Van Nguyen - someone had to start this.....

[JenniV]

Baka wa shinanakya naoranai... Die! Die! Die! :pirate:

[Lizard Drinkin]

:rolleyes: Cogently argued JenniV

[JenniV]

:rolleyes: Cogently argued JenniV
Did I miss something? Is this where people argue about it? Sou ka.... I thought you just post your opinions about his non-situation.... Gomen... :dD :p

[Candy2]

[QUOTE=Candy2]

But if we do that we have nothing to debate on and then take it out on our other halfs.
*runs off to yell at paddy*
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if you do not like a thing that is being said do what I do don't respond!

My response is you can debate without the personal attacks,thats all. My first comment this morning was suppose to be positive,I was replied to and l replied back,i did not attach a quote from anyone it was just a statement that was in my brain at the time.:cool:

[HoundsOfLove]

Isn't that kind of obvious?

There's are threads for discussing many different problems in society. This is one of them. So we're discussing it.

As has been discussed earlier in the thread, laws are a product of the societies they regulate, and change over time according to the changes to the culture and needs of the society. If we don't discuss different viewpoints with each other, attitudes will never change within our society, and thus laws will never be adjusted to accommodate this change. Just because an exchange of opinion doesn't bring immediate and palpable change doesn't mean it's p*ssing into the wind.

Don't mean so mean you grumpy old sod! Take some of your happy pills:PI

[Lizard Drinkin]

Don't mean so mean you grumpy old sod! Take some of your happy pills:PII think I heard a pot calling a kettle black, but I could be mistaken :D

[HoundsOfLove]

I think I heard a pot calling a kettle black, but I could be mistaken :D

I'm always happy, sweet and light;)

I think I need to take you back into the shouter for another beating!:pirate:

[Lizard Drinkin]

I'm always happy, sweet and light;)

I think I need to take you back into the shouter for another beating!:pirate:Just keep the http://phorums.com.au/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif coming :rolleyes:

[HoundsOfLove]

Just keep the http://phorums.com.au/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif coming :rolleyes:

Ok here it comes.........

[headrippa]

I'm still awaiting mine :)

[dvd_beetle]

Let me just say that I really respect singapore for their stance on drugs. If one of their residents goes overseas, like to Australia and takes drugs, and then goes back and is asked to do a drugs test then they put them in gaol for using drugs! Why can't we be like that?

[BiggyRat]

Let me just say that I really respect singapore for their stance on drugs. If one of their residents goes overseas, like to Australia and takes drugs, and then goes back and is asked to do a drugs test then they put them in gaol for using drugs! Why can't we be like that?Don't forget that Singapore has ALWAYS had very strict (and to our way of thinking - weird) laws. For example, are you aware that in Singapore in the 1970's you were jailed if your hair was longer than shoulder length and you were male. :eek: Littering and or spitting in the streets back then also attracted a $500 fine :eek: (that last one I agree with though)

[Tsargrad]

Nothing wrong with a big fine for spitting or littering.

But for the drugs, and the hanging. No sympathy here. Only a fool would dabble in drugs anywhere, especially in Asia.

[melissak]

A Bali judge has said (in a matter of words) that opposition to their laws does more harm that good for the person on trial because then they feel that they have to enforce their laws and defy people who object to this kind of punishment.

[dvd_beetle]

Don't forget that Singapore has ALWAYS had very strict (and to our way of thinking - weird) laws. For example, are you aware that in Singapore in the 1970's you were jailed if your hair was longer than shoulder length and you were male. :eek: Littering and or spitting in the streets back then also attracted a $500 fine :eek: (that last one I agree with though)Yes, well not all their laws are good, and their punishments aren't ideal... but then neither are ours, so we are in a sense "both in the same boat".

[ExecutoR]

Sorry guys i kinda left the conversation a few days ago BUT i spent 45mins writing up a nice response to the responses to my last post in here... :( then the power went down and i lost internet until today.

Not going to write it up again... im just going to say this;

I could NEVER EVER compare a driver who accidently killed someone while drunk to someone who knowingly distributes items that can do nothing other than personal harm.

Oh and i remember one thing. Lizard Drinking... yes i do know those people... and i have spent way too much time in that kind of crowd.

[Diabolical]

....I could NEVER EVER compare a driver who accidently killed someone while drunk to someone who knowingly distributes items that can do nothing other than personal harm.....

If you get behind the wheel drunk then you have to assume there is a chance that you will kill someone. There is nothing accidental about it. Your abilities are impaired yet you knowingly operate a potentially lethal weapon. The victims of this crime are completely innocent and have no control over their fate. Drug takers know the risks and elect to shoot up drugs regardless. They are well aware that their next hit might be their last. If they weren't using, then the dealers wouldn't have a business. Taking these facts in mind, the drink driver is worse than the drug trafficker in my opinion.

[Ozeagle]

The drunk driver isn't exactly in a state to be making logical, well-thought out decisions when he drives home though - otherwise he'd be ok to drive. ;)

It's getting a little off track anyway, though I think this thread has pretty much run its course on the original issue.

[Diabolical]

The drunk driver isn't exactly in a state to be making logical, well-thought out decisions when he drives home though - otherwise he'd be ok to drive. ;)

It's getting a little off track anyway, though I think this thread has pretty much run its course on the original issue.

I don't buy it. I know very well when I'm too drunk to drive and elect to get in a cab instead. Alcohol might alter your physical capabilities, ie. slurred speech, ataxia, hand/eye co-ordination and reflexes but it doesn't alter your mind/thought processes (besides slowing them down a tad).

The original issue goes back to whether we do or don't support the death penalty. The argument being that if you support it for drug traffickers on the basis of them knowing what they are doing could potentially kill someone then you should be supporting it for drink drivers who it can be argued the same for. It's evolved from the original topic, yes but not necessarily off it.

[ExecutoR]

Alcohol might alter your physical capabilities, ie. slurred speech, ataxia, hand/eye co-ordination and reflexes but it doesn't alter your mind/thought processes (besides slowing them down a tad).

You honestly believe being drunk does not alter your mind and thought processes?

I ask you to think about that again...