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Ext User(damnfine)
23-12-2005, 11:32 AM
Surprisingly our resident Advertiser re-reporter Danny Best (The Not
Obsessed) has neglected to post this story, so I'll take on the duty in his
stead.



http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17646844%255E910,00.html


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I'LL KILL YOU
By REBEKAH DEVLIN
23dec05
ADELAIDE Crows star Simon Goodwin physically assaulted and threatened a
photographer after a drunken night with teammates spilled on to the street
outside a city hotel at about 11am yesterday.

A clearly intoxicated Goodwin pushed Advertiser photographer Tait Schmaal
against a wall, pressed his forearm against Schmaal's throat and told him:
"If you run any photos, I'll f...ing kill you."

Several players, including Crows captain Mark Ricciuto, were drinking at
Waymouth St pub Raglan's, which is co-owned by former Crows player Wayne
Carey, early yesterday morning after celebrations for the conclusion of the
year's training on Wednesday and a friend's 30th birthday.

After a call from the public alerting The Advertiser to unruly behaviour by
some of the players, Schmaal went to the hotel about 9.35am but did not
enter and remained on the public footpath at all times.

Before the altercation, he photographed Crows players Rhett Biglands, Ben
Hudson and Nathan Bock running across Waymouth St and wrestling.

Schmaal also photographed a parking inspector being doused with a drink,
which was thrown from inside the hotel.


The Crows denied that it was thrown by a player.

Soon afterwards, Goodwin left Raglan's. When he noticed Schmaal, Goodwin
approached and shoved the photographer before attempting to snatch his
camera out of his hands.

"If you run any photos, I'll f...ing kill you," Goodwin said to Schmaal, who
asked: "Is that a threat?"

Goodwin replied that it was.

The current Crows club champion then pushed Schmaal against a wall and
pressed his forearm against Schmaal's throat.

"You're f...ed if you run this," Goodwin said to Schmaal.

Raglan's co-owner Rob Kent had to pull Goodwin's arms away from Schmaal.

Mark Ricciuto also told Advertiser reporter Rebekah Devlin that no Crows
players would deal with The Advertiser if the incident was publicised.

Biglands and Scott Welsh tried to defuse the situation - Welsh physically
restrained an agitated Ricciuto and Biglands attempted to convince Devlin
not to publish the pictures.

Ozexperience.com tour consultant Tracy Bryant witnessed the incident, which
occurred on the footpath outside her office.

"I saw them (the Crows players) play-fighting in the street earlier, but
then I didn't see any more of them until your photographer was slammed up
against the wall," she said.

"It was crazy. I heard Goodwin shouting 'I'm going to kill you if you print
those'."

During a press conference called by the Crows following the attack, Goodwin
denied he had threatened to kill anyone.

Ms Bryant said soon after the incident, she saw the players leave Raglan's
and not return. "They were running amok, it was nuts," she said. "It was
just crazy. I couldn't believe it."

The players were believed to have been on a late-night drinking binge.

A Crows statement said the players had returned home at 5am after Christmas
celebrations. However, the statement also said they arrived at the pub at
10.30am.

Biglands told The Advertiser the players had only been at Raglan's since
11am, but they were seen in the bar drinking at 9am and photographed at
10am.

At the press conference, at West Lakes, Goodwin said he "forcefully
mishandled" Schmaal because he felt his personal space was being invaded.

"I feel that I reacted in a manner which is unbecoming and I certainly
regret that," he said. "It was a response that is unnatural to me and
something that I deeply regret."

Goodwin phoned Schmaal to apologise yesterday afternoon and conceded during
the media conference he could have dealt with things "a lot better".

Asked if he had threatened to kill Schmaal if he published the photographs,
Goodwin replied: "I did not at any stage threaten to kill him."

In a prepared statement, club chief executive Steven Trigg admitted Goodwin
had "lost it".

He stressed that the club did not condone his action but "it does support
Simon Goodwin", and said that given Goodwin's public apology and personal
call to Schmaal, the club intended to take no further action.

"There are no other incidents or surrounding behaviour of which we are
either embarrassed, ashamed or going to take action. I want to be clear
about that," he said.

He said the Crows leadership group would probably consider the matter in the
New Year.

Coach Neil Craig said the incident would be "a learning experience" and the
club could turn it "into a positive".

"In the end, I think it will be a fantastic learning experience for our
whole playing group of the responsibility they have," Craig said.

Statements were made to SA Police by Schmaal and the parking inspector but
neither elected to press charges.


Before the altercation, he photographed Crows players Rhett Biglands, Ben
Hudson and Nathan Bock running across Waymouth St and wrestling.

Schmaal also photographed a parking inspector being doused with a drink,
which was thrown from inside the hotel.

The Crows denied that it was thrown by a player.

Soon afterwards, Goodwin left Raglan's. When he noticed Schmaal, Goodwin
approached and shoved the photographer before attempting to snatch his
camera out of his hands.

"If you run any photos, I'll f...ing kill you," Goodwin said to Schmaal, who
asked: "Is that a threat?"

Goodwin replied that it was.

The current Crows club champion then pushed Schmaal against a wall and
pressed his forearm against Schmaal's throat.

"You're f...ed if you run this," Goodwin said to Schmaal.

Raglan's co-owner Rob Kent had to pull Goodwin's arms away from Schmaal.

Mark Ricciuto also told Advertiser reporter Rebekah Devlin that no Crows
players would deal with The Advertiser if the incident was publicised.

Biglands and Scott Welsh tried to defuse the situation - Welsh physically
restrained an agitated Ricciuto and Biglands attempted to convince Devlin
not to publish the pictures.

Ozexperience.com tour consultant Tracy Bryant witnessed the incident, which
occurred on the footpath outside her office.

"I saw them (the Crows players) play-fighting in the street earlier, but
then I didn't see any more of them until your photographer was slammed up
against the wall," she said.

"It was crazy. I heard Goodwin shouting 'I'm going to kill you if you print
those'."

During a press conference called by the Crows following the attack, Goodwin
denied he had threatened to kill anyone.

Ms Bryant said soon after the incident, she saw the players leave Raglan's
and not return. "They were running amok, it was nuts," she said. "It was
just crazy. I couldn't believe it."

The players were believed to have been on a late-night drinking binge.

A Crows statement said the players had returned home at 5am after Christmas
celebrations. However, the statement also said they arrived at the pub at
10.30am.

Biglands told The Advertiser the players had only been at Raglan's since
11am, but they were seen in the bar drinking at 9am and photographed at
10am.

At the press conference, at West Lakes, Goodwin said he "forcefully
mishandled" Schmaal because he felt his personal space was being invaded.

"I feel that I reacted in a manner which is unbecoming and I certainly
regret that," he said. "It was a response that is unnatural to me and
something that I deeply regret."

Goodwin phoned Schmaal to apologise yesterday afternoon and conceded during
the media conference he could have dealt with things "a lot better".

Asked if he had threatened to kill Schmaal if he published the photographs,
Goodwin replied: "I did not at any stage threaten to kill him."

In a prepared statement, club chief executive Steven Trigg admitted Goodwin
had "lost it".

He stressed that the club did not condone his action but "it does support
Simon Goodwin", and said that given Goodwin's public apology and personal
call to Schmaal, the club intended to take no further action.

"There are no other incidents or surrounding behaviour of which we are
either embarrassed, ashamed or going to take action. I want to be clear
about that," he said.

He said the Crows leadership group would probably consider the matter in the
New Year.

Coach Neil Craig said the incident would be "a learning experience" and the
club could turn it "into a positive".

"In the end, I think it will be a fantastic learning experience for our
whole playing group of the responsibility they have," Craig said.

Statements were made to SA Police by Schmaal and the parking inspector but
neither elected to press charges.

---




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damnfine

Ext User(Steve nunya)
23-12-2005, 12:00 PM
damnfine wrote in message
<43ab458e$0$14675$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
>Surprisingly our resident Advertiser re-reporter Danny Best (The Not
>Obsessed) has neglected to post this story, so I'll take on the duty in his
>stead.
>
>
>
>http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17646844%255E
910,00.html
>
>
>---


Oh no...breaking news story

Footballers go drinking after football training camp....

Now thats never happened before.

Goody may have overreacted but after a heavy night
minding your own business getting a camerra shoved in your face
you'd be annoyed too.

At least he wasn't driving.

Ext User(Biggus La Great.)
23-12-2005, 12:52 PM
Good to see you try and downplay the assult on the photographer


>
>Oh no...breaking news story
>
>Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>
>Now thats never happened before.
>
>Goody may have overreacted but after a heavy night
>minding your own business getting a camerra shoved in your face
>you'd be annoyed too.
>
>At least he wasn't driving.
>

Ext User(Steve nunya)
23-12-2005, 01:17 PM
Biggus La Great. wrote in message ...
>Good to see you try and downplay the assult on the photographer
>
>

Assult..hahaha
but not a punch was thrown
so your gunna put charges on somebody for a bit of push and shove?
At least the photogarpher isn't as big a pussy as you.


>>
>>Oh no...breaking news story
>>
>>Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>>
>>Now thats never happened before.
>>
>>Goody may have overreacted but after a heavy night
>>minding your own business getting a camerra shoved in your face
>>you'd be annoyed too.
>>
>>At least he wasn't driving.
>>
>

Assult..hahaha
not a punch was thrown

Ext User(damnfine)
23-12-2005, 02:35 PM
"Steve nunya" wrote:
> Oh no...breaking news story
>
> Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>
> Now thats never happened before.

If it's such a non-issue, why did Ricciuto (lamely) try to convince Devlin
not to run the story?

I think there's quite obviously MORE to it than the Advertiser's lawyers
have allowed it to say thus far. Goodwin must've been up to something to
react like that.


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damnfine

Ext User(deker)
23-12-2005, 04:31 PM
Steve nunya wrote:
> damnfine wrote in message
> <43ab458e$0$14675$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
>
>>Surprisingly our resident Advertiser re-reporter Danny Best (The Not
>>Obsessed) has neglected to post this story, so I'll take on the duty in his
>>stead.
>>
>>
>>
>>http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17646844%255E
>
> 910,00.html
>
>>
>>---
>
>
>
> Oh no...breaking news story
>
> Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>
> Now thats never happened before.
>
> Goody may have overreacted but after a heavy night
> minding your own business getting a camerra shoved in your face
> you'd be annoyed too.
>
> At least he wasn't driving.

lol so that's your take on the situation.
that the camera was "shoved" in his face - and damn right he should be
annoyed. umm who do you support again?

deker

Ext User(deker)
23-12-2005, 04:33 PM
Steve nunya wrote:
> Biggus La Great. wrote in message ...
>
>>Good to see you try and downplay the assult on the photographer
>>
>>
>
>
> Assult..hahaha
> but not a punch was thrown
> so your gunna put charges on somebody for a bit of push and shove?
> At least the photogarpher isn't as big a pussy as you.

if all that Goodwin did was yell at the photographer in a threatening
manner, that would be assault.

when you grab shomeone by the throat or shove them, it is certainly
assault - and has nothing to do with being pussy or whatever.
If Goodwin did that to me we'd both be in hospital.

deker

Ext User(deker)
23-12-2005, 04:34 PM
damnfine wrote:
> "Steve nunya" wrote:
>
>>Oh no...breaking news story
>>
>>Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>>
>>Now thats never happened before.
>
>
> If it's such a non-issue, why did Ricciuto (lamely) try to convince Devlin
> not to run the story?
>
> I think there's quite obviously MORE to it than the Advertiser's lawyers
> have allowed it to say thus far. Goodwin must've been up to something to
> react like that.

up to his 11th pint?

deker

Ext User(Chris Glover)
23-12-2005, 05:28 PM
"Steve nunya" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:dofi7k$5g0$1@mws-stat-syd.cdn.telstra.com.au...
>
> damnfine wrote in message
> <43ab458e$0$14675$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
> >Surprisingly our resident Advertiser re-reporter Danny Best (The Not
> >Obsessed) has neglected to post this story, so I'll take on the duty in
his
> >stead.
>
> Oh no...breaking news story
>
> Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>
> Now thats never happened before.
>
> Goody may have overreacted but after a heavy night
> minding your own business getting a camerra shoved in your face
> you'd be annoyed too.
>
> At least he wasn't driving.
>

If it had been a Port player the Crow supporters here would be getting the
gallows ready.

The threat to kill, which was independently verified, is the most worrying
aspect.

Chris Glover
Asgardian

Ext User(Sanctify)
23-12-2005, 09:14 PM
damnfine wrote:
> Surprisingly our resident Advertiser re-reporter Danny Best (The Not
> Obsessed) has neglected to post this story, so I'll take on the duty in his
> stead.
>
>
>
> http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17646844%255E910,00.html

Yeah, it was pretty ****ing funny stuff. Written by the lightweight
entertainment reporter, and focusing on a photographer who spends his
time stalking footballers. Pity that Goodwin didn't break his head open.

Good on ya for posting it though Benny. Nice to see you have something
to do with all that free time you clearly have.

Ext User(Sanctify)
23-12-2005, 09:17 PM
damnfine wrote:
> "Steve nunya" wrote:
>
>>Oh no...breaking news story
>>
>>Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>>
>>Now thats never happened before.
>
>
> If it's such a non-issue, why did Ricciuto (lamely) try to convince Devlin
> not to run the story?

According to who? Devlin?
>
> I think there's quite obviously MORE to it than the Advertiser's lawyers
> have allowed it to say thus far. Goodwin must've been up to something to
> react like that.

Yeah, he didn't want someone following him taking photos after a night
out at 10am. Wow - the guy wanted some privacy. Pity you can't
understand that Benny.

If it were as serious as you're making it out to be then why did the
cops tell devlin and the stalker that there was no grounds on which to
charge anyone? Whoops - just ****ed your fantasy there eh?

Ext User(Sanctify)
23-12-2005, 09:18 PM
deker wrote:
> Steve nunya wrote:
>
>> Biggus La Great. wrote in message ...
>>
>>> Good to see you try and downplay the assult on the photographer
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Assult..hahaha
>> but not a punch was thrown
>> so your gunna put charges on somebody for a bit of push and shove?
>> At least the photogarpher isn't as big a pussy as you.
>
>
> if all that Goodwin did was yell at the photographer in a threatening
> manner, that would be assault.
>
> when you grab shomeone by the throat or shove them, it is certainly
> assault - and has nothing to do with being pussy or whatever.
> If Goodwin did that to me we'd both be in hospital.

Deks - would you hang around a pub for two hours taking photos in the
first place when nothing was happening? I expect if someone did that to
you then you'd be a bit cheesed off surely?

Ext User(damnfine)
23-12-2005, 11:04 PM
"Sanctify" wrote:
> Good on ya for posting it though Benny. Nice to see you have something to
> do with all that free time you clearly have.

Ho ho ho, Santa.


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damnfine

Ext User(damnfine)
23-12-2005, 11:08 PM
"Sanctify" wrote:
> Yeah, he didn't want someone following him taking photos after a night out
> at 10am. Wow - the guy wanted some privacy. Pity you can't understand
> that Benny.

The great thing about this is that, whichever way you look at it, Goodwin
has to come off as either a total psycho asshole, or the stupidest
mother****er on earth. Either way is fine by me, and neither way is
surprising.


> If it were as serious as you're making it out to be then why did the cops
> tell devlin and the stalker that there was no grounds on which to charge
> anyone? Whoops - just ****ed your fantasy there eh?

When did I say there should've been charges?

It just shows your "leadership" group in their true colours as a bunch of
pathetic teenage boys. Surprise ****ing surprise. How people who support
that disgraceful excuse for a team can sleep at night is beyond me.


--
damnfine

Ext User(damnfine)
23-12-2005, 11:09 PM
"Sanctify" wrote:
> Deks - would you hang around a pub for two hours taking photos in the
> first place when nothing was happening?

Danny - would you go psycho at a newspaper photographer when you had nothing
to hide?


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damnfine

Ext User(Sanctify)
24-12-2005, 08:04 AM
damnfine wrote:
> "Sanctify" wrote:
>
>>Yeah, he didn't want someone following him taking photos after a night out
>>at 10am. Wow - the guy wanted some privacy. Pity you can't understand
>>that Benny.
>
>
> The great thing about this is that, whichever way you look at it, Goodwin
> has to come off as either a total psycho asshole, or the stupidest
> mother****er on earth. Either way is fine by me, and neither way is
> surprising.

The great thing is that you now admit you believe everything you read in
the Advertiser. Congratulations Benny. I'm impressed. I mean, who'd
have ever thought you could actually read?

Ext User(Sanctify)
24-12-2005, 08:07 AM
damnfine wrote:
> "Sanctify" wrote:
>
>>Deks - would you hang around a pub for two hours taking photos in the
>>first place when nothing was happening?
>
>
> Danny - would you go psycho at a newspaper photographer when you had nothing
> to hide?

Benny - if he were following me for no reason, sitting out the front of
a pub for over two hours and then started following me up the road, then
yep, I'd tell him to **** off in no uncertain terms. The guy wanted a
reaction and he got one. Naturally it was exactly the reaction he
wanted - an angry, half pissed footballer. It'd have made no difference
if he was from the Crows or Port- all he wanted was someone to have a go.

I mean, front page news? It must have been a ****ing slow news day.
How newsworthy is it for a group of footballers to be sitting in the pub
after the training break-up do having a few suds? You could have gone
to any pub and found that over the past few months, but nooooooo
suddenly for some 'journos' at the Advertiser it's Earth shattering
news, right up there with the tsunami.

Ext User(damnfine)
24-12-2005, 09:03 AM
"Sanctify" wrote:
> The great thing is that you now admit you believe everything you read in
> the Advertiser.

No, but I'd certainly weigh it favourably over the stories told in the
mumbled apologia of a few hung-over footy yobs.


> Congratulations Benny. I'm impressed. I mean, who'd have ever thought
> you could actually read?

You're rusty, Danny... it must be the off-season. You used to piss me off
occasionally, but that's the jibe of an ABSOLUTE lightweight.


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damnfine

Ext User(Steve nunya)
24-12-2005, 09:06 AM
deker wrote in message
<43ab8b9a$0$14669$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
>Steve nunya wrote:
>> damnfine wrote in message
>> <43ab458e$0$14675$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
>>
>>>Surprisingly our resident Advertiser re-reporter Danny Best (The Not
>>>Obsessed) has neglected to post this story, so I'll take on the duty in
his
>>>stead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17646844%25
5E
>>
>> 910,00.html
>>
>>>
>>>---
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh no...breaking news story
>>
>> Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>>
>> Now thats never happened before.
>>
>> Goody may have overreacted but after a heavy night
>> minding your own business getting a camerra shoved in your face
>> you'd be annoyed too.
>>
>> At least he wasn't driving.
>
>lol so that's your take on the situation.
>that the camera was "shoved" in his face - and damn right he should be
>annoyed. umm who do you support again?
>
>deker

your point?
I could see you being very personable in the situation.
you've just had a hard 3 day training camp, got time off now.
been out with the mates, tired, 1/2 cut and some silly bitch and her
lacky are there to pester you when your blowing off steam.

Yes dek's! you'd just smile ....LOL

Ext User(Steve nunya)
24-12-2005, 09:12 AM
Sanctify wrote in message ...
>damnfine wrote:
>> "Steve nunya" wrote:
>>
>>>Oh no...breaking news story
>>>
>>>Footballers go drinking after football training camp....
>>>
>>>Now thats never happened before.
>>
>>
>> If it's such a non-issue, why did Ricciuto (lamely) try to convince
Devlin
>> not to run the story?
>
>According to who? Devlin?

Who some how is being called a sports jurno..LOL

She's no more than some socialite who pretends to
be into sport, worst tripe I've ever read.

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