Car of the year 2006

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"jackbadger" <castle56@keepitcar.gmail.com> wrote in message

> announcement date?

Who cares :)

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Noddy.

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "jackbadger" <castle56@keepitcar.gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> announcement date?
>
> Who cares :)

Marketing execs everywhere.

Fraser

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:46:14 +1100, "Dan---"
<trollsrstupid@noemail.com> wrote:

>"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On 10 Jan 2006 19:22:17 -0800, free2speed@hotmail.com wrote:
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>>>380 will win and it does deserve it
>>
>>
>> Nah, and it won't be around for much longer neither, December sales of
>> 947, but lets throw the 218 Magnas in to bolster the image. Still
>> under half the number of sales they require to keep to boat floating.
>>
>
>Shit thats pretty bad I bet a lot of people looked at the new 380 thought
>thats not a large car because the exterior dimentions are closer to a
>midsize car than a falcodore.

They just don't have that big car look IMO so it will go the way of
the Avalon but unlike Toyota, MrBishi they don't have the money.

It will be a shame if it goes pear shaped.

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:31:06 +1000, "Katharine & Paul"
<NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com.au> wrote:

>That exactly what I thought. THe Magna' sinterior was really too small for
>its class. Tej 380 doesnt look like a bigger car - so it will struggle to
>take sales off Falcodore. People looks for mid-size may just show their lack
>of car knowledge by continuing to buy 4 cyl Camrys
>
>The 380 needs to win, otherwise Mitsubishi are goooooooooooone

I don't even think winning COTY would save it...

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:12:24 +0800, "Fraser Johnston"
<fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote:

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>"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>> "jackbadger" <castle56@keepitcar.gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> announcement date?
>>
>> Who cares :)
>
>Marketing execs everywhere.

Spot on Fraser.

Noddy doesn't seem to think marketing exists for some odd reason :)

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Noddy doesn't seem to think marketing exists for some odd reason :)

Oh no, I think it exists, and can be important. The point is how much
influence it has.

Take the 380 for example. Awarded Australia's best car late last year, yet
it isn't selling. The BA is another example of hype gone mad. Car of the
year, and a *much* better car to look at than the 380 at least, yet it's
only just holding it's own against the much older Commodore.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(jackbadger)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> Jan 16, 2006 wrote

>"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in >message
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>> Noddy doesn't seem to think marketing exists >for some odd reason :)
>
>Oh no, I think it exists, and can be important. >The point is how much
>influence it has.
>
>Take the 380 for example. Awarded Australia's >best car late last year,
yet
>
>it isn't selling. The BA is another example of >hype gone mad. Car of the

>year, and a *much* better car to look at than the >380 at least, yet it's

>only just holding it's own against the much older >Commodore.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Noddy.
>

The Holden marketers are doing a far better job tiz why.
They're not pouring millions of dollars into its' racing programs because
there's space in the trophy cabinet.

[Ext User(Katharine & Paul)]

Car of the year has in the past helped sales along. The VN overtook the EA
in sales only after the VN won (even though it probably only won because the
EA was worse, both cars were crap).

A win will help 380 sales, but maybe not enough to save Mitsubishi



"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:31:06 +1000, "Katharine & Paul"
> <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com.au> wrote:
>
>>That exactly what I thought. THe Magna' sinterior was really too small for
>>its class. Tej 380 doesnt look like a bigger car - so it will struggle to
>>take sales off Falcodore. People looks for mid-size may just show their
>>lack
>>of car knowledge by continuing to buy 4 cyl Camrys
>>
>>The 380 needs to win, otherwise Mitsubishi are goooooooooooone
>
> I don't even think winning COTY would save it...

[Ext User(Kieron)]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:49:40 +1000, "Katharine & Paul"
<NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com.au> wrote:

>Car of the year has in the past helped sales along. The VN overtook the EA
>in sales only after the VN won (even though it probably only won because the
>EA was worse, both cars were crap).
>
>A win will help 380 sales, but maybe not enough to save Mitsubishi

Oh, yep I agree with that entirely, your last sentence I fear is
highly likely.

[Ext User(TheTaipan)]

Ford's actually sitting pretty well in terms of locally built vehicles
registered in the year 2005...

FORD

Falcon - 53,080
Fairlane/LTD - 1,980
Ute - 18,384
Territory -23,454

TOTAL - 96,898

HOLDEN

Commodore - 66,794
Statesman/Caprice - 3,573
Ute/Crewman - 20,202
Adventra - 3,153
Monaro - 2,834

TOTAL - 96,556

TOYOTA

Camry - 36,492
Avalon - 2,949

TOTAL - 39,441

MITSUBISHI

380 - 3,548
Magna/Verada - 12,469

TOTAL - 16,017

If you want to include exports, the figures change somewhat... these are
vehicles manufactured - rather than vehicles sold. According to the source
Ford, Holden and Mitsubishi have a sizeable number of built, but not sold
vehicles...

HOLDEN - 152,960 (165,552) : Local - 93,428 (110,624) Export - 59,532
(54,928)

TOYOTA - 109,276 (109,952) : Local - 39,716 (44,583) Export - 69,560
(65,369)

FORD - 107,447 (114,716) : Local - 97,414 (106,466) Export - 10,033 (8,250)

MITSUBISHI - 19,206 (22,153) : Local - 17,134 (17,632) Export - 2,072
(4,521)


"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43cb29d9.12916625@203.50.2.233...
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>> Noddy doesn't seem to think marketing exists for some odd reason :)
>
> Oh no, I think it exists, and can be important. The point is how much
> influence it has.
>
> Take the 380 for example. Awarded Australia's best car late last year, yet
> it isn't selling. The BA is another example of hype gone mad. Car of the
> year, and a *much* better car to look at than the 380 at least, yet it's
> only just holding it's own against the much older Commodore.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>