Re: Carlton cop it in the media

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>>>>>
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/11/1128796527551.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recycling shown to be just rubbish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Michael Gleeson
>>>>>> October 12, 2005
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OF THE 13 players to arrive at Optus Oval from other clubs under
>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>> Pagan, only six remain. The theory of making silk purses from sows'
>>>>>> ears
>>>>>> has been proven hogwash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Admittedly, there was an element of necessity about the experiment,
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the loss of draft picks for cheating the salary cap made early picks
>>>>>> scarce. But the notion that this could be compensated for by trading
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> remaining picks and resurrecting the careers of players who tried and
>>>>>> failed at other clubs was always thin. Now it has been proven
>>>>>> unsustainable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick Stevens remains the only gilt-edged arrival since Pagan. But he
>>>>>> fell
>>>>>> in Carlton's lap, a fortuitous product of Port Adelaide
>>>>>> pig-headedness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruckman Barnaby French has been worthwhile, but came at a cost - pick
>>>>>> 16
>>>>>> in 2003.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heath Scotland is intriguing. Carlton gave up what would have been
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> next live pick (No. 35) after Andrew Walker and losing its draft
>>>>>> picks in
>>>>>> 2003. Scotland, more than most, has delivered. But pick 35 is not a
>>>>>> bad
>>>>>> pick. Pacy Essendon prospect Ricky Dyson and Amon Buchanan, who
>>>>>> played
>>>>>> recently in Sydney's premiership were both taken shortly afterwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Teague was bundled in a trade with Digby Morrell for Corey
>>>>>> McKernan.
>>>>>> Morrell now has been delisted. Teague won the best and fairest in his
>>>>>> first season at Carlton, but this year was a more modest return.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jordan Bannister, after only five games this year and most of the
>>>>>> season
>>>>>> in the VFL, would remain doubtful to be at Carlton next year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick Martyn was the howler of all the decisions. Carlton people
>>>>>> cringe to
>>>>>> contemplate their club nursing a North Melbourne player to his 300th
>>>>>> game
>>>>>> and chairing him from the ground in a year the team finished 15th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel Harford, although only 27 when the 2004 season began, was past
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> The Blues gave up pick 51 for Harford and fellow ex-Hawk Brett
>>>>>> Johnson,
>>>>>> one of yesterday's casualties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While it is easy to dismiss the trading as a necessity, this is
>>>>>> hollow.
>>>>>> Carlton could have had picks from 35 onwards. Sure that sounds late,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> the players who now offer Carlton hope - Kade Simpson, Brad Fisher
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Adrian Deluca - were all taken after pick 45.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PAGAN'S RETREADS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick Martyn: '02 national draft (ex-Kangaroos). Retired end '03. 13
>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jordan Bannister: pick 69 in '03 national draft. Ex-Essendon. 22
>>>>>> games,
>>>>>> five in '05. Still on list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glen Bowyer: pick 63 in '03 national draft (ex-Hawthorn). 7 games.
>>>>>> Retired
>>>>>> end '05.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Clarke: traded end '03 from Geelong. 12 games. Delisted '05.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel Harford: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. Retired end '04. 9
>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brett Johnson: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>> '05.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cory McGrath: traded end '03 from Essendon. 31 games, 19 this year.
>>>>>> Still
>>>>>> on list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Digby Morrell: traded end '03 from Kangaroos. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>> '05.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ricky Mott: pick 57 in '03 national draft. Delisted end '04. 2 games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heath Scotland: traded from Collingwood. 41 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick Stevens: pre-season draft, 42 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Teague: traded by Kangaroos. 43 games. Still playing. Won '04 B
>>>>>> & F.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EQUATION: 13 players. 6 remain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barnaby French: traded from Port Adelaide. 51 games. Still playing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christened "The Graves" by the KRUDLER and now all can see why
>>>>> ......... LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> $850,000.00 per year and this is what they get from the highest paid
>>>>> "coach" in the AFL , oh and thumbs up for the rest of the coaching
>>>>> group from the board in reality no sackings as no one in their right
>>>>> mind would want to come on board this sunken vessel .. ..
>>>>>
>>>>> What a sad little joke this once reasonable club has become
>>>>> .........As I've said all along ... Pagan is the highest paid coach
>>>>> with little or no clue .......... I just love the way Graves fans
>>>>> stick by him until he is sacked one day and then expect a tirade from
>>>>> them just like they did with Elliot , Britain and now Compo ... What a
>>>>> lovely bunch of folk down at the cemetery .....LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> c];-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christened whatever by whoever, the Carlton Football Club is still the
>>>> number one topic on ASAR.
>>>> Krud can't stop talking about us (It's becoming a bit obsessive
>>>> really), journalists can't stop writing about us, people in the street
>>>> are humming "Lilly of Laguna".
>>>> And why?
>>>> Is it because we are the most successful team in history?
>>>> I think there's more to it than that.
>>>> I think it's the jumper, the song,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok stop right there... the song???
>>>
>>> Dada dada dada! Give me a break! Your Guernsey is also pretty hideous.
>>
>> the song is a cruel joke. ever notice the way players mumble the end of
>> the line that goes "we're the only team that Carlton...".
>
>
> That's because they changed it from... "We're the only team from Carlton
> town" to the current "We're the only team all Carlton knows". Both lines
> suck really so the players are always embarrassed to sing that bit.

The line is "We're the only team old Carlton knows"...and the line doesn't
suck...the only reason that line is not sung as hard is because the line
ends in a lower note, if you sang it as loud as the rest of the line, it
would just sound stupid.

You wanna talk about lines that suck in club songs and players/supporters
mumbling bits? The whole first verse of your song always gets mumbled, and
they've totally fucked it up by changing "North Melbourne" for
"Kangas"..."Good old the Kangas..."? Fuck off!

[Ext User(Mark Shea)]

Jezza wrote:

> You wanna talk about lines that suck in club songs and players/supporters
> mumbling bits? The whole first verse of your song always gets mumbled, and
> they've totally fucked it up by changing "North Melbourne" for
> "Kangas"..."Good old the Kangas..."? Fuck off!

The name-change from "North Melbourne" to "the Kangaroos" is my least
liked change-of-name in the league. I've never really been worried about
the Western Bulldogs (because they are, intrinsically, the Dogs) but I
still think of the Kangaroos as 'North'.

*shrugs*

Mark Shea

[Ext User(Neil Green)]

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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>> http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/11/1128796527551.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recycling shown to be just rubbish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Michael Gleeson
>>>>>>> October 12, 2005
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OF THE 13 players to arrive at Optus Oval from other clubs under
>>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>>> Pagan, only six remain. The theory of making silk purses from sows'
>>>>>>> ears
>>>>>>> has been proven hogwash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Admittedly, there was an element of necessity about the experiment,
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the loss of draft picks for cheating the salary cap made early picks
>>>>>>> scarce. But the notion that this could be compensated for by trading
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> remaining picks and resurrecting the careers of players who tried
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> failed at other clubs was always thin. Now it has been proven
>>>>>>> unsustainable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick Stevens remains the only gilt-edged arrival since Pagan. But he
>>>>>>> fell
>>>>>>> in Carlton's lap, a fortuitous product of Port Adelaide
>>>>>>> pig-headedness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruckman Barnaby French has been worthwhile, but came at a cost -
>>>>>>> pick 16
>>>>>>> in 2003.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heath Scotland is intriguing. Carlton gave up what would have been
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> next live pick (No. 35) after Andrew Walker and losing its draft
>>>>>>> picks in
>>>>>>> 2003. Scotland, more than most, has delivered. But pick 35 is not a
>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>> pick. Pacy Essendon prospect Ricky Dyson and Amon Buchanan, who
>>>>>>> played
>>>>>>> recently in Sydney's premiership were both taken shortly afterwards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Teague was bundled in a trade with Digby Morrell for Corey
>>>>>>> McKernan.
>>>>>>> Morrell now has been delisted. Teague won the best and fairest in
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> first season at Carlton, but this year was a more modest return.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jordan Bannister, after only five games this year and most of the
>>>>>>> season
>>>>>>> in the VFL, would remain doubtful to be at Carlton next year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick Martyn was the howler of all the decisions. Carlton people
>>>>>>> cringe to
>>>>>>> contemplate their club nursing a North Melbourne player to his 300th
>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>> and chairing him from the ground in a year the team finished 15th.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel Harford, although only 27 when the 2004 season began, was
>>>>>>> past it.
>>>>>>> The Blues gave up pick 51 for Harford and fellow ex-Hawk Brett
>>>>>>> Johnson,
>>>>>>> one of yesterday's casualties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While it is easy to dismiss the trading as a necessity, this is
>>>>>>> hollow.
>>>>>>> Carlton could have had picks from 35 onwards. Sure that sounds late,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> the players who now offer Carlton hope - Kade Simpson, Brad Fisher
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Adrian Deluca - were all taken after pick 45.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PAGAN'S RETREADS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick Martyn: '02 national draft (ex-Kangaroos). Retired end '03. 13
>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jordan Bannister: pick 69 in '03 national draft. Ex-Essendon. 22
>>>>>>> games,
>>>>>>> five in '05. Still on list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glen Bowyer: pick 63 in '03 national draft (ex-Hawthorn). 7 games.
>>>>>>> Retired
>>>>>>> end '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Clarke: traded end '03 from Geelong. 12 games. Delisted '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel Harford: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. Retired end '04. 9
>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brett Johnson: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>>> '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cory McGrath: traded end '03 from Essendon. 31 games, 19 this year.
>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>> on list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Digby Morrell: traded end '03 from Kangaroos. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>>> '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ricky Mott: pick 57 in '03 national draft. Delisted end '04. 2
>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heath Scotland: traded from Collingwood. 41 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick Stevens: pre-season draft, 42 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Teague: traded by Kangaroos. 43 games. Still playing. Won '04
>>>>>>> B & F.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EQUATION: 13 players. 6 remain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barnaby French: traded from Port Adelaide. 51 games. Still playing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christened "The Graves" by the KRUDLER and now all can see why
>>>>>> ......... LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $850,000.00 per year and this is what they get from the highest paid
>>>>>> "coach" in the AFL , oh and thumbs up for the rest of the coaching
>>>>>> group from the board in reality no sackings as no one in their right
>>>>>> mind would want to come on board this sunken vessel .. ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a sad little joke this once reasonable club has become
>>>>>> .........As I've said all along ... Pagan is the highest paid coach
>>>>>> with little or no clue .......... I just love the way Graves fans
>>>>>> stick by him until he is sacked one day and then expect a tirade from
>>>>>> them just like they did with Elliot , Britain and now Compo ... What
>>>>>> a lovely bunch of folk down at the cemetery .....LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c];-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christened whatever by whoever, the Carlton Football Club is still the
>>>>> number one topic on ASAR.
>>>>> Krud can't stop talking about us (It's becoming a bit obsessive
>>>>> really), journalists can't stop writing about us, people in the street
>>>>> are humming "Lilly of Laguna".
>>>>> And why?
>>>>> Is it because we are the most successful team in history?
>>>>> I think there's more to it than that.
>>>>> I think it's the jumper, the song,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok stop right there... the song???
>>>>
>>>> Dada dada dada! Give me a break! Your Guernsey is also pretty hideous.
>>>
>>> the song is a cruel joke. ever notice the way players mumble the end of
>>> the line that goes "we're the only team that Carlton...".
>>
>>
>> That's because they changed it from... "We're the only team from Carlton
>> town" to the current "We're the only team all Carlton knows". Both lines
>> suck really so the players are always embarrassed to sing that bit.
>
> The line is "We're the only team old Carlton knows"...and the line doesn't
> suck...the only reason that line is not sung as hard is because the line
> ends in a lower note, if you sang it as loud as the rest of the line, it
> would just sound stupid.
>
> You wanna talk about lines that suck in club songs and players/supporters
> mumbling bits? The whole first verse of your song always gets mumbled, and
> they've totally fucked it up by changing "North Melbourne" for
> "Kangas"..."Good old the Kangas..."? Fuck off!

The players and cheer squad actually sing "Good old North Melbourne"
I don't know if it's been officially changed back or whether they just took
it on themselves.
Great song I reckon.

[Ext User(d e k e r)]

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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From:
>>>>>>>>http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/11/1128796527551.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Recycling shown to be just rubbish
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By Michael Gleeson
>>>>>>>>October 12, 2005
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>OF THE 13 players to arrive at Optus Oval from other clubs under
>>>>>>>>Denis
>>>>>>>>Pagan, only six remain. The theory of making silk purses from sows'
>>>>>>>>ears
>>>>>>>>has been proven hogwash.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Admittedly, there was an element of necessity about the experiment,
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>the loss of draft picks for cheating the salary cap made early picks
>>>>>>>>scarce. But the notion that this could be compensated for by trading
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>remaining picks and resurrecting the careers of players who tried
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>failed at other clubs was always thin. Now it has been proven
>>>>>>>>unsustainable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nick Stevens remains the only gilt-edged arrival since Pagan. But he
>>>>>>>>fell
>>>>>>>>in Carlton's lap, a fortuitous product of Port Adelaide
>>>>>>>>pig-headedness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ruckman Barnaby French has been worthwhile, but came at a cost -
>>>>>>>>pick 16
>>>>>>>>in 2003.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heath Scotland is intriguing. Carlton gave up what would have been
>>>>>>>>its
>>>>>>>>next live pick (No. 35) after Andrew Walker and losing its draft
>>>>>>>>picks in
>>>>>>>>2003. Scotland, more than most, has delivered. But pick 35 is not a
>>>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>>pick. Pacy Essendon prospect Ricky Dyson and Amon Buchanan, who
>>>>>>>>played
>>>>>>>>recently in Sydney's premiership were both taken shortly afterwards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David Teague was bundled in a trade with Digby Morrell for Corey
>>>>>>>>McKernan.
>>>>>>>>Morrell now has been delisted. Teague won the best and fairest in
>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>first season at Carlton, but this year was a more modest return.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jordan Bannister, after only five games this year and most of the
>>>>>>>>season
>>>>>>>>in the VFL, would remain doubtful to be at Carlton next year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mick Martyn was the howler of all the decisions. Carlton people
>>>>>>>>cringe to
>>>>>>>>contemplate their club nursing a North Melbourne player to his 300th
>>>>>>>>game
>>>>>>>>and chairing him from the ground in a year the team finished 15th.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Daniel Harford, although only 27 when the 2004 season began, was
>>>>>>>>past it.
>>>>>>>>The Blues gave up pick 51 for Harford and fellow ex-Hawk Brett
>>>>>>>>Johnson,
>>>>>>>>one of yesterday's casualties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>While it is easy to dismiss the trading as a necessity, this is
>>>>>>>>hollow.
>>>>>>>>Carlton could have had picks from 35 onwards. Sure that sounds late,
>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>the players who now offer Carlton hope - Kade Simpson, Brad Fisher
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>Adrian Deluca - were all taken after pick 45.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>PAGAN'S RETREADS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mick Martyn: '02 national draft (ex-Kangaroos). Retired end '03. 13
>>>>>>>>games.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jordan Bannister: pick 69 in '03 national draft. Ex-Essendon. 22
>>>>>>>>games,
>>>>>>>>five in '05. Still on list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Glen Bowyer: pick 63 in '03 national draft (ex-Hawthorn). 7 games.
>>>>>>>>Retired
>>>>>>>>end '05.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David Clarke: traded end '03 from Geelong. 12 games. Delisted '05.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Daniel Harford: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. Retired end '04. 9
>>>>>>>>games.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Brett Johnson: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>>>>'05.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cory McGrath: traded end '03 from Essendon. 31 games, 19 this year.
>>>>>>>>Still
>>>>>>>>on list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Digby Morrell: traded end '03 from Kangaroos. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>>>>'05.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ricky Mott: pick 57 in '03 national draft. Delisted end '04. 2
>>>>>>>>games.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heath Scotland: traded from Collingwood. 41 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nick Stevens: pre-season draft, 42 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David Teague: traded by Kangaroos. 43 games. Still playing. Won '04
>>>>>>>>B & F.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>EQUATION: 13 players. 6 remain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Barnaby French: traded from Port Adelaide. 51 games. Still playing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Christened "The Graves" by the KRUDLER and now all can see why
>>>>>>>......... LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$850,000.00 per year and this is what they get from the highest paid
>>>>>>>"coach" in the AFL , oh and thumbs up for the rest of the coaching
>>>>>>>group from the board in reality no sackings as no one in their right
>>>>>>>mind would want to come on board this sunken vessel .. ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What a sad little joke this once reasonable club has become
>>>>>>>.........As I've said all along ... Pagan is the highest paid coach
>>>>>>>with little or no clue .......... I just love the way Graves fans
>>>>>>>stick by him until he is sacked one day and then expect a tirade from
>>>>>>>them just like they did with Elliot , Britain and now Compo ... What
>>>>>>>a lovely bunch of folk down at the cemetery .....LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>c];-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Christened whatever by whoever, the Carlton Football Club is still the
>>>>>>number one topic on ASAR.
>>>>>>Krud can't stop talking about us (It's becoming a bit obsessive
>>>>>>really), journalists can't stop writing about us, people in the street
>>>>>>are humming "Lilly of Laguna".
>>>>>>And why?
>>>>>>Is it because we are the most successful team in history?
>>>>>>I think there's more to it than that.
>>>>>>I think it's the jumper, the song,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok stop right there... the song???
>>>>>
>>>>>Dada dada dada! Give me a break! Your Guernsey is also pretty hideous.
>>>>
>>>>the song is a cruel joke. ever notice the way players mumble the end of
>>>>the line that goes "we're the only team that Carlton...".
>>>
>>>
>>>That's because they changed it from... "We're the only team from Carlton
>>>town" to the current "We're the only team all Carlton knows". Both lines
>>>suck really so the players are always embarrassed to sing that bit.
>>
>>The line is "We're the only team old Carlton knows"...and the line doesn't
>>suck...the only reason that line is not sung as hard is because the line
>>ends in a lower note, if you sang it as loud as the rest of the line, it
>>would just sound stupid.
>>
>>You wanna talk about lines that suck in club songs and players/supporters
>>mumbling bits? The whole first verse of your song always gets mumbled, and
>>they've totally fucked it up by changing "North Melbourne" for
>>"Kangas"..."Good old the Kangas..."? Fuck off!
>
>
> The players and cheer squad actually sing "Good old North Melbourne"
> I don't know if it's been officially changed back or whether they just took
> it on themselves.
> Great song I reckon.

out we come, out we come, out we come to play
lots of fun, lots of fun, for everyone blah blah blah

yeah great song... if you're a fan of The Wiggles...
Maybe they could reprise it or add "Wake Up Jon" in there to make sure
they get the most out of Jon Hay.

The chorus is okay, but the Teddy Bears Picnic stuff before that makes
me wanna blow up my gramophone

deker

[Ext User(Sweep)]

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>>>>>> "David Clayton" <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:pan.2005.10.11.23.23.28.536244@XYZ.myrealbox. com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>> http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/11/1128796527551.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recycling shown to be just rubbish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Michael Gleeson
>>>>>>> October 12, 2005
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OF THE 13 players to arrive at Optus Oval from other clubs under
>>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>>> Pagan, only six remain. The theory of making silk purses from sows'
>>>>>>> ears
>>>>>>> has been proven hogwash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Admittedly, there was an element of necessity about the experiment,
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the loss of draft picks for cheating the salary cap made early picks
>>>>>>> scarce. But the notion that this could be compensated for by trading
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> remaining picks and resurrecting the careers of players who tried
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> failed at other clubs was always thin. Now it has been proven
>>>>>>> unsustainable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick Stevens remains the only gilt-edged arrival since Pagan. But he
>>>>>>> fell
>>>>>>> in Carlton's lap, a fortuitous product of Port Adelaide
>>>>>>> pig-headedness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruckman Barnaby French has been worthwhile, but came at a cost -
>>>>>>> pick 16
>>>>>>> in 2003.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heath Scotland is intriguing. Carlton gave up what would have been
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> next live pick (No. 35) after Andrew Walker and losing its draft
>>>>>>> picks in
>>>>>>> 2003. Scotland, more than most, has delivered. But pick 35 is not a
>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>> pick. Pacy Essendon prospect Ricky Dyson and Amon Buchanan, who
>>>>>>> played
>>>>>>> recently in Sydney's premiership were both taken shortly afterwards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Teague was bundled in a trade with Digby Morrell for Corey
>>>>>>> McKernan.
>>>>>>> Morrell now has been delisted. Teague won the best and fairest in
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> first season at Carlton, but this year was a more modest return.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jordan Bannister, after only five games this year and most of the
>>>>>>> season
>>>>>>> in the VFL, would remain doubtful to be at Carlton next year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick Martyn was the howler of all the decisions. Carlton people
>>>>>>> cringe to
>>>>>>> contemplate their club nursing a North Melbourne player to his 300th
>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>> and chairing him from the ground in a year the team finished 15th.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel Harford, although only 27 when the 2004 season began, was
>>>>>>> past it.
>>>>>>> The Blues gave up pick 51 for Harford and fellow ex-Hawk Brett
>>>>>>> Johnson,
>>>>>>> one of yesterday's casualties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While it is easy to dismiss the trading as a necessity, this is
>>>>>>> hollow.
>>>>>>> Carlton could have had picks from 35 onwards. Sure that sounds late,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> the players who now offer Carlton hope - Kade Simpson, Brad Fisher
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Adrian Deluca - were all taken after pick 45.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PAGAN'S RETREADS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick Martyn: '02 national draft (ex-Kangaroos). Retired end '03. 13
>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jordan Bannister: pick 69 in '03 national draft. Ex-Essendon. 22
>>>>>>> games,
>>>>>>> five in '05. Still on list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glen Bowyer: pick 63 in '03 national draft (ex-Hawthorn). 7 games.
>>>>>>> Retired
>>>>>>> end '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Clarke: traded end '03 from Geelong. 12 games. Delisted '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel Harford: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. Retired end '04. 9
>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brett Johnson: traded end '03 from Hawthorn. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>>> '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cory McGrath: traded end '03 from Essendon. 31 games, 19 this year.
>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>> on list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Digby Morrell: traded end '03 from Kangaroos. 32 games. Delisted end
>>>>>>> '05.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ricky Mott: pick 57 in '03 national draft. Delisted end '04. 2
>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heath Scotland: traded from Collingwood. 41 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick Stevens: pre-season draft, 42 games. Still playing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Teague: traded by Kangaroos. 43 games. Still playing. Won '04
>>>>>>> B & F.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EQUATION: 13 players. 6 remain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barnaby French: traded from Port Adelaide. 51 games. Still playing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christened "The Graves" by the KRUDLER and now all can see why
>>>>>> ......... LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $850,000.00 per year and this is what they get from the highest paid
>>>>>> "coach" in the AFL , oh and thumbs up for the rest of the coaching
>>>>>> group from the board in reality no sackings as no one in their right
>>>>>> mind would want to come on board this sunken vessel .. ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a sad little joke this once reasonable club has become
>>>>>> .........As I've said all along ... Pagan is the highest paid coach
>>>>>> with little or no clue .......... I just love the way Graves fans
>>>>>> stick by him until he is sacked one day and then expect a tirade from
>>>>>> them just like they did with Elliot , Britain and now Compo ... What
>>>>>> a lovely bunch of folk down at the cemetery .....LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c];-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christened whatever by whoever, the Carlton Football Club is still the
>>>>> number one topic on ASAR.
>>>>> Krud can't stop talking about us (It's becoming a bit obsessive
>>>>> really), journalists can't stop writing about us, people in the street
>>>>> are humming "Lilly of Laguna".
>>>>> And why?
>>>>> Is it because we are the most successful team in history?
>>>>> I think there's more to it than that.
>>>>> I think it's the jumper, the song,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok stop right there... the song???
>>>>
>>>> Dada dada dada! Give me a break! Your Guernsey is also pretty hideous.
>>>
>>> the song is a cruel joke. ever notice the way players mumble the end of
>>> the line that goes "we're the only team that Carlton...".
>>
>>
>> That's because they changed it from... "We're the only team from Carlton
>> town" to the current "We're the only team all Carlton knows". Both lines
>> suck really so the players are always embarrassed to sing that bit.
>
> The line is "We're the only team old Carlton knows"...and the line doesn't
> suck...the only reason that line is not sung as hard is because the line
> ends in a lower note, if you sang it as loud as the rest of the line, it
> would just sound stupid.
>
> You wanna talk about lines that suck in club songs and players/supporters
> mumbling bits? The whole first verse of your song always gets mumbled, and
> they've totally fucked it up by changing "North Melbourne" for
> "Kangas"..."Good old the Kangas..."? Fuck off!
>

Everyone knows that the funniest line is in Collingwood's song...

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