How does Howard know he dosn't know?

[Ext User(Joe Sixpack)]

The AWB was a GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT in HIS government when they transfered
$300 MILLION Aussie dollars to Saddams bank account. Howard claims he
didn't know what he should have known. It's his job to know what his
government are doing, so if he says he didn't know, how does he know
about that also?
Remember Howard is a proven liar whose words mean nothing.
Did he retire when he was 60? Did he introduce a GST?
I recon he knows that he did know about the bribes, and he is finished as
a credible representative of this nation-continent.

[Ext User(Horry)]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:40:13 GMT, Joe Sixpack wrote:

> Remember Howard is a proven liar whose words mean nothing.
> Did he retire when he was 60?

When did Howard ever say he was going to retire at 60?

Welcome to the delusional mind of Joseph Sixpack.

[Ext User(Joe Sixpack)]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:18:49 +1030, Horry wrote:


> When did Howard ever say he was going to retire at 60?

It was 64 so go and eat up all your shite like a good little donkey
http://users.bigpond.net.au/davidday/articles/article08.html

[Ext User(Horry)]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:00:34 GMT, Joe Sixpack wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:18:49 +1030, Horry wrote:
>
>
>> When did Howard ever say he was going to retire at 60?
>
> It was 64 so go and eat up all your shite like a good little donkey
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/davidday/articles/article08.html

Not only were you wrong the first time (60 vs 64), you've now also managed
to fuck up in your correction.

From your own source:

"During the recent election campaign, the Labor Party made much of John
Howard's oft-stated intention TO CONSIDER RETIRING when he reached the age
of 64." (emphasis added)

Welcome to the delusional and illiterate mind of Joseph Sixpack.

[Ext User(ralph)]

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 22:37:18 +1030, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:00:34 GMT, Joe Sixpack wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:18:49 +1030, Horry wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When did Howard ever say he was going to retire at 60?
>>
>> It was 64 so go and eat up all your shite like a good little donkey
>> http://users.bigpond.net.au/davidday/articles/article08.html
>
>Not only were you wrong the first time (60 vs 64), you've now also managed
>to fuck up in your correction.
>
>From your own source:
>
>"During the recent election campaign, the Labor Party made much of John
>Howard's oft-stated intention TO CONSIDER RETIRING when he reached the age
>of 64." (emphasis added)
>
>Welcome to the delusional and illiterate mind of Joseph Sixpack.

heh heh

To be fair, Sixpack might not be illiterate ... he might just be a
liar.

Which is it Joe?

(Joe will now cut-and-run from this thread ... as he usually does when
his bullshit is exposed)

[Ext User(sav)]

So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over the GST

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
What's changed now?

[Ext User(Horry)]

On 3 Feb 2006 04:39:38 -0800, sav wrote:

> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over the GST

I dispute that.

> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
> What's changed now?

Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO AN ELECTION
SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election he won.

There are reasons to be critical of Howard's government, but, IMO, the GST
and "consider retiring at 64" are non-issues.

[Ext User(H Dickmann)]

"Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1qwfaf5eucu60.t93tuo1hjya0$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On 3 Feb 2006 04:39:38 -0800, sav wrote:
>
>> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over the GST
>
> I dispute that.
>
>> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
>> What's changed now?
>
> Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO AN
> ELECTION
> SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election he won.

He would not have won the election if the Democrats had statet before the
election that they will support the GST in the Senate.


>
> There are reasons to be critical of Howard's government, but, IMO, the GST
> and "consider retiring at 64" are non-issues.
>
>

[Ext User(Horry)]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:08:39 GMT, H Dickmann wrote:

> "Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1qwfaf5eucu60.t93tuo1hjya0$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On 3 Feb 2006 04:39:38 -0800, sav wrote:
>>
>>> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over the GST
>>
>> I dispute that.
>>
>>> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
>>> What's changed now?
>>
>> Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO AN
>> ELECTION
>> SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election he won.
>
> He would not have won the election if the Democrats had statet before the
> election that they will support the GST in the Senate.

People who were against the GST and who were silly enough to vote for
Howard anyway on the understanding that the Democrats would (1) hold the
balance of power in the Senate; and (2) not allow the GST legislation to
pass; deserve all they got.

And even if those idiots were numerous enough to swing the results in
Howard's favour (which I very much doubt), it's hardly something that
Howard can be blamed for.

[Ext User(Sunny)]

"Joe Sixpack" <sixpackjoe@nototalitarian.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.03.12.01.57.292297@nototalitarian .org...
> On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:18:49 +1030, Horry wrote:
>
>
>> When did Howard ever say he was going to retire at 60?
>
> It was 64 so go and eat up all your shite like a good little donkey
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/davidday/articles/article08.html

Get your keeper to read this out loud to you (from your reference)
"Not necessarily so, replied Howard, since he had not made a definite
undertaking to retire at 64. He had only said he would *think about
retiring*.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1qwfaf5eucu60.t93tuo1hjya0$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On 3 Feb 2006 04:39:38 -0800, sav wrote:
>>
>>> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over the
>>> GST
>>
>> I dispute that.
>>
>>> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
>>> What's changed now?
>>
>> Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO AN
>> ELECTION
>> SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election he won.

> He would not have won the election if the Democrats had statet before the
> election that they will support the GST in the Senate.

Mindless pig ignorant drivel.

>
>>
>> There are reasons to be critical of Howard's government, but, IMO,
>> the GST and "consider retiring at 64" are non-issues.

[Ext User(H Dickmann)]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:44ii43F2bt1nU1@individual.net...
>H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> "Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1qwfaf5eucu60.t93tuo1hjya0$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On 3 Feb 2006 04:39:38 -0800, sav wrote:
>>>
>>>> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over the
>>>> GST
>>>
>>> I dispute that.
>>>
>>>> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
>>>> What's changed now?
>>>
>>> Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO AN
>>> ELECTION
>>> SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election he won.
>
>> He would not have won the election if the Democrats had statet before the
>> election that they will support the GST in the Senate.
>
> Mindless pig ignorant drivel.

A very intelligent contribution to a debate.


>
>>
>>>
>>> There are reasons to be critical of Howard's government, but, IMO,
>>> the GST and "consider retiring at 64" are non-issues.
>
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote
>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> sav wrote

>>>>> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over
>>>>> the GST

>>>> I dispute that.

>>>>> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
>>>>> What's changed now?

>>>> Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO AN
>>>> ELECTION SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election he won.

>>> He would not have won the election if the Democrats had statet
>>> before the election that they will support the GST in the Senate.

>> Mindless pig ignorant drivel.

> A very intelligent contribution to a debate.

Your mindless pig ignorant drivel in spades.

>>>> There are reasons to be critical of Howard's government, but, IMO, the
>>>> GST and "consider retiring at 64" are non-issues.

[Ext User(H Dickmann)]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:44imfhF2bec6U1@individual.net...
>H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote
>>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> sav wrote
>
>>>>>> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over
>>>>>> the GST
>
>>>>> I dispute that.
>
>>>>>> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
>>>>>> What's changed now?
>
>>>>> Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO AN
>>>>> ELECTION SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election he won.
>
>>>> He would not have won the election if the Democrats had statet
>>>> before the election that they will support the GST in the Senate.
>
>>> Mindless pig ignorant drivel.
>
>> A very intelligent contribution to a debate.
>
> Your mindless pig ignorant drivel in spades.

As above.

>
>>>>> There are reasons to be critical of Howard's government, but, IMO, the
>>>>> GST and "consider retiring at 64" are non-issues.
>
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:44imfhF2bec6U1@individual.net...
>> H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> H Dickmann <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote
>>>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> sav wrote
>>
>>>>>>> So nobody is doubting that little Johnny is a lying weasel over
>>>>>>> the GST
>>
>>>>>> I dispute that.
>>
>>>>>>> http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bp/1997-98/98bp01.htm
>>>>>>> What's changed now?
>>
>>>>>> Howard changed his mind, was open about doing so, AND WENT INTO
>>>>>> AN ELECTION SPECIFICALLY CAMPAIGNING FOR A GST, which election
>>>>>> he won.
>>
>>>>> He would not have won the election if the Democrats had statet
>>>>> before the election that they will support the GST in the Senate.
>>
>>>> Mindless pig ignorant drivel.
>>
>>> A very intelligent contribution to a debate.
>>
>> Your mindless pig ignorant drivel in spades.

> As above.

Your mindless pig ignorant drivel in spades.


>>>>>> There are reasons to be critical of Howard's government, but,
>>>>>> IMO, the GST and "consider retiring at 64" are non-issues.

[Ext User(Joe Sixpack)]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:14:34 +1100, ralph wrote:
> (Joe will now cut-and-run from this thread ... as he usually does when
> his bullshit is exposed)
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/02/18/1045330604276.html
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s789931.htm
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17516024%255E12854,00.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/04/15/1018333480076.html

Howard has consistenty named the age of 64 as the date he would consider
his retirement. He has never come out and said he would stay the course.

[Ext User(Kwyjibo)]

"Joe Sixpack" <sixpackjoe@nototalitarian.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.04.10.16.36.985962@nototalitarian .org
> On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:14:34 +1100, ralph wrote:
>> (Joe will now cut-and-run from this thread ... as he usually does
>> when his bullshit is exposed)
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/02/18/1045330604276.html
> http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s789931.htm
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17516024%255E12854,00.html
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/04/15/1018333480076.html
>
> Howard has consistenty named the age of 64 as the date he would
> consider his retirement.

'CONSIDER' you pig-ignorant redneck fuckwit. Try getting that through your
(apparently armour-plated) head.


--
Kwyj

[Ext User(Joe Sixpack)]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 21:48:31 +1100, Kwyjibo wrote:


> 'CONSIDER' you pig-ignorant redneck fuckwit. Try getting that through your
> (apparently armour-plated) head.

OK what evidence do you have that he has 'considered' his retirement?

[Ext User(Horry)]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:33:58 GMT, Joe Sixpack wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 21:48:31 +1100, Kwyjibo wrote:
>
>
>> 'CONSIDER' you pig-ignorant redneck fuckwit. Try getting that through your
>> (apparently armour-plated) head.
>
> OK what evidence do you have that he has 'considered' his retirement?

1) Anyone in Howard's position would be continually considering his
options, including the possible option of retirement. Are you seriously
suggesting that Howard did NOT even once consider retirement during the one
year period commencing at 00:00 on his 64th birthday and ending at 23:59 on
the evening prior to his 65th?

2) Who gives a fuck? Is this the best you can come up with? Next you'll
be demanding proof that Howard "really means it" when he wishes people a
good morning.

[Ext User(Fitzroy)]

"Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ooc4wyj1soxk.m5lo18x34dvs.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:33:58 GMT, Joe Sixpack wrote:
>
> Next you'll be demanding proof that Howard "really means it"
> when he wishes people a good morning.
>


hehehehe......particularly if it happens to be a cloudy
morning. 'One-can-short-of-a-sixpack' will then accuse
Howard of being sarcastic.


(some of you may recognise this gag from an episode
of 'The Young Ones')