INTERNATIONAL RULES IS CRAP

[Ext User(Antony)]

I watched the second match and found it to be amatuerish and silly as an
AFL match. I find both sports like British Bulldogs going from one end of
the ground to the other as quickly as possible.

The Irish are right in calling it to be banned.

[Ext User(woods)]

In article <43659485$0$25857$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Antony" <antony76@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> I watched the second match and found it to be amatuerish and silly as an
> AFL match.

it wasn't AFL.

>I find both sports like British Bulldogs going from one end of
> the ground to the other as quickly as possible.

you'd love basketball.

>
> The Irish are right in calling it to be banned.

sore losers!

[Ext User(Somefella)]

"Antony" <antony76@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>I watched the second match and found it to be amatuerish and silly as an
> AFL match. I find both sports like British Bulldogs going from one end of
> the ground to the other as quickly as possible.
>
> The Irish are right in calling it to be banned.

Carefactor.

[Ext User(Colin Kynoch)]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 04:06:46 GMT, "Somefella"
<footyrocks@iprimus.com.au>after much thought and consideration
decided that the following would improve the lives of those that read
it:

>
>"Antony" <antony76@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>news:43659485$0$25857$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>I watched the second match and found it to be amatuerish and silly as an
>> AFL match. I find both sports like British Bulldogs going from one end of
>> the ground to the other as quickly as possible.
>>
>> The Irish are right in calling it to be banned.
>
>Carefactor.

I'd say somewhere in the high zeros.

Colin Kynoch

[Ext User(Colin Kynoch)]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:35:28 +1100, "Antony"
<antony76@optusnet.com.au>after much thought and consideration decided
that the following would improve the lives of those that read it:

>Somehow I have not found any logic or intelligence in AFL either.

We are finding the same problem with your posts.

> Why are goals kicked so easily.

They aren't.

> Rugby Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful

Interesting theory, want to back it up with some evidence?

> and have offside rules in place.

Well that must make them superior.

An offside rule, wow.

Colin Kynoch

[Ext User(Antony)]

Somehow I have not found any logic or intelligence in AFL either. Why are
goals kicked so easily. Rugby Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful and
have offside rules in place.


"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
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> In article <43659485$0$25857$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "Antony" <antony76@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > I watched the second match and found it to be amatuerish and silly as
an
> > AFL match.
>
> it wasn't AFL.
>
> >I find both sports like British Bulldogs going from one end of
> > the ground to the other as quickly as possible.
>
> you'd love basketball.
>
> >
> > The Irish are right in calling it to be banned.
>
> sore losers!

[Ext User(Antony)]

Aussie Rules can be easily learned. Kevin Sheedy often looks to recruit
Gridiron rejects from the NFL?

There was once an American who played for the Sydney Swans about 8-9 years
ago? Wasn't Brad Green a Soccer player who was three years at Manchester
United??

Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful. For instance in Soccer you need to
know on how to curl a ball past a keeper and player walls and there are no
marks in Soccer, Soccer is more free flowing. A great athlete will not be
able to tackle a skilful soccer player(there are no hands) but will be able
to tackle an AFL player.

Scoring goals in Soccer is a lot harder. You have a goalkeeper to get the
ball past and the goals are not infinite like Aussie rules is??



"Colin Kynoch" <colinkynoch@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:35:28 +1100, "Antony"
> <antony76@optusnet.com.au>after much thought and consideration decided
> that the following would improve the lives of those that read it:
>
> >Somehow I have not found any logic or intelligence in AFL either.
>
> We are finding the same problem with your posts.
>
> > Why are goals kicked so easily.
>
> They aren't.
>
> > Rugby Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful
>
> Interesting theory, want to back it up with some evidence?
>
> > and have offside rules in place.
>
> Well that must make them superior.
>
> An offside rule, wow.
>
> Colin Kynoch

[Ext User(Colin Kynoch)]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:56:04 +1100, "Antony"
<antony76@optusnet.com.au>proved their level of intelligence by top
posting:

>Aussie Rules can be easily learned.

No more so than any other football code.

> Kevin Sheedy often looks to recruit
>Gridiron rejects from the NFL?

And to date has recruited ZERO, NONE, NADA in over 2 decades of
coaching. In fact more AFL players have gone on to play NFL (is that
actually a sport or a game show?) than the other way round.

>There was once an American who played for the Sydney Swans about 8-9 years
>ago?

There was? Who was it? I certainly don't recall a yank playing AFL.
And Sheedy has never coached the Swans.

> Wasn't Brad Green a Soccer player who was three years at Manchester
>United??

Well he tried out for Man U.

You forgot he also played under age cricket for Australia.

So what was your point in bringing him up?


>Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful. For instance in Soccer you need to
>know on how to curl a ball past a keeper and player walls and there are no
>marks in Soccer

So you need less skills in soccer.

In Aussie Rules you need to know how to bend the ball from the
boundary line, you need to know how to hand pass, mark, tackle,
shepherd, bounce the ball, etc etc etc. In soccer you only need to
know how to dribble and kick.

>Soccer is more free flowing.

I hadn't noticed.

> A great athlete will not be
>able to tackle a skilful soccer player(there are no hands) but will be able
>to tackle an AFL player.

You don't need to be that good an athlete to play soccer. Whereas to
play AFL you need to be a good athlete

>Scoring goals in Soccer is a lot harder.

Yes, something to do with a ridiculous rule called the Offside rule.
That and only being allowed to use your feet (or hands if you are
Maradona)

> You have a goalkeeper to get the
>ball past

You have as many as 18 players to get the ball past in Aussie Rules.

> and the goals are not infinite like Aussie rules is??

They aren't infinite in Aussie Rules.

Colin Kynoch
Suggesting Antony should look up the word infinite.

[Ext User(Antony)]

To even consider recruiting players from offshore by a senior coach shows
that how easy it is to learn the skills of an Amateur sport.

The American who used to play for the Swans had the surname Wheeler.

Marking, Tackling, Shepherding is stuff you do at primary school or pushing
to get into a canteen line. Anyone can learn this stuff. Bouncing the ball
can be learned easily but it is hardly used these days.

Infinite. There are no barriers to score goals. Anyone with a strong leg can
kick a footy but it takes precision/skill to kick a soccer ball within a
soccer goal

Simple question?? If a person had the chance to win a Million Dollars would
they prefer to kick a football from thirty meters or a Soccer Ball from
thirty metres with a Goalkeeper in front?


"Colin Kynoch" <colinkynoch@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:56:04 +1100, "Antony"
> <antony76@optusnet.com.au>proved their level of intelligence by top
> posting:
>
> >Aussie Rules can be easily learned.
>
> No more so than any other football code.
>
> > Kevin Sheedy often looks to recruit
> >Gridiron rejects from the NFL?
>
> And to date has recruited ZERO, NONE, NADA in over 2 decades of
> coaching. In fact more AFL players have gone on to play NFL (is that
> actually a sport or a game show?) than the other way round.
>
> >There was once an American who played for the Sydney Swans about 8-9
years
> >ago?
>
> There was? Who was it? I certainly don't recall a yank playing AFL.
> And Sheedy has never coached the Swans.
>
> > Wasn't Brad Green a Soccer player who was three years at Manchester
> >United??
>
> Well he tried out for Man U.
>
> You forgot he also played under age cricket for Australia.
>
> So what was your point in bringing him up?
>
>
> >Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful. For instance in Soccer you need
to
> >know on how to curl a ball past a keeper and player walls and there are
no
> >marks in Soccer
>
> So you need less skills in soccer.
>
> In Aussie Rules you need to know how to bend the ball from the
> boundary line, you need to know how to hand pass, mark, tackle,
> shepherd, bounce the ball, etc etc etc. In soccer you only need to
> know how to dribble and kick.
>
> >Soccer is more free flowing.
>
> I hadn't noticed.
>
> > A great athlete will not be
> >able to tackle a skilful soccer player(there are no hands) but will be
able
> >to tackle an AFL player.
>
> You don't need to be that good an athlete to play soccer. Whereas to
> play AFL you need to be a good athlete
>
> >Scoring goals in Soccer is a lot harder.
>
> Yes, something to do with a ridiculous rule called the Offside rule.
> That and only being allowed to use your feet (or hands if you are
> Maradona)
>
> > You have a goalkeeper to get the
> >ball past
>
> You have as many as 18 players to get the ball past in Aussie Rules.
>
> > and the goals are not infinite like Aussie rules is??
>
> They aren't infinite in Aussie Rules.
>
> Colin Kynoch
> Suggesting Antony should look up the word infinite.

[Ext User(Dave Turner)]

> Somehow I have not found any logic or intelligence in AFL either. Why are
> goals kicked so easily.
Because sports are EXTREMELY BORING when you watch it for two hours and it
finishes in a 0-0 draw! Probably why soccer crowds riot so often, I'd be
bored shitless too.

> Rugby Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful
That's debatable.

> and have offside rules in place.
Wow, an offside rule! Lets slow a slow game down even more and make it even
harder to score a single goal!

[Ext User(boumtje)]

Antony wrote:
> Soccer is more free flowing.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

i like soccer, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

[Ext User(Dave Turner)]

> Antony wrote:
>> Soccer is more free flowing.

So first you say that goals are too easy to score in AFL because there's no
off-side rule, yet then you say soccer is more free-flowing, even though the
off-side rule is one of the things that helps prevent a free-flowing game.
Make up your mind.

[Ext User(Steve nunya)]

Antony wrote in message <43659c6e$0$30573$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
>Somehow I have not found any logic or intelligence in AFL either. Why are
>goals kicked so easily. Rugby Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful and
>have offside rules in place.
>
>
ROFL...
Rugby Union and intelligence in the same phrase.

Oh look there out the window its a pig flying off with all your credibility.

the fact that you found haven't found any logic or intelligence in AFL
doesn't mean there is none it just highlights your own short commings

[Ext User(Mark Shea)]

Dave Turner wrote:
>>Somehow I have not found any logic or intelligence in AFL either. Why are
>>goals kicked so easily.
>
> Because sports are EXTREMELY BORING when you watch it for two hours and it
> finishes in a 0-0 draw! Probably why soccer crowds riot so often, I'd be
> bored shitless too.

To be fair, nil-all games are not necessarily boring, in the same way
that low scoring AFL games are often very exciting.

Soccer *is* boring, but not because of the lack of scoring.

Mark Shea

[Ext User(Greg)]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:03:51 GMT, Colin Kynoch <colinkynoch@gmail.com>
wrote:


>>Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful. For instance in Soccer you need to
>>know on how to curl a ball past a keeper and player walls and there are no
>>marks in Soccer
>
>So you need less skills in soccer.
>
>In Aussie Rules you need to know how to bend the ball from the
>boundary line, you need to know how to hand pass, mark, tackle,
>shepherd, bounce the ball, etc etc etc. In soccer you only need to
>know how to dribble and kick.
Now if only someone could go and show Carlton... :-)

Greg

[Ext User(deker)]

Antony wrote:
> Aussie Rules can be easily learned. Kevin Sheedy often looks to recruit
> Gridiron rejects from the NFL?

So how many GridIron rejects hgave made it in the AFL?
And how many AFL players have made it in GridIron

> There was once an American who played for the Sydney Swans about 8-9 years
> ago? Wasn't Brad Green a Soccer player who was three years at Manchester
> United??

No, he's just a gifted individual who played and excelled at lots of
sports when he was younger and had to make a choice at some stage.

> Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful. For instance in Soccer you need to
> know on how to curl a ball past a keeper and player walls and there are no
> marks in Soccer, Soccer is more free flowing. A great athlete will not be
> able to tackle a skilful soccer player(there are no hands) but will be able
> to tackle an AFL player.
>
> Scoring goals in Soccer is a lot harder. You have a goalkeeper to get the
> ball past and the goals are not infinite like Aussie rules is??

Soccer is skillful but it is slow, boring, and played by very very soft
individuals who roll around and cry for half an hour when someone grabs
their shirt. Union is also skillfull but less so than Aussie Rules.
Similar shaped balls, but in AFL you have to bounce it... in union, you
throw it. Also union is a latteral game where tackles general come from
in front of the person with the ball. In AFL, you need better
peripheral vision and awareness because you are open to being tackled
from pretty much 360 degrees. Football players also pretty much run the
gamut of all athletic skills whereas in union you really only need to be
able to be fat and run fast - which ok I'll concede is quite a feat.

deker

[Ext User(Larry de Silva)]

"Colin Kynoch" <colinkynoch@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:56:04 +1100, "Antony"
> <antony76@optusnet.com.au>proved their level of intelligence by top
> posting:
>
> >Aussie Rules can be easily learned.
>
> No more so than any other football code.
>
> > Kevin Sheedy often looks to recruit
> >Gridiron rejects from the NFL?
>
> And to date has recruited ZERO, NONE, NADA in over 2 decades of
> coaching. In fact more AFL players have gone on to play NFL (is that
> actually a sport or a game show?) than the other way round.
>
> >There was once an American who played for the Sydney Swans about 8-9
years
> >ago?
>
> There was?


Yes there was dude.


> Who was it?


A chap by the name of Micheal Wheeler. He played back pocket for the Swans.
Not extremely skillful but had pace to burn.


> I certainly don't recall a yank playing AFL.


He was an African American. Also another African American Gridiron player
named Ryan Armstrong (?) tried out with the Bombers years ago.

Laz





> And Sheedy has never coached the Swans.
>
> > Wasn't Brad Green a Soccer player who was three years at Manchester
> >United??
>
> Well he tried out for Man U.
>
> You forgot he also played under age cricket for Australia.
>
> So what was your point in bringing him up?
>
>
> >Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful. For instance in Soccer you need
to
> >know on how to curl a ball past a keeper and player walls and there are
no
> >marks in Soccer
>
> So you need less skills in soccer.
>
> In Aussie Rules you need to know how to bend the ball from the
> boundary line, you need to know how to hand pass, mark, tackle,
> shepherd, bounce the ball, etc etc etc. In soccer you only need to
> know how to dribble and kick.
>
> >Soccer is more free flowing.
>
> I hadn't noticed.
>
> > A great athlete will not be
> >able to tackle a skilful soccer player(there are no hands) but will be
able
> >to tackle an AFL player.
>
> You don't need to be that good an athlete to play soccer. Whereas to
> play AFL you need to be a good athlete
>
> >Scoring goals in Soccer is a lot harder.
>
> Yes, something to do with a ridiculous rule called the Offside rule.
> That and only being allowed to use your feet (or hands if you are
> Maradona)
>
> > You have a goalkeeper to get the
> >ball past
>
> You have as many as 18 players to get the ball past in Aussie Rules.
>
> > and the goals are not infinite like Aussie rules is??
>
> They aren't infinite in Aussie Rules.
>
> Colin Kynoch
> Suggesting Antony should look up the word infinite.

[Ext User(deker)]

Larry de Silva wrote:
> "Colin Kynoch" <colinkynoch@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:qi8bm1dasl5ngsvj41gat48v8kmac5aedh@4ax.com...
>
>>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:56:04 +1100, "Antony"
>><antony76@optusnet.com.au>proved their level of intelligence by top
>>posting:
>>
>>
>>>Aussie Rules can be easily learned.
>>
>>No more so than any other football code.
>>
>>
>>>Kevin Sheedy often looks to recruit
>>>Gridiron rejects from the NFL?
>>
>>And to date has recruited ZERO, NONE, NADA in over 2 decades of
>>coaching. In fact more AFL players have gone on to play NFL (is that
>>actually a sport or a game show?) than the other way round.
>>
>>
>>>There was once an American who played for the Sydney Swans about 8-9
>
> years
>
>>>ago?
>>
>>There was?
>
>
>
> Yes there was dude.
>
>
>
>>Who was it?
>
>
>
> A chap by the name of Micheal Wheeler. He played back pocket for the Swans.
> Not extremely skillful but had pace to burn.
>
>
>
>> I certainly don't recall a yank playing AFL.
>
>
>
> He was an African American. Also another African American Gridiron player
> named Ryan Armstrong (?) tried out with the Bombers years ago.
>
> Laz

Are you sure that was his name? The name Dewey comes to mind for some
reason... no idea why. I saw that guy play for the Bombers against Freo
in a pre-season scratchy about 5 years ago. He had no idea and was good
comedic value.

deker

[Ext User(David J Richardson)]

In article
<4365ec3b$0$20402$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
deker <deker@19> wrote:

> > He was an African American. Also another African American Gridiron
> > player named Ryan Armstrong (?) tried out with the Bombers years
> > ago.
>
> Are you sure that was his name? The name Dewey comes to mind for
> some reason... no idea why.

His name was Dwayne Armstrong, played NFL 1992-94 before attending the
1995 Anzac Day match. As noted, he was amusing.

I believe he was dating Ross Oakley's daughter, and later became the
NFL development manager for Australasia.

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[Ext User(Gerrit 't Hart)]

"Dave Turner" <not@dave> wrote in message
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> > Somehow I have not found any logic or intelligence in AFL either. Why
are
> > goals kicked so easily.
> Because sports are EXTREMELY BORING when you watch it for two hours and it
> finishes in a 0-0 draw! Probably why soccer crowds riot so often, I'd be
> bored shitless too.
>
> > Rugby Union and Soccer are a lot more skilful
> That's debatable.
>
> > and have offside rules in place.
> Wow, an offside rule! Lets slow a slow game down even more and make it
even
> harder to score a single goal!
>
>

(Field) Hockey used to have an offside rule too. It was more restrictive
than that for Soccer. The authorities found that crowds were not coming so
they experimented with "no offside rule" and the game improved to such an
extent that they changed the rules. Now you get scorelines like 8-6 in
international matches. Great.

BTW I like both Aussie Rules and Soccer for different reasons and can't
really see why we should get into such an argument. Neither federation need
worry about the others growth because they can co-exist. I think Rugby (both
forms) may need to worry though! :-)

Gerrit