted from the article
> Falcon
> RRP: $35,880.
>
> Engine: 4.0-litre, in-line six-cylinder.
>
> Power: 190kW at 5250rpm, 383Nm at 2500rpm.
>
> Transmission: Four-speed automatic with manual override.
>
> Claimed fuel consumption: 10.9 litres/100km.
>
> Holden
> RRP: $35,900.
>
> Engine: 3.6-litre V6.
>
> Power: 175kW at 6000rpm, 320Nm at 2800rpm.
>
> Transmission: Four-speed automatic.
>
> Claimed fuel consumption: 11.1 litres/100km.
>
> 380
> RRP: $35,990.
>
> Engine: 3.8-litre V6.
>
> Power: 175kW at 5250rpm, 343Nm at 4000rpm.
>
> Transmission: Five-speed automatic with manual override.
>
> Claimed fuel consumption: 10.8 litres/100km.
>
> Why does a vehicle that has a 5 speed auto with manual overide, and
> gets better fuel consumption from a similar power output, with better
> warranty and at least the same trim level,
> Need to be priced a couple of thousand cheaper?

Because it's not as good as the Falcon or the Commodore? Because the resale
on Magnas is traditionally awful? Take your pick.

Brett

> Seems to me the writer is just a little off base here.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Aussie)]

CAN YOU READ??? You are a f.... joke.Actually its the other way
round(well,,,,,nearlly).380 been out for nearly a month so far i've seen
ONLY TWO(2).That means Aussies are getting CLEVER.....

<free2speed@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133047637.347557.269450@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10698&vf=7&bg=22&pp=0
>

[Ext User(Aussie)]

OzOne wrote:

>
>I struggle to understand
>
>

You dont understand much do you????

[Ext User(Aussie)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:o40io19japi7uf3jr2r3no0bf3kc7srfcl@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:33:52 +1000, "Blackbird"
> <uglycars@mitsushiti.com> scribbled thusly:
>
> >
> >Holden will finally kill off magna/380 when the new commodore is released
in
> >2006.
> >
>
> Magna is dead, MMAL killed it off.
> Do you really think Holden can get around that crappy new engine?


Well.........Wait and ENJOY.





>
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Fred At Home)]

<free2speed@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133047637.347557.269450@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10698&vf=7&bg=22&pp=0
>

Your post header is contradicted by the article in the link you provide. In
short you are an idiot!

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:53:05 +1100, "Aussie" <fuckoff@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:

>OzOne wrote:
>
>>
>>I struggle to understand
>>
>>
>
>You dont understand much do you????
>
Awww C'mon, I picked you first time I heard from you.


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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:56:37 +1100, "Aussie" <fuckoff@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:

>
><OzOne> wrote in message news:o40io19japi7uf3jr2r3no0bf3kc7srfcl@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:33:52 +1000, "Blackbird"
>> <uglycars@mitsushiti.com> scribbled thusly:
>>
>> >
>> >Holden will finally kill off magna/380 when the new commodore is released
>in
>> >2006.
>> >
>>
>> Magna is dead, MMAL killed it off.
>> Do you really think Holden can get around that crappy new engine?
>
>
>Well.........Wait and ENJOY.

You mean I might have an enjoyable experience like I did with my SV6?

Nah, I'm not that silly. Twice burned is enough.


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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:53:32 GMT, "The Interceptor"
<thisemail@willnotwork.com> scribbled thusly:


>>
>> Why does a vehicle that has a 5 speed auto with manual overide, and
>> gets better fuel consumption from a similar power output, with better
>> warranty and at least the same trim level,
>> Need to be priced a couple of thousand cheaper?
>
>Because it's not as good as the Falcon or the Commodore? Because the resale
>on Magnas is traditionally awful? Take your pick.
>
>Brett

Maybe you should read the article again..only complaint was cost not
quality.
It's not a Magna.


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