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Ext User(David Clayton)
01-11-2005, 09:11 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/2005/10/31/1130720479541.html

Disgrace! Star berates the stars

By Geoff McClure
November 1, 2005

THE international rules series may be over but given the rough-house
tactics employed by the Australians against their Irish opponents, it
would seem we haven't heard the last of it. And that almost certainly will
be the case now, once the footy world has had time to absorb the contents
of a stunning email written by a current senior AFL player, so far
unnamed, that was sent to radio station SEN and aired on the program
Ralph, Serge and the Big Man. In the note, the player describes Friday
night's game as an embarrassment and "a complete disgrace" and is
particularly scathing about many players who he said "would not even
contemplate taking on the likes of (Glenn) Archer, (Jonathan) Brown or
(Barry) Hall but suddenly they grow balls against an opposition who are
not used to physical violence".

The author of the note, who singles out coach Kevin Sheedy and co-captain
Chris Johnson for special criticism, said he was so angry at what he saw
that he switched his television off at half-time and refused to watch the
second half. SEN said yesterday the show's producer verified the note
before it was read on air, the player confirming he had written it, but to
protect his club wanted to remain anonymous. The player was contacted by
the producer yesterday and asked if he was prepared to be identified in
The Age, but he declined, although he was happy for it to be known he is a
Victorian-based player and previously has represented Australia in
international rules competition. What he said

Dear Ralph, Serge & Scotty,

As a senior AFL player, last night (Friday) brought huge embarrassment to
myself and many others. I hope you saw the game (well actually, I hope you
didn't). I witnessed many AFL players who in our 2005 season - if I can
quote Martin Pike - would be far too scared to sleep with the light off.
Players who would not even contemplate taking on Archer, Brown or Hall but
suddenly they grow balls against an opposition who are not used to
physical violence. They made the game/series a complete disgrace! Kevin
Sheedy loses my respect, Chris Johnson who is a captain, is now in the
papers saying, 'I am sorry'... Please! He is supposed to be a leader as a
captain, but maybe he isn't. The game was played far from within the right
spirit. Trent Croad pushing an official - huge lack of respect! This side
is an International Rules side. Most definitely NOT an All Australian
Team! I will next time turn to soccer, a 1-0 result in a great spirited
game (between Adelaide and Melbourne), which is much better than what I
witnessed in the junk served up by the Australian side last night. An
utter disgrace! I couldn't even watch the second half.

Ext User(woods)
01-11-2005, 09:29 AM
In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:

> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/20
> 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>
> Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>

so any ideas who this star is....
senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.

jimmy hird maybe?

Ext User(Power Mad)
01-11-2005, 10:08 AM
"woods" wrote...
>
> David Clayton wrote:
>
>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/20
>> 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>
>> Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>
>
> so any ideas who this star is....
> senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>
> jimmy hird maybe?
>
Nayten Bookly?

Ext User(sdf)
01-11-2005, 11:07 AM
"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
> David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/20
>> 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>
>> Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>
>
> so any ideas who this star is....
> senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>
> jimmy hird maybe?

"Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"

I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.

Ext User(Jaspar)
01-11-2005, 06:26 PM
"sdf" <sdf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1ly9f.5626$Hj2.898@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
> news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
>> David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/20
>>> 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>>
>>> Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>
>>
>> so any ideas who this star is....
>> senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>
>> jimmy hird maybe?
>
> "Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>
> I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.

No longer captain, in the final years of his career, but still playing great
football. I dont think he has anything to fear from anonymously writing a
letter.

I didnt watch the second game, but the first game was fairly rough. If the
second game was more rough, then they need to look at changing the rules.
Assuming the Irish bother playing again.

ho'JU

Ext User(deker)
01-11-2005, 06:51 PM
Jaspar wrote:
> "sdf" <sdf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1ly9f.5626$Hj2.898@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
>>news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>
>>>In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
>>>David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/20
>>>>05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>>>
>>>>Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>>
>>>
>>>so any ideas who this star is....
>>>senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>>
>>>jimmy hird maybe?
>>
>>"Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>>
>>I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.
>
>
> No longer captain, in the final years of his career, but still playing great
> football. I dont think he has anything to fear from anonymously writing a
> letter.

Jimmy wouldn't do that to sheeds. If he had something to say he would
say it to his face and the likes of you and me would be unlikely to hear
any of it.

deker

Ext User(Jaspar)
01-11-2005, 06:53 PM
"deker" <deker@19> wrote in message
news:43671e66$0$20417$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>so any ideas who this star is....
>>>>senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>>>
>>>>jimmy hird maybe?
>>>
>>>"Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>>>
>>>I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.
>>
>>
>> No longer captain, in the final years of his career, but still playing
>> great football. I dont think he has anything to fear from anonymously
>> writing a letter.
>
> Jimmy wouldn't do that to sheeds. If he had something to say he would say
> it to his face and the likes of you and me would be unlikely to hear any
> of it.

But he wouldnt have shown how pissed off he was with the rest of the players
though.

ho'JU

Ext User(deker)
01-11-2005, 07:04 PM
Jaspar wrote:
> "deker" <deker@19> wrote in message
> news:43671e66$0$20417$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>>>>>>Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>so any ideas who this star is....
>>>>>senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>>>>
>>>>>jimmy hird maybe?
>>>>
>>>>"Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>>>>
>>>>I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.
>>>
>>>
>>>No longer captain, in the final years of his career, but still playing
>>>great football. I dont think he has anything to fear from anonymously
>>>writing a letter.
>>
>>Jimmy wouldn't do that to sheeds. If he had something to say he would say
>>it to his face and the likes of you and me would be unlikely to hear any
>>of it.
>
>
> But he wouldnt have shown how pissed off he was with the rest of the players
> though.

I doubt Jim would have been too fussed with the aussies' behaviour.
Sure Johnson lost the plot for a minute, but hardly worth Jimmy even
clearing his throat for.

deker

deker

Ext User(Power Mad)
01-11-2005, 08:54 PM
"sdf" <sdf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1ly9f.5626$Hj2.898@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
> news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
>> David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/20
>>> 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>>
>>> Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>
>>
>> so any ideas who this star is....
>> senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>
>> jimmy hird maybe?
>
> "Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>
> I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.
On second thoughts, with all those girly exclamation marks in the email, my
guess would be Shane Crawford.

Ext User(deker)
01-11-2005, 09:03 PM
Power Mad wrote:
> "sdf" <sdf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1ly9f.5626$Hj2.898@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
>>news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>
>>>In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
>>>David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/20
>>>>05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>>>
>>>>Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>>
>>>
>>>so any ideas who this star is....
>>>senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>>
>>>jimmy hird maybe?
>>
>>"Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>>
>>I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.
>
> On second thoughts, with all those girly exclamation marks in the email, my
> guess would be Shane Crawford.

shane's a fookin' gorilla compared to the team the Irish sent over

deker

Ext User(woods)
01-11-2005, 09:04 PM
In article <4366a40e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "Power Mad" <news@ten.com>
wrote:

> "woods" wrote...
> >
> > David Clayton wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars
> >> /20
> >> 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
> >>
> >> Disgrace! Star berates the stars
> >>
> >
> > so any ideas who this star is....
> > senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
> >
> > jimmy hird maybe?
> >
> Nayten Bookly?

has ugly buckley played international rules?

Ext User(Mike La Pietra)
02-11-2005, 07:28 PM
"David Clayton" <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox. com...
> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-stars/2005/10/31/1130720479541.html
>
> Disgrace! Star berates the stars

THANK you!

Ext User(Ron Burgundy)
02-11-2005, 09:25 PM
woods <noreply@none.com> wrote in
news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u:

> In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
> David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-the-
>> stars/20 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>
>> Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>
>
> so any ideas who this star is....
> senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>
> jimmy hird maybe?

Cameron Mooney... :-)

--

I'm Ron Burgundy

You stay classy, San Diego.

Ext User(Ron Burgundy)
02-11-2005, 09:26 PM
deker <deker@19> wrote in
news:43673d58$0$20424$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

> Power Mad wrote:
>> "sdf" <sdf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1ly9f.5626$Hj2.898@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>>"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>>
>>>>In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
>>>>David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-
th
>>>>>e-stars/20 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>so any ideas who this star is....
>>>>senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>>>
>>>>jimmy hird maybe?
>>>
>>>"Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>>>
>>>I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.
>>
>> On second thoughts, with all those girly exclamation marks in the
>> email, my guess would be Shane Crawford.
>
> shane's a fookin' gorilla compared to the team the Irish sent over
>
> deker

Possibly Robert Harvey?

--

I'm Ron Burgundy

You stay classy, San Diego.

Ext User(deker)
02-11-2005, 09:54 PM
Ron Burgundy wrote:
> deker <deker@19> wrote in
> news:43673d58$0$20424$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>
>
>>Power Mad wrote:
>>
>>>"sdf" <sdf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1ly9f.5626$Hj2.898@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:43669ab0$0$27299$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <pan.2005.10.31.22.11.03.261126@XYZ.myrealbox.com>,
>>>>>David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.theage.com.au/news/geoff-mcclure/disgrace-star-berates-
>
> th
>
>>>>>>e-stars/20 05/10/31/1130720479541.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Disgrace! Star berates the stars
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>so any ideas who this star is....
>>>>>senior afl victorian player who's played int rules before.
>>>>>
>>>>>jimmy hird maybe?
>>>>
>>>>"Kevin Sheedy loses my respect,"
>>>>
>>>>I doubt even anonomously Jimmy would risk saying that.
>>>
>>>On second thoughts, with all those girly exclamation marks in the
>>>email, my guess would be Shane Crawford.
>>
>>shane's a fookin' gorilla compared to the team the Irish sent over
>>
>>deker
>
>
> Possibly Robert Harvey?

my guess would be SOS. not sure if he's a past captain though

deker

Ext User(woods)
03-11-2005, 08:10 AM
In article <Xns9702DA2FB93Epopematthewatbigpond@61.9.191.5>,
Ron Burgundy <popematthew@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Possibly Robert Harvey?

he hasn't played international rules...?