Proposed Delisting for Sexual Misconduct

[Ext User(Epigram)]

A tough penalty- I haven't seen the policy on the AFL website, so how it's
worded is important.

One thing gleened from "what the papers say" (and who can trust
politicians, finacial advisers or hacks?) is that it is misconduct "towards
women".

Straight off, delisting a player, or banning an official for sexual
misconduct is IMHO a good move. Although the AFL have addressed this
before, at least now there is a more than adequate penalty for what is not
acceptable.

However, and again I stress I haven't read the policy, it seems to be
misconduct against women only. Certainly it would be better to have this
penalty against all sexual misconduct, if only to clear up any grey areas.

How much evidence is required for the policy to take effect? An
allegation? A conviction by the court? A decision handed down by the
Tribunal (and supported by the Appeal and the independent Sports Appeal
Tribunal)?

Is this policy too much? Not enough? A kneejerk reaction to the past few
years of both footy and what happend in the NRL?

What do _you_ think?
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Toby

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[Ext User(Footy Facts)]

"Epigram" <not@this.id> wrote in message news:1111731.LNKQXEOL@news.dodo.com.au...
>A tough penalty- I haven't seen the policy on the AFL website, so how it's
> worded is important.
>
> One thing gleened from "what the papers say" (and who can trust
> politicians, finacial advisers or hacks?) is that it is misconduct "towards
> women".
>
> Straight off, delisting a player, or banning an official for sexual
> misconduct is IMHO a good move. Although the AFL have addressed this
> before, at least now there is a more than adequate penalty for what is not
> acceptable.
>
> However, and again I stress I haven't read the policy, it seems to be
> misconduct against women only. Certainly it would be better to have this
> penalty against all sexual misconduct, if only to clear up any grey areas.
>
> How much evidence is required for the policy to take effect? An
> allegation? A conviction by the court? A decision handed down by the
> Tribunal (and supported by the Appeal and the independent Sports Appeal
> Tribunal)?
>
> Is this policy too much? Not enough? A kneejerk reaction to the past few
> years of both footy and what happend in the NRL?
>
> What do _you_ think?
> --
>
> Toby
>
> --
> I saw a funny thing on the way here. So I laughed.
>
> (If you really want to email me, you'd know the address)

anything short of an admission of guilt
(and I would advise anybody to never admit to anything ever)
and/or a conviction in court would see the AFL
sued up to the wazoo and if the ruling does state "women"
though I don't reckon it would then any Hetero player
can also do them for discrimination because a Homo
player would not be subject to the same rules

The AFL tribunal and the sports tribunal have
no jurisdiction over allegations of sexual misconduct
(talk about all the jumping up and down about
intentional/deliberatoe WTF is "misconduct")
they could raise a Disrepute charge in relation to it
I suppose but if a player was found not guilty
in a court of law took the accuser to court
and won damages they would be in a precarious position

A club however can choose not to renew a contract
or to pay out a contract at any time they like
without ever having to worry about that risk
and the clever thing to do is to do just that
and offer no reason other than the player no longer fits
our future direction in player management or some such
It would then be very difficult for a player to get damages
though Croft did manage to make a case for damages
similar to this but his case (which the Bulldogs settled OOC)
was based on the condition that they did not play him
to avoid having to pay him (if they had terminated his
contract they of course would have been liable for the
full terms of the contract whereas by not playing him
they were only paying the minimum terms rather
than the terms if he was in the Senior team)

gF