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Ext User(Dolf Boek)
22-12-2005, 09:24 AM
Perhaps the worse example of racialism is the psycho-sexual {ie. decidedly
heterosexual and anti-homosexual) connotation placed membership and
participation of the RSL - Returned Services League.

It is this false sense of 'our sperm is holy' we are better than you, that
is the heart and essence of the media observations as you have conveyed of
the Telegraph: "Paul Wilson, a local accountant who wants to start a
political movement he has called Sons of Anzacs, led the mob with a couple
of megaphone chants but said he was disgusted at the abuse of Lebanese
immigrants."

As you then suggest: "The 'Australia First Political Party' say that the
ugly beach scenes were part of Australians wanting to "reclaim the agenda
and say we have a culture". But, then again it may have just been a bunch
of aggressive young men spoiling for a fight -- out to test the proposed
anti-terrorist laws.

The youth of Australia - rebelling, and no curfew- set by the police or
government, is going to get away with waving this red flag to the bull.
Families and their values of which the Howard government has reduced over
the years are the only possible retaliation to this stand." [Tracey Zerk]

My 10 years service in the Police would qualify, but as is illustrated by
the continuing history of bullying and systemic abuses within the various
Services, I wouldn't bother as its simply untrue to equate the values of
fairness, compassion and tolerance with the organisation--the youth's who
rioted have a false sense of worth, their your children and they exhibit a
moral deficiency which is prerequisite to participation of the RSL.

Yesterday the claim was also made by 12 signaturies (including Brisbane's
Anglican Primate Archbishop Phillip Aspinall, former governor-general Sir
Ninian Stephen and former Victorian governor Sir James Gobbo) that "The
Sydney's racial violence is a symptom of deeply worrying divisions in our
society and undermines values of fairness, compassion and tolerance, which
have been hard won over more than 200 years" is in point of fact
deliberately a supercilious and false representation of history.

That there has to this day, despite the ability for homosexuals to Marry in
the United Kingdom, a continued denial of our human, religious and
Constitutional Rights by religious organisations, because of an exception
provided in section 75(2)(b) of the Equal Opportunity Act 1995 which allows
these Religious Institutions who are entirely lacking of credibity as
substance to an otherwise axiomatic belief as symbolic theology and
philosophy to discriminate against a person where it is necessary to avoid
injury to the religious sensitivities of the people of the religion.

- dolf

"Barry Minster" <vinmin@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:_Kjqf.78439$V7.55136@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>F Y I
> G'day My name is Tracey Zerk, my address is removed for privacy.
> Phone: removed for privacy I am ex service and have been involved with
> other
> veterans and ex service persons in trying to obtain a "Fair Go" from the
> Commonwealth Government of Australia. I feel my letter is quite pertinent
> and ask that you read it at least - what else you choose to do is at your
> discretion - I will also be sending copies of it to other parties who may
> be interested in a constituent of Australia's opinion on the state of
> Affairs in my homeland - I shall email my letter in its entirety to:-
> letters@dailytelegraph.com.au and I will attach a copy of the article from
> the police officer.
>
> This letter is written in response to the letter in the Daily Telegraph
> entitled I'm a police officer - and I am scared
>
> This open letter, from an anonymous police officer, was being distributed
> to
> locals in Cronulla yesterday
>
> December 14, 2005
>
>
>
> The police, Serving members, Ambulance Officers and Fire fighters and many
> others who provide a service to Australia are amongst the elite and most
> needed people in our DEMOCRACY.
>
>
>
> I am ex-NAVY - and because I had an accident on Navy time I am forced to
> endure my compensation and assistance to live being provided to me by
> constantly changing legislations, Laws, Bylaws, Amendments and Acts that
> are
> actioned by the Government of Australia. By the same token I am also in
> the
> very same position in regard to treatment as Veterans of WWII, Korea,
> Borneo, Malaya, Vietnam, Cambodia, Gulf war I & II as well as any other
> conflicts, peace time and peacekeeping - (NIAS being the latest)
> operations.
> The compensation promised and provided is more necessary now than ever yet
> the stringent guidelines and eligibility status is being reduced wherever
> possible.
>
>
>
> My letter is long but I honestly feel that it is completely relevant to
> the
> problems in Australia today.
>
>
>
>
> Tracey Zerk
>
>
>
>
>
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
>
>
> I have been reading the reports in your paper and watching the news on the
> dissention and abhorrent behaviours displayed throughout Sydney on the
> 11th
> of December and further. Most definitely un - Australian.
>
>
>
> The interesting thing here is that a report in Sundays Telegraph actually
> states that - " Paul Wilson, a local accountant who wants to start a
> political movement he has called Sons of Anzacs, led the mob with a couple
> of megaphone chants but said he was disgusted at the abuse of Lebanese
> immigrants.
>
> He said the protest was really just an extension of the sorts of things
> Pauline Hanson was warning about when she entered national life in 1996. "
>
> Are we a Nation of bullies - where it can be stated that it is okay to
> protest, bash a few heads in, because We want our Australia back; Some of
> Pauline Hansen's ANTICS of 1996 were hedging toward being a correction or
> prevention of the supposedly acceptable culture that is lead by the
> "Government of the Day" , now; or even because it is newsworthy to say
> that you are a son, daughter, product of our Heroic Anzacs - who carved
> the
> Australia of today and actually allowed us the 'FREEDOM' to voice our
> disapproval, To live in a secure and unthreatened place with the
> immigrants
> a welcome addition to our land.
>
> But, is it getting out of hand ? - maybe so! It is getting to the stage -
> I
> feel - that too many immigrants are becoming Australian Citizens. Do not
> get me wrong - I am not prejudiced Racially or any other way - apart from
> disagreeing with how our Country is being taken over. AND WHY - because
> once again the Australian Government has failed its people. In order to
> reach and maintain a suitable level in our economy families need to
> procreate and increase in size. In order for Australia to become
> economically sound each and every family should have at least 2 to 3
> children. This is not possible as it is too expensive to manage work, home
> and children's needs. Now, more than ever it is the 'politically correct
> speak' and actions that are what makes any decision acceptable - not
> whether
> it is right or wrong. Even this latest ideal of sole parents returning to
> work is going to fall flat. Benefits - healthcare and concessions will be
> reduced and then the parent is then required to pay for the additional
> childcare. Catch 22 !
>
> Australia is quite apathetic now, but over 30 years ago we did not need to
> be as vigilant of our rights, our Parliamentary representatives were
> genuinely concerned with the people of the Commonwealth of Australia. Our
> well-being, along with the necessities in life, Food, Water,
> Transportation,
> Free Education, the Economy as well as our Resources to name a few were
> taken care of very well by our elected representatives. Over the years
> though more and more of our rights have been taken away from us - yet it
> is
> our choice of Government at the ballot box.
>
> I say that, the past 30 to 40 years have seen a decline of our livelihood
> by stealth and the proposed better futures promised by all Candidates
> during the election campaigns. Many of these promises do not come to
> fruition - which has caused the voters of Australia to look to elections
> as
> a chore to get over and done with every 3 or so years. And, it is better
> to
> stick with the devil we know !
>
> Are you also aware that "The ANZACS" fought willingly for their Country -
> their was no turning around and saying "Well, what's in it for me. They
> also
> fought for a "Caring Government". In fact it was Prime Minister Billie
> Hughes who pledged full Government support to those diggers whose lives
> and
> careers were halted and negated because of their Service to their Country.
>
> "The "Great war" was a victory which came at great expense of many of our
> forebears, who had surged forward as young naïve men to represent their
> country, they carried the Anzac spirit proudly, made the best of their
> situation, tackled the job at hand and restored freedom in a far away
> land.
> Then minus many - they returned home - as shadows of their former
> selves.
>
> On Monday the 25th April, 2005 the Anglican bishop to the Australian
> Defence Force, Tom Frame, said the 90th anniversary of Gallipoli was an
> important time to reflect on how the event would be remembered into the
> future.
>
> He said it was vital that the contribution made by the Anzacs was an
> ongoing
> part of the collective history, and future, of Australia and New Zealand.
>
> "They gave their tomorrow for our today, this day, and so we should be
> grateful people," he said.
>
>
>
> Fortunately, the diggers of the "Great War" were supported fully by "A
> grateful Government".
>
>
>
> It is at this time that the Australian Government looked on these men's
> service as being worthy of their being assisted greatly:
>
> Billie Hughes' second government (1917-19) introduced and had passed the
> following legislation:
>
> The Australian Soldiers Repatriation Act 1917 established a Repatriation
> Commission to regulate assistance and benefits to returned soldiers and to
> the widows and children of soldiers killed.
>
> The War Service Homes Act 1918 provided mortgage and rent assistance to
> returned servicemen.
>
> Blocks of land were made available to these diggers whose lives and
> livelihoods had been halted and negated by their service.
>
>
>
> From the first Repatriation Minister, Senator Millen, in "The Soldier" in
> 1917. Asked about who will find the money to pay for repat, Millen said:
> "Does this matter a rap to you? Parliament has decided upon Repatriation
> and
> the Government will find the money for it. It should be enough at this
> juncture to know that "whatever money is needed for this scheme the
> Government will find it."
>
> I do believe that this is the reason that the Taxation system came into
> being. Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> The Gallipoli campaign ran from April to December 1915, during which time
> 8,587 members of the Australian forces were killed and 19,367 wounded.
>
>
>
>
> Australia has been the free nation that our heroes of the great war
> defended
> with their lives and yet they themselves have been forced to lose their
> freedom and right to a decent quality of life by the STEALTH of the
> various
> governments who are given the privilege of serving them and us . The very
> first government was actually established in Rome by men of stature within
> their society, whose very first thought and action was to the people and
> portrayed regularly by their address to the peoples -"HOW MAY I HELP YOU!"
>
>
>
> Please note I am giving my own interpretation - whilst I have the right to
> speak out; The majority of which is what makes the history of our Homeland
> Australia. The Howard Government is here to stay - especially with IR
> reform, Terrorist Laws and Full control of the Senate. Longer terms will
> possibly be the first attempt at removing our Democratic right.
>
>
>
>
> The Poll on Nine MSN on Tuesday 13th December is Do you think racism is
> the
> main cause of Sydney's violence? vote now
>
>
>
> The answer to this is "What is Racism" - THE BELIEF THAT RACES HAVE
> DISTINCTIVE CULTURAL CHARACTERISTICS DETERMINED BY HEREDITARY FACTORS AND
> THAT THIS ENDOWS SOME RACES WITH AN INTRINSIC SUPERIORITY - - -
> r ---
> ABUSIVE OR AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS MEMBERS OF ANOTHER RACE ON THE
> BASIS
> OF SUCH A BELIEF.
>
>
>
> The behaviours displayed in Sydney last weekend is most definitely not
> acceptable with in Australia and does have the potential to ruin our image
> and lifestyle if this continues, AS WELL AS THE freedoms of choice,
> thought
> and action.
>
> Do I think racism is the main cause of Sydney's violence?
>
>
>
> Definitely not - What we are seeing is the culmination of the people of
> the Commonwealth of Australia - regardless of their Country of Birth -
> retaliating to the many many changes, alterations, unkept promises, even
> some sneaky and underhanded amendments to Laws, Acts, Promises and
> Decisions. The FTA being accepted regardless of what the people thought;
> the
> Failing Medical and Hospital system; The introduction of the IR bill; The
> rushing through the Senate of the new Terror Laws along with Sedition and
> even this additional power to the police.
>
> Does that not equate to the loss of freedom of thought - I have an
> inquisitive mind - Who can I ask without the proposed threat of prison -
> To
> which I say "What do I have left to Lose"!
>
>
>
> What with the FTA, IR Bill, Workplace laws, Sole Parents and the disabled
> off assistance and into the workforce, A shortage of skilled workers
> necessitating an influx of cheap overseas labour which makes giving a
> local
> a job more costly. There is even a new Family Law amendment bill, with no
> promise at all that it would be more effective than the past one or the
> initial one set up in the late 1980's. The anti Terror
>
> And Welfare bills.
>
>
>
> There are many new Bills, far too many expectations - as in sending single
> parents back to work - further loss to their freedom as well as
> separation
> anxiety - and for what. To lose their government assistance and only earn
> enough to pay for basic living expenses as well as child care. Bills, etc
> have been rushed through parliament in the last few weeks in an effort
> supposedly to finalise them before the end of year break. Trouble is
> though - they are not fully understood; have the appearance of providing
> people with the necessary rights yet are not fully finalised. It does not
> take an artist to see the picture being formed here - especially given the
> past refusal and negligence to detail being provided by the Government to
> honour their pledges and promises. Is the government prepared to get
> straight in and make the necessary changes straight away after they have
> enjoyed their break?
>
>
>
> In the letter from the anonymous policeman he summed up exactly where our
> law providers are at now by saying - " The police out there have poor
> morale, equipment and training. We aren't united as a team - everyone has
> their own agenda and we are scared.
>
> We have the weak, ambiguous powers the Government says we have to have and
> a
> judicial system that just defies logic".
>
>
>
> With this possible neglect looming I ask the Government of the
> Commonwealth
> of Australia to look past their noses and out of the square, RACE RIOTS
> are
> not what is occurring around Australia at present. People are lashing out
> where they can and unfortunately it does appear that the Government cares
> more for immigrants that our National peoples. Note that the active word
> here is APPEAR, as ALL people of Australia are equal. Bring back Australia
> the free and non biased Country.
>
>
>
> How you may say - Well :-
>
>
>
> 1. For a free Nation that is truly democratic - A single faction of the
> government should not have total governance or total control of the
> Senate.
>
>
>
> 2. Why is it that the Prime Minister of this Country is permitted to get
> away with his underhanded and deceitful behaviour.
>
>
>
> 3. Who is the Prime Minister accountable to and why is he permitted such
> free reign of this Democratic Country - AUSTRALIA - "The Land of the
> Free".
>
>
>
> AND
>
>
>
>
>
> 4. According to what is taught in school - Queen Elizabeth II is at the
> head of Australia with the Governor General being her Representative.
>
>
>
> The most important role that Major General Jefferey's has is to
> encourage,
> articulate and represent those things that unite Australians as a nation.
>
>
>
>
>
> WHY ? Is it then that Australia is in dire need of correction.
>
> Can we blame the Queen for negligence or possibly the Governor General or
> even the Prime Minister and his government?"
>
>
>
> IS THERE NO ACCOUNTABILITY IN AUSTRALIA?
>
>
>
> No one is willing to answer my questions - are we in a generation of
> whingers - people who will complain, go about making changes by way of
> violence - enough to make our proud forebears ashamed of what we are doing
> to the legacy they left for us.
>
>
>
> Nearly every service in every State is battling to stay afloat, our
> Industries are being sold out, Families are deliberately small because of
> the expense and inability of maintaining larger ones. Therefore our
> economy
> will suffer without the high number of legal migrants we gladly and must
> allow into our homeland. The people are scared - What does the future
> hold
> for our children?
>
>
>
> Migrants bring great fortune to Australia by way of their skills and
> abilities and they are permitted to maintain their cultures within the
> Australian Culture. But to be honest, there are those that take the
> freedom
> and liberty provided to them just a bit too far. I feel that this minority
> group of peoples in many many parts of Australia are to blame for much
> misunderstanding.
>
>
>
> This rather poignant stand of adhering to a Country's laws was
> demonstrated
> recently by Singapore, with the maximum penalty for their country - the
> place that the crime took place - was administered to an Australian
> citizen!
> Despite constant pleas from Australia. Justice was seen and took place.
>
>
>
> It is therefore of utmost importance that both citizens and visitors
> should
> honour the Country they are in. This is more Consequential to those
> peoples
> now who are and who wish to become naturalised as Citizens of Australia.
>
>
>
> The "Australia First Political Party" say that the ugly beach scenes were
> part of Australians wanting to "reclaim the agenda and say we have a
> culture".
>
> But, then again it may have just been a bunch of aggressive young men
> spoiling for a fight - out to test the proposed anti-terrorist laws.
>
> The youth of Australia - rebelling, and no curfew- set by the police or
> government, is going to get away with waving this red flag to the bull.
> Families and their values of which the Howard government has reduced over
> the years are the only possible retaliation to this stand.
>
>
>
> Again, you cannot close the gate once the horse has bolted and this to me
> is
> how the Howard government will be best remembered in years to come. You
> cannot threaten, leak or insinuate one thing only to turn around and do
> your
> own thing - once general consensus is known. And then - give a media
> release
> that you were not aware of these feelings or better still do a completely
> public backflip . Expecting the people of Australia to both accept and
> agree
> with it.
>
>
>
> Laughable - YES but given the apathetic climate - it is very believable.
>
> There are numerous other groups attempting to rescue Australia whilst it
> is
> still a viable option.
>
>
>
> Last year we formed the ESVP ( www.esvp.org.asn.au - Ex Service, Service
> and Veterans Party ) in an effort to counter, expose, correct and reduce
> the further deterioration and stealth being applied to the entitlements,
> serving conditions, compensation and legislations of ALL of the people -
> not
> just the Military - who serve Australia! Unfortunately this party must
> come
> to an untimely end due to a lack of support and finance as to be of any
> real
> help to Australia NOW - when it is needed one must be financially secure
> and
> hold a significant membership base.
>
>
>
> Please tell me just how can anyone justify a government who actually puts
> limits on what is and is not deserved, and needed in the way of assistance
> and help. I am referring to a sad state of affairs whereby a Veteran who
> has laid his life on the line for his Country, been promised the necessary
> help should he ever need it, and then because of budgetary constraints be
> refused the correct assistance or worse, made to choose between a service
> pension for himself or a child support payment for his children, as he is
> now unable to work to sustain his family. He must choose because the
> Social
> Security act states that, "One cannot receive a Welfare payment from two
> government Departments at the same time."
>
> HOW CAN WE SAVE AUSTRALIA???
>
>
>
> One Nation, Australia First, the Great Australians etc. are just about
> defunct. We are seeing the emergence of 'The Save Australia Alliance'
> and
> www.peoplepower.org.au
>
>
>
> The recent & unpopular workplace reform that was introduced - is destined
> to line the pockets of the Governments; disinterest the young from doing
> their best in an effort of advancing in their workplace and actually
> penalises the worker who chooses to put his family first. Just how can we
> instil a high work ethic into our children when all they are shown is the
> way Legislation's , Acts and Reforms can be brought in at any given time
> to
> reduce a person's quality of life..
>
>
>
> I am aware that my letter is lengthy, but it needs commenting on - it is
> my
> voice - and it is free!
>
> In a nutshell the 2005 - 06 year will always be remembered for the
> beginning
> of Longer working hours for less pay, the Removal of some freedoms along
> with the threat of gaol if we protest, many lost Conditions, the Loss of
> time for family, No more penalties for bosses if they choose to sack
> employees for their own benefit, causing less job security
>
> In fact the removal of many of the rights that have been fought for, for
> so
> long. Redundancy will be a thing of the past, with lower pay, cuts to
> overtime and a chance to trade away leave.
>
> Just where does Australia's loyalties lie - especially with regard to
> overseas aid. We should look after our own Country first.
>
> Finally, these new powers that have been given to the police to tackle
> violence is just a bit too much to cope with in a Country such as ours -
> "Australia - the land of the Free"
>
> The lockdown enforced by the police with their NEW powers hurt more people
> than it helped. Businesses are reliant on trade leading up to Christmas
> and
> the people need more than ever to feel safe once again. Therefore it makes
> more sense to have business as usual with a high police presence being
> effected.
>
> There are many different views on this recent occurrence - and given that
> there is so much changing of legislations - which equates to letting the
> government off the hook for many past debts, mistakes, etc along with
> allowing more intervention from police, etc at their discretion which in
> turn can and will only equate to further loss of freedom, I am extremely
> worried about the Country I have been proud to call my home all my life.
>
>
>
> Australian Governments have been taking more and more liberties, looking
> after themselves, dictating how we are to lead our lives and getting away
> with an insurmountable amount of rhetoric for decades now. In reality it
> is
> us - the people who get to choose / elect the Political party we are
> convinced will serve us well over the next term in office. That is their
> job - TO SERVE THE PEOPLE - and that is why we must regain truth, justice
> and a Political Party who has the correct principles to lead Australia
> back
> to being the Safe and Secure place that our forefathers fought for.
>
>
> I pray that it is not too late and that the term of service by politicians
> is not extended, especially now that the current Government have full
> control of the senate.
>
> In God We Trust
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> Tracey Zerk
>
> Ex-Navy 1978 - 79
>
>
>
>
>

Ext User(Dolf Boek)
22-12-2005, 09:34 AM
Perhaps the worse example of racialism is the psycho-sexual {ie. decidedly
heterosexual and anti-homosexual) connotation placed [on] membership and
participation of the RSL - Returned Services League.

It is this false sense of 'our sperm is holy' we are better than you, that
is the heart and essence of the media observations as you have conveyed of
the Telegraph: "Paul Wilson, a local accountant who wants to start a
political movement he has called Sons of Anzacs, led the mob with a couple
of megaphone chants but said he was disgusted at the abuse of Lebanese
immigrants."

As you then suggest: "The 'Australia First Political Party' say that the
ugly beach scenes were part of Australians wanting to "reclaim the agenda
and say we have a culture". But, then again it may have just been a bunch
of aggressive young men spoiling for a fight -- out to test the proposed
anti-terrorist laws.

The youth of Australia - rebelling, and no curfew- set by the police or
government, is going to get away with waving this red flag to the bull.
Families and their values of which the Howard government has reduced over
the years are the only possible retaliation to this stand." [Tracey Zerk]

My 10 years service in the Police would qualify for [asscociate membership
of the RSL], but as is illustrated by the continuing history of bullying and
systemic abuses within the various Services, I wouldn't bother as its simply
untrue to equate the values of fairness, compassion and tolerance with the
organisation--the youth's who rioted have a false sense of worth, their your
children and they exhibit a moral deficiency which is prerequisite to
participation of the RSL.

Yesterday the claim was also made by 12 signaturies (including Brisbane's
Anglican Primate Archbishop Phillip Aspinall, former governor-general Sir
Ninian Stephen and former Victorian governor Sir James Gobbo) that "The
Sydney's racial violence is a symptom of deeply worrying divisions in our
society and undermines values of fairness, compassion and tolerance, which
have been hard won over more than 200 years" [but this] is in point of fact
deliberately a supercilious and false representation of history.

That there has to this day, despite the ability for homosexuals to Marry in
the United Kingdom, a continued denial of our human, religious and
Constitutional Rights by religious organisations, because of an exception
provided in section 75(2)(b) of the Equal Opportunity Act 1995 which allows
these Religious Institutions who are entirely lacking of credibity as
substance to an otherwise axiomatic belief as symbolic theology and
philosophy to discriminate against a person where it is necessary to avoid
injury to the religious sensitivities of the people of the religion.

- dolf

"Barry Minster" <vinmin@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:_Kjqf.78439$V7.55136@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>F Y I
> G'day My name is Tracey Zerk, my address is removed for privacy.
> Phone: removed for privacy I am ex service and have been involved with
> other
> veterans and ex service persons in trying to obtain a "Fair Go" from the
> Commonwealth Government of Australia. I feel my letter is quite pertinent
> and ask that you read it at least - what else you choose to do is at your
> discretion - I will also be sending copies of it to other parties who may
> be interested in a constituent of Australia's opinion on the state of
> Affairs in my homeland - I shall email my letter in its entirety to:-
> letters@dailytelegraph.com.au and I will attach a copy of the article from
> the police officer.
>
> This letter is written in response to the letter in the Daily Telegraph
> entitled I'm a police officer - and I am scared
>
> This open letter, from an anonymous police officer, was being distributed
> to
> locals in Cronulla yesterday
>
> December 14, 2005
>
>
>
> The police, Serving members, Ambulance Officers and Fire fighters and many
> others who provide a service to Australia are amongst the elite and most
> needed people in our DEMOCRACY.
>
>
>
> I am ex-NAVY - and because I had an accident on Navy time I am forced to
> endure my compensation and assistance to live being provided to me by
> constantly changing legislations, Laws, Bylaws, Amendments and Acts that
> are
> actioned by the Government of Australia. By the same token I am also in
> the
> very same position in regard to treatment as Veterans of WWII, Korea,
> Borneo, Malaya, Vietnam, Cambodia, Gulf war I & II as well as any other
> conflicts, peace time and peacekeeping - (NIAS being the latest)
> operations.
> The compensation promised and provided is more necessary now than ever yet
> the stringent guidelines and eligibility status is being reduced wherever
> possible.
>
>
>
> My letter is long but I honestly feel that it is completely relevant to
> the
> problems in Australia today.
>
>
>
>
> Tracey Zerk
>
>
>
>
>
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
>
>
> I have been reading the reports in your paper and watching the news on the
> dissention and abhorrent behaviours displayed throughout Sydney on the
> 11th
> of December and further. Most definitely un - Australian.
>
>
>
> The interesting thing here is that a report in Sundays Telegraph actually
> states that - " Paul Wilson, a local accountant who wants to start a
> political movement he has called Sons of Anzacs, led the mob with a couple
> of megaphone chants but said he was disgusted at the abuse of Lebanese
> immigrants.
>
> He said the protest was really just an extension of the sorts of things
> Pauline Hanson was warning about when she entered national life in 1996. "
>
> Are we a Nation of bullies - where it can be stated that it is okay to
> protest, bash a few heads in, because We want our Australia back; Some of
> Pauline Hansen's ANTICS of 1996 were hedging toward being a correction or
> prevention of the supposedly acceptable culture that is lead by the
> "Government of the Day" , now; or even because it is newsworthy to say
> that you are a son, daughter, product of our Heroic Anzacs - who carved
> the
> Australia of today and actually allowed us the 'FREEDOM' to voice our
> disapproval, To live in a secure and unthreatened place with the
> immigrants
> a welcome addition to our land.
>
> But, is it getting out of hand ? - maybe so! It is getting to the stage -
> I
> feel - that too many immigrants are becoming Australian Citizens. Do not
> get me wrong - I am not prejudiced Racially or any other way - apart from
> disagreeing with how our Country is being taken over. AND WHY - because
> once again the Australian Government has failed its people. In order to
> reach and maintain a suitable level in our economy families need to
> procreate and increase in size. In order for Australia to become
> economically sound each and every family should have at least 2 to 3
> children. This is not possible as it is too expensive to manage work, home
> and children's needs. Now, more than ever it is the 'politically correct
> speak' and actions that are what makes any decision acceptable - not
> whether
> it is right or wrong. Even this latest ideal of sole parents returning to
> work is going to fall flat. Benefits - healthcare and concessions will be
> reduced and then the parent is then required to pay for the additional
> childcare. Catch 22 !
>
> Australia is quite apathetic now, but over 30 years ago we did not need to
> be as vigilant of our rights, our Parliamentary representatives were
> genuinely concerned with the people of the Commonwealth of Australia. Our
> well-being, along with the necessities in life, Food, Water,
> Transportation,
> Free Education, the Economy as well as our Resources to name a few were
> taken care of very well by our elected representatives. Over the years
> though more and more of our rights have been taken away from us - yet it
> is
> our choice of Government at the ballot box.
>
> I say that, the past 30 to 40 years have seen a decline of our livelihood
> by stealth and the proposed better futures promised by all Candidates
> during the election campaigns. Many of these promises do not come to
> fruition - which has caused the voters of Australia to look to elections
> as
> a chore to get over and done with every 3 or so years. And, it is better
> to
> stick with the devil we know !
>
> Are you also aware that "The ANZACS" fought willingly for their Country -
> their was no turning around and saying "Well, what's in it for me. They
> also
> fought for a "Caring Government". In fact it was Prime Minister Billie
> Hughes who pledged full Government support to those diggers whose lives
> and
> careers were halted and negated because of their Service to their Country.
>
> "The "Great war" was a victory which came at great expense of many of our
> forebears, who had surged forward as young naïve men to represent their
> country, they carried the Anzac spirit proudly, made the best of their
> situation, tackled the job at hand and restored freedom in a far away
> land.
> Then minus many - they returned home - as shadows of their former
> selves.
>
> On Monday the 25th April, 2005 the Anglican bishop to the Australian
> Defence Force, Tom Frame, said the 90th anniversary of Gallipoli was an
> important time to reflect on how the event would be remembered into the
> future.
>
> He said it was vital that the contribution made by the Anzacs was an
> ongoing
> part of the collective history, and future, of Australia and New Zealand.
>
> "They gave their tomorrow for our today, this day, and so we should be
> grateful people," he said.
>
>
>
> Fortunately, the diggers of the "Great War" were supported fully by "A
> grateful Government".
>
>
>
> It is at this time that the Australian Government looked on these men's
> service as being worthy of their being assisted greatly:
>
> Billie Hughes' second government (1917-19) introduced and had passed the
> following legislation:
>
> The Australian Soldiers Repatriation Act 1917 established a Repatriation
> Commission to regulate assistance and benefits to returned soldiers and to
> the widows and children of soldiers killed.
>
> The War Service Homes Act 1918 provided mortgage and rent assistance to
> returned servicemen.
>
> Blocks of land were made available to these diggers whose lives and
> livelihoods had been halted and negated by their service.
>
>
>
> From the first Repatriation Minister, Senator Millen, in "The Soldier" in
> 1917. Asked about who will find the money to pay for repat, Millen said:
> "Does this matter a rap to you? Parliament has decided upon Repatriation
> and
> the Government will find the money for it. It should be enough at this
> juncture to know that "whatever money is needed for this scheme the
> Government will find it."
>
> I do believe that this is the reason that the Taxation system came into
> being. Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> The Gallipoli campaign ran from April to December 1915, during which time
> 8,587 members of the Australian forces were killed and 19,367 wounded.
>
>
>
>
> Australia has been the free nation that our heroes of the great war
> defended
> with their lives and yet they themselves have been forced to lose their
> freedom and right to a decent quality of life by the STEALTH of the
> various
> governments who are given the privilege of serving them and us . The very
> first government was actually established in Rome by men of stature within
> their society, whose very first thought and action was to the people and
> portrayed regularly by their address to the peoples -"HOW MAY I HELP YOU!"
>
>
>
> Please note I am giving my own interpretation - whilst I have the right to
> speak out; The majority of which is what makes the history of our Homeland
> Australia. The Howard Government is here to stay - especially with IR
> reform, Terrorist Laws and Full control of the Senate. Longer terms will
> possibly be the first attempt at removing our Democratic right.
>
>
>
>
> The Poll on Nine MSN on Tuesday 13th December is Do you think racism is
> the
> main cause of Sydney's violence? vote now
>
>
>
> The answer to this is "What is Racism" - THE BELIEF THAT RACES HAVE
> DISTINCTIVE CULTURAL CHARACTERISTICS DETERMINED BY HEREDITARY FACTORS AND
> THAT THIS ENDOWS SOME RACES WITH AN INTRINSIC SUPERIORITY - - - r ---
> ABUSIVE OR AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS MEMBERS OF ANOTHER RACE ON THE
> BASIS
> OF SUCH A BELIEF.
>
>
>
> The behaviours displayed in Sydney last weekend is most definitely not
> acceptable with in Australia and does have the potential to ruin our image
> and lifestyle if this continues, AS WELL AS THE freedoms of choice,
> thought
> and action.
>
> Do I think racism is the main cause of Sydney's violence?
>
>
>
> Definitely not - What we are seeing is the culmination of the people of
> the Commonwealth of Australia - regardless of their Country of Birth -
> retaliating to the many many changes, alterations, unkept promises, even
> some sneaky and underhanded amendments to Laws, Acts, Promises and
> Decisions. The FTA being accepted regardless of what the people thought;
> the
> Failing Medical and Hospital system; The introduction of the IR bill; The
> rushing through the Senate of the new Terror Laws along with Sedition and
> even this additional power to the police.
>
> Does that not equate to the loss of freedom of thought - I have an
> inquisitive mind - Who can I ask without the proposed threat of prison -
> To
> which I say "What do I have left to Lose"!
>
>
>
> What with the FTA, IR Bill, Workplace laws, Sole Parents and the disabled
> off assistance and into the workforce, A shortage of skilled workers
> necessitating an influx of cheap overseas labour which makes giving a
> local
> a job more costly. There is even a new Family Law amendment bill, with no
> promise at all that it would be more effective than the past one or the
> initial one set up in the late 1980's. The anti Terror
>
> And Welfare bills.
>
>
>
> There are many new Bills, far too many expectations - as in sending single
> parents back to work - further loss to their freedom as well as
> separation
> anxiety - and for what. To lose their government assistance and only earn
> enough to pay for basic living expenses as well as child care. Bills, etc
> have been rushed through parliament in the last few weeks in an effort
> supposedly to finalise them before the end of year break. Trouble is
> though - they are not fully understood; have the appearance of providing
> people with the necessary rights yet are not fully finalised. It does not
> take an artist to see the picture being formed here - especially given the
> past refusal and negligence to detail being provided by the Government to
> honour their pledges and promises. Is the government prepared to get
> straight in and make the necessary changes straight away after they have
> enjoyed their break?
>
>
>
> In the letter from the anonymous policeman he summed up exactly where our
> law providers are at now by saying - " The police out there have poor
> morale, equipment and training. We aren't united as a team - everyone has
> their own agenda and we are scared.
>
> We have the weak, ambiguous powers the Government says we have to have and
> a
> judicial system that just defies logic".
>
>
>
> With this possible neglect looming I ask the Government of the
> Commonwealth
> of Australia to look past their noses and out of the square, RACE RIOTS
> are
> not what is occurring around Australia at present. People are lashing out
> where they can and unfortunately it does appear that the Government cares
> more for immigrants that our National peoples. Note that the active word
> here is APPEAR, as ALL people of Australia are equal. Bring back Australia
> the free and non biased Country.
>
>
>
> How you may say - Well :-
>
>
>
> 1. For a free Nation that is truly democratic - A single faction of the
> government should not have total governance or total control of the
> Senate.
>
>
>
> 2. Why is it that the Prime Minister of this Country is permitted to get
> away with his underhanded and deceitful behaviour.
>
>
>
> 3. Who is the Prime Minister accountable to and why is he permitted such
> free reign of this Democratic Country - AUSTRALIA - "The Land of the
> Free".
>
>
>
> AND
>
>
>
>
>
> 4. According to what is taught in school - Queen Elizabeth II is at the
> head of Australia with the Governor General being her Representative.
>
>
>
> The most important role that Major General Jefferey's has is to
> encourage,
> articulate and represent those things that unite Australians as a nation.
>
>
>
>
>
> WHY ? Is it then that Australia is in dire need of correction.
>
> Can we blame the Queen for negligence or possibly the Governor General or
> even the Prime Minister and his government?"
>
>
>
> IS THERE NO ACCOUNTABILITY IN AUSTRALIA?
>
>
>
> No one is willing to answer my questions - are we in a generation of
> whingers - people who will complain, go about making changes by way of
> violence - enough to make our proud forebears ashamed of what we are doing
> to the legacy they left for us.
>
>
>
> Nearly every service in every State is battling to stay afloat, our
> Industries are being sold out, Families are deliberately small because of
> the expense and inability of maintaining larger ones. Therefore our
> economy
> will suffer without the high number of legal migrants we gladly and must
> allow into our homeland. The people are scared - What does the future
> hold
> for our children?
>
>
>
> Migrants bring great fortune to Australia by way of their skills and
> abilities and they are permitted to maintain their cultures within the
> Australian Culture. But to be honest, there are those that take the
> freedom
> and liberty provided to them just a bit too far. I feel that this minority
> group of peoples in many many parts of Australia are to blame for much
> misunderstanding.
>
>
>
> This rather poignant stand of adhering to a Country's laws was
> demonstrated
> recently by Singapore, with the maximum penalty for their country - the
> place that the crime took place - was administered to an Australian
> citizen!
> Despite constant pleas from Australia. Justice was seen and took place.
>
>
>
> It is therefore of utmost importance that both citizens and visitors
> should
> honour the Country they are in. This is more Consequential to those
> peoples
> now who are and who wish to become naturalised as Citizens of Australia.
>
>
>
> The "Australia First Political Party" say that the ugly beach scenes were
> part of Australians wanting to "reclaim the agenda and say we have a
> culture".
>
> But, then again it may have just been a bunch of aggressive young men
> spoiling for a fight - out to test the proposed anti-terrorist laws.
>
> The youth of Australia - rebelling, and no curfew- set by the police or
> government, is going to get away with waving this red flag to the bull.
> Families and their values of which the Howard government has reduced over
> the years are the only possible retaliation to this stand.
>
>
>
> Again, you cannot close the gate once the horse has bolted and this to me
> is
> how the Howard government will be best remembered in years to come. You
> cannot threaten, leak or insinuate one thing only to turn around and do
> your
> own thing - once general consensus is known. And then - give a media
> release
> that you were not aware of these feelings or better still do a completely
> public backflip . Expecting the people of Australia to both accept and
> agree
> with it.
>
>
>
> Laughable - YES but given the apathetic climate - it is very believable.
>
> There are numerous other groups attempting to rescue Australia whilst it
> is
> still a viable option.
>
>
>
> Last year we formed the ESVP ( www.esvp.org.asn.au - Ex Service, Service
> and Veterans Party ) in an effort to counter, expose, correct and reduce
> the further deterioration and stealth being applied to the entitlements,
> serving conditions, compensation and legislations of ALL of the people -
> not
> just the Military - who serve Australia! Unfortunately this party must
> come
> to an untimely end due to a lack of support and finance as to be of any
> real
> help to Australia NOW - when it is needed one must be financially secure
> and
> hold a significant membership base.
>
>
>
> Please tell me just how can anyone justify a government who actually puts
> limits on what is and is not deserved, and needed in the way of assistance
> and help. I am referring to a sad state of affairs whereby a Veteran who
> has laid his life on the line for his Country, been promised the necessary
> help should he ever need it, and then because of budgetary constraints be
> refused the correct assistance or worse, made to choose between a service
> pension for himself or a child support payment for his children, as he is
> now unable to work to sustain his family. He must choose because the
> Social
> Security act states that, "One cannot receive a Welfare payment from two
> government Departments at the same time."
>
> HOW CAN WE SAVE AUSTRALIA???
>
>
>
> One Nation, Australia First, the Great Australians etc. are just about
> defunct. We are seeing the emergence of 'The Save Australia Alliance'
> and
> www.peoplepower.org.au
>
>
>
> The recent & unpopular workplace reform that was introduced - is destined
> to line the pockets of the Governments; disinterest the young from doing
> their best in an effort of advancing in their workplace and actually
> penalises the worker who chooses to put his family first. Just how can we
> instil a high work ethic into our children when all they are shown is the
> way Legislation's , Acts and Reforms can be brought in at any given time
> to
> reduce a person's quality of life..
>
>
>
> I am aware that my letter is lengthy, but it needs commenting on - it is
> my
> voice - and it is free!
>
> In a nutshell the 2005 - 06 year will always be remembered for the
> beginning
> of Longer working hours for less pay, the Removal of some freedoms along
> with the threat of gaol if we protest, many lost Conditions, the Loss of
> time for family, No more penalties for bosses if they choose to sack
> employees for their own benefit, causing less job security
>
> In fact the removal of many of the rights that have been fought for, for
> so
> long. Redundancy will be a thing of the past, with lower pay, cuts to
> overtime and a chance to trade away leave.
>
> Just where does Australia's loyalties lie - especially with regard to
> overseas aid. We should look after our own Country first.
>
> Finally, these new powers that have been given to the police to tackle
> violence is just a bit too much to cope with in a Country such as ours -
> "Australia - the land of the Free"
>
> The lockdown enforced by the police with their NEW powers hurt more people
> than it helped. Businesses are reliant on trade leading up to Christmas
> and
> the people need more than ever to feel safe once again. Therefore it makes
> more sense to have business as usual with a high police presence being
> effected.
>
> There are many different views on this recent occurrence - and given that
> there is so much changing of legislations - which equates to letting the
> government off the hook for many past debts, mistakes, etc along with
> allowing more intervention from police, etc at their discretion which in
> turn can and will only equate to further loss of freedom, I am extremely
> worried about the Country I have been proud to call my home all my life.
>
>
>
> Australian Governments have been taking more and more liberties, looking
> after themselves, dictating how we are to lead our lives and getting away
> with an insurmountable amount of rhetoric for decades now. In reality it
> is
> us - the people who get to choose / elect the Political party we are
> convinced will serve us well over the next term in office. That is their
> job - TO SERVE THE PEOPLE - and that is why we must regain truth, justice
> and a Political Party who has the correct principles to lead Australia
> back
> to being the Safe and Secure place that our forefathers fought for.
>
>
> I pray that it is not too late and that the term of service by politicians
> is not extended, especially now that the current Government have full
> control of the senate.
>
> In God We Trust
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> Tracey Zerk
>
> Ex-Navy 1978 - 79
>
>
>
>
>

Ext User(ferdie)
22-12-2005, 02:14 PM
"Dolf Boek" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yesterday the claim was also made by 12 signaturies (including Brisbane's
> Anglican Primate Archbishop Phillip Aspinall

Did it have red or black fur ?

Ext User(Dolf Boek)
23-12-2005, 09:24 AM
"But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft-MALAKOS garments?
Indeed, those who wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. But what did you
go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet. For
this is he of whom it is written: 'Behold, I send My messenger before Your
face, Who will prepare Your way before You.'

Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one
greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven
is greater than he.

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven
suffers violence, and the violent take it by force." [Matthew 11:7-12]

- dolf

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>
> "Dolf Boek" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43a9d553$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>>
>> Yesterday the claim was also made by 12 signaturies (including Brisbane's
>> Anglican Primate Archbishop Phillip Aspinall
>
> Did it have red or black fur ?
>

QOLON NOTE:
Until the destruction of the Judeo-Christian Temple within Jerusalem by the
Romans in 70 CE it was serviced by "priests before God {ie. righteous before
God, walking blameless in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord
[v6]} in the order of his division, according to the custom of the
priesthood, it fell to his lot to burn incense when he went into the temple
of the Lord." [Luke 1:8]

In other words both the Temple and the Apostle Paul by virtue of his claim
to Roman citizenship and appeal to the Augustus Ceasar {ie. "reserved [his
defence] for the decision of Augustus" [Acts 25:21] and "he himself had
appealed to Augustus" [Acts 25:25]} subscribed to the following continuum as
7th day Sabbath based chronology [24 x 7 x 13] cycle {ie. 294 x 364 = 293 x
365.2425 days} associated to a Wednesday 20 March equinox/new moon on 1
Nisan/21 March cycle as the basis to the 'commandments and ordinances' and a
common shared worldview as Kosmological regime of governance.

The issue of the time was autonomous, sovereign, common law and legislative
right epitomised in the personage of Jesus of Nazareth, being sub-ordinated
to hymeneal mysticism of Roman Imperialism as religious/political state in
denial of the 'Judeo-Christian tradition'. [John 5:46; Acts 15:14-23;
24:5-6; 26:9-11; 28:22-23]

#A = 22/7 as 3W1D with an implied Wednesday 20 March equinox/new moon as
'oth 294 year [24 x 7 x 13] cycle {ie. 294 x 364 = 293 x 365.2425 days}

#[X] = + 9(9²+1)/2 as #369 with 7 x #41 centre (#41 = 13 to 17 September
2001)

#A = Solar eclipse Monday 25 December 2000 (122J3W1D) = 20 x 6J + 2J + 3W1D
(22 years)

After the reprise of these dates, it is effectively impossible for many
individuals to claim to being Christian, without being dependent on the
Graces of others.

Ext User(ferdie)
23-12-2005, 09:44 AM
"Dolf Boek" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft-MALAKOS garments?

A man ?

I thought you were talking about a primate !

Ext User(Dolf Boek)
23-12-2005, 11:13 AM
I notice that in today's media reports that one of the sons to Australia's
celebrated former defence force chief Peter Cosgrove will be discharged from
the the army after going AWOL-Absent Without Leave from his barracks and
being thrown into military jail. [ref: The Australian, 'Cosgrove's AWOL son
discharged from army', 23 December, 2005, page 1]

It seems consistent with my earlier comment: "It is this false sense of 'our
sperm is holy' we are better than you, that is the heart and essence of the
media observations as you have conveyed of the Telegraph: "Paul Wilson, a
local accountant who wants to start a political movement he has called Sons
of Anzacs, led the mob with a couple of megaphone chants but said he was
disgusted at the abuse of Lebanese immigrants." [Dolf Boek]

Also, if the Prime Minster amended the Marriage Act in August 2004 because
he erroneously thinks on the basis of an otherwise axiomatic claim to
religious belief, that marriage is for men and women, then quite clearly
Tracey Zerk as a former member of the Navy, is telling fabrications as the
basis for retatiation {ie. to return like for like, especially evil for evil
or requital (especially for an injury), take reprisals} for her own
political and personal ends:

"Families and their values of which the Howard government has reduced over
the years are the only possible retaliation to this stand." [Tracey Zerk]

- dolf

"ferdie" <ferdie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dolf Boek" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43ab261d_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> "But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft-MALAKOS garments?
>
> A man ?
>
> I thought you were talking about a primate !
>

Perhaps the worse example of racialism is the psycho-sexual {ie. decidedly
> heterosexual and anti-homosexual) connotation placed [on] membership and
> participation of the RSL - Returned Services League.
>
> It is this false sense of 'our sperm is holy' we are better than you, that
> is the heart and essence of the media observations as you have conveyed of
> the Telegraph: "Paul Wilson, a local accountant who wants to start a
> political movement he has called Sons of Anzacs, led the mob with a couple
> of megaphone chants but said he was disgusted at the abuse of Lebanese
> immigrants."
>
> As you then suggest: "The 'Australia First Political Party' say that the
> ugly beach scenes were part of Australians wanting to "reclaim the agenda
> and say we have a culture". But, then again it may have just been a bunch
> of aggressive young men spoiling for a fight -- out to test the proposed
> anti-terrorist laws.
>
> The youth of Australia - rebelling, and no curfew- set by the police or
> government, is going to get away with waving this red flag to the bull.
> Families and their values of which the Howard government has reduced over
> the years are the only possible retaliation to this stand." [Tracey Zerk]
>
> My 10 years service in the Police would qualify for [asscociate membership
> of the RSL], but as is illustrated by the continuing history of bullying
> and systemic abuses within the various Services, I wouldn't bother as its
> simply untrue to equate the values of fairness, compassion and tolerance
> with the organisation--the youth's who rioted have a false sense of worth,
> their your children and they exhibit a moral deficiency which is
> prerequisite to participation of the RSL.
>
> Yesterday the claim was also made by 12 signaturies (including Brisbane's
> Anglican Primate Archbishop Phillip Aspinall, former governor-general Sir
> Ninian Stephen and former Victorian governor Sir James Gobbo) that "The
> Sydney's racial violence is a symptom of deeply worrying divisions in our
> society and undermines values of fairness, compassion and tolerance, which
> have been hard won over more than 200 years" [but this] is in point of
> fact
> deliberately a supercilious and false representation of history.
>
> That there has to this day, despite the ability for homosexuals to Marry
> in
> the United Kingdom, a continued denial of our human, religious and
> Constitutional Rights by religious organisations, because of an exception
> provided in section 75(2)(b) of the Equal Opportunity Act 1995 (Victoria)
> which
> allows these Religious Institutions who are entirely lacking of credibity
> as
> substance to an otherwise axiomatic belief as symbolic theology and
> philosophy to discriminate against a person where it is necessary to avoid
> injury to the religious sensitivities of the people of the religion.
>
> - dolf