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Ext User(Spear and Magic Helmet)
22-03-2006, 12:23 PM
I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
board to get any sort of real debate).

Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
differing theories on where oil did come from).

The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."

Your thoughts all?

Ext User(feral)
22-03-2006, 12:33 PM
Spear and Magic Helmet wrote:

> I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?
>
Here's a crude story for ya Fudd. ;-)

> http://whyfiles.org/100oil/2.html

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Ext User(Spear and Magic Helmet)
22-03-2006, 01:03 PM
feral wrote:

> Here's a crude story for ya Fudd. ;-)
>
> > http://whyfiles.org/100oil/2.html

Thanks for the link. Interesting reading. But some have argued that
there is simply too much oil for that to be the sole source.

Ext User(thecommentator)
22-03-2006, 01:13 PM
Spear and Magic Helmet wrote:
> I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?

How many Christians make up snakeoil?
According to them, earth etc is only a few thousand years old and
apparently the 'saurs are more or less a conspiracy theory/figment of
imagination.
yeah and Heysoos (Jesus in Spanish) really did convert my bottle of
water to a flagon of '03 merlot.

Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)
22-03-2006, 01:23 PM
On 21 Mar 2006 17:15:05 -0800, Spear and Magic Helmet wrote:

> I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?

OK, how about.
Helium can't be contained in 'lifeforms'.
It's inert, and patently useless for anything much other than being
inert and light.

But it's 'in' crude oil.

So lifeforms couldn't have caused oil.

So what we were taught at school AFTER this fact became common
knowledge in the scientific community, was patent bullshit.

So there.




--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

Ext User(Trevor Wilson)
22-03-2006, 01:23 PM
"Spear and Magic Helmet" <speed_saves@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1142990105.916430.289870@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?

**You've over-simplified it. Oil comes from ALL life forms after being
subject to the appropriate conditions for millions of years. That includes
plant material. Dinosaurs would represent an insignificant fraction of the
total. Anyway, I'll bite: If oil did not originate from organic matter,
where did it come from?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Ext User(Spear and Magic Helmet)
22-03-2006, 01:33 PM
Trevor Wilson wrote:

> **You've over-simplified it. Oil comes from ALL life forms after being
> subject to the appropriate conditions for millions of years. That includes
> plant material. Dinosaurs would represent an insignificant fraction of the
> total.

Well that at least (probably) answers the quantity question.

> Anyway, I'll bite: If oil did not originate from organic matter,
> where did it come from?

I don't know. I get mine from the produce shop. I was just raising the
question.

Ext User(Ron)
22-03-2006, 01:43 PM
"Spear and Magic Helmet" <speed_saves@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:1142990105.916430.289870@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:

> I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?
>

Well, as we know, coal is formed from compacted vegetation and took a long
time to devlope into coal.

I think rotting sea creatures mixed with sea vegetation, etc, together with
climate upheavals, ie. jurasic period, may have formed oil. Remember there
were some large sea creatures back then, plus larger masses of water.

A lot of areas that are now land were once under water. The fact that a
lot of the arabic desert areas are rich in oil, what was there during the
jurasic period??

Ron
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Ext User(DalienX)
22-03-2006, 03:53 PM
Spear and Magic Helmet wrote:

> I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer wildly
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?

might be a question for aus.science

VYBerlinaV8
22-03-2006, 04:08 PM
I would think most forms of life, be the plant or animal could contribute to some kind of oil. Crude oil is made up of a fair few different carbon compounds.

They all burn good in my V8!

Ext User(tipsy@beerlover.com)
22-03-2006, 04:53 PM
On 21 Mar 2006 17:15:05 -0800, "Spear and Magic Helmet" <speed_saves@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."

Oil comes mostly from plants.

Ext User(tipsy@beerlover.com)
22-03-2006, 04:53 PM
On 22 Mar 2006 02:11:20 GMT, Ron <X101@newsguy.com> wrote:

> A lot of areas that are now land were once under water. The fact that a
> lot of the arabic desert areas are rich in oil, what was there during the
> jurasic period??

Bulldog supporters?

Ext User(Scotty)
22-03-2006, 05:53 PM
"Spear and Magic Helmet" <speed_saves@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1142990105.916430.289870@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?
>
Life forms come in many varieties, bacteria I suppose, plant life turns into
coat which may turn into oil, Im only guessing here but its doesnt have to
be mammel life forms to become oil, check out the likes of peatmoss areas
etc.

Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)
22-03-2006, 06:33 PM
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:10:20 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

> Anyway, I'll bite: If oil did not originate from organic matter,
> where did it come from?

Make that where *does* it come from?


--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

Ext User(Knobdoodle)
22-03-2006, 08:33 PM
"Spear and Magic Helmet" <speed_saves@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1142990105.916430.289870@z34g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?
>
I think need to have a piss and then later on I might cook some lasagne.
--
Knob

Ext User(JD)
22-03-2006, 08:43 PM
Spear and Magic Helmet wrote:

> I borrowed this question from a message board and thought I'd ask it
> here (as there are far too many retards and trolls on said message
> board to get any sort of real debate).
>
> Basically, some say it wasn't the dinosaurs (and offer *wildly*
> differing theories on where oil did come from).
>
> The argument that oil did come from dead dinos is this: "Carbon can
> only be fixed into liquids and solids by lifeforms."
>
> Your thoughts all?

As others have pointed out, oil can be formed from any organic material.
Whether plants or animals (or mixed) can be determined by trace compounds
in the oil. This shows, for example, that most Australian crude oils are
derived from plants, and this probably applies to a lot of the world oils,
although I am only familiar with Australian ones mostly.

There are theories that suggest that at least part of the hydrocarbons found
come from inorganic materials deep in the earth, but attempts to prove this
have been unsuccessful, at least so far. It is an important point, as the
source of the oil is used in predicting occurrences of oil/gas, and this
would lead to looking in different geological situations.

Since the mechanisms that concentrate and trap oil and gas apply to any
liquid or gas that does not dissolve freely in water, any other fluid that
is in the earth will end up in the same traps. This is why helium (from
radioactive decay) is found in small percentages in natural gas in a few
places in the world, and why much more often carbon dioxide is found in
much higher percentages in oil or gas in a lot more places. One "field" in
Victoria produced almost 100% carbon dioxide and was used commercially for
a number of years. (Incidentally showing that carbon dioxide sequestration
underground is technically feasible - commercially may be another story)

JD

Ext User(John Hudson)
22-03-2006, 10:03 PM
Your thoughts all?

> I think need to have a piss and then later on I might cook some lasagne.
> --
> Knob
>

All Knob thinks about is his stomach and what hangs under it :-)
huddo

Ext User(SmakDaddy)
22-03-2006, 10:13 PM
> **You've over-simplified it.

its like in that episode of futurama where they say "It all started with
Gerald Ford's famous invention - the automocar. Which was powered by a tank
of burning fossils."

Ext User(Smee R11S)
23-03-2006, 03:43 PM
tipsy@beerlover.com wrote:
> On 22 Mar 2006 02:11:20 GMT, Ron <X101@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> A lot of areas that are now land were once under water. The fact that a
>> lot of the arabic desert areas are rich in oil, what was there during the
>> jurasic period??
>
> Bulldog supporters?
>
Western bulldogs?
Only bogans support em.

Ext User(tipsy@beerlover.com)
23-03-2006, 04:33 PM
On 23 Mar 2006 02:41:55 +0100, Smee R11S <me@there.net> wrote:

> >> A lot of areas that are now land were once under water. The fact that a
> >> lot of the arabic desert areas are rich in oil, what was there during the
> >> jurasic period??
> >
> > Bulldog supporters?
> >
> Western bulldogs?
> Only bogans support em.

Both Bulldogs (NRL and AFL) seem to attract similar fans.